Hello good people,
I've been searching the forums but i don't seem to be able to find a solution for my dead kaiser.
I'll explain the problem:
When i push the power button on my Kaiser, it start's booting the first part, displaying the "smart mobility" slogan by HTC, after a few seconds, some data appears in red, in the right lower corner of the screen, this is what is says:
R 1.27.12.11
G 22.45.88.07H
D 1.56.00.00
After displaying this for a while (about 1 min.) it goes to the Windows Mobile Splash Screen.
After displaying this for a few seconds (5 to 10 secs) it makes the "empty battery" sound and shuts down.
Can someone help me ?
*** And NO, the battery is NOT empty ... i've charged it over night, and the power light was green. ***
I've tried booting with and without SIM and MicroSD cards ... makes no difference.
ttenhag said:
..snip*** And NO, the battery is NOT empty ... i've charged it over night, and the power light was green. ***
I've tried booting with and without SIM and MicroSD cards ... makes no difference.
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Will it boot with the phone plugged in to power?
Bill
Yeah, try booting with the charger on. Chances are that your battery' life is out..
Reagdrs,
Carty..
I have had the same thing and wondered if it was the battery... except that sometimes it will stay on for about 2 minutes, sometimes half an hour... but most of the time as soon as it goes to the Today screen, I get the battery dead sound and then it turns off. I am going to try to use another battery to see if that makes a difference.
it's not the battery
I've tried with the power cord on the phone, it does 2 things:
1. The same thing as i said before
2. Doesn't boot at all, it halts on the screen where the red data shows up and stays there until you take the power cord off and the battery out.
It does one of these things, randomly.
I've also tried with another battery from my friends kaiser which works perfectly.
So i guess it's not the battery, anyone another idea what it could be?
Might be something wrong with the firmware or anything? problem is, i can't flash it if it doesn't boot can i ??
any ideas ?
Today i managed to get my hands on a brand new kaiser battery, my uncle has a brand new kaiser and i borrowed his battery.
His battery was full, i put it in my kaiser and tried booting, same problem as above.
I've tried with the power cord plugged into the phone, the charging led went on, and i tried booting, same as above.
Later i've tried with the USB cable connected to the phone and the computer, still the same.
I've also tried soft&hard resetting with the new battery, no succes.
So therefore, i believe it's not a battery or a power problem, it must be firmware corrupted or something of the hardware broke ?
Does anyone has any idea how i can try to re-flash this thing ? to find out if that might be the problem ?
It's not the battery. Could be a bad flash or something. Try to reflash it. Yes, it will reflash even though it won't "boot" as you say. Try to reflash and then report back. Remove the memory card for now.
Also, what Rom and SPL are you using?
Ur going to have to force it into the bootloader to flash it, no biggie. Just hold down the power and camera buttons, and hold the soft reset button with the stylus, untill you get the tri color boot screen. Then flash away! I would flash a stock rom until u can tell weather your problem is hardware related or not. If hardware related keep the stock rom and spl, and try to warrenty return it.
O.k., this just happened to my Brand New kaiser last night too, WTF! Was running fine when the low battery icon came up with half battery life n shut down, now it wont start up at home screen for more than 3 secs before it shuts down and says the battery is dead even while its plugged in! There's no way to reflash or hard reset since it doesn't stay on long enough to do so. Just ordered my replacement, but reading different forums, it seems many people have experienced this with Kaiser and most around the same time, again, WTF!!!
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O.k., this just happened to my Brand New kaiser last night too, WTF! Was running fine when the low battery icon came up with half battery life n shut down, now it wont start up at home screen for more than 3 secs before it shuts down and says the battery is dead even while its plugged in! There's no way to reflash or hard reset since it doesn't stay on long enough to do so. Just ordered my replacement, but reading different forums, it seems many people have experienced this with Kaiser and most around the same time, again, WTF!!!
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Does it power off while beeing in bootloader? You doesnt have to start the device up to get into bootloader you know. Try checking if it shuts down while beeing in bootloader, if its not just reflash. Another thing, what spl and rom are you guys having this problem using?
It's alive!!!
Finally got it to bootloader mode before it dies and reflashed and it seems to be running just fine now. Using spl ver.1 with schaps 4.30 wm 6 (although users running the stock rom had the same experience). Got the "smart chip not provisioned mm 2" message most likely from at&t killing my sim card from a reorder as they did when I Returned the Iphone which is a rediculous policy(policing); having to constantly contact at&t to update to a new sim. Still, it makes me wonder what caused this defunct in the first place, and if it'll happen again tomorrow or the next day. Reflashing and reinstalling cabs is a Real *****, especially for a pda where people use their device for business and gather a collection of missed calls and lost connections when the Os decides to randomly crash. As much as I dig htc's devices, it's kinda strange how HTC, with such a huge marketshare with pda's, is so quiet about updates or firmware fixes. Anyways, long live the only source for htc fixes, XDA!!
