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Tilt Goes Silent - I think bluetooth related

Hi everyone. I have had my Tilt for 4months now and it has given me a lot of joy. I have flashed and reflashed with no problems at all. I am currently using Schap's 4.31 Rom with 1.27.12.11 radio.
About a month ago i installed a new car stereo that has bluetooth connectivity with my phone - worked like a charm, paired very easily and generally appeared to be working with no probs.
Then i noticed that if i was in a bluetooth conversation and somebody else was calling (on call waiting), if i switched calls i could not hear anything, and if i ignored the second call, when the person on call waiting hang up, both conversations were terminated. I thought it was odd, but i just deactivated call waiting and thought, "let them try calling me later".
The other, a lot more serious problem, is that sometimes, randomly as far as i realised, the phone will go totally silent - incoming calls won't ring, and when i try to make a call, when i press "talk" then phone does not make that beep that it makes when an outgoing call is initiated. Should the person i call pick up i cannot hear them at all.
A soft reset takes care of this problem, but it has happened to me 3 times already, and i think it was after a bluetooth call.
Has anybody faced this problem before? I need to be available on the phone 24/7 due to my work and i really need to find a solution for this. Yesterday afternoon i took a nap for 45 minutes and had six missed calls that i never heard cause the phone never rang.
The phone is always on "ring" and at full volume.
Any ideas would be welcome.
Thanks
Alkis

Same issue
I'm assuming since I also am facing this same problem that it is not uncommon. It seems to me that it happens after a bluetooth device is turned off. Somehow it sets the volume on everything to mute. I thought only a soft reset would fix it until I discovered that it was just shutting off the volume. Still annoying, though.

Tilt problems with phone going silent
This problem has occurred with my phone every since upgrading to the WM 6.1 and it is related to a bluetooth device being hooked up. Often when someone calls the ringer will go from vibrate to on, but the volume turns all the way off. It will then cycle to off completely. The cycling occurs when a call comes in or when I hang up. I can stop this problem from happening by disconnecting the bluetooth head set. I have tried three different headsets and the problem occurs with all of them (Jawbone I, Jawbone II, and Plantronics) so I know it is not the brand of headset. HTC said to try a download of a screen dimmer problem, but have not done that yet. Anyone have any better advice?

did u guys ever find a solution to this?
its quite annoying missing calls because my phone decides to go silent for some reason

Same issue with GPS
I have the same issue, even when using software that accesses the GPS via bluetooth port. Muting is irritating, but at least voicemail catches messages. What really bothers me is that sometimes the mute is turned off and the volume up, especially when in a private meeting where we do not want interruptions
Gregg

HTC Tytn II bluetooth causes silent setting
I too have had the issue where my phone will go into total silent mode after using my bluetooth stereo hands-free feature. It doen't happen after using my bluetooth headset though.
It happens pretty regular that after using the bluetooth hands-free of my JVC car stereo that when I take the phone elsewhere it is totally silent. no ringer, no alarm (Ptravel alarm is what I use), no audio if I make a call (or receive a call).
It also will cause the phone to be silent on subsequent calls on the bluetooth stereo hands-free: ie: I take a call, hang up and another call will come in and I can answer it but have no audio.
My Tytn II is running the HTC (AT&T) WM 6.1 upgrade. The only thing I have done is use the Advanced configuration manager and the Kaiser tweak to change a few settings for performance and visual enhancements.
I see others are having the same problems.....Has anyone else used the tweaks and maybe that is root of the problem?
Has anyone discovered a fix (really important). My only options are to soft reset every time I get out of the car or not use the JVC bluetooth capability (which is why I replaced the stock radio in the first place).
Thanks

Hi rrackman,
I'd advice for you to look at the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=438457
It's quite long, so better subscribe to it and wait for responses. Several people with Tilt's have the same problem. Myself I have a JVC NX-7000 and an unbranded Kaiser (HTC TyTN II). It works fine with WM6.0, but I have the same issues you mention with WM6.1. First advice while we're searching for the solution: downgrade to WM6.0...
Regards,
Nika.

Is there a solution to this problem?

Try WM6.0 ROM - check out the thread I mention in my sig.
Regards,
Nika.

I did indeed take a look at the thread you linked earlier. Sorry for making the quick post earlier, I should have mentioned that this is regarding the "unexplained volume drop to zero" symptom, not the NSI symptom. Fortunately I don't have the NSI problem, just the drop to zero problem.
Of course downgrading to 6.0 would be the key solution, was just hoping to find a way to avoid doing just that. My phone never had the problem prior to 6.1 and was running the exact same list of applications and settings.

