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Battery Diagnostics

Hello,
I have upgraded my Imate PDA2k ROM Helmi_BA_WM2k5_AKU3.5_v1.4.CF2 R2 by baniaczek for about a month now. It has been working perfectly fine with no much issues on Wifi and other stuff. But since last one week i see my battery runs out within 3 hours and each time i had to re-charge the same. Even though the usage is really minimal. ( May be 2 or three calls and no real PDA usage). Also i feel the device is heated up most of the time. Are there any diagnostic tools for battery ?. .. Is this caused by any program running continously.
Any suggestions to find out the battery problem.

It is probably a running program or some activated interface (GPRS, IrDA, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi). Make sure they are all deactivated.

Thanks for the reply. I have tried disabling BT/WiFi / GPS ( even deleted GPS Connections ). Still the battery runs only for 3 to 4 hours. How can i figure out which of the applications might be causing the problem ??..... ( As i stated in my previous post things were fine two weeks back ). I can not figure out!... Can this be a hardware problem ?. Should i try flashing the ROM again ?.
Any suggestions will be of great help.
Thanks.

Is the backlight always on?

No. I think its a hardware problem. I flashed the ROM again and still the battery was draining really fast. Anyways i will change the battery now and check.
regards

Perhaps the battery is getting life expired. THe most common indication of expiring battery is that it stats taking longer to charge and gets drained faster...Try replacing the battery..

Your right but it shouldn't happen in so great leap. You said that you flashed another ROM. Try doing master reset and leave the device in factory-fresh state - do not restore anything from backup imediately. If it is fine then, it is a software problem. If it is not, try turning on the flight mode for determining if it is GSM related. I'm afraid that a new battery won't solve anything.

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i'm guessing that your IR is turned on since you did not state it on your post earlier!
IR eats your battery like pacman does.

bara_too said:
IR eats your battery like pacman does.
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It would still be interesting to have battery diagnostics software. Does anyone know of such a package?

http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/benchmark/batterytests.html?en
might be useful for testing.. could potentially try different screen brightness and speeds to get a comparison. I will say that I used to only get 1 day from my old OEM battery.. got one of the e-bay special 2500mAh and now it easily gets 3 days with the same usage pattern as before..

After a long time again a re-post on this. Well my problems seems to be not getting over. I flashed the PDA2k to factory state and still the battery was draining. Then next obvious thing was to replace the battery. Now i have a brand new battery and reflashed again to factory state and my fears are coming true... still the battery drains in 3 hours... what next guys ?.

cbark2 said:
After a long time again a re-post on this. Well my problems seems to be not getting over. I flashed the PDA2k to factory state and still the battery was draining. Then next obvious thing was to replace the battery. Now i have a brand new battery and reflashed again to factory state and my fears are coming true... still the battery drains in 3 hours... what next guys ?.
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have you checked ur infra red setting? make sure its OFF! i think, it is turned on as default after flashing! or maybe your charger is defective! try someones charger!

IR disabling has not helped in the past. But i tried again but no much use. The equipment is heated up during normal usage time. Is there any thing more i can try before my BA becomes a history. ( BTW. the repair center refused take anything other than the screen changes and battery replacements. !!.. )

Any one having any idea how to reset the bios ?. I think my battery problems are related to trying out the Trial Version of Pocket Hack Master to overclock the PDA. I have uninstalled it long time back and may even have performed three to four times ROM updates but may not have reset the software's overclocking settings back .. ?!!...
BTW. The service center argued out that the any ROM updates other than official Imate ROM will void the warrantee and twice they returned without repair and attributed the the problem of heating to ROM updates... ( without even checking!! ...

I faced the same problem when attempted to upgrade my Harrier. I agree, that there must be an error somewhere in the device BIOS that cannot be that easily reflashed. Unfortunately, I could not find any solution and had to replace the useless phone that drained the battery within 4-5 hrs.

Yes the over clocking eatsup the battery as well as causes heating up the device. So better dactivate the over clocking..

Battery Issue..

