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hi there,
Im currently a wizard user and i love it, only 2 drawbacks are Lack of GPS and a slow processor. Ive been reading up alot on the tilt lately and heres what i found...
1 - the video/graphics problem still exists
2 - Red Light of death is a COMMON problem
ill be buying this phone from ebay, and unlocking it for T-mobile (USA) since i wont be under AT&ts warranty, i have no way of knowing the RLOD will ever hit me.... so i cant exchange a dead kaiser/tilt
So i ask you tilt users to advise me...... thanks in advance
Will the data work on T-Mobile's 3G when they launch it this summer?
Is there any way to use the front facing camera (video call or some sort of messenger, whatever) on T-Mobile?
What about the push to talk- will that work on T-Mobile?
T-Mobile is so much cheaper than AT&T, and I really want a Kaiser, preferably an unbranded one with front facing camera...
funkadesi said:
hi there, Im currently a wizard user and i love it
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Not a tilt user, mine is an o2 (UK) branded Kaiser. I was a HTC Universal user and loved that. What prompted me to upgrade (apart from the fact the upgrade was free!) was the intergrated GPS and larger memory. I'm very pleased with my little Kaiser in comparison to the size of the Uni and love having everything onboard.
But the million dollar question really is what do you use your Wizard for?
For me, it's a bit of Internet use (love Opera Mobile) over WiFi, ebook reading, PIM, MP3 player, email, skype over Wifi, gaming (but nothing much more intensive than solitaire). I use TomTom don't seem to suffer from the jerky graphics as much as others, and having the GPS onboard is priceless, cos I know that the 1 day I would really need it, I'd have left the external GPS at home with the Uni! I have watched some videos, but I've re-encoded them to a lower bitrate, yes the Kaiser does have issues with high bitrate video's. However on balance, the higher internal memory and integrated GPS means my Kaiser does everything my Universal did, only I don't have to worry about where I'm installing applications, or leaving things at home.
So whilst I am very happy with my purchase, I have noticed my device performs better than some at the tasks I use it for. So it's back to you to tell us what you want yours for!
SaltyDawg said:
Will the data work on T-Mobile's 3G when they launch it this summer?
Is there any way to use the front facing camera (video call or some sort of messenger, whatever) on T-Mobile?
What about the push to talk- will that work on T-Mobile?
T-Mobile is so much cheaper than AT&T, and I really want a Kaiser, preferably an unbranded one with front facing camera...
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Have they even confirmed with the rolling out of their "3g"?
well I use my phone for Im/Texting alot and GPS is another major application for me, I drive alot so its quite important for me, ofcourse at the end of the day im gonna use to make calls.
only thing im stuck on is wether i need the qwety keyboard or not
GPS is worth it
I use iGo 2006 and like it a lot. For me, the GPS is why the phone is worth it.
My complaints are that: the speakerphone is not good; the camera could be better and is useless in low light; no insurance offered by at&t; battery life, but I am used to it by now... needs a charge every few days or so depending on what you use (GPS will kill it quickly); the graphics problem is annoying, maybe programs like navigon would work smoothly but the phone is still worth it, I never use my video ipod to watch media because I don't like the small screen.
With WM6, I use SBSH software pocketbreeze for functionality and wisbar advance for looks. Most people care about the speed, but I'm happy with it. Oh yeah, Q-Mobile 1.2 has made the phone much more stable.
One last thing, I got mine for $75 after rebates but I would not have gone over $300. That's me though, some people have money and want a tech gadget that they can customize to their liking.
I upgraded to the Tilt from the 8125 a month ago and have been very pleased with my purchase. Obviously there will be risks of the thing bricking down the road, but you shouldn't let that scare you away from a purchase. If anything, that should be incentive for you to buy the HTC branded version of the phone and not the Tilt.
Just my opinion, but I would stay away from ebay too. The thought of buying fairly expensive electronics sight-unseen from an anonymous seller has always seemed kinda sketchy to me.
Love my tilt. The gps, 3G and faster processor was why i upgraded. I mostly use iGO , Flexmail, MSN, and Google Maps when I'm out. Sold my Wizard 8125 and picked up the tilt.... I have to say that i am very happy so far.
