Hi Folks
I wonder if anyone knows how to do this? I've had a good look around, but cant find how to do it.
I've recently had my TYTN II replaced by Orange, my second one was delivered with a different ROM and radio to my first-its actually pretty good, i might not flash it for a bit!
The one thing its missing though is the threaded SMS which is in many (all?) of the WM6.1 ROMS (when they're grouped by contact/conversation).
Does anyone know if this can be added somehow?
one more quick one:
Ive installed the latest version of Opera Mobile-its an awesome browser. i cant seem to set it as my TYTN II's default browser though-anyone know how I could do this too please?
Thanks a lot in advance,
'tunes
Yes, it's possible. There are many progams that do this like Vito.
Thanks, but does anyone know if there's a way to update the messaging app to match whats in the 6.1 ROMs, rather than replacing it?
I used the threaded sms messaging from the palm systems. worked good.
Windows Mobile 6.0 does not natively support threaded SMS. Unless you are willing to upgrade to 6.1, you will need to install a 3rd party app like those already listed.
Thanks a lot folks.
Any thoughts on setting Opera mobile as my default browser?
I'm sure there's just gonna be a reg key that'll need changing, but I cant track it down.
can anyone help me with the getting the cab for the stock aim messaging app in the fuze? i changed my rom to romeos and it doesn't have the stock messaging app..
check Da_G's rom thread or maybe NATF's. They have most of the original stuff cabbed
thx i tried looking for it and i still can't find it, if worst comes to worse maybe i can extract the cab from the stock rom.. but i can't even find the information to extract files from the rom.
Its called Oz Messenger try searching for that. I believe the program is normally sold, so I'm unsure if we can post it here. I have the cab file saved if needed. I also believe you can download it for free on MEdia Net.
I read that it uses SMS to send data, but I'm unsure if this is true. When I sign in my MEdia Net connection launches. Does anyone know for sure?
OZ Instant Messaging AKA in FUZE as PPC5.0 HTC Coke ATT.cab
Hi everyone,after looking for the messaging cab after clearing out the bloatware i wasn't able to find the file on the Fuze. I didn't want to download an old cab as this has a nice GUI on it that goes with rest. In the Fuze the name of the file is PPC5.0 HTC COKE ATT.cab. (aka Oz messaging). Navigating using your file explorer you will find it with a date of 01/15/09...632k. Hope this helps anyone looking for it. I don't know how to upload a cab on a site yet but as soon as I figure it out I'll post.
I tryed the OZ on 6.5 fuze rom EnergyROM Series 2.0 and you get txt msgs with errors.
Is there a way to put the stock yahoo in?
Hi,
I am a pretty basic user and way back when there was a change to Manilla that i really didn't like, and all newer versions seem to have this one annoying feature that almost kills all newer ROMS for me. It's in the messaging, specifically SMS, where (i believe) if u enter a message thread by clicking the message, there's a centered text box now and the soft keys have changed. Where "send" used to be, now there is "back." I can't tell you how many mssgs i've lost because i accidentilly hit the back button.
I think this happened from one version of Manilla to the next? If so can anyone tell me which version incorporated the change so i can look for the older versions, or if there is a fix out there to get back to simple threaded sms
TIA!
Thing you are describing is feature of manila 2.0 and higher. There is simply solution thanks to user CMYLXGO. Try google for "cmylxgo rhodium sms app disable". Install the cab and next time you tap the message you get the well known windows SMS application
oh awesome! thanks....maybe now i can get into 6.5
I keep going back and forth between the two on my Imagio, but I think once we get TF3D 2.5 I'll be able to stick with HTC's software. Question is: Will the Imagio handle it well?
BTW thanks for the resource here!
me too, I have been going back in forth between the current touchflo version on the Imagio and SPB Mobile Shell.
Has anyone come up with a tweak yet for touch flo 3d 2.5 for the Imagio.