Mine is still completely in the state in which i got it.
Just the stock HTC Firmware, rom's and loaders
Okay, a little update.
How the hell can i flash this thing if it keeps on bugging me with the "Wrong vender ID" message when i try to flash it ?
I know, install HardSPL ... but how can i ? without a possibility to connect ActiveSync?, you'll have to start the device for that and run activesync, but i can't because it won't even boot.
Is there any other way of getting this device to allow me to flash without needing to boot it up fully.
I have no problems getting in to the Tri-Color bootloader, but no further.
When updating it gets to 1%, then my PC gives the message: "Wrong vender ID, please use your own device's update utility" and the phone stays at 1% till i rip out the battery.
ok guys I have the same problem with two of my kaiser's
I can power them up but in aproximately 1 minut goes off, no matter if the charger is plugged or not, it doesn't make a difference
I can put the phone in tri-color screen and stays there with no problem
and I can flash them with no problem because they are olipro already
but after flash them with anything still the same problem ???
so if anybody has a clue or maybe a rom to fix this would be great
thanks
best regards
linterna
One more thing. I have the same problem but mine when starts flashes Blue LED when was good hasn't. I Started few times and it works for 2-3 weeks and again. Best to do is to not use camera. Every time it happends i ise my camera and battery was middle-low. I think its some problem with camera. Many times it don't want to start up or saids that there is no memory for saving photo. Maybe i should flash rom from wersion without cameras.
im having the same problem, has anyone solved this?
Yeah solve . HTC as a kids toy .
Buy Nokia! Or SonyEricsson.
I won't buy smartphone ever again.
Does not boot to the OS
I have the similar problem...... My kaiser is dead not even booting with battery only (not plugged to the PC or external charger).
However when I plugged it to the power source it boots up and continue to the OS and boom (shuts off) in split of second.
I tried different flash and it propelry boots and got windows up and running when plugged to the PC with the old ATT test ROM which I got from the xda threads.
But with the latest roms it wont boot to the windows , it dies before that.
Anyone having idea what could resolve this.
any update on this? i am having the same problem. i tried a hard reset already with no success it goes to the splash screen and says "the device is clearing the storage. please wait" then pings and turns off
r 1.65.21.18
g 25.88.40.05h
d 3.57.00.00
my phone is completely stock and has never been unlocked or messed with. found an updated at&t rom, i ran it and none of the numbers change in the bootup, then goes to the splash screen and says again "the device is clearinng the storage. please wait" and then pings and turns off.
also i have been searching for the oilpro or jockeyw hard spl files on google and on here but have found nothing, the search function doesnt seem to be able to find much.
any help would be appreciative, thanks in advance
Don't mean to hijack but didn't want to make my own thread when this one was here. I'm not having exactly the same problem as everyone else but I am having a battery issue. It works fine and says it's charging when plugged in but when I unplug it the battery goes down fast (like 1-4 % a minute) and when it hits around 70%, it shuts off. Then whenever I turn it on, it immediately shuts down before the Today screen fully shows (like others are mentioning here). I have to plug it back into the charger to get it to turn on again.
Could this be a bad flash too..? I know I did one of the latest HardSPLs and tonight I just now updated to the latest stock AT&T ROM. But it can't be a flash because the night I got it (bought it used on eBay), I was playing with it not plugged in using Skype and it shut off on me. I didn't think much of it and had always had it plugged in since then.
I'm assuming I simply need a new battery.. I've emailed the original owner and she says she never had any problems with it like this.
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Don't mean to hijack but didn't want to make my own thread when this one was here. I'm not having exactly the same problem as everyone else but I am having a battery issue. It works fine and says it's charging when plugged in but when I unplug it the battery goes down fast (like 1-4 % a minute) and when it hits around 70%, it shuts off. Then whenever I turn it on, it immediately shuts down before the Today screen fully shows (like others are mentioning here). I have to plug it back into the charger to get it to turn on again.
Could this be a bad flash too..? I know I did one of the latest HardSPLs and tonight I just now updated to the latest stock AT&T ROM. But it can't be a flash because the night I got it (bought it used on eBay), I was playing with it not plugged in using Skype and it shut off on me. I didn't think much of it and had always had it plugged in since then.
I'm assuming I simply need a new battery.. I've emailed the original owner and she says she never had any problems with it like this.
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I've just started having the same problem as you. Very annoying. Mine phone is a year and a half old now, so i'm assuming the battery is coming to an end.
