Maybe this belongs in a subforum that is not specific to the Raphael, but I couldn't find a good place for it.
Obviously if you can use an Exchange server or forward your e-mail to one, you should have no trouble at all getting Push e-mail on any Windows Mobile 5 or 6 smartphone.
If you use BlackBerry Enterprise with Exchange or with Lotus Notes, Novell, etc. you can download BlackBerry Connect 4.0.0.103 and use that setup for push.
{I found some other helpful threads...}
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409108
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372291
THE ISSUE OF PUSHING IMAP TO YOUR FUZE
My university provides Exchange for everyone except undergrads. I am an undergrad. I've looked for various solutions to get push e-mail working with our IMAP (Horde IMP) server working. The default WM client works fine except that it is not push, and checking the server every 5 minutes drains my battery. I use this setup for all of my non-primary e-mail accounts, i.e. Formal Gmail, Informal Gmail, and AOL IMAP, which I generally need only to check on-demand.
My university mail is another story. Often times it is crucial to view a message within minutes of it's having been sent.
I will now list the options that I have found so far:
Blackberry Connect:
I first tried paying for BlackBerry Connect, but soon discovered that once I had setup my school's IMAP, there was no two-way sync between my inbox and my BlackBerry. If I read an e-mail in Thunderbird, Outlook, or Webmail before I read it on my phone, it was still marked as unread on my phone. The reverse, however, worked with some lag. I could synchronize deleted items, but this was sort of a manual thing. This is a known issue, and most of the online documentation discusses Gmail IMAP access. Also,arrival times were inconsistent...between 25 seconds and 10 minutes.
I could get around this by forwarding all my e-mail to a Yahoo Mail account, for which Two-Way Sync is available for Blackberry Internet Service. I'd rather not.
Summary: no two-way sync with most IMAP and Gmail IMAP; I can't read all my e-mail on my phone first.
SEVEN Beta:
After realizing that AT&T's "GetMail" was owned by SEVEN, this option appealed to me substantially. I think they are somehow related to GoodLink from Good Messaging. There have been so many mergers and takekovers, it's rather hard to keep track.
2:30 before messages arrived, but was pushed!
:55 before message marked read on phone was marked read on server, but was pushed!
1:15 before message marked read on server
Of course hitting the "Synchronize Now" button makes these two latter changes instantaneous.
To me this seems like a pretty good solution so far, except that the SEVEN configuration program will only open once after a soft reboot. I'll have to see if the entrails or remnants of BlackBerry Connect are causing this problem: I'll be doing a hard reboot in a few minutes.
Attachments and per message data limitations work even better than the default IMAP client.
Summary: Still in Beta, but pretty good; delays of only a few minutes.
IMAP Pusher Service
I discovered that this option requires running a file every time you start your phone. I haven't tried this one yet, but I'll let you know how it works when I do.
I like how basic and non-invasive this one seems. It runs on the IMAP-idle command, assuming your server supports it. However, the developer claims it is not very secure. (I'm not sure if any of these solutions are...)
eMoze
I haven't tried this one yet, and I'm not sure if I want to.
I seem to remember that it works a lot like Verizon's Wireless Sync in terms of storing everything on their server. I'm not sure if I like that notion. If anyone has used eMoze, please let me know what they thought of it. I may try this one too.
mobiPush
I know little about this except that it was thrown up as a possible answer in another forum. I have since discovered that it is buggy, and support seems to have almost all but disappeared.
Emansio
This one also seems very basic, and while it wouldn't work while BlackBerry Connect was installed, now it works fine. Just make sure your Thunderbird isn't set up to use IMAP-IDLE. Otherwise you will have a "synchronization error."
E-mails, deleted and whatnot, sync up within 30 seconds; as fast as in Thunderbird. The only problem with this solution is that it costs 20 GBP! And its interface is not very pretty. I'll give this one some time to mature.
This seems to be based on its predecessor, VGS Mail. I'm tempted to buy it...we'll see how well SEVEN works for a while....
Hosted Exchange at mail2web
I really just don't want to deal with forwarding. Otherwise, I think this would be a very good "native" solution in that it uses OTA ActiveSync.
Please add suggestions if you can! Perhaps we can turn this into a Sticky or a Wiki somewhere.
