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1) I heard some news a while back that three different Kaisers were submitted to the FCC; one was the full Kaiser as we know it, another had the front camera removed, and the third had something else removed as well (I think it was the rear camera). Does anyone know which of these three will be released as the 8925?
2) Does AT&T usually install bloatware with their ROMs? If so, could I flash an 8925 with a TYTN II ROM or would that run a risk of bricking the device?
3) if I decide to buy the 8925, it'll be without a contract. Still though, I'm wary. See, I'm currently using an unlocked HTC p3300 (Artemis), even though I'm still successfully using a "MEdia Max" smartphone data plan grandfathered back when I had a windows mobile smartphone, to get full internet access at a lower cost. I just slipped the simcard into the p3300 when I bought it and used the internet as I always did. I'd like to continue to operate 'under the radar' so to speak, but I'm afraid it won't go so smoothly this time if I buy a device straight from AT&T. Does anyone know if AT&T does some sort of owner / device lookup when you buy a new phone, to ensure you're using the "correct" service? In this case, they might force me to go with a PDA data plan, which costs twice as much - something I'd rather not do!
4) Will the kaiser's usage of HSDPA trigger a 'red flag' on this "Media Max" smartphone data plan I have and incur all sorts of extra charges? Or are there other smartphones out on the AT&T market already that feature HSDPA?
On 3), I posed a similar question a while ago:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324535
In that thread someone suggests the best option is to tell the AT&T rep when you buy the 8925 that you just want to keep your existing plan 'as is'. Hopefully that will work!
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On 3), I posed a similar question a while ago:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324535
In that thread someone suggests the best option is to tell the AT&T rep when you buy the 8925 that you just want to keep your existing plan 'as is'. Hopefully that will work!
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The easiest way if the ATT rep gives you a problem is to tell them you dont want any data plan, then go on the online account manager and add the MediaMax Plan yourself. And if the online manager does not list the MediaMax due to your phone being a PDA and not a phone (this happens sometimes but not usually) then borrow a friends phone (or in my case go to the closet and pick a random phone that is collecting dust) and transfer SIM and wait for ATT online to think you have a phone and then the feature for MediaMax will appear.
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The easiest way if the ATT rep gives you a problem is to tell them you dont want any data plan, then go on the online account manager and add the MediaMax Plan yourself. And if the online manager does not list the MediaMax due to your phone being a PDA and not a phone (this happens sometimes but not usually) then borrow a friends phone (or in my case go to the closet and pick a random phone that is collecting dust) and transfer SIM and wait for ATT online to think you have a phone and then the feature for MediaMax will appear.
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Interesting - so if you pop your SIM card into another phone, the system will automatically update to reflect this other phone? I always figured it just showed you the last phone you purchased....
I always just tell the AT&T rep that this is a gift for a girlfriend, and when you get home, just pop in your old sim... No harm no foul. Worked for me.
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I always just tell the AT&T rep that this is a gift for a girlfriend, and when you get home, just pop in your old sim... No harm no foul. Worked for me.
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hahah that's a good one!
although frankly i think hell will freeze over before any female will be caught lugging one of these big old HTC devices around..
demione said:
hahah that's a good one!
although frankly i think hell will freeze over before any female will be caught lugging one of these big old HTC devices around..
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We are waiting for the ladies to flame this guy. To add to it.....
I was on a plane and saw this business lady with her IBM laptop working on a spreadsheet and next to it was her 8525. She looked at a contact and then put it down on the tray table. The screen looked like she impaled it with her tweezers. It was such a stereo type moment to see such disrespect for such a high quality piece of electronics.
Are you wanting to buy it at the 2yr contract pricing? Or are you buying it at full retail(no commitment) pricing? If you want to buy it full retail, I would most definitely buy an unlocked phone elsewhere. If you're wanting the discount, you can buy the phone, sign the contract and then if you're made to switch your plan, take an old phone, call up CS and tell them you want to change your IMEI and also switch to the 19.99 Media Max plan. It's really that simple. As far as them flagging your account for HSDPA usage(I've never seen something like that in the 4 yrs I've worked for att/cingular), if you get ridiculous ie over 100mb's then you may need to worry, but to be perfectly honest with you, if you put your sim in a phone...they can tell what kind it is...doesn't matter if you call in to change the IMEI or not. If you need more details, feel free to PM me.
i didn't wait...i'm using my Tytn II w/Smartphone Connect data plan as I had been with my Trinity for the last year. this includes tethering with data usage averaging 600MB+ per month over the last 9 months. i purchased a 3125 from ATT last Sep/Oct and got the Smartphone data plan at that time... wifey has the phone now and i'm using the SIM with my Tytn II. it's my experience that tethering will connect using HSDPA by default and work down to UMTS and/or Edge if the faster services are not available... so far no issues with MaMa Bell (a.k.a., ATT)....