SPB MS 3.5 for me
I have been playing with TouchFlo since the first version on the HTC Touch and it is just too much work. I downloaded MS3.5 and I couldn't be happier. It takes up fewer resources and the customization is as easy as dragging and dropping. I use the leisure theme with a five panel widget home screen. You can add picture frames as widgets among other cool items. The contact management is integrated with Facebook automatically and the smart dial is awesome. If I decide I want to do custom icons later, I can get as deep into the xml component as I want.
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I have been playing with TouchFlo since the first version on the HTC Touch and it is just too much work. I downloaded MS3.5 and I couldn't be happier. It takes up fewer resources and the customization is as easy as dragging and dropping. I use the leisure theme with a five panel widget home screen. You can add picture frames as widgets among other cool items. The contact management is integrated with Facebook automatically and the smart dial is awesome. If I decide I want to do custom icons later, I can get as deep into the xml component as I want.
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See, now, I get the whole "pretty" thing with this shell, but I found it to be just too confusing because it has a lot of redundancies. On the other hand, TouchFlo by HTC is really powerful, but it needs more "clues" to find all of its functionality. Idunno..I just wish we could get this thing hspl unlocked so that the gurus can start cooking up some new roms..
TF3D does not work for me. I need to quickly check email and delete tehm on the fly and access many parts of the phone. Why cant we load the new Sense UIon the Imagio. MS 3.5 is great but the contacts and dialer are badly broken. I cant search for contacts easily by typing parts of the name (only searches file as field) and from the dialer screen you cannot get into the details of a contact to E.G. select an alternate number to dial.
I have been trying both on my new imagio, and am currently sticking with SPBMS3.5. The main reason is that for some reason, the text messaging interface with TF3D messes up my ability to rotate to landscape when replying to a message. I am not sure why...
I have hard reset, and it works for a short period of time, because it seems to be using the standard Winmo texting interface. After receiving a message from a contact, the interface seems to switch to a custom TF3D version, and I can no longer use the landscape keyboard.
Plus I like that I can have virtually all the things I need on a sweetly configured main screen at one tap.
My two cents...
Gary
The folks over at PPCGeeks have unlocked the Imagio! And there are a number of ROMs already ready for flashing. As for TF3D and Mobile Shell, I have found no issues with TF, and with the new Cookies home tabs, its even easier for me. I tried that mobile shell, and there were too many reduntant applications, and by the time I got what I wanted set up, it was several pages between what I really needed and what I needed to go through. That, and after a couple days, my phone started to really get buggy. I finally gave up and went back to TF.
Now, that was before flashing to an Energy ROM. Things are much better now! Check out PPCGeeks HTC Imagio section, several ROMS there waiting for you!
You know I just saw those this weekend and they look very promising! Especially the MaxManilla on the horizon. I am not sure whether to go with Manilla or Cookies...Any thoughts?
As for the TF3D and texting, I did some googling and found the fix. Sorry, but I can't remember, but I think it was on PPCGeeks. Had to add some manilla reg values and change one other and voila! It works now. Still not sure if I like TF3D better than SPB, but I am giving it a shot. What I do like is that SPB can have multiple weather cities. I don't think that I like the 3D mail reader on either app.
Thanks again for the tips.
Gary
in my opinion , the one and only one downside of whole manila 2.5 is its messaging app..i dont understand why its so buggy..i have seen htc messaging in manila 2.1 quite good and effective..no reason why htc has changed a stable messaging version to a buggy one...
hey guys any fix would be sooo welcome....
you do know that significant fixes/improvements will have to come from HTC and not the cooks. also, keep in mind that manila 2.5 has been designed to work with the HD2's faster processor and not the slower HD processor.
i'll venture further saying that the chefs DO NOT HAVE THE SOURCE CODE to manila or windows mobile for what it matters. they can do some tweaking some conf changes etc but cannot rewrite the software
Buy a Leo and everything will work fine. It was never designed for Blackstone. It's not slow...our devices are slow!!!
windows mobile is slow....the hardware is fast enough for a bunch of things. dont take me wrong here i like winmobo but the "genious" in microsoft dont care much about user experience...hope win7 fix some of our issues.
cortez.i said:
you do know that significant fixes/improvements will have to come from HTC and not the cooks. also, keep in mind that manila 2.5 has been designed to work with the HD2's faster processor and not the slower HD processor.