I am using and AT&T Tilt. I recently flashed Schap's 4.30 rom. Before then I was using the stock rom. Before the upgrade, I was charging the battery not earlier than 3 days, but after the upgrade my battery is draining lot faster.
But there is another issue. At 5:00 pm the charge level was 99% and at 12:30 am it was 85%...But in the morning at 6:30 am it was under 10% (the phone was in sleep mode during the night)..
Any suggestions to deal with this weird situtation ? It is draining extremely faster during the night.
Best,
Emre

I have two suggestions for you.
1) Read\Post in the Schaps Rom thread and see if others have battery issues.
2) SEARCH. See my sig.
Good luck.

Thank you for your kind suggestions. I already searched the thread before I posted the message.
And the cause of the problem might not be Schap's ROM. The reason I posted my message here is to learn if there is a COMMON tweak in Kaiser that I might consider.
Best..

You are most welcome.
I guess I thought that logically if your battery was good before the Schaps Rom and then went bad after the flash that the issue was due to the flash. There is no widespread battery issue with the Tilt and so there is no COMMON tweak. My guess is that there is something turned on in the Rom that is running and draining the battery, i.e. checking for emails constantly, GPS, or many other possibilites.
If you did indeed search then I am sure you found days worth of reading because your question has been asked many, many times.

Thank you once more..

kimtyson said:
There is no widespread battery issue with the Tilt .
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I dunno about that, but of course it's not so much a battery issue as it is a battery "drain" issue. Some of us in 3G areas see the battery tapped out by mid afternoon with normal use.

aedemirci said:
But there is another issue. At 5:00 pm the charge level was 99% and at 12:30 am it was 85%...But in the morning at 6:30 am it was under 10% (the phone was in sleep mode during the night)..
Any suggestions to deal with this weird situtation ? It is draining extremely faster during the night.
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To me it seems you have a program that keeps the device running when it should be on standby.
What software have you installed? For example, with both my Kaiser and Hermes if I have A2DPToggle installed and its today plugin active the device won't go to standby anymore and will drain the battery in a few hours. S2U2 isn't that bad but will sometimes turn the phone on (with screen staying off) for a moment to do whatever it wants. For example during a 8hr night my uptime counter will have counted about 30 minutes. Might be the auto change wallpaper thing.

flash/reflash radio
spl unlock first
aedemirci said:
I am using and AT&T Tilt. I recently flashed Schap's 4.30 rom. Before then I was using the stock rom. Before the upgrade, I was charging the battery not earlier than 3 days, but after the upgrade my battery is draining lot faster.
But there is another issue. At 5:00 pm the charge level was 99% and at 12:30 am it was 85%...But in the morning at 6:30 am it was under 10% (the phone was in sleep mode during the night)..
Any suggestions to deal with this weird situtation ? It is draining extremely faster during the night.
Best,
Emre
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Battery life problems

Right then,
I am a n00b here, and am expecting a bunch of 'search for it' responses that seem common in my reading of the forum over the past day or so. I have tried all of the tweaks recommended and still suffer from poor battery life. Today for example, day 4 of having the phone, and having been charged approximately 6 times during that time, the phone has only 2 green 'bars' of power left after only 8 hours of being on. During that time I have made no phone calls, and sent/received about 8 sms messages.
Anyone have any ideas or similar problems? I understand that this phone suffers from limited battery power, but mine seems particularly bad.
Thanks anyone who can help.

could be a bad battery?
I improved mine by disabling the GPRS auto-attach (massive saving) and truning off wifi using comm manager when not using it but by the sound of it you have tried these...
Mine lasts a few days now.
I also got good results from Bepe's and TDP's ROMs but it's probably nad to flash if you are thinking of sending it back as faulty...

Yes, also as a 'n00b' I'm not too confident flashing it just yet. The battery does get hot during charging, something others say doesn't happen. I think it may be a faulty battery. I have turned off the auto-attach and also wifi, as well as any other tweaks that were mentioned on here regarding battery life. Nothing seems to be working. Anyone else have any input? Thanks.