I have T-mobile and I really like the Tilt. If I were to able to get it unlocked will it work on T-Mobile's network?
If you you already have the HTC Tilt and using it on T-Mobile are there any conflicts?
soloheat13 said:
I have T-mobile and I really like the Tilt. If I were to able to get it unlocked will it work on T-Mobile's network?
If you you already have the HTC Tilt and using it on T-Mobile are there any conflicts?
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Yes It works, I have not had any problems on T-mobile
You don't have any problems sending and receiving messages, or getting on the web?
How would I get it unlocked?
for the love of god please do NOT BUY A TILT!! can you not read all of the major threads in this forum? the htc tytn11 aka att tilt is a big pile of s***. If people keep buying this phone, htc will do nothing about the problems of this phone. get informed and buy a different phone please.
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Well I am sure the Tilt is not as bad as the Wing!!!
wsmith79 said:
for the love of god please do NOT BUY A TILT!! can you not read all of the major threads in this forum? the htc tytn11 aka att tilt is a big pile of s***. If people keep buying this phone, htc will do nothing about the problems of this phone. get informed and buy a different phone please.
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DUDE, calm down. . . some people wont use it for what we use it so the problem wont make it self that obvious. Geez. . . the tilt is the best pda out(just lacking drivers) and it is nice to use. . .
wsmith79 said:
for the love of god please do NOT BUY A TILT!! can you not read all of the major threads in this forum? the htc tytn11 aka att tilt is a big pile of s***. If people keep buying this phone, htc will do nothing about the problems of this phone. get informed and buy a different phone please.
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I think the tilt is a great phone, even if it isn't as great as it has potential to be. If something happened to mine today, I would buy another tomorrow. If you want a phone specifically for watching videos and taking pictures you could do better, but the tilt is one of best PDAs on the market right now (if not THE best).
HTC definately needs to come up with some drivers for us, but you have to admit, they still made one heck of a nice phone.
With my Tilt on T-Mobile I get all my services fine. I even use the 5.99 data plan for my internet on it. I reflashed to Dutty's 6.1, and when I hard reset, it asked me if I wanted to auto configure to T-Mobile's settings. Hit yes, viola, done.
Hey, all you haters out there: He probably already read the NUMEROUS threads about the driver issues. How could he miss them? Please let newbies make their own decisions on what devices they want to purchase. All he has to do is lurk, and he'll find more than enough information on the Tilt/Kaiser.
I have had no problems at all with my tilt and tmobile. Two ways to get it unlocked are to call att and ask them to unlock it for you, or what most people are now unlocking it themselves using jockyw2001 Kaiser Sim Unlocker. Here is the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361039
Good luck do a lot of reading.
wsmith79 said:
for the love of god please do NOT BUY A TILT!! can you not read all of the major threads in this forum? the htc tytn11 aka att tilt is a big pile of sh**. If people keep buying this phone, htc will do nothing about the problems of this phone. get informed and buy a different phone please.
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email routing issue + cannot download TM's w/ pics
Hi All ~~
It sounds like I may have found the right msg board! I am a T-Mobile customer using an unlocked AT&T phone with the original ROM (minus the bloatware). I currently have three msging accounts on the Tilt: test msging, a hotmail account and a work email account. I am having two annoying problems:
(1) I keep getting TMs saying that I have received an email on my work account; however I cannot (a) get the text msg notifications to turn off, nor (b) get the emails to actually pull down into the account. So: I know I have a work email (even who from), but cannot read it. Any thoughts on how to resolve either or both of these issues?
(2) I cannot receive or send pic text msgs. Really annoying; I am curious to see how other T-Mobile Tilt users have their settings arranged for this.
Thank you in advance for any assistance you can provide ~~ Kim
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Tilt on T-mob
Im in the same boat.. A little further down the river.. Here is what I did.. Bought a brand new Tilt of Craigslist for $300.. I did 3 things..
I used a service on Ebay that gave me the unlock code for my phone.. search TILT or HTC unlock on ebay.. Costs $13 and is well worth it to avoid the risk of flashing the phone.. ++ I don't know how valuable your time is but it was well worth $13 to me.. It takes a while of digging around in the forums and figuring things out before you feel comfortable with all of the procedures and language.. I think I saw my phone actually trembling with fear as I plugged her in for a flash.. Maybe that was me..