Here's a modified chart from another thread:
(M - MobiPush, F - Funambol, S - SEVEN, E - Emoze, W - Mail2web, I - Imappusher, A - EmAnsio after payment)
Code:
M F S E W I A
No Add Soft: (Activepush) M - - - W - A
HTML Email: - - S – W I A
Fast Email: m – s – w I A+
Reliable Email: m - S – w - A
No ad/insert in reply email: M – S – W I A
Low Battery Usage: M f S e W - A
Direct send from Gmail acc: M F S E - I A
Customized Sender Name: M F - E W I A
Gratuitous Attention-Grab
Hey everyone,
I think this is an important enough issue for this device, so I'm going to double-post. Sorry. My last post was too long to read.
As of today, what do you all think is the best method for pushing IMAP to your Fuze?
I'm using Seven right now, but I'm close to switching to Emansio. (formerly VGS Mail)
IMAP Pusher would be a great option if you didn't have to start it every time you soft-reset your device.
Let me know what you all think!
And yes, I know it would be much better if I could convince my school to use Exchange or BlackBerry....
NighTalon said:
Hey everyone,
IMAP Pusher would be a great option if you didn't have to start it every time you soft-reset your device.
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Make a shortcut of IMAP Pusher and place it under the StartUp folder in the Windows directory. That way it will automatically launch it on start up.
Check out FlexMail. It does IMAP push. http://www.webis.net/. It's not perfect because sometimes it loses the connection to the IMAP server and doesn't figure it out. But of the IMAP push solutions that I have tried it is the best. (I am using this on the Hermes, hoping for Raphael soon.)
Sorry, I didn't have time to list more of the features about to leave. But please look at the site and post questions about the product.
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Hello all,
I need to have instant notification of my emails and thought the only way was Blackberry until I heard of Push Email.
I have a K-Jam with the latest imate os. I've read that this version has push email with it but cant see it in the programs or anything.
What do I need to install etc to recieve emails from my ISP. What backend setup do I need? I have a pop 3 account that is web based too and i am on the O2 network in the UK
Thanks for your help guys.
Scaseman
Hi,
Push Email (or "DirectPush" as Microsoft seem to call it) only works in conjuction with an Exchange server I'm afraid. It doesn't work with POP3 boxes.
There are probably some companies offering POP3-->Exchange services for people like yourself wanting push email who don't have Exchange (or there will likely be some) but I don't personally know of any at the moment.
DirectPush works by connecting to an HTTP server (Exchange) and keeping the connection open/idle until something changes then a ActiveSync is performed. The POP3 protocol simply doesn't have anything to allow you to keep it open without sending something constant to keep it alive which would seriously add up on the traffic.
thanks xanth
I'm actually gonna have an Exchange Server 2003 soon. I read that I need SP2 installed aswell
Where do I go from there then? ie configuring my k-jam.
Configuring the mobile devices themselves isn't particularly hard. When you set up the sync instead of syncing with Outlook you specify with an Exchange server and just follow the prompts. It seems to connect/realise DirectPush (SP2) is available and that's it. You configure the schedule... and away it goes.
I found setting up the server was the hardest part. Well not hard, just more time consuming. You'll want/need to create you own SSL certificate (which will need installing on the device) unless you're purchasing a commercial one and configure the IIS timeout value (I'm still experimenting with this one) and then finally actually turn on DirectPush from System Manager. I think that was pretty much it though. Configuring Exchange etc in the first place takes more time than setting up push.
I'll have a pop and let you know..... thanks
I am trying out a commercial hosted exchange service (www.utica.nl) now.
This works very wel, but it has a price too: 5.95 euro per month for the lite package/
Push Email works very good.
As an alternative I am thinking about setting up my own exchange server and having my company-email and calendar forwarded to that one.
What do you advise to run exchange 2003 SP2:
- Windows version / SP?
- Hardware
(I am on a 20Mb down / 2Mb up broadband connection wich allows me to run servers, so there is no issue)
Well you'll need Windows 2000 or 2003 standard server or higher (won't run on a non-server platform), but see this link for full requirements:
http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/evaluation/sysreqs/2003.mspx
I am curious though, how will you forward Calendar events (and contacts?) from one system to another please? I'm not sure I'll ever want to do that, but certainly sounds like something worth knowing!