I've had the best phones of every carried in the MidEast area. Touch, Dash, BB Curve, MotoQ9h, and now the Kaiser. Its the best phone with the most available features. The ability to customize the phone in an endless number of ways makes this phones worth a lot more than it is. Even though the video displays aren't the best and worse than predecessors, its still a killer phone. Plus, you cant find a better community, in terms of developers and activity, than XDA. I say this because I was on a lot of there forums and I can say that the amount of intelligence here is amazing.
Get the kaiser and return it if your dont like it.
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Have they even confirmed with the rolling out of their "3g"?
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This is pretty much all I know about it:
http://www.phonenews.com/mwc-t-mobi...aunch-in-summer-possible-android-device-2739/
So sometime this summer.
Hello
Is it possible to see the person you are having a video-conversation with in fullscreen?
With that sharp high resolution VGA screen of ours, do you really need full screen? You can clearly see the detail of both video windows the way it is.
Well, yeah, but would still be nice if it is possible...
Psh, wish I had that problem. Here, stateside, AT&T has the only video calling feature available, "Video share". $4.99 for 4 minutes or $9.99 for 16 minutes per month, and it only streams one way, they can't see you if you're giving them a video stream. Stupid. And yet they'll probably remove the front facing camera on the Touch Pro, because who wants to talk to each other face to face anyways?
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Psh, wish I had that problem. Here, stateside, AT&T has the only video calling feature available, "Video share". $4.99 for 4 minutes or $9.99 for 16 minutes per month, and it only streams one way, they can't see you if you're giving them a video stream. Stupid. And yet they'll probably remove the front facing camera on the Touch Pro, because who wants to talk to each other face to face anyways?
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and you got to the moon...hmmm i begin to believe the "moon on a tv studio" theory
we do gave here full 3g and 3.5 now (don't know and don't care what's that).
video calls are taken as granted here but not many ppl are using it.
lot of pranks but that's another story..
I probably wouldn't use it that much, maybe to talk to my girlfriend who's stuck in Texas for a few weeks but that's about it... I just don't understand why it's not available. I mean, not to say you're not ahead of us, but it's not like Europe blows us away in technological ability... We have 3G pretty much nation wide here, and the phones we have certainly have the capability for a front mounted camera... But they get removed (ie Tilt).
KukurikU said:
and you got to the moon...hmmm i begin to believe the "moon on a tv studio" theory
we do gave here full 3g and 3.5 now (don't know and don't care what's that).
video calls are taken as granted here but not many ppl are using it.
lot of pranks but that's another story..
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I hear what your saying - Same problem in the UK, its available but not used all that much. I remember those 3g news articles many years ago touting one of the main features of 3g being video calling!
Considering you can video conference over 64k isdn im not sure why it couldn't have been done with Edge!
Full screen would be nice tho!
it's really useful for internet which is not soo painfully slow as gprs
I think the problem is a lack of applications to drive the use of Video calling. Here in Dubai, we have 3G and 3.5G everywhere (KuKuriKu: 3.5 gives you data speeds of up to 7.2 mbps on your mobile if configured properly on the network). The service is available everywhere and most phones on the market come with two cameras and the service itself is very inexpensive yet usage is still quite low. I'm a heavy user and I find that the only time I use the front camera is for MMS- only used video call in the beginning when it was a novelty (apart from the occasional need to tease someone when you're at the pub and they're stuck at the office when only live video will suffice )
Sooo, no one has a suggestion how its done? full screen videocall? :s
well, I'm interested too, in Kaiser videocall settings you are able to set fullscreen videocall, but in our Diamond there are only two options: both pictures (large or small). I was looking for a registry key or something else... anyone?? Thanks.
Well looks like I am going to be buying a new phone in January. The Tilt seems to be the best bet for me at the moment but I have to ask.
Knowing what you know now would you buy another Kaiser based phone today? Or would you grab something a little newer? Is there anything comparable?
Thanks!