Getting the unlock code for your phone gets the tilt working right out of the gate.. Put in your Tmobile sim, enter the unlock code and voila!! The only thing you need to do now is change the network settings for T-mobile Data..
After getting the phone unlocked, I did finally get the Hard SPL to work.. After that I flashed Dutty's new 6.1 Rom.. Everything is working great.. Love this phone..
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wsmith79 said:
for the love of god please do NOT BUY A TILT!! can you not read all of the major threads in this forum? the htc tytn11 aka att tilt is a big pile of s***. If people keep buying this phone, htc will do nothing about the problems of this phone. get informed and buy a different phone please.
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I love my tilt and I paid full price for it from ATT. There is nothing wrong with it. Its a phone not a laptop or server. It does what it was intended to do period.
muthaflaco said:
With my Tilt on T-Mobile I get all my services fine. I even use the 5.99 data plan for my internet on it. I reflashed to Dutty's 6.1, and when I hard reset, it asked me if I wanted to auto configure to T-Mobile's settings. Hit yes, viola, done.
Hey, all you haters out there: He probably already read the NUMEROUS threads about the driver issues. How could he miss them? Please let newbies make their own decisions on what devices they want to purchase. All he has to do is lurk, and he'll find more than enough information on the Tilt/Kaiser.
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So if I flash my tilt with dutty's 6.1 when i turn it on it will automatically ask me to configure T-mobiles settings for the data plan? The 5.99 data plan works with all the internet sites and programs. I've tried everything for it to work )=. Thanks in advance.
moddin said:
So if I flash my tilt with dutty's 6.1 when i turn it on it will automatically ask me to configure T-mobiles settings for the data plan? The 5.99 data plan works with all the internet sites and programs. I've tried everything for it to work )=. Thanks in advance.
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Yea, there are some roms that come with the settings configure app from HTC pre installed, if not just look in the cab data base down load it, then pop out then re pop your sim in turn it on and it will do it.
moddin said:
So if I flash my tilt with dutty's 6.1 when i turn it on it will automatically ask me to configure T-mobiles settings for the data plan? The 5.99 data plan works with all the internet sites and programs. I've tried everything for it to work )=. Thanks in advance.
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Yes, and no. When you have 6.1 on it, the first thing it asks is if you want to configure to T-Mobile's network. If you have the Data Plan, it will configure for it. It will be just the Data though. You still have to manually input the proxies to get the full internet. The settings are here, on post #4:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357197&highlight=tilt+tmobile+internet
Everything is great so far about the Tilt, i only have 2 problems, I can either search the internet using the Tmobile Data setting, or i can get MMS messages using the T-Mobile MMS setting, however i cannot get both to work at the same time. If anyone has figured this out please let me know how you did it.
The other problem is just the short battery life i seem to be getting.
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Everything is great so far about the Tilt, i only have 2 problems, I can either search the internet using the Tmobile Data setting, or i can get MMS messages using the T-Mobile MMS setting, however i cannot get both to work at the same time. If anyone has figured this out please let me know how you did it.
The other problem is just the short battery life i seem to be getting.
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Call T-Mobile and ask for a OTA settings transfer. They are very lenient with unlocked phones. Just say its a WM6 Pda phone and they will send you the settings.
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Yes, and no. When you have 6.1 on it, the first thing it asks is if you want to configure to T-Mobile's network. If you have the Data Plan, it will configure for it. It will be just the Data though. You still have to manually input the proxies to get the full internet. The settings are here, on post #4:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357197&highlight=tilt+tmobile+internet
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i bought my tilt the day it came out my friend unlocked it i input the info and my internet works fine
i jus cant send instant messages
nor send emails all of a sudden
Hello everyone,
Been away for a short while, but I'm noticing that not much is happening new with the Kaisers. The cooks are gone to other things, and therefore tech support is far and in-between by what I've been reading over several posts in each of the Kaiser forum sections. I was just logging in to try and get help with making my volume louder (for the in-call volume AND the speaker), but my cook has gone, and seemingly not much is happening with regards to the ROM's needs.
So, is everyone going to I-Phones, or FUZE devices, etc.?