Charge battery, will last a while, but goes down to around 80-70% and then it says plug power in blah blah blah and dies. Then when you charge it, it stays on one or 2 bars for a bit and then jumps to 100% fully charged.
Saw a procedure to "reset" the battery. Supposedly have to take the battery out for a bit then plug in and charge fully over night with the phone OFF. None of this seemed to work for me... I'm due for an upgrade in January, so is it really worth paying for a new battery... hmmm
Hey there.
I have my HTC S730 for nearly 2 months now.
I don't know why but my Wings plays a strange melody and then turns off.
Even if the battery is fully loaded! After it turned off it takes a long time before i can turn it on again. I can push the start button on the top of my smartphone but nothing happens.
I don't know what it is. I Hardresetet my device 3-4 times now but it's still not working correctly.
Can you please help me?
Did anyone recieve the same "error"?
I have the same error!
But no solution.
It happens sometimes, mosty not logical... I'll wait for a few weeks, if it keeps on i'll go back for warranty!
What are you running when the reboot occurs? Never looked but is there a way to schedule it to do such a thing?
Does it display anything on screen before it happens? You might check in the power options to see if its shutting down due to some setting...
When I have some time I will dig through mine and take a look.
Off the top of my head I would surmise that its either overheating and shutting off, an installed application is causing issues and it is turning off, a setting within the phone is causing it to turn off, or something is wrong with the device.
May be caused by overheating. I have no other applikation installed on my Device since i Hardreset it. It shows up the HTC logo when it shutsdown.
I dont run any applications at all. Sometimes i listen to music with the Music Player.
When i start my phone up again (after some waiting time) it shows me that my battery power is 0. After some time of waiting it shows me that my battery is nearly fully loaded.
It only happens 1 or 2 times per day.
But please help me
It's not overheating in my case.
I saw it happen last time (5 minutes ago), just before the HTC logo is saw a little cross trough the battery indicator. I suppose the battery is not good? After reboot the indicator shows a full battery??
I would give HTC a call about those batteries. I would think that they are bad, or the phone is having issues drawing power from them and so it shuts off.
If its overheating it should be VERY warm to the touch, I have gotten mine warm but never hot after some heavy use, but I just let it cool off afterwards and it was just fine.
Usually with low battery it will flash a warning on screen and make a noise indicating low battery, but if the battery suddenly is in zero the phone could automatically shut off. Does it power off quicker than a normal shut down sequence? I would have thought that the phone would just run until it's instantly cut off by a dead battery, but if its misreading it or reads it in the danger zone it could have an auto shut down.
Had the same thing with my wings/s730.
After hard resetting it it worked fine again.
Hey.
My diamond is acting strangely. For example, right know it's on but later on today or during the night it will turn off. And each morning I have to take out the battery out for about one minute and then press the power on button to get it to start up. If I don't take the battery out and I press the power on button it doesn't start-up. It just remains off. Sometimes it just gets stuck at the start-up O2 screen. But after a few tries it starts up normally and works.
I don't want to have to do this each morning, like I've been doing for the last several days.. Has this ever happened to anyone else? Anyone know how to fix this?
Thanks.
no but I've been having a similar problem lately, my diamond seems to shut itself off almost right after WM boots. I figured it might be a battery problem because it seemed to happen only when it was running off the battery or right after I disconnected it from the charger so I threw on nuePowerCPL to check battery levels, disabled the backlight power management and it's been up and running for 2 hours straight ... when I exit neuPowerCPL I get a voice command error that says voice command had a problem starting, please re-run the application and the phone freezes. Totally stumped about the powering off though. It may have something to do with the power management, I think it seemed to happen most when the screen tried to shut itself off, not always during that time though. I've reflashed telus(my provider) shipped rom a few times and tried a few other roms, reformatted my internal storage, hard reset etc. Any help would be appreciated if it saves me a few bucks on a battery.
quick bump, i'm completely stumped here. I booted into the latest android image from MrPippy and the phone doesn't restart when it's unplugged like in winmo without the battery monitor running(in winmo my phone will stay on till the battery is completely dead, showing good power levels, only if the battery meter is running, otherwise it restarts within a few minutes regardless of if I'm touching it or not.).
So it works normally with Android?
Then it's seems to be a problem with Windows.. Have you tried flashing another ROM?
Goodluck.
Also, an update on my situation. Thankfully it appears to be working normally now. At least if during the night I turn it off and take out the battery. There hasn't been any unexpected shutdowns since I left the battery out on Sunday night. Tonight I'm going to leave it on, to see if leaving the battery out all night actually helps, or it just is suddenly working properly.
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So it works normally with Android?
Then it's seems to be a problem with Windows.. Have you tried flashing another ROM?
Goodluck.