Richard
AT&T made my hate HTC becasue they keep sending me ****ty refurbs. Each time there is a diff problem with it..
So a big NO for me.
Absolutely not. Even the reviews I read didn't show how terrible this phone was; they only spoke praise of it. I feel lied to by AT&T and HTC, who claimed it would be the most multimedia capable phone in the U.S.. It came to me unable to play most videos at more than 12 fps.
Short solution: next time I'm buying a BlackBerry.
The Fuze is the AT&T upgrade to the Tilt, and I may have bought that had it been out when I purchased my tilt, but I have to say I love my tilt. Sure, it has it's problems with the video drivers, but I'm sure someone will eventually get it worked out. The phone works great for me otherwise. It has so many features jammed into one phone, I couldn't be without it.
I wouldn't get a blackberry or nojia because I love WM platform. There are other HTC devices that have better video drivers, but nothing else except the Fuze has a pull out keyboard in addition to the rest of the features (like GPS, wifi, bluetooth, SD slot, etc.) that I love so much.
WOW!
WOW! Actualy its a great phone! I would def get another! But the Diamond and the fuze have also peeked my intrest! It depends what you are willing to spend! There is no such thing as the perfect phone but I love my tilt and I have T-Mobile! Because of the Fuze AT&T is offering some realy good deals on the Tilt and you can get them just as cheap online if you dont want the data plan! With the ROM chefs we have here now they are better than ever, I have TF3D running on mine and it is fast and stable! So to sum it up, I would say yes, great phone, would recomend to anyone!
You've got to be kidding. This phone has put me off giving money to HTC for a long time. It's not so much that there's anything specifically wrong with it that I can point you to as one good reason to avoid it, it's just that there's nothing rightabout it either.
I would say Yes, if I was on a budget, and maybe an Xperia if I was not. After playing around on the Fuze I would skip it, for reasons, including the iPhoning of the phone. But I have to agree with Bartzilla about the rightness of the Tilt. I needed to perform some extensive tweaking and unlocking, and app tuning before it worked just right. BUT I LOVE IT NOW
I like mine, especially for the money.
I bought the AT&T refurbished and "touch wood" have been happy with it so far.
Pretty good all round. I've had a Diamond and thought it was a big let down.
If someone sorts these videodrivers out it could be very good.
I'd do it again in a heartbeat, especially for what I got my tilt for.
Ill start off by first saying i love my kaiser, its by far the best phone i have ever owned. That being said it is also the most FRUSTERATING and DISSAPOINTING phone i have ever had my hands on. The video drivers are the worst but little things like the terrible keyboard lag and way too slow UI make this phone seem outdated. with these issues in mind i wll be taking my chances with the touch pro when my contract is up in feb. No way would i get another tilt.
I typically don't use the device to watch videos or **** like that. However, I have a ton of applications and programs. I tested the BB Bold for sometime and I thought it was lacking 3rd party applications. I tested Iphone but I wanted to throw it at every metrosexual I saw using the same device. I have not tested the Touch Pro/Fuze or whatever you want to call it but all in all I have the perfect rom and radio on my device and I am happy I am still with my Tilt.
So basically if I am just using it as a phone and maybe for reasing ebooks, listening to mp3's it would be ok? Would there be a better phone for that?
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So basically if I am just using it as a phone and maybe for reasing ebooks, listening to mp3's it would be ok? Would there be a better phone for that?
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If you're using it as a phone look elsewhere
If you plan on listening to mp3's the battery drains too quickly
I don't release eBooks so I can't help you
I use it for listening to MP3s over Bluetooth Stereo and get ~4-5 hours/charge with a decent reserve. Not bad.
It has far better battery life than my Wizard did - by about 70%. BIG difference. I can do two+ hours of streaming video off my ORB server and still have half my charge left. With the Wizard I'd be getting a low-battery warning.
Phone calls? No problems.
I have it pulling email every 10 minutes from an echo of my main email box over IMAP; I don't have an Exchange server.