I'm curious because I'm really aggitated with AT&T right now. I just realized when I bought my wife her Samsung Epix, that JUST for buying the phone, I'm REQUIRED to have a $30/month data plan for her. She doesn't cruise the net on her phone. But she DOES text (I have the family unlimited messaging plan). She needs a device with a storage card so she can text, use the MS Office Apps, etc.. NOT cruise the net.
So, I'm thinking about changing carriers, but don't know anyone else other than T-Mobile that will accept my SIM card. And SOME say that trying the T-Mobile SIM card in my Kaiser will render the GPS, messaging, data, etc... applications useless.
So, just tryin' to get a feel of what to do next.
everything will work just fine. you should swithc to tmobile. tmobile is much cheaper than att. i used my kaiser on tmobile for nearly a year with no problems if you bring your own phone they wont make you have a data plan but if you buy one of their tmobile branded phones they will make you activate with a dada plans. anyway if you have any questions just pm me
josefcrist said:
everything will work just fine. you should swithc to tmobile. tmobile is much cheaper than att. i used my kaiser on tmobile for nearly a year with no problems if you bring your own phone they wont make you have a data plan but if you buy one of their tmobile branded phones they will make you activate with a dada plans. anyway if you have any questions just pm me
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Thanks. I appreciate that.
josefcrist said:
everything will work just fine. you should swithc to tmobile. tmobile is much cheaper than att. i used my kaiser on tmobile for nearly a year with no problems if you bring your own phone they wont make you have a data plan but if you buy one of their tmobile branded phones they will make you activate with a dada plans. anyway if you have any questions just pm me
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Isn't the bands of the Tilt regards 3G different than AT&T? Thought the Tilt couldn't get 3G when using a T-Mobile sim?
Indeed the bands are different. You can't get 3G on T-Mobile with the Tilt. I use mine on Tmo everyday, with full GPS and everything. Tmo doesnt really have great 3G coverage anyways, so I don't really miss it all that much. But yeah, just use the combo SIM and CID unlocker, and slap that SIM into your Tilt and all is good to go.
Le Kaiser est morte, Vive Le Kaiser
Yeah...with the advent of more powerful phones in the HTC line (I recently went Rhodium/Tilt2), the Kaiser/Tilt is pretty much a dinosaur. I am still keeping the lovable brick for a backup. I've tried many roms...Thanks Dutty, Mr. NATF and TwoPumpChump for creating and releasing them, but unfortunately the Tilt's time for "Operation Upgrade" had come.
On the flip side though there are still folks cooking out there for Kaiser, ya just gotta know where to look and who to ask! Yeah, the unlocked Tilt will run with a T-mobile SIMM ( or any other network's SIMM), just not at the full potential that one would get on it's native network.
Good luck and good use!
Recently, AT&T started forcefeeding data plans to all smartphones, regardless of them being subsidized or not. I do not need a data plan, I am around wi-fi all the freaking time.
This is abusive. I called them a few times, and they don't let me have the 'smartphone exclusion' plan, whatever I try.
So, the solution I see is to change the phone's IMEI to that of an older phone.
I know that was possible on older HTC phones, but is it possible on N1?
If not, can someone make it possible?
I know for a fact that this is not illegal in US
The att issue has been discussed to death.
I've not seen any way to change your IMEI on android phones, heres one for winmo.
I simply switched to t-mobile.
Switching would be great if I wasn't on a family plan for $10/mo with a $170 ETF if I quit.
If you've already called, you might be screwed, but I would call and ask them what smartphone it shows you're using in their system. Most of the tiers of reps won't be able to see that it's actually an N1, so demand they remove it and if they don't, threaten to cancel. The "customer solutions" department will usually do anything they can to keep you as a customer if you make enough noise.
US Note users on AT&T - how are you dealing with the accusatory "tablet" text?
I ordered a Galaxy Note, will be here Monday. Quick background: I've been with AT&t since 2007 and have grandfathered unlimited data (from the original iPhone days). My current phone (was) the Galaxy Nexus until I sold it today to pay for the Note. I have used many imported (non-ATT) phones over the years - at least 15 - absolutely no issues.
Of course, I've been reading the threads about AT&T flagging the Note smartphone as a tablet (lol) and eventually shutting down data on these devices. I clearly don't want this to happen and take a serious issue with AT&T forcing their opinion that this smartphone is a tablet when it is absolutely not a tablet.
The poll covers several scenarios. Please vote and add comments to this thread so we can get an idea of how aggressive AT&T is with this smartphone. If there is a poll choice that needs to be changed/added, let me know.
Also, include how long have you used your Note on AT&T before getting a threatening text (or if you never got one, how is it set up? EFS wipe? APN settings, etc).