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I second this, Look at the newer releases and you will notice changes to the stability of the messaging app. Yes it still a bit slow, have you seen the iPhone load a decent conversation history? Slow messaging app when theres more than 100 sms, thats why they needed the 3GS. A little lag isn't too bad considering the Leo's specs.
HTC Messaging looks cool but is useless when you use programs that send SMS with it. It simply will not work. The program needs to be updated to HTC standard. But isn't HTC ought to folllow WM standard? By creating imncompatiblity of not using Standrd, HTC will create a floodgate of problems in the years to come.
honestly, if they could use Manilla 2.5 with the Manila 2.1 messaging, it would be fine
i love everything about 2.5..it's just the messaging. unfortunately...that's a big problem with no fix =[. for now, WinMo messaging is fine =]
love the new calendar, the new buttons, etc..much more friendly
gbjack said:
HTC Messaging looks cool but is useless when you use programs that send SMS with it. It simply will not work. The program needs to be updated to HTC standard. But isn't HTC ought to folllow WM standard? By creating imncompatiblity of not using Standrd, HTC will create a floodgate of problems in the years to come.
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Yes, It has already broken many anti-theft software like Remote Tracker and Sprite Terminator which intercept incoming SMS.
They work fine on M2.1's HTC messaging, but not with M2.5.
cortez.i said:
you do know that significant fixes/improvements will have to come from HTC and not the cooks. also, keep in mind that manila 2.5 has been designed to work with the HD2's faster processor and not the slower HD processor.
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I hope that this remark is very old, because you need to read the LEO forum. The problem is also on a new LEO device! Disabling HTC messaging gives you the old M$ outlook back, but it removes functionality in contacts, clicking on "send message" doesn't take you to SMS! I hope somebody can make a solution for this.
theres one thing I dont understand
When you click in manila at "All messages" in TF3D2.5, then we come in the new HTC styled SMS overview.
I don't understand why the kinetic scrolling of this SMS overview is such unfunktional:
When you slide fast with your finger, it scrolls fast, smooth and normal.
But when you slide slow, it scrolls very strange...
Its very smooth and all, but its very strange... so slow...
But not slow in case of too weak hardware. Like issue in kinetic scrolling software.
I think the only problem of TF3D 2.5 is, that we need a file out of a Leo dump that we don't have.
Because the effects alone are not such special that we need Leo hardware.
Which API does TF3D 2.5 use? OpenGL, .NET?
pim.vol file caching experiment for performance improvement
guys, correct me if I'm wrong here.
the SMS Messages are stored in pim.vol file (not exactly sure what's the corresponding MMS Messages file) located at the root directory. It is excluded from being cached by fsreplxfilt.dll (File Replication for Persistent Storage) StorageManager filter.
What if pim.vol is being cached, will it improve HTC Messaging performance?
This modification however, must be cooked into XIP (with modified boot.rgu / boot.hv) for full effect, even though the registry is here:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Filters\fsreplxfilt]
"NumDirsToExclude"=dword:d
"DirsToExclude"=multi_sz: "\\mxip_initdb.vol",
"\\mxip_system.vol",
"\\mxip_notify.vol",
"\\mxip_lang.vol",
"\\cemail.vol",
[B]"\\pim.vol",[/B]
"\\Documents and Settings\\",
"\\Program Files\\",
"\\Windows\\",
"\\Application Data\\",
"\\ConnMgr\\",
"\\mxip_swmgmt.vol",
"\\Temp\\"
Have anyone / any chef willing to try to cook a ROM and Not Exclude pim.vol to be cached and see if that improves the performance? Although there might be side effect such as loss of data, but it may help to improve HTC Messaging performance?
eddyve said:
I hope that this remark is very old, because you need to read the LEO forum. The problem is also on a new LEO device! Disabling HTC messaging gives you the old M$ outlook back, but it removes functionality in contacts, clicking on "send message" doesn't take you to SMS! I hope somebody can make a solution for this.