Also, an update on my situation. Thankfully it appears to be working normally now. At least if during the night I turn it off and take out the battery. There hasn't been any unexpected shutdowns since I left the battery out on Sunday night. Tonight I'm going to leave it on, to see if leaving the battery out all night actually helps, or it just is suddenly working properly.
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Yeah, I've tried running a few different stock roms, a few off ppcgeeks/everythingdiamond etc, re-flashed spl once or twice, repartitioned/formatted sd card. Even tried leaving my battery out overnight. Was thinking in a frost-free freezer, in a bag of rice tonight ...
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And how would that help? lol
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And how would that help? lol
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If there's any moisture in the battery the rice will pull it out and the cold helps arrange the polarity in the battery ... You never used to put dead batteries in the freezer to bring them back to life when you were a kid?
Well, no. I've never heard about that before. >.<
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Well, no. I've never heard about that before. >.<
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Didn't work anyways. I just read another thread about a hard reset solving this but ... I've gone as far as completely repartitioning my internal storage + hard resets and that hasn't solved it. When I throw a multimeter on my battery the voltage is constant/consistent. At a total loss. As far as I can tell it seems like a blackhole in my battery between 0%-60%. Seems that once the battery drains itself to 60%, it's more like it's drained itself to 0%. When I plug the phone back in after it shuts itself off the battery is always reading 0% NOW, when I started troubleshooting this crap a few weeks ago it would power off any time (battery @ 94%) and I would power it back on to see windows reporting the same battery levels as when it shut off.
Update: I did a format w/mtty a day and a half ago and my phone hasn't restarted since (besides me restarting it, read ahead). The phone seems to be working fine for the most part but it seems the battery readings are never updated, it will sit w/an icon that says 94% in the taskbar all day, when I restart it it jumps down to 59% and stays there all day until another restart. Seems the only time I'm getting a reading from the battery is on first boot. Doesn't restart now though!
Good.
Unfortunately for my Diamond had a blank black screen when I turned the screen on this morning. ): After a couple of soft resets and after flashing another ROM it began working correctly. I'll see if it does the same tomorrow. :/
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Good.
Unfortunately for my Diamond had a blank black screen when I turned the screen on this morning. ): After a couple of soft resets and after flashing another ROM it began working correctly. I'll see if it does the same tomorrow. :/
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Which ROM had the problems? Which is the new one?
I have the same problems with EnergyROM (September 20 release). My current guess is WM6.5 not working properly with power controller of Diamond.
Could be. :/ The first time it gave me problems I had a WM 6.5 rom, and this time I had also flashed a WM 6.5 rom.. When it re-began to give me problems it had BOGYSOFTS V6 ROM, I don't know about the first time. Now that you point it out all the times it has given me problems I had a WM 6.5 rom, but maybe it's just coincidence..
Now it's not even turning on. If I press the Power On button and leave in it's pocket after a while it becomes somewhat hot... I don't know what's up. :S
This randomly started happening to me about 4 months ago. I was out at some clubs and whenever i checked my phone it was off! I thought it was a battery issue at first as thats what it seemed like.
I think I just hit the phone on the soft part of my leg pretty hard a few times. I havn't had any issues since.
I have this problem that when I try to boot my X1 it zooms when I press the power button but after that nothing happens!
The screen stays black and when I press the button again nothing happens...
Have to take battery out to get it to zoom again.. Still nothing happens.
When I give the X1 external power it doesn't do the zoom and it does not charge (lights dont go on)
When I keep the reset button pressed I do get in the software part where I can load ROMs... I got it started to reload the ROM for reinstallation but when it tried to boot again, again nothing...
now I cant even get into bootloader..
leave it on a charger for a few hours
Looks like you bricked your phone somehow. Sometimes it happens even if you didn't do anything to it (if you flashed a unofficial rom). Now what you can do is to sell it for parts for $20 or $30 on eBay. =) Good luck on selling.
Try with another fully charged battery.
Does not seem to be bricked...
Since I left it "on" all night and tried to take battery out and start it up..
And it worked... Got into windows but as soon as he went on standby and I tried to get it out it stayed black again. After rebooting the same thing... Stayed pitch black...
Oke when I remove the battery and press the on/off button a few times and leave it for a couple of minutes, stick battery back in there and boot it, I can get into windows..
Problem now is that after a period of a couple of minutes it crashes again and the same problem persists with rebooting, untill I do the same trick
Found out new info about the problem! When I removed the battery for a short while I could boot it and do everything but it would crash again after a short while..
I removed the battery the whole night now and it keeps working for like an hour straight now. So it depends on how long the battery got removed (strange :S)
Next to that the X1 wont charge when it's shut down... Only when I get it to boot into OS..