I have no issue taking this issue to the highest at AT&T. I like to stir the pot and AT&T calling this phone a tablet is totally unacceptable.
Thanks.
I have been with ATT sense 1994 when they toke over Cingular who I was with.
I have the PDA unlimited plan.
I put my sim card in.
Set APNs
Received text about 30 days later. (called them and thought all was good)
They turn off my data 14 days after that.
They turn data back on the next day after 2 hours on the phone with them.
If you can edit the poll, it would be good to have an option for no dreaded SMS received yet.
I haven't received the SMS yet, despite how vocal I am against AT&T.
SMS date: none yet
Start date: 11/11 (36 days)
Plan: 2GB smartphone data
Mods: no /efs folder nor IMEI modifications
Location/market: Austin, TX
APN settings: the "phone" one for 4g smartphones
My vote would have to be "other", if that were a choice. I have never been with at&t for wireless, and when I took my Note in to get a sim card, they would not even set me up with a voice plan at all. I have just data on it now. The manager claims they were told in a managers' meeting not to activate the note as a phone. They don't/won't support it, according to him. (he as a total d**k, by the way)
Sorry guys, I can't edit the survey.
If you never received a text, list how long you have been using it without hearing from AT&T (1 day, 1 month, etc). It seems the texts arrive anywhere between instantly to over a month after use.
Also, if your situation doesn't apply to any of the choices (other) list your experience in the comments.
Thanks.
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My vote would have to be "other", if that were a choice. I have never been with at&t for wireless, and when I took my Note in to get a sim card, they would not even set me up with a voice plan at all. I have just data on it now. The manager claims they were told in a managers' meeting not to activate the note as a phone. They don't/won't support it, according to him. (he as a total d**k, by the way)
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Where are you located?
Why would managers be told not to activate a smartphone they plan on bringing to their own network in the first quarter of 2012?? This clearly goes against the GSM "open" standards and I'd be happy to get in touch with Ralph de la Vega about this local manager decision...
I've been on medianet for 7 years and I've never got the text. Currently 4 days of note usage with no issues here.
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Why would managers be told not to activate a smartphone they plan on bringing to their own network in the first quarter of 2012??
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Probably because they haven't crippled/screwed over the phone to work on their network yet. As with most carrier subsidized phones, they want to remove features, fill it with bloatware etc...
I've had 3 non branded phones, and they always work better than the bloated ones. My favorite complaint, back in the pre-smartphone day was the stupid button placement that would almost always guarantee you that you would easily hit the button to take you to the internet, incurring a data charge. Oh, I'm sure they didn't do that one on purpose LOL.
I've been using this phone since November 2. No text message from ATT. APN settings: name ATT, APN phone, MCC 310, MNC 410, APN type internet + mms and everything else not set. Works fine with edge, 3g and HSPA.
couldnt you just go down to an at&t store and have someone who works there check out your phone and call at&T themselves to confirm you do have a cell phone and not a tablet?
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couldnt you just go down to an at&t store and have someone who works there check out your phone and call at&T themselves to confirm you do have a cell phone and not a tablet?
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People have tried that. It may work sometimes, but some have said they go home and the next day they get the message again. It's a computer doing the flagging. Even if a manager overrides the system at the store, they can't change the system, so chances are it'll happen again.
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People have tried that. It may work sometimes, but some have said they go home and the next day they get the message again. It's a computer doing the flagging. Even if a manager overrides the system at the store, they can't change the system, so chances are it'll happen again.
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This is why I'm strongly considering renaming the EFS folder or spoofing the IMEI.
I'm not interested in going round and round with AT&T every few weeks fighting their automated computers with attempts to prove my device is not a tablet.
At this point, I don't care if it's allowed to do that. I paid a ton of cash for this smartphone and am an AT&T Premier customer with multiple lines. Not putting all of this in jeopardy because they just don't know what this device is.
With any luck, I will snag an Atrix IMEI, flash it to the device and be on my merry way.
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couldnt you just go down to an at&t store and have someone who works there check out your phone and call at&T themselves to confirm you do have a cell phone and not a tablet?
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All their systems are centralized and corporate makes the policies. Some rep at a b&m at&t store doesn't have the power to make any changes. They can just update your profile to reflect a new IMEI but if the system keeps flagging the phone as a tablet they can't change make any changes to prevent the system from recognizing your note and blocking you again.