More BT + Voice Command issues

OK, I've read a bunch of these threads but I'd Like to get everyone who is knowlegeable about this together because I though I was doing everything right.
First off I am using Dutty's newest ROM that is supposed to have all the voice command mods "out of the box"
Second I have a sony ericsson HBH-DS980, shameless promo I know but, this is an awsome headset I love it and would recommend it to anyone (all I need is this problem fixed)
OK, for the most part everything was working fine at first. I paired everything and started using voice command with all my music, and random system info (battery level, date and time etc....) but then I wanted to start calling people from it and it seemed to work just fine. I'd say who I wanted to call it would ask for confermation then it would start to dial...then the wierd steps in. my headset then looses stereo connection (usually I would have it in stereo mode) so I'm looking at the handset (it takes a couple seconds to "catch up") and it says everything is fine untill the call gets picked up then it drops the ericsson completely it no longer has it as a stereo bt or even a hands-free mic. And to top things off the call just stops so I can't fix anything.
Another thing I've noticed is after something like this or even looking up a contact via voice for some reason wm and my bt don't like to "play nice" I constantly get disconnects and after a while Voice command stops hearing me through my mic (I know it's not the mic since if I reboot and repeat it works just fine) but it will work if I use it from the handset.
I don't reeally know what's going on but I do run S2U2 very often and I was just on another thread that was saying his problem was S2U2 and I want to know if anyone else has found that was the issue. Hell I'd just be happy to know I'm not alone. If anyone would like to offer help that would be great too.

OK, here is version 2 of the explination:
OK I paired my BT (I did this twice as a stereo bt and a regular handsfree) and made a call via voice command (it hears me fine and dials) after a couple seconds my BT gives the disconnect sound. After that the call ends. Not only that but my phone bars go to 0 for a split second and I get a message saying that my phone couldn't connect to my wireless internet. (most likely due to the "0 bar" issue)
After this whole thing I attempt to call (or do anything) via Voice command and it won't understand a word I say through the mic. Even rebooting doesn't solve this issue. I have to remove the bt from my list and re-pair it.
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it looks like when VC errors it takes my entire phone with it. Has anyone else had this issue. and BTW it doesn't seem to be related to S2U2 like I though in my last post since it was disabled

Are you talking about MS Voice Command or Cyberon Voice dialer??

Can you try with another BT? Just to verify that's not the bluetooth issue.
I have a similar issue with my Jawbone BT and the problem is with my BT . I have a logitech BT and it doesn't give me any problem.

Are u using s2u2 v0.99 or v1.0?
If you want (BT handfree + s2u2 + voice commander) all three together, you may need to give up the new version and install back the v0.98.
It works for me on my Elf powered by Cloudyfa's shadoW 2.1 TE
Hope it helps.
Cheers
xcom923 said:
OK, I've read a bunch of these threads but I'd Like to get everyone who is knowlegeable about this together because I though I was doing everything right.
First off I am using Dutty's newest ROM that is supposed to have all the voice command mods "out of the box"
Second I have a sony ericsson HBH-DS980, shameless promo I know but, this is an awsome headset I love it and would recommend it to anyone (all I need is this problem fixed)
OK, for the most part everything was working fine at first. I paired everything and started using voice command with all my music, and random system info (battery level, date and time etc....) but then I wanted to start calling people from it and it seemed to work just fine. I'd say who I wanted to call it would ask for confermation then it would start to dial...then the wierd steps in. my headset then looses stereo connection (usually I would have it in stereo mode) so I'm looking at the handset (it takes a couple seconds to "catch up") and it says everything is fine untill the call gets picked up then it drops the ericsson completely it no longer has it as a stereo bt or even a hands-free mic. And to top things off the call just stops so I can't fix anything.
Another thing I've noticed is after something like this or even looking up a contact via voice for some reason wm and my bt don't like to "play nice" I constantly get disconnects and after a while Voice command stops hearing me through my mic (I know it's not the mic since if I reboot and repeat it works just fine) but it will work if I use it from the handset.
I don't reeally know what's going on but I do run S2U2 very often and I was just on another thread that was saying his problem was S2U2 and I want to know if anyone else has found that was the issue. Hell I'd just be happy to know I'm not alone. If anyone would like to offer help that would be great too.
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Vibration alert doesn't stop and audio breaks after a2dp.