While battery life isn't great compared to the Wizard its excellent. I easily get a full day's average use and have 40% charge remaining; with the Wizard if I was threatened with being away from a place I could get either a USB or 12V tap (e.g. out of my car) I'd carry a spare battery. I have one for the Kaiser but rarely bother sticking it in my pocket, as I've yet to run out of power in an average day's use.
Well man thats an excellent question, I really like my Tilt alot but like everyone says it has its setbacks but what phone doesn't. I guess it would really depend on ones spending limit. Its an excellent phone very many features and buttons (which I for one like) this is actually one of the things keeping me from getting a Fuze (would really like VGA). Sorry if Im not much help Ive been pondering my choice of phones the last few little whiles.
I like the Tilt A LOT!
sure it has a couple of wrinkles that need to be ironed out, but you learn to work around the bugs.....so everything else is AWSOME!
I would say it depends on what features are important for you
- for example
Kaiser supports GSM 850 Mhz band (in addition to 900/1800/1900) and the Diamond or the Touch-pro don't seem to. Considering the areas where I need to frequently travel that becomes an important criterion for me. A full QWERTY hardware keyboard is important for me. That therefore rules out many otherwise very good devices. And so on. There is probably no single phone that is the best in every feature - I would say make a list of things that matter and prioritize them to decide.
have to agree that it'll depend on the stuff you'd like to use it for.
as a main phone, my kaiser is still doing well, and i will definitely buy another PPC phone, as i need the full compatibility with outlook. also, third party and custom software is much more available for this platform at the moment. i have movies and mp3s on my phone but mostly as backups to pass the time. what i use more are GPS navigation, dictionaries, minor excel spreadsheet usage, voice recording, emergency note taker/document editor, internet/surfing, calculator, and i also like being able to customize the today screen to show an extensive range of appointments (90 days through SPB diary). i've been using PPCs for the last 5 years, so i didn't have too many issues with the kaiser, but i didnt' have very high expectations of them either. the usual cons apply and i still face the same huge amounts of grief i experience whenever my phone crashes (due to my fault or the phone's fault). i've used my friend's touch pro, and it doesn't feel all that much snappier than my kaiser after i have optimized my kaiser.
as a backup device though, i recently bought a nokia 6210 navigator. i wanted the n82 but couldn't afford it. i have to say the symbian interface is very slick, and it just works out of the box, and it does what it does fairly snappily, and it feels faster than the kaiser. but, and perhaps it's because i'm still new to the symbian platform, customizing it is more difficult and especially with this new symbian s60 3rd platform, where new programs must be digitally signed. there are ways to get around it, but seems like a bit of a hassle to a new user, and 3rd party and other random apps seem harder to find for this platform. but basically if you don't intend to modify, then these nokias are almost idiot-proof.
Hey guys,
I've been a very happy camper with my htc Touch (ELFin) running dsixda's Onyx ROM. Though not especially powerful, the ELFin has been a great package doing most of the stuffs I expect from a smartphone, but I couldn't be happier with it.
But then, as I'm sure most of you know, there comes the itch for a new toy, and the fact ELFin only has a QVGA screen and not VGA/WVGA seems to get on my mind more everday, and the fact it doesn't have built-in GPS also gets pretty annoying.
So I've been thinking of an upgrade, and right now the Diamond and Diamond 2 are on top of my list.
I am looking for a slim smartphone phone that does email, lite web surfing, the usual PDA, GPS device (I use tomtom right now on the ELFin) ... I also read plenty of ebook on my smartphone.
What I'm NOT looking for, is a multi-media player. I rarely listen to music off my phone, and almost never watch video's on it.
The Diamond and Diamond 2 both seem to fit the bill.
I like the D2 between the 2, because it has a longer screen, which I presume is better for web surfing and ebook reading. And the screen seems to be the biggest difference between the 2 phones.
The D2 does cost quite a bit more than the Diamond though ... I can get Diamond for about half the price of a D2 (~CDN$300 vs $600)
I also heard D2 that I can get my hands on are from overseas and somehow 3G doesn't work on them with my service provider (Rogers). I can easily get a Rogers branded Diamond though and get 3G. So that's another concern.