Same problem here.
I also flashed it with TLR ROM... but the problem is the same and very annoying.
I use it in a very normal way without any strange usages.
For me the battery resists only 75% of the day... and it is terrible!!!
I tried also with the minumum of brightness.... but you can't use it like this all the time!!!
Any suggestions??
Thnx!!

I am thinking of phoning Orange (who I got the phone from) and asking for their help. I think I might have to send the phone back which I really don't want to do. I hope they might just ship me a replacement battery.

wow. u get 4 hours? mines more like 2 hours. im on my 2nd diamond with the same results. i tried all the different roms also. u are not alone. my fix was going back to using my old touch.

You should flash a new rom..I recommend you shep's new rom and get radio 1.12.25.19 with matched rilphone2.dll..your diamond will stop suffering from battery draining.

evilskanker said:
Right then,
I am a n00b here, and am expecting a bunch of 'search for it' responses that seem common in my reading of the forum over the past day or so. I have tried all of the tweaks recommended and still suffer from poor battery life.
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Just in case you haven't tried all tweaks and tips yet, have a look at this Battery Conservation Fanatic thread.

If the battery is OK, you should try with a new rom. I had the same problem: my Diamond were with Vodafone default ROM and the battery lasted half a day... now with a cooked ROM, the battery lasts near two days.
Good luck!

900 mAh is btw way too small for such a phone, I recommend you to get a new rom/new battery. I'm waiting soooo much on my new 1800 mAh battery........

Rapid battery drain (under 7hrs)

Hi all,
over the last 2 weeks i have noticed my diamond getting pretty damn hot on random occasions and really chewing through the battery, i have run task manager when this occurs but no process is shown using alot of CPU.
I have read alot of threads on here descibing similar symptoms, some are just people who have wifi on or using CPU intensive applications, this i expect. But a few other users have described symptoms similar to mine where they are not using the phone and nothing appears to be running.
I am getting the problem with both my original HTC battery and the 3rd party spare i brought.
From reading the board the only definite cure seems to be a hard reset.
What im really after is any suggestions you people may have that can help me determin the actual cause of the problem, for example is their any software that will log CPU usuage over time or other diagnostic ideas.
thanks for your time

checking email regularly?
rumpleforeskin said:
Hi all,
over the last 2 weeks i have noticed my diamond getting pretty damn hot on random occasions and really chewing through the battery, i have run task manager when this occurs but no process is shown using alot of CPU.
I have read alot of threads on here descibing similar symptoms, some are just people who have wifi on or using CPU intensive applications, this i expect. But a few other users have described symptoms similar to mine where they are not using the phone and nothing appears to be running.
I am getting the problem with both my original HTC battery and the 3rd party spare i brought.
From reading the board the only definite cure seems to be a hard reset.
What im really after is any suggestions you people may have that can help me determin the actual cause of the problem, for example is their any software that will log CPU usuage over time or other diagnostic ideas.
thanks for your time
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Maybe you might wanna check if you have the automatic mail checking feature on? Because I noticed that whenever I let my phone automatically look for email quite regularly (i.e. every 5 or 10 mins) it drains more battery then when you set it to check email every 2 hours for instance. Well that's what has helped in my case...hope this helps...

I have looked at my mail settings and my mail checks every 2 hours, i have had it set to 2 hours since i had the device (6 months) but this rapid battery drain has only started occuring in the last 2 weeks.
In that time i have not installed any new software, so am at a loose end as to the cause of the trouble

Hello,
I did had the same symptom : worked really good for 6 months (battery lasted for 30h +-) and in one time, battery was sucked out in 8 ! I did buy a new one (900mah) and it did the same. The only solution I find was to buy the 1350mah (htc) one and from this moment it last more than 2 days without any problem.
Also, I use G-light in place of the standard windows function and from this moment I really had a difference (from BatLog I went from 142mah to 123mah).
Hope it help (yeah I know: buying a bigger battery is not fun but for a device at this price, it's not so much...)