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doesn't matter if my comment is old/new. i still believe fixes/enhancements will still have to come from HTC. it's unfortunate that HD2 owners are suffering the same poor performance. it's my hope that performance will be improved by the time the HD2 makes it to the USA. (ok, so i'm dreaming, lol).
ANDYx1975 said:
Buy a Leo and everything will work fine. It was never designed for Blackstone. It's not slow...our devices are slow!!!
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B.S. Mobile outlook works really fast with the same set of SMS, on which HTC Messaging is just dying. So it is not about device power but about bad programming.
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B.S. Mobile outlook works really fast with the same set of SMS, on which HTC Messaging is just dying. So it is not about device power but about bad programming.
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you'll notice that the WM outlook is only loading about 5-10 messages before you have to click "older" or "newer" instead of loading all the messages like how Sense 2.5 is trying to do. I believe that the windows way of doing it is better, but once again, that's something that HTC has to do.
ANDYx1975 said:
Buy a Leo and everything will work fine. It was never designed for Blackstone. It's not slow...our devices are slow!!!
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I suggest that you read the Leo forum and you will see that these users are also complaining about the slow speed of HTC Messaging. It is not about the hardware, it is about the software!
skulk3r said:
you'll notice that the WM outlook is only loading about 5-10 messages before you have to click "older" or "newer" instead of loading all the messages like how Sense 2.5 is trying to do. I believe that the windows way of doing it is better, but once again, that's something that HTC has to do.
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I agree with the above, if I keep my stored message below a 20-30 limit on the device for each contact I have absolutely no problem with the messaging speed, it's as quick as I need it to be.
All my messages are synced to MS MyPhone, so if I need anything i've previously deleted from the device, I can login and go to the archive section and find it or search for it if I don't remember when it was.
I don't see the need for people to store 100's of messages on there device now, when the MyPhone service works perfectly. (i get that people don't have a data connection etc, but if you've forked out for this phone then why not!).
The device does become unbearable if you have more than a few hundred messages, I restored 2000 messages to the device and it became sluggish, this is clearly visible by the scroll bar on the right (when you load a contacts conversation). If you watch the scroll bar, it will get smaller and smaller the more messages it loads, during the loading process with hundreds of messages it is virtually impossible to use the device as it stutters and jumps around until it finishes loading the messages, which it does everytime you load that contact, regardless of if you've been into them before or not. Therefore by keeping your active messages on your device to a minimum you have a speedy and lovely interface to use.
I'm currently using the Energy 28004 rom, but i've been using the above method since Miri first started with the Touch Friendly branch of WinMo and MS released MyPhone and it's worked perfectly.
skulk3r said:
you'll notice that the WM outlook is only loading about 5-10 messages before you have to click "older" or "newer" instead of loading all the messages like how Sense 2.5 is trying to do. I believe that the windows way of doing it is better, but once again, that's something that HTC has to do.
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Yes. It is exactly what I meant.
More, I'm not talking about browsing single SMS thread. I usually communicate via SMS with about 20 people. HTC messaging dies when browsing this list - the list contains only a few people list and the last message for each of them. I really cannot understand what makes it too hard to show.
Unfortunately thats not been my experience although everyone is different or we wouldn't be here . The first screen which lists your messages is fairly quick to load once i've loaded it once. I do add it to exclusive so it doesn't close though, so it only loads once at the start. If i kill the task and start it up again it does go slow, but other than that it does appear to be fine.
I currently have 10 threads each with about 100 messages in total and i've just tested and it takes about 2 seconds to populate from first load (messaging ended via task manager) and then it's less than a second each time i load it up after that.
Are you storing your contact pictures on a storage card? (shouldn't really affect the speed as i'd guess your SD card is pretty fast). But it could be contributing if you have contact pictures. For reference mine are on the storage card.
What rom are you using? i'd suggest giving the energy rom a try if you haven't and see what you think as it is definitely the quickest i've used.
Guys,
Try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5024178&postcount=389
a Manila mod to "limit" the number of messages to display on a page, based on the older HTC Messaging Client as was in Manila 2.1. That's exactly what you all wish for?