Cheers!
What would the GPRS cost be to have this open/idle connection active all day and night. Would it send check data every few minutes?
I only ask as my contract talk plan gives me 100KB of data a month for free but after that I pay in chunks.
Thanks
Ben
Here's a paper you cna read...
Mines seems to use between 6kb and 9kb an hour when idle. I wouldn't take that as a rule, just my personal experience. Obviously it goes up a lot more when the actual emails come in!
Wow that's a fantastic guide! Should be put on a new post/stickied or something! Thanks for the files!
Xanth,
That's like 5.5MB a month without a single email going over!
Guess I wont be switching it on then.
Thanks for your reply.
Ben
Well it could just be down to me having flakey service or something and it reconnecting a lot (I haven't noticed that though), but the 6 to 9 kbytes was from running GPRS Monitor and running a report and looking at the overnight hours where I know I didn't get any emails for hours on end.
Router settings
The other thing that is going to make a difference would be the setting on the server. The longer the session can be kept open between the router and the phone the least amount of data that will need to be transfered. For example 15 minutes seems a common amount of time to keep the line openm, at the end of those 15 minutes your phone will initiated a new connection i.e. traffic. Obviously the more often it does this the more traffic generated and the more power needed.
Can i push task or agenda items which are located on the public folders?
scaseman said:
Hello all,
I need to have instant notification of my emails and thought the only way was Blackberry until I heard of Push Email.
I have a K-Jam with the latest imate os. I've read that this version has push email with it but cant see it in the programs or anything.
What do I need to install etc to recieve emails from my ISP. What backend setup do I need? I have a pop 3 account that is web based too and i am on the O2 network in the UK
Thanks for your help guys.
Scaseman
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The reason you want push is to receive an e-mail sent to you IMMEDIATELY The problem I see with push mail is you can't really use forwarding between services because it adds delays that defeat the point of it. It is not essential to have Exchange but most current systems employ it
So you need to implement push using your current e-mail address and provider for best performance
For example if you use a specific e-mail address for all your mail that is what you need to access if you don't want to change your e-mail address
If your e-mail provider uses IMAP there is a solution. It started off fairly shakey but has got quite reliable - it's vgsmail (www.vgsmail.com\ppc)
It uses IMAP idle to connect to your current e-mail (assuming IMAP support) and WORKS
As said using this is the best way of avoiding changing e-mail address and low cost (just data costs) - uses 3or4MB a month just to work - but if you're using your pda for mail you need to be on a good tarriff --- say T-Mobile web'n'walk - soon to become ulimited.
It takes about 10-30 seconds from an e-mail being sent to my PDA notifying me --- all for a one off cost of $21
scaseman said:
Hello all,
I need to have instant notification of my emails and thought the only way was Blackberry until I heard of Push Email.
I have a K-Jam with the latest imate os. I've read that this version has push email with it but cant see it in the programs or anything.
What do I need to install etc to recieve emails from my ISP. What backend setup do I need? I have a pop 3 account that is web based too and i am on the O2 network in the UK
Thanks for your help guys.
Scaseman
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The reason you want push is to receive an e-mail sent to you IMMEDIATELY The problem I see with push mail is you can't really use forwarding between services because it adds delays that defeat the point of it. It is not essential to have Exchange but most current systems employ it
So you need to implement push using your current e-mail address and provider for best performance
For example if you use a specific e-mail address for all your mail that is what you need to access if you don't want to change your e-mail address
If your e-mail provider uses IMAP there is a solution. It started off fairly shakey but has got quite reliable - it's vgsmail (www.vgsmail.com\ppc)
It uses IMAP idle to connect to your current e-mail (assuming IMAP support) and WORKS
As said using this is the best way of avoiding changing e-mail address and low cost (just data costs) - uses 3or4MB a month just to work - but if you're using your pda for mail you need to be on a good tarriff --- say T-Mobile web'n'walk - soon to become ulimited.
It takes about 10-30 seconds from an e-mail being sent to my PDA notifying me --- all for a one off cost of $21
My hosted exchange trial gave e my answer: not gonna work the way I want it. The trouble is with the forwarding of calendar events (that what i want it for).