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All their systems are centralized and corporate makes the policies. Some rep at a b&m at&t store doesn't have the power to make any changes. They can just update your profile to reflect a new IMEI but if the system keeps flagging the phone as a tablet they can't change make any changes to prevent the system from recognizing your note and blocking you again.
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That's why I'm prepared to fight AT&T at the corporate level to get them to change their system to recognize the IMEI as a smartphone.
I've already contacted Samsung UK outlining the issue and asking them to send the IMEI's to AT&T in the US.
I will be relentless in my quest!
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That's why I'm prepared to fight AT&T at the corporate level to get them to change their system to recognize the IMEI as a smartphone.
I've already contacted Samsung UK outlining the issue and asking them to send the IMEI's to AT&T in the US.
I will be relentless in my quest!
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Personally, I think the deathstar is doing this on purpose. They are "suppose" to have the Note next year (crippled, different processor to handle LTE, no home button, bloated etc...)...can't have an international version over shadowing their version can they? LOL.
lol, bloody american carriers.
There would be outrage if they tried that sh!t here.. You're paying for a data service... who are they to dictate what device you use that data on!
I'm willing to bet that this issue is less about the Note itself and more about trying to get people off of their grandfathered data. How many people on tiered plans have received the text? I bet none.
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This is why I'm strongly considering renaming the EFS folder or spoofing the IMEI.
I'm not interested in going round and round with AT&T every few weeks fighting their automated computers with attempts to prove my device is not a tablet.
At this point, I don't care if it's allowed to do that. I paid a ton of cash for this smartphone and am an AT&T Premier customer with multiple lines. Not putting all of this in jeopardy because they just don't know what this device is.
With any luck, I will snag an Atrix IMEI, flash it to the device and be on my merry way.
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And how exactly will you do this? I wasn't aware such a thing was even possible...
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I'm willing to bet that this issue is less about the Note itself and more about trying to get people off of their grandfathered data. How many people on tiered plans have received the text? I bet none.
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What bearing, exactly, does this have on anything? As long as I don't tether (which I never do or plan on doing) that suddenly doesn't give AT&T the right to single out unlimited users while ignoring others.
Again, I'm sure the FCC would be interested to learn of this discrimination.
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What bearing, exactly, does this have on anything? As long as I don't tether (which I never do or plan on doing) that suddenly doesn't give AT&T the right to single out unlimited users while ignoring others.
Again, I'm sure the FCC would be interested to learn of this discrimination.
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It has a lot of bearing actually. Think about it. AT&T stopped offering unlimited data a year and a half ago now, and since then it has done as much as it can to try to get people off of those plans (like convincing the uneducated consumer that they need "new" tiered plans for their smartphone when they decide to upgrade etc).
I ran into this exact same problem early on this year with my original Galaxy Tab, and after much (fruitless) deliberation with a rep from the CEO's office, the argument basically came down to this:
AT&T: You're using a device on our network in ways we did not intend for it to be used. Cease and Desist!
Me: How exactly am I using my device on your network in ways which you didn't intend? As far as the hardware is concerned, my Galaxy Tab is basically identical to a smartphone with the exception of screen and battery size. I love using my Tab this way! It literally is my "do-everything-all-in-one" device! Tablet, phone, GPS, media player, e-reader, etc.
AT&T: That's just it. Your "do-everything-all-in-one" device is bad for business. We don't want you to be able to do "everything-all-in-one." We want you to buy a smartphone, and a subscription for that -AND- we want you to buy a separate piece of hardware for your tablet and pay a subscription for that too (or at least pay additional for the ability to tether to your smartphone). See, as you pointed out, the bigger screen allows you to do much more with that device than a "normal" smartphone, in much the same way as you can do more on a laptop. Basically, bigger screen generally equals more data usage and thus more strain on our network.
Me: OK. So what? I'm on unlimited data.
AT&T: Exactly. So we're not getting any more money out of you, where we would ordinarily be collecting overages from everyone else on tiered plans. So here are your options: 1. Stop using voice on your line, and use this as a data-only device. 2. Stop using data on your line, and use this as a voice-only device. 3. Use both data and voice, but only if you forgo your unlimited data and go onto a tiered plan instead, and pay for tethering. 4. Go somewhere else.
Me: Screw you AT&T! *deletes /efs folder and continues to use Tab as originally intended by Samsung. AT&T no longer see's Tab IMEI and see's "fake/generic" IMEI instead*
I've been with them for a while. I have the grandfathered plan but I have 5 lines and maybe that's why I never received a text from them. I tether as well.
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