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Tilt Annoyance

Hello all,
I just got my AT&T Tilt and love it so far, except for one major annoyance. When I press the power button, the device will turn the screen back on after a few seconds to a few minutes. The problem is when it's in my pocket, it can accidentally call people. My 8125 and 8525 did not experience this issue.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!

Button lock
It sounds as though the phone isn't set to lock all buttons except the power button when it is in standby. This happened to me last time I re-flashed my Wizard, and I couldn't figure out for ages why my battery was draining so quickly as well!
Settings > Buttons > Lock

Hmm, not seeing any option under Buttons or Lock. I do remember this setting from WM5. It does appear, however, that the buttons are not turning the phone on, it's just waking up even if I leave it on a desk.

You can add lock to the home screen

first press and hold the hang-up button so that it locks. Then just push the power button once. This puts it in standby.
There is a idle timeout for going on standby mode, but I can't find a setting to auto-lock.

JBHorne said:
When I press the power button, the device will turn the screen back on after a few seconds to a few minutes.
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Are you paired to a Bluetooth device? I see similar behavior in my 8525 when in my car - the BT car kit does stuff which "wakes" the 8525
Richard

Try this leaving Google Maps On the Screen
Hi Guys,
I get this behavior when I have Google Maps running. It will even cycle the screen on and off a couple times.

nope and nope. just sitting on the today screen.

JBHorne said:
When I press the power button, the device will turn the screen back on after a few seconds to a few minutes.
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I have the very same problem.
However, my girlfriend whom I also bought a Tilt for, her's doesn't do it.
We've installed all the same software too, so I'm a little puzzled.

start>settings>system> key lock. set it to lock all buttons except power.

rzanology said:
start>settings>system> key lock. set it to lock all buttons except power.
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Hmmm.. yeah, umm my key lock is already set to lock all buttons except power.
The problem isn't with when you press a button it comes on. The problem is the phone turns on by itself, sitting on a table, nothing being pressed, no new email, no new sms, just lights up and that's it.

JonRick said:
Hmmm.. yeah, umm my key lock is already set to lock all buttons except power.
The problem isn't with when you press a button it comes on. The problem is the phone turns on by itself, sitting on a table, nothing being pressed, no new email, no new sms, just lights up and that's it.
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Any number of applications might be starting the device, from weather apps to calendar, diary, time sync etc etc. For example, HTCs weather app will do it depending on how often you have it set to another example I came across from someone was TREO ALERTS that contains a script "refresh.mscr" and it was set up refresh time 30 seconds (this was turning his TyTn II on by itself).
Mike

hard reset and try again.

i'm betting that none of these suggestions were helpful (except the one about some application generating a wakeup event without any other visual notifications).
i was having the same problem, but i just tried to narrow down which running program was causing the events. it's one of:
* wireless manager
* messaging
* IM
my guess is IM; i'm going to test that out in a second.

well, it's none of the above. still seems to wake up randomly anywhere from 15 seconds to several minutes.
seems to happen more frequently when it's just been turned off.

Even if you were to find what was turing the phone back on, this can still be a problem just from normal use... obviously, you WANT the phone to turn on for things like a call coming in. The solution for people like us who stick our phones in our pockets is to "lock" the phone. But for whatever reason, the Tilt doesn't lock the phone while holding down the end key. That means the only convenient way to lock it is to keep the lock function on the today screen, wasting space. Hopefully someone can find a way to allow the end key to lock the device on the Tilt just like the unbranded device.

dscline said:
Even if you were to find what was turing the phone back on, this can still be a problem just from normal use... obviously, you WANT the phone to turn on for things like a call coming in. The solution for people like us who stick our phones in our pockets is to "lock" the phone. But for whatever reason, the Tilt doesn't lock the phone while holding down the end key. That means the only convenient way to lock it is to keep the lock function on the today screen, wasting space. Hopefully someone can find a way to allow the end key to lock the device on the Tilt just like the unbranded device.
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i'm fine with using the lock function, but it still turns on randomly, using battery, and eventually unnecessarily yellowing the screen from backlight aging. my next approach is to check out the notification queue, using a notification cleaner app.

So i am having a similar problem. When i press the power button, the phone's screen turns off but when the keyboard slides, it turns back on... is there a way to make it so the keyboard sliding does not turn on the device? I think the keyboard slides around a little when in my pocket and i hate pushing 3 buttons to unlock my phone... thanks

I was having the same problem.
This is an issue with the ATT rom. Flash over HTC rom and you will be all set.