costp said:
Hello,
I did had the same symptom : worked really good for 6 months (battery lasted for 30h +-) and in one time, battery was sucked out in 8 ! I did buy a new one (900mah) and it did the same. The only solution I find was to buy the 1350mah (htc) one and from this moment it last more than 2 days without any problem.
Also, I use G-light in place of the standard windows function and from this moment I really had a difference (from BatLog I went from 142mah to 123mah).
Hope it help (yeah I know: buying a bigger battery is not fun but for a device at this price, it's not so much...)
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thanks for the feedback, i will order a new battery and give it a try, at the least it will prove if the problem is hardware or software related.
today my phone still has 63% battery since i removed it from charge at 11pm last night. The fact that the problem is intermittent is making it very dificult to diagnose.

Today I noticed my wi-fi drains battery as hell, it was lie 60%+ of battery down in less than 40 minutes. In the past it was like 40% max. The PowerGuard's current meter did not show anything alarming. So the problem seems to be hardware.
Already backed up and hard resetted. The phone is under warranty and so is battery; sending it to service to get it fixed.
Or, I missed something and I can fix it?

Hey,
Yeah I'm currently experiencing the same problem.. I tired just about everything from battery fix cab, radios, to roms. I even got the orginal extended battery. The battery worked really well for like 2 weeks and then it started to drain really fast as well.. My cousin have the same phone as me HTC Diamond, and his battery is verry good.. It can last a whole day with heavy usage no problem. Where as my 1340MAH battery would only lask for 14hrs max with heavy usage, and when we switch the battery same stuff happens... His battery on my phone drains quickly and mine last long on his phone...
So I came to the conclusion that it's definitely a hardware issue.

For those without battery problem, how much usage do you get out of a battery and what kind of things do you do with the phone? I'm just trying to gauge how bad my batter is. It will last about 8-9 hours, but that's with hald of that time spent on the internet on either 3g or edge. I've only had the phone for about a week so it's hard for me to compare it to anything else.

other little things like disabling autobacklight and disabling 3G will help as well.
rgds

One of the things you might want to check is if your phone is constantly trying to switch from 2g to 3g or HSPDA. This constant searching for a "faster" signal can make the phone quite hot and drain the battery quite quickly.
I had it on my diamond when I used to live at my old place as it was right on the edge of a 2g/HSPDA and the phone was constantly trying to get a decent HSPDA signal. The battery would last maybe half a day if I was lucky. Since moving to a decent 3g area, the battery now lasts me a good 2 days on nomal usage. This is with the original battery.

jfran said:
other little things like disabling autobacklight and disabling 3G will help as well.
rgds
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a good tip to save battery power which is something we all have to do, but i do not think its the cause of my new found rapid battery drain.
The last 6 moths i have been getting around a day to day and a half rom the the phone. now on random occasions ot will get real hot (like the gps/wifi is on or like the cpu is flat out) and the power goes in a few hours.
this is fine if its daytime and catch it but a few times its gone from 100% to 0% overnight and i have woken late for work.
Graffen said:
One of the things you might want to check is if your phone is constantly trying to switch from 2g to 3g or HSPDA. This constant searching for a "faster" signal can make the phone quite hot and drain the battery quite quickly.
I had it on my diamond when I used to live at my old place as it was right on the edge of a 2g/HSPDA and the phone was constantly trying to get a decent HSPDA signal. The battery would last maybe half a day if I was lucky. Since moving to a decent 3g area, the battery now lasts me a good 2 days on nomal usage. This is with the original battery.
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interesting, i will leave the phone on 2G for the next few weeks and see if i experiance the rapid drain, maybe i am on the edge of a 2G 3G nexus, as i do get a fairly weak signal here (2 bars 3G and full bars 2G)
thanks for the suggestion

rumpleforeskin said:
interesting, i will leave the phone on 2G for the next few weeks and see if i experiance the rapid drain, maybe i am on the edge of a 2G 3G nexus, as i do get a fairly weak signal here (2 bars 3G and full bars 2G)
thanks for the suggestion
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From you last sentance it does sound like it the 2g/3g switching that is cauing your problems.

i have this issue too.
my phone will drain ~5-7% every hour in standby. and when wifi is on it drains 2% every minute even staying on the home screen and me not doing anything on the phone.
from reading this thread, i can see that this is definitely not normal. looks like i'm headed for a dreaded hard reset...