So setting up my own server will not bring any relief either.
Waiting for my company to support push or me getting a business Blackberry subscription.
Good to try anyway.
does anybody has any experience with this vgsmail stuff?
my e-mail provider supports imap and I could live with a delay of 30sec....
hi, Guys
I am using O2 XDAII unit now, and I am going to push an email to the XDAII thru GPRS. I've seen you guys' discussion above, it really gives me a clue to do the further research.
hi, Edsurb, Re: "Waiting for my company to support push or me getting a business Blackberry subscription", does it mean there are 2 ways to push an email?
(1) We can set an MS Exchange Server 2003 then do some setting in both Exchange server side and the XDA unit, I wonder if the XDA unit can get the email thru GPRS once after the email is sent, how long will it be delayed, how much it costs, it seems it is a way that the XDA unit checks the Exchange server periodically while not a true push, right?
(2) To get a blackberry subscription. Is it a true push? Can a XDAII unit get a blackberry subscription from O2 network?
Thanks a lot for your help!!!
Hi all!
Probably somewhere but I didn't find easily.
Just configured Gmail setting to my Kaiser and it seems that it wont work.
I get all the headers I want but not message itself.
Anybody have same problem and how solved it?
Pasi
actually this is a well documented issue with WM6 and imap and html based messages
So?
I understand that with help of Mr. Google.
however what you suggest? Remove Imap and use POP3 instead? Or something else?
That is what I did. It appears that IMAP is not ready for primetime on the WM platform.
Google IMAP working just fine.
I followed the instuctions that I got from Google and mine works fine.
https://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=78886
Make sure you enable IMAP in your Gmail settings online.
Thats the same set of instructions many have followed including me. I can view my HTML emails fine, but plain text emails are void aside form the headers.
Actually, I don't think it's IMAP the problem, but Google.
I had the same problem on my 8525, and was getting pretty frustrated.
Decided to switch to my ancient AOL account, which was the only other service I could find that offers IMAP, and the email has worked without a hitch. Since then I've got a Tilt and it has worked fine as well.
As much as I loathed AOL before, I'm still more used to using folder on Outlook and my PDA, so switching to AOL which uses folders as opposed to Google's labels wasn't much of a big deal.
The fact is that "Googles's IMAP" implementation IS flawed. The pop works fine. And, this is WM6 device independent.
How about testing with a regular client (like thunderbird to see if your IMAPed-Gmail account works fine ?)
fyi, Yahoo's IMAP works perfectly on my phone. I'd say it's a gmail/wm6 combo, with most of the error being at google.
That was what I based my comments on as well. I have had Yhaoo IMAP for a long time and never had one single issue. The issue has to be rooted in the IMAP implementation from Google as it pertains to WM.
So I just :
- enabled IMAP on my gmail account
- Followed all instructions on my Orange branded Tytn II
- Wifi turned on
- Email headers received
- With body for those plain text
- And with the Yellow box to download HTML content for the sexier ones
- Pressing the link to get the content at next download, then Send/Receive did the trick.
So I can say +1 for those who have no issues with Gmail/Imap
After dealing with buggy versions of Windows Live (I got one version to work reasonably well with push, though it's spotty), I decided to try
Xpress Mail after reading that it has improved.
I set it up on my AT&T Fuze (stock ROM) to use my Gmail account and soft-reset. It's set up to do push by default. I sent myself three test e-mails and, of course, none of them came to my phone immediately. It took anywhere from five to 15 minutes for an e-mail to come through.
After I performed a manual send/receive I sent myself a couple more e-mails and NOTHING! They all came super late.
I know some folks on here are having no problems with their e-mail, but why the hell is it so hard for others to get our push e-mail going?
I've always been under the impression that "push" mail only works with an Exchange Server... and it works well with my business e-mails. I check gmail through IMAP which is an improvement overPOP3, but still needs to poll the server on a schedule.
diar said:
After dealing with buggy versions of Windows Live (I got one version to work reasonably well with push, though it's spotty), I decided to try
Xpress Mail after reading that it has improved.
I set it up on my AT&T Fuze (stock ROM) to use my Gmail account and soft-reset. It's set up to do push by default. I sent myself three test e-mails and, of course, none of them came to my phone immediately. It took anywhere from five to 15 minutes for an e-mail to come through.