I have been having the same problem as well. I just installed this DeviceLock program:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305402
If you enable the "Lock on Wake" option, the device will be locked when it wakes up, so the backlight stays off and you won't call anyone by accidentally hitting buttons.
Also, I ran across this related thread you might want to check out (basically talking about the same thing, but for the TyTn II):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=341419

Brightness after phone call / key unlock issues

Hello everyone. I have an AT&T Tilt, and it's great so far, except for two issues:
1) After I end a phone call, the backlight seems to go off and the screen is very dim. Pressing keys does not bring the backlight back. If I power the screen off and on, the backlight comes back on and the screen is at its normal brightness.
2) I lock my AT&T Tilt using the "Device unlocked" area on my home screen, and when I unlock the phone, sometimes it asks for my PIN, and sometimes it just shows the unlock button on the screen. My settings are for a 12 hour timeout.
If anyone can shed any light on possible fixes to these issues, that would be great. Thanks!

mrbofus said:
Hello everyone. I have an AT&T Tilt, and it's great so far, except for two issues:
1) After I end a phone call, the backlight seems to go off and the screen is very dim. Pressing keys does not bring the backlight back. If I power the screen off and on, the backlight comes back on and the screen is at its normal brightness.
2) I lock my AT&T Tilt using the "Device unlocked" area on my home screen, and when I unlock the phone, sometimes it asks for my PIN, and sometimes it just shows the unlock button on the screen. My settings are for a 12 hour timeout.
If anyone can shed any light on possible fixes to these issues, that would be great. Thanks!
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I have the same issue after a phone call....

Same issue here too... it doesn't happen when on USB-power... and I don't remember it doing this before the security-Exchange policy was forced onto my phone.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1566518&postcount=2

I think this happens coz the phone goes into standby / lock mode during your phone call. Just press the on/off button to turn screen off, and press again to turn on. Now your phone will be responsive again.
Minor bug.

Or you can just scroll the volume wheel to turn it back on.

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1566518&postcount=2
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thanks michi

thanks everyone for your replies. I will try the StayUnlock application.
I still don't understand my second issue though. If the bug is causing this issue, shouldn't it at least be consistent in either requiring me to type in my PIN or just hit the unlock button? I have set my phone to lock after 12 hours, so it should never ask for my PIN, just the unlock button...
I now see that people have been having the first issue since the Cingular 8125 but I have been unable to find any references to my second issue.

ATT Til and Backlight
When making a phone call, once connected, about 12 seconds later the screen goes dark regardless of the setting on the backlight. I am not using a password, and the only way to get back is to use the power button. using the phone button puts the call on hold

Problem with Phone App

Well I've had my Tilt for a week now and I have been frustrated completely with the Phone App.
First of all, when I am calling a tone prompted location where you have to press the keys to get somewhere (611, corporate voicemail, etc), some of the time the phone will go into "hold" when i press the keys.
Secondly, after a call that i have pressed the keys for tone operation, the phone app will not completely close. the screen will stay half dim and the start bar and task panes are locked out. i can't access any of the icons at the top of the screen. the only button available is the task manager which shows no programs running.
i can pretty much replicate the 2nd problem consistently. does anyone else have this problem? Please try to call into a company say even 611, go through all the tone prompts and see if the phone app closes appropriately afterwards. make sure you are on the phone long enough for the screen to automatically dim.
the only way for me to get past this is to softboot so i can get access to the start menu again. but i'd rather not have to softboot after every phone call =T
Thanks!

Same problem here, any help would be great.
Massiv

disable the lock thing where you have to enter a pin - i think its a bug in the rom

Same problem - but if press the on/off button for the screen twice I do have again access to all icons. Not nice but ....

yeah i was messing around with the phone last night and realized that it has to do with phone lock and figured out if you press the power button to put it to sleep and press it again to wake it up, everything is normal again. it was just a fluke how i found out but i'm glad to know that this isn't only my problem. i was about to do another hard reset on the phone.
i called ATT techsupport and they told me it might be the simcard. can other Tilt owners chime in here. is this a ROM problem or could it be related to a faulty sim?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1566518&postcount=2

two problems out of the blue! anyone else?

YESTERDAY my phone locked when i turned hit the power button. i havent used a password device lock since i got the phone months ago so i have no clue how it happened. no passwords would work but i simple soft reset solved the problem.
TODAY i noticed that i didn't have a data connection like usual, since i always have push email running. opened up active sync and all server info was missing.
all i did was a system restore and got everything back to normal.
I have never had any of these problems and i figure i would share them with you in case its a bug of some sort.

every now and then my phone will say its locked; i am unsure if its a button i hit or what; but i then have to use my stylus to be able to hit the small icon that says unlock (or something like that) (it is frustrating when you are driving and the phone becomes lock and you are trying to hit that small icon with you finger to unlock it).
I must say though i have never entered a password for locking nor has my phone required to enter a password when it says it has become locked; but still is wierd that sometimes my phone says its locked and i have to exit out of the lock through the small icon (which is difficult to hit with your finger)......

hello77 said:
every now and then my phone will say its locked; i am unsure if its a button i hit or what; but i then have to use my stylus to be able to hit the small icon that says unlock (or something like that) (it is frustrating when you are driving and the phone becomes lock and you are trying to hit that small icon with you finger to unlock it).
I must say though i have never entered a password for locking nor has my phone required to enter a password when it says it has become locked; but still is wierd that sometimes my phone says its locked and i have to exit out of the lock through the small icon (which is difficult to hit with your finger)......
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your situation is probably that you are holding in the red phone button too long. that will lock the phone. mine on the other hand locks and asks for a password.