Just as the title states... ie: I get an sms or email alert and the vibe just keeps on going until I goto volume silence then I can reactivate the volume.
I use ring and vibrate together for all alerts.
Anyone else have feed back with this or a similar problem?
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So I have done some testing and would like if someone else who uses a bluetooth headset to listen to music could try using BT a few times turning it off and on (when on use the htc media player) and see if after receiving a text message or email if your audio fires properly and your vibe stops. I have not used the BT all day today and the vibe/ring has performed perfectly. Basically after using BT a soft reset is in order.

What apps are you using?
Are you using any of the phone profile software such as SPB Phone Suite, Phone Weaver, Phone Alarm or the like? I had this issue occur when using Phone Suite and it was resolved when i de-installed the software.

I had same problem. I got mail and the vibration didn't stop. I don't use any profile manager. But I had same problem with Cruise with Wm6.1.

No profile managers at all. I have had this happen once before with an asus p527.
I have since done a hard reset on my diamond, we'll see how it goes. I did the reset because initially I've done alot of playing around testing apps and hacks to see what works best, I have re installed the apps I know work and have done. very little tweaking... Fingers crossed.

@thebiker
Do you use Bluetooth Audio for music or voice calls?
I think I have narrowed the problem down to this for myself.
I use my jabra 320 to listen to music on my way to work, after disconnecting the problems begin, vibrate doesn't want to stop and the ring doesn't want to work. A quick soft reset and everything appears to be good until I use my BT Headset again. Are you able to see a similar trend as I am? As I mentioned already I had this issue with my Asus so maybe there is a problem in general with Microsoft's BT Stack when using it with a2dp and in general derails audio on the system. My thinking is the audio is actually what is stopping on me so the Vib doesn't have the audio to tell it when to stop.
Thoughts on this matter anyone?

Bump... added some info to the first post and modified topic slightly, to more acurately describe my newer findings.
If someone using BT can try what is in the first post... thank you.

I have the Jabra BT620s headset and have the same problem. I can listen music and when a call comes in I can answer it and people hear me.
When I disconnect the headset i don't get any sound. Need to do a soft reset to get sound back on my phone. So no rings or sounds untill a soft reset is performed.
Stupid bluetooth... Anyone with a fix?

I can't find anyway other then soft reset. If you look at the volume after disconnecting a headset it sets the volume to 0.
I also have this issue on a tilt running winmo 6.1 and Microsoft BT Stack. So I believe it is a MS Operating/BT Stack issue.

What rom are u guys using? i'll try to have a look and experiment with the 1.37 rom

Shipped ROM: 1.34.831.1 WWE
Date: 5/25/08
WM6.1 CE OS 5.2.19588 (Build 19588.1.1.4)
Radio: 0.93.25.NS16
Protocol version: 52.24.25.08H

any news on this ?

I encounter this problem when receiving voice calls. No sound and neverending vibrate. Also, on several occasions the sound disappeared during the conversation. Only a soft reset could bring it back. The volume showed just good values, so it wasn't a spontanious mute.
I don't use a BT headset, never did. In fact BT isn't enabled at all. I did change the ringtype to ring and vibrate, perhaps thats the trigger. I changed back to default ringtone setting, lets see what happens.
I hope this will be solved quickly, it makes my Diamond a bit unusable as a phone...

rondol1 said:
I encounter this problem when receiving voice calls. No sound and neverending vibrate. Also, on several occasions the sound disappeared during the conversation. Only a soft reset could bring it back. The volume showed just good values, so it wasn't a spontanious mute.
I don't use a BT headset, never did. In fact BT isn't enabled at all. I did change the ringtype to ring and vibrate, perhaps thats the trigger. I changed back to default ringtone setting, lets see what happens.
I hope this will be solved quickly, it makes my Diamond a bit unusable as a phone...
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Interesting results... I can so far state that so long as I reset after using BT Headset I don't experience this problem. There maybe more pointing to a bad audio driver in general that BT causes to crash immediately and potentially regular use like you have may also cause it to go loopy, might be a specific app and the way it interfaces with the audio api.

citats said:
Interesting results... I can so far state that so long as I reset after using BT Headset I don't experience this problem. There maybe more pointing to a bad audio driver in general that BT causes to crash immediately and potentially regular use like you have may also cause it to go loopy, might be a specific app and the way it interfaces with the audio api.
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The only app I installed afterward is TomTom Nav6. But I remember the problem happend before installing this app as well. I made several hard resets but no change. Perhaps I try once more, don't change any setting and keep it clean for some days.