After I performed a manual send/receive I sent myself a couple more e-mails and NOTHING! They all came super late.
I know some folks on here are having no problems with their e-mail, but why the hell is it so hard for others to get our push e-mail going?
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Push email is a service provided by the email carrier or vendor, exchange works very good with push because I use it on a daily basis. GMail (as far as I know) does not offer Push, what Xpress mail does is poll (via IMAP) to gmail and pushes the emails once Xpress has received it rather then having your phone do the polling.
Are you serieus? Why my w810i/k850i/w960i all used pushmail service from Gmail? So yes it have pushmail for shure, only MS don't like the idea of not using exchange for it and now we all have to suffer for that :S
diar said:
After dealing with buggy versions of Windows Live (I got one version to work reasonably well with push, though it's spotty), I decided to try
Xpress Mail after reading that it has improved.
I set it up on my AT&T Fuze (stock ROM) to use my Gmail account and soft-reset. It's set up to do push by default. I sent myself three test e-mails and, of course, none of them came to my phone immediately. It took anywhere from five to 15 minutes for an e-mail to come through.
After I performed a manual send/receive I sent myself a couple more e-mails and NOTHING! They all came super late.
I know some folks on here are having no problems with their e-mail, but why the hell is it so hard for others to get our push e-mail going?
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i'm using Mobipush(.com) with satisfaction.
Ciao
I have windows live set up on ROMeOS and I'm having no problem with push. Sometimes I send CABs to myself so i can get them on my phone and it always happens instantly.
jaapschaap said:
So yes it have pushmail for shure, only MS don't like the idea of not using exchange for it and now we all have to suffer for that :S
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If MS didn't like the idea of not using exchange... they wouldn't allow outlook to get mail from pop3/imap. If that's suffering you need to expand your horizons a bit... Sorry for the rant, just tired of anti-MS (not that I'm a big fan). Credit where credit is due.
I didn't read the RFC, but I don't think IMAP supports "push". There is a new proposal for Push-IMAP (P-IMAP) based on IMAP4... Android OS seems to support "push" Gmail and iPhones have some proprietary hooks to get "push" Gmail. So "push" Gmail is out there...
hchavarria said:
Push email is a service provided by the email carrier or vendor, exchange works very good with push because I use it on a daily basis. GMail (as far as I know) does not offer Push, what Xpress mail does is poll (via IMAP) to gmail and pushes the emails once Xpress has received it rather then having your phone do the polling.
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GMail (as far as I know) does not offer Push.....
Emoze - www.emoze.com offers not only G'Mail "pushed" but also access to G'Apps too!!!!!
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IMAP IDLE can be called Push-Mail.
The email client can stay in contact with the IMAP server, which tells the client that there is new mail.
Unfortunately, Outlook Mobile does NOT support IMAP IDLE.
ImapPusherService adds this functionality, but it's still an early version...
I'm not satisfied with Xpress email either. I've only added my main Gmail on so far for testing, but I have several more I want to monitor. With my Treo 680 I had no problem with email monitoring. During Mon-Fri daytime I monitor all my accts with thunderbird portable and therefore don't want email being picked up by the phone too. I set up the custom time settings in Xpress to not do this and yet, email still came through. Also it often picks up old mail - mail that was sent several days ago that I'd already read via POP on thunderbird, etc. I don't want to deal with this ridiculousness. I don't need instant Push per se, but at least the ability to set an account to check every five minutes. Would I be able to replace Xpress with Emoze, FlexMail, ProfiMail, or other email apps smoothly? As in replace it on my email tab easily?
I've had no issued with xpress mail. I'm actually participating in their beta program and have hotmail, yahoo and my work lotus notes mail pushing. A lot of times I will get mail on my htc touch pro before my Notes client on my laptop pulls in the mail.
The big ting I'm looking for (for my wifes phone) is a solution that can push contacts and calendar from yahoo, hotmail or gmail.
Lastly I wish one of these solutions would some how include a script or something triggering your VPN client. When I'm away from my desktop I need the connector to reconnect to the work mail server but it can't without me manually starting my vpn client.