I wonder if any of you have looked into upgrading from a Diamond to a D2, and what's your 2 cents on it
Thanks in advance!
no doubt-d2
Diamond's not getting much love?
Sure, you'd expect the D2 to be better than D2, but I just don't know if it justify the premium. The D2 costs almost twice as the D1 (~CDN$600 vs ~$300) and I see the biggest difference being a taller screen, which is good, but I also prefer to have a D-pad than without ... some applications work better with the D-pad.
I also heard my friend, a D1 user, complaining about the phone not being fast enough and rather unstable. That surprised me because I am using the original Touch, which only has a 201MHz processor, but I don't feel it's sluggish in regular use (granted, I don't play video from my phone). Is it a ROM issue potentially, that can be fixed by flashing a newer / custom ROM?
D2 also has more RAM and ROM, microSD slot and a better camera. On the other hand, it still has a very similar CPU (same clock, same family).
Pro D2:
-more RAM (if needed, with Nataly 2.7, S2U2 and SPB Mobile Shell running, I only use 55%)
-larger screen
Cons:
-only few ROMs available, therefore it is still slower compared to the D1
-no magnetic pen shaft
Well, I'm not so sure if those points are enough to pay twice the price for the device.
For me, the lack of hard keys is kind of annoying on my Diamond. And the lack of d-pad on the D2 makes matters worse. Of course, that might not be an issue to you. But if you intend to play any games, that will definitely limit your selection.
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Hey guys,
I've been a very happy camper with my htc Touch (ELFin) running dsixda's Onyx ROM. Though not especially powerful, the ELFin has been a great package doing most of the stuffs I expect from a smartphone, but I couldn't be happier with it.
But then, as I'm sure most of you know, there comes the itch for a new toy, and the fact ELFin only has a QVGA screen and not VGA/WVGA seems to get on my mind more everday, and the fact it doesn't have built-in GPS also gets pretty annoying.
So I've been thinking of an upgrade, and right now the Diamond and Diamond 2 are on top of my list.
I am looking for a slim smartphone phone that does email, lite web surfing, the usual PDA, GPS device (I use tomtom right now on the ELFin) ... I also read plenty of ebook on my smartphone.
What I'm NOT looking for, is a multi-media player. I rarely listen to music off my phone, and almost never watch video's on it.
The Diamond and Diamond 2 both seem to fit the bill.
I like the D2 between the 2, because it has a longer screen, which I presume is better for web surfing and ebook reading. And the screen seems to be the biggest difference between the 2 phones.
The D2 does cost quite a bit more than the Diamond though ... I can get Diamond for about half the price of a D2 (~CDN$300 vs $600)
I also heard D2 that I can get my hands on are from overseas and somehow 3G doesn't work on them with my service provider (Rogers). I can easily get a Rogers branded Diamond though and get 3G. So that's another concern.
I wonder if any of you have looked into upgrading from a Diamond to a D2, and what's your 2 cents on it
Thanks in advance!
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I would highly suggest u to get TOUCH HD. Its a whole lot of new experience. There are too many ROM's available. It rocks
Hello.
After over two years with WinMo, I've had it. I don't need to rant, because everyone knows what it would all be about.
I figured out all I really use is the web, the horrible calendar and the tasks. All of these are buggy and generally suck. I'm in need of a replacement device that can do this for under 300 dollars. No PalmOS, no blackberry.
I'm considering an iPod Touch, but I don't have a free pocket. I would love the Pre, but there's Bell. The iPhone is too expensive, sadly enough, so I'm out of options.
Is there a good phone with good music, web and PIM support that doesnt rely on data? GPS is a plus
Bye WM
Shame to hear that...
have a look on marketplace, good offers can be found!
Perhaps we will see you around in the future again
orb3000 said:
Shame to hear that...
have a look on marketplace, good offers can be found!
Perhaps we will see you around in the future again
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Sadly enough, I doubt so. I found out I'm wasting way too much time on something that should simply be working. I loved the possibilities Windows Mobile offered, but now that many phones compete in the do-it-all field, Microsoft is taking the door.