The same problem here with ROM ITA.

rondol1 said:
The only app I installed afterward is TomTom Nav6. But I remember the problem happend before installing this app as well. I made several hard resets but no change. Perhaps I try once more, don't change any setting and keep it clean for some days.
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let us now what the result is..... maybe it is tomtom ?

xivius said:
let us now what the result is..... maybe it is tomtom ?
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Nop - got the problem before installing any additional software.
I confirm that I also have the problem after using my BT stereo headset.
SR solves the problem ... until I use my BT headset again

UPDATE: UNRESOLVED on 1.37 stock rom, but i can hear people's voices on the line, but doesnt wake up on sms and no alert, and no call ring tone after using A2DP for 5 mins and switching off Bluetooth, using HTC Player in Touch FLo 3D

Baronic said:
UPDATE: UNRESOLVED on 1.37 stock rom, but i can hear people's voices on the line, but doesnt wake up on sms and no alert, and no call ring tone after using A2DP for 5 mins and switching off Bluetooth, using HTC Player in Touch FLo 3D
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So you have no ringtone anymore ? And after a soft reset ?

no ringtone no sms tone, soft reset, press volume key, resolves it.

X1 wired headset receive calls problem

Hi!
I have one black X1i SW ver R3AA010, GENERIC_UK rom.
Great phone, but i have problem with the wired factory headset.
If i have call, phone playing ringtone, and i want receive this call, but no effect. Another problem is mic is on the phone enabled, not on the headset - in ear-phone mode.
On another forums reported same problem.
I see now only one solution:
1.,Unplug Headset from phone
2.,Incoming call, after hearing rintone - plug in the headset
3.,Problem is fixed..., but only to next soft reset or next unplug
Is there any registry mod or cab fix to this?
example : manual headset mode on/off
pls help me, thank you

As you mention, the problem has been scarcely discussed in other threads (and forums), but no one's seemed to find a solution. I'm not even aware if the headset problem is a general flaw in X1, or we're just a few unfortunates.
I won my X1 in a competition so I don't think I'm really in a position to be pissed off, but this defect is indeed a MAJOR drawback, and it surprises me it hasn't been criticised more loudly in e.g. reviews and forums.
The problem smells to me like a firmware issue (though I really don't have a clue), i.e. something that our friends at Sony Ericsson (are you out there, guys?) should be able to fix in an update, but they don't.. :-(
Anyway, my workaround is to make sure the headset is 'armed' in advance whenever I want to be prepared for an incoming or outgoing call. E.g. before I hop on my bicycle, I 'simply' make a short call to whatever number, e.g. to my voicemail, and as soon as there's a connection I plug in my headset and hang up. Now the headset works - I test it by pressing the headset button twice, which should initiate redialling the last number used.
In any case, it shouldn't be necessary to make such arrangements! My previous mobile was a crap, crap Nokia - but I miss it because its headset worked like a charm.
In fact, just out of curiosity - if anyone reading this has an X1 without any headset problems (i.e. mic and button not being responsive), please speak up. Maybe we can then isolate the problem.

[Q] Bluetooth headset-initiated voice dial?

I searched and found only old information from last year on this...
Does anyone have bluetooth headset-initiated voice command dialing working with their Captivates?
If so, please tell me exactly how you are accomplishing this -- what bluetooth headset, what ROM, what apps, your procedure for initiating a call from your bluetooth headset.
I'm not interested in any procedure that involves looking at or even touching the phone itself. I need a solution that will let me place a call to the contact of my choice solely from my bluetooth headset -- just push the button on the headset, tell it who to call and reliably make the call to the contact and phone type (mobile, home, etc.) that I tell it.
I am currently using the new Andromeda ROM but would be very interested in hearing what new ROMs do this well.
Thanks!

I am running Paragon ROM and I am able to make calls through my car stereo via Bluetooth voice dialing. Leave the phone in my pocket, hold a button down on my stereo until the voice asks for a command, I then say "Call Contact". If they have more than one number it asks if I want to call them at home work or mobile. I say "Mobile". The voice then repeats "Call Contact mobile"
I am running Paragon RC5.1, but Bluetooth voice dialing has worked for me since I first flashed with RC3.