You know, I had this today. Got my phone out and the screen was much darker than normal. After a bit of prodding I noticed the left softkey had changed to "unlock".
I have no idea why this happene, though just tried holding down the red button as you said and it did indeed lock. How strange!

Yep. Holding the END key results in your phone locking. I used to use this method to lock my phone before S2U2 did it for me.
I believe pretty recently, someone found a way to re-map holding the END key. Do a bit of searching and I'm sure you'll find it.

FYI- back to the topic. has anyone experienced either situation?

Lock Screen or put into "standby"? Best set-up?

Hey guys,
Right, I've come over from symbian, namely UIQ and the SE P-series, so am used to things being somewhat different. The main issue I don't seem to be able to find a solution to is the screen locking problem.
Essentially, at the moment I push the power button to lock the device, as well as enter a power save mode. I have to say, I like the way that works. However, when I recieve a call (or text with the reg fix) the phone comes to life, great, but say I miss the call, or the phone is in my pocket, the screen is now ACTIVE. Not good news.
How am I supposed to lock this device properly? Screen lock and then the power button? Can't I get a simple tap on the power button to lock and power save the device?
Essentially, if I have a missed call or message I just want the phone to vibrate once, then keep an LED flashing intermittently. But I want the screen to stay LOCKED.
Any help would be much appreciated, and thanks for all the other useful tips on the forum!
Cheers,
Daz.

Go start/settings/System/Long Press End Key
Select automatically execute etc
and Lock device
then OK
then, a long press on the hang up button (bottom right) will lock the phone.
Hope that helps

Perhaps I didn't explain myself. I know how to lock the phone, but how do I make use of the power button tap mode? In other words, the power saving mode?
Can I set up a button that locks the phone, AND sends it to power save mode? (or "turn it off" as WM seems to call it).
Thanks again,
Daz.

I found a regedit in:
HKLM\Software\HTC\KeyLock\SameAsDeviceLock
Set it to 1, but it doesn't do the trick. In fact, it now causes the power button click to not lock the keys.
I suppose the only option is to have standby mode come on after a timeout, lock the device, then it will go into standby on its own. Seems like a slight waste of battery to me!
Cheers,
Daz.

I really want this to work too,
It should unlock and turn on when recieving a call, it should just turn on when recieving an sms (so you can have a quick look from who it is, and then unlock to reply)
and when you lock the device it should automatically turn off...

Not EXACTLY what you want, but S2U2 in the "Development and Hacking" section will improve matters for you.
When you turn the phone off with the power button, S2U2 kicks in. Then:
1) If you turn the phone back on, you'll get the slide to unlock screen.
2) If a call comes in, the phone turns on and you see the caller ID (with full screen picture, if you so desire) on a "slide to answer" screen. The S2U2 default settings ensure that the phone turns itself back off again if you fail to answer it.
3) If a text / e-mail / mms comes through, it notifies you but remains off... When you hit the power button, the "slide to unlock" screen will show missed calls, text messages, e-mails (and even the weather if you want...).
Check it out, it's an essential piece of software in my opinion... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381588

Thanks sub69, great recommendation. However, does anyone else get the bug when hitting the "x" in other applications to close them, the status bar (Or task bar) goes all scrambled and looks like the S2U2 status bar.
Shame this isn't built in though, would be nicer to see the TF3D interface rather than a 3rd party one.
Thanks again!
Daz.

Anyone with other suggestions? S2U2 is just a little too buggy at the moment on the diamond...

use "BatteryStatus" from www.chti-tai.info, they have a option for devicelock on wakeup, so even u missed a call, and the screen light up, it is still locked.

somone posted this on other thread.
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Now we don't need any devicelock software with diamond.
If you want automatic lock your diamond you have to change this registry key HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\BackLight\AutoDevic eLockEnable from 0 to 1 and everytime your backlight goes off automatically your device are locked
Sorry for may bad english but i'm italian.
Ciao

Thanks for that reg fix, seems like a good option. There was a new S2U2 version release, 1.5, and that seems to work well for me. Will see how that goes for now...
Cheers guys! Daz.

the reg edit is good, but it doesn't solve the problem of unlocked touchscreen prone to being pressed during incoming call (when scrambling in your pocket to take out the phone)
btw there are several other threads where this problem is addressed and deeply analyzed (without a complete working solution, however...)

dazbradbury take a look at sensorlock, if you have not already.