Windows Mobile is the only mobile platform that will have you edit the registry and download tons of utilities just to get it to work okay. The Diamond was the best phone I've ever seen hardware-wise (perfect size, screen, look...), but Windows Mobile is never getting better (I had 6.5).
What drove me there? Well... my Internal Storage folder, for some unknown reason, changed names to Internal Storage2, and thus everything that relied on this path stopped working right. That was while using my phone in everyday use. On top of that, program crashes, random bugs and horrible PIM apps didn't help.
Let's admit it: Windows Mobile WAS good, back when PalmOS was still alive, but now it's just "that only mobile OS you can tweak". It's true, Windows Mobile can do everything, but it rarely ever does something right.
I still ask the question: what should I get?
On that case try to move to iphoney, as they are made specially to open and use people that not want to spend configuring and customizing and do not care to find that grandma, nephew, store owner, etc have exactly the same device looking almost identical...
For the rest of us that we still like and enjoy to spend hours customizing let´s stick around.
If I was thinking on leave WM I would go definitely to Android...
Have good luck on your new OS platform!
you could get a used iphone for less than 300 beans. but if i were to switch from windows mobile i would go with symbian and get an e71 or n95 or similar.
N1c0_ds said:
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I think you are in the same boat as I was until about three weeks ago. I had a touch pro for about a year, and spent most of that time flashing new roms in the hope that I'd find a quick, stable rom that didn't eat my battery. I hated the web browsers because they were so buggy. In the end I resulted in cooking my own, but couldn't match the output that the top chefs were producing. The bottom line was that I couldn't find a rom that I liked that would do all the things you mentioned as well as I wanted them to.
So I bit the bullet. After using my friend's new Hero, I realised it was exactly what I was looking for in terms of just doing everything well. But the Hero was too expensive - I still have 6months to run on my contract so I can't afford a new contract and a new Hero.
So I bought a used sim free T-Mobile G1 from ebay, rooted it, and am now running a Hero rom. I haven't looked back. What a difference. Smooth, responsive and what a web browser - it rivals the iphone, and as far as i've experienced, the iphone is the best mobile web browsing experience you can have.
So this is my advice. Ditch WM and go Android. You can sync MS outlook contacts on hero roms using HTC Sync, and then store all contacts and calendar appointments online with Google calendar. As far as music and web are concerned, my G1 is a pleasure to use for both. Co-Pilot Live is also great turn based GPS navigation. Bluetooth doesn't work on any Hero rom, but I never use it, so I'm not really that bothered.
I haven't missed my Touch Pro at all since I sold it!
EDIT: I just realised that I haven't mentioned that the G1 does kind of rely on data. You can set most things to not use a data connection - like weather, facebook etc, but contacts and calendar do sync online periodically. I think you can change that as well though, so best do some research first...
Sorry to hear that. My advice is to get a Nokia with Symbian. N95 8GB is still the best Nokia phone.
If you want to be a beta-tester wait for something with Maemo or get Android. The Android phones currently on the market are crappy at best IMHO.
What kind of device do you prefer? Slide-out keyboard or candybar? Touchscreen or not?
I played with Android on a cornertop at a Rogers store and didn't enjoy it. My guess is that it's mostly because I didn't really explore, but compared to the almighty jesus phone, it wasn't worth the price.
The iPhone is 200$ (3y)/800$ with Rogers (tax inc.) and I'm stuck with them. However if I get an iPod Touch, even if I ditch the GPS, it costs me 200$ and I'm free to go with Koodoo (because that's what I'll do next spring).
I really wanted to try Android too, but the iPod Touch is a hassle-free solution. Nonetheless, I keep looking for really cheap Android phones on eBay. The Pre seemed like the most awesome thing ever, but this time it was Bell.
So I bought an iPod Touch 8GB 2 days ago (sold out everywhere, had to order from apple ) and I'll buy a cheap slim phone to complement it.
You should have gotten a Zune HD...
you should get an android phone...maybe the HTC Hero for sprint when it comes out since it'll have a normal headphone jack unlike the other android phones with only usb port