Good day to all. At first sorry form my eanglish/
I have a same problem with diamond. It is overheating while charging at standby (battery temp. is about 50 C), and if it charges by USB, the battery temp is about 46 - 47 C. The phone's fly mode is switch on. HTC service couldn't answer me smth. But it says that same problem have 2 diamond from 1000, and only way to resolve problem is a change of mother board. in Russia it's about 250 euro.

And one more notice, which battery temp is 46 or 47 C, charging automaticaly switched off... Phone heating, but battery is not charging !!!

i've resolve problem...but don't know how i did it. I try to recharging stock acc. while 4 or 5 cicles, and today i have workable Diamond.
not discharge
not overheating
it's so strange, but it works

Battery Life hacks? Which one?

Hi,
I came across this cab file today for the Kaiser http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2132767&postcount=151
its right said:
ok guys, some of you want to increase the battery life, i attached a cab file which contains these registries:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\L2TP1\Parms]
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Irsir1\Parms]
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\AsyncMac1\Parms]
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\PPTP1\Parms]
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\L2TP1\Parms]
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:0
all of these can improve the battery life, but if you face any issues with WiFi, just check these registries .
enjoy.
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Has this been used in preference to, or in conjuction with the cab found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1351827&postcount=6
Power Saving.cab
sd-battery-save.cab
I have spent about an hour trolling through all sorts of posts and would like any feedback on what is recommended.
Thanks in advance.

anyone have any comments? surely im not the only one trying to get a full day out of the stock battery.

This is the best hack out there.
http://cgi.ebay.com/AT-T-TILT-8925-...s?hash=item1c05a465c2&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

if I not wrong, sp call battery hack ..it not really hack to battery, It only reduce the phone keep searching the network (which consume a lot battery ...according to some forum).
I think this one better ..2800mah ...
http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2...00-110-120-O2-XDA-Stellar-2800mAh-Battery.htm

My phone will last about 3 days by measurement if I'm not running Flexmail with two mailboxes online. Otherwise, 14 hours.
Want a full day out of your Tilt? Limit network activities, or interactive activities, and don't use the GPS. Network, backlight, and GPS are probably the biggest power users on the Tilt. I assume WiFi too, but the only thing I've used WiFi on my Tilt is for scanning for open access points.

Sorry bumping thread couple of months old....
I've got a Kaiser HTC TyTN II and my battery is a shame.... i can't get it until the end of the day, always getting empty at the end of the day....
What can i do to improve the battery life time?
I've installed those cabs, but nothing really happens....
My phone idle during the night takes like 20-25% of the total battery.
I just use my phone to make and receive calls (lot of them), and sometimes the bluetooth when staying at the car.
Some time ago i ordered a 2800mah battery, but i really don't want to carry always a replacement battery with me, besides its really heavy and big....
Thank you for you advices.

xpgo said:
Sorry bumping thread couple of months old....
I've got a Kaiser HTC TyTN II and my battery is a shame.... i can't get it until the end of the day, always getting empty at the end of the day....
What can i do to improve the battery life time?
I've installed those cabs, but nothing really happens....
My phone idle during the night takes like 20-25% of the total battery.
I just use my phone to make and receive calls (lot of them), and sometimes the bluetooth when staying at the car.
Some time ago i ordered a 2800mah battery, but i really don't want to carry always a replacement battery with me, besides its really heavy and big....
Thank you for you advices.
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There's an old saying begars can't be choosers... Kinda makes sense you want better battery life yet you want to stick to stock battery.
Ummmm? Buy a OEM new stock battery if the size of 2800 is too much? To be honest the Tilt is a brick anyway so i'm happy to have aprx 1cm added to the base... Also maybe time to try all the Radio's available to see if you can get better battery life, while @ it hard-reset device to start from fresh