Maybe I need to learn how to write a script to not own launch my VPN client but also to click on connect...
For everyone that claims Gmail doesn't offer push, if i connect the first time to it via imap on every latest model (later then w810i) it says 'gmail offers pushmail, activate it on this phone?'... it workes really great (on a SE phone) but MS don't like us to use other clients...
It just sucks, and of there was a real solution for this (a real program instead of ms outlook) it wil be used by almost everyone with wm i quess!
I wanted to throw out some names: I use Seven's Beta for my university (Yale) IMAP push. I also use Funambol to synchronize contacts, tasks, notes, calendar with Outlook.
Alternatives for Push Gmail include Emansio, Emoze, IMAP-pusher service, Mobipush.
I've posted on this issue extensively, so just do a search!
Okay so I need to know which is better:
Seven?
eMoze?
Mobipush?
Emansio?
I currently use seven and don't like that it can't set times to push the data (say every hour). It just leaves a time on to push. Like a time period. How is mobipush or emoze?
Kraize said:
Okay so I need to know which is better:
Seven?
eMoze?
Mobipush?
Emansio?
I currently use seven and don't like that it can't set times to push the data (say every hour). It just leaves a time on to push. Like a time period. How is mobipush or emoze?
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Be frank forget all above. there is 2 best option you can have.
1) get mail2web.com account: they offering free exchange service.( my opionen best for free only negative point.. the mails that you send hve the extension [email protected]
2) flexmail software:I think best email client but takes some memory. with that you can download you mail (gmail) IMAP and IDLE which is kinda pushmail. it take 1 minute to arrive on you device.
Bulldog said:
Be frank forget all above. there is 2 best option you can have.
1) get mail2web.com account: they offering free exchange service.( my opionen best for free only negative point.. the mails that you send hve the extension [email protected]
2) flexmail software:I think best email client but takes some memory. with that you can download you mail (gmail) IMAP and IDLE which is kinda pushmail. it take 1 minute to arrive on you device.
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Seriously? Why? I have a yahoo account. And I've been using SEVEN so far, and it gets my mail faster than my mail counter on my yahoo widgets can count.
Hello all,
I've now had my TP for almost 3 months and am truly loving it. As you might know, I was a TOTAL noob to WinMo, and in regards to some of the more advanced things, I still am.
This brings me to my topic:
I would like to know if Microsoft Outlook allows for "Push" e-mail on to the TP. If not, what recommended E-mail systems are out there that can push to the TP (i.e. gmail, hotmail, yahoo)?
I am currently using Comcast, and was considering going the Mail2Web route, but it seemed too confusing...I know, I'm a moron. (As for "Seven", I've heard it's not yet stable and it severly taxes the battery.) As such, if anybody who has had success with Mail2Web and the Touch Pro, would you mind posting (or PMing) "step-by-step" instructions on how you got it working?
In either case, I also ask the more experienced people if you can either tell me or direct me to a site which explains the whole concept of Outlook, Exchange, and other elements of Push e-mail.
Thank you in advance,
- WildAce786.
Try seven.com you'll love it.
DrzNight said:
Try seven.com you'll love it.
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LOL, I was just editing that into my OP.
I've heard it's not stable yet in that there is a delay in receiving E-mails and that it places a large drain on your battery.
WildAce786 said:
LOL, I was just editing that into my OP.
I've heard it's not stable yet in that there is a delay in receiving E-mails and that it places a large drain on your battery.
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Although it is still in a beta stage I don't think it unstable at all and emails at least for me being pushed from gmail come within 2 seconds. I can't disagree that it will take a toll on your battery but that's the price we pay for push email. If anyone has any other suggestions I'd also be glad to know.
WildAce786 said:
Hello all,
I've now had my TP for almost 3 months and am truly loving it. As you might know, I was a TOTAL noob to WinMo, and in regards to some of the more advanced things, I still am.
This brings me to my topic:
I would like to know if Microsoft Outlook allows for "Push" e-mail on to the TP. If not, what recommended E-mail systems are out there that can push to the TP (i.e. gmail, hotmail, yahoo)?
.... As such, if anybody who has had success with Mail2Web and the Touch Pro, would you mind posting (or PMing) "step-by-step" instructions on how you got it working?
In either case, I also ask the more experienced people if you can either tell me or direct me to a site which explains the whole concept of Outlook, Exchange, and other elements of Push e-mail.
Thank you in advance,
- WildAce786.
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I use Mail2Web. It's easy to setup, just go to Activesync and add a server and use:
[email protected] (as the username)
ur password
and skip the auto detect the server step and use:
mobile.exchange.mail2web.com (as the server)
**Note-I don't use mail2web as my email, I use gmail. And what I did was set my gmail account to foward to the mail2web account, so I get the emails pushed from both. However, the outgoing email address it shows, when I send a message is the mail2web account.
I've been using this for a while, and it works pretty good. I get email notifications pretty much instantly with this setup, and also syncs my contacts, calendar and tasks online for easy backing up
steb0ne said:
I use Mail2Web. It's easy to setup, just go to Activesync and add a server and use:
[email protected] (as the username)
ur password
and skip the auto detect the server step and use:
mobile.exchange.mail2web.com (as the server)
**Note-I don't use mail2web as my email, I use gmail. And what I did was set my gmail account to foward to the mail2web account, so I get the emails pushed from both. However, the outgoing email address it shows, when I send a message is the mail2web account.
I've been using this for a while, and it works pretty good. I get email notifications pretty much instantly with this setup, and also syncs my contacts, calendar and tasks online for easy backing up
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I would like to keep 3rd party sources as a second option.
First, I would like to know if Microsoft Outlook has the ability to Push E-mail to the TP without severly draining the battery.
Now, if that is not an option, then I would like some clarification on the Mail2Web process.
1) Do I need to register with mail2web first?
2) When you said
go to Activesync and add a server
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, where exactly is Activesync located and how can I go about adding a server to it?
I know I sound like a moron, but that's because in this matter, I am.
another option is EMOZE. Its a good alternative to seven if you just care about emails. it really dont do the contacts too well and calendar not at all. again good app if you just care about getting your gmail emails....
Well, after a lot of searching, I went ahead with steb0ne's idea of using Mail2Web LIVE. So far it works great, especially since I've set all my comcast e-mails to autoforward to the M2W account so I can receive them "instantly" as well.
I do have a few concerns though that maybe a few of you guys can address:
1) How does Direct Push actually work? Does it establish a connection every so often looking for new messages?
2) Generally speaking, how much battery life does it drain during the course of a normal 8-hour day if I keep Direct Push active in the Comm. Manager?
3) How good is M2W at keeping SPAM messages away?
I have used seven, mail2web, and the sprint mobile email app. I prefer mail2web over the others. The sprint app is based on the seven email program, but only allows for one email address.
With the seven program I have noticed a noticeable lag in receiving my email. I have sent an email to the an account, received in on my desktop and still dont get it for up to 10min on my phone. With Mail2web I usually get it on my phone before the computer, also the online system they use will save all of your contacts, calender so you can access it from your phone or computer, as well as have an easy backup if you lose your phone, or do a hard reset.
So if I use seven, which they and Sprint say my TP is not supported, does it still send from my email addy or some seven.com email?
for me its all but useless to just get email if I cant send it.
when i try to set up active sync i put details in , user pass server, there is a field "domain" which i cannot get past unless i put something in it , trying to use mobipush and their directions are to leave domain blank but if i do i cant progress on my screen the next button wont highlight, any ideas
Just downloaded and installed the new Touchdown update, that adds Push email.
I immediately paid for the license key after checking the program out.
Kickass App.
Not only does it give me push email for my exchange email, it also allows for multi-selecting emails for deletion.
Finally!!!.
Why Google couldn't have included this, is completely beyond me.
But when I evens ee what theme developers, as well as dxHome can do to chnage the look and feel of the phone, it seems to me that they did the bare minimum.
I still am hoping that future releases will see a much more smoother UI, and see some changes to add SOME eye candy to the Market and other pages.
As right now it's really quite drab and dreary.
Just like the original UI is very boring and bland.
I'm pretty certain the idea was, in fact, to do the bare minimum and then allow apps to extend the OS. It's good in thoery, but only once the apps start rolling in to fill the voids.
What I REALLY hope starts to happen is the ability to REMOVE stock apps once new ones start coming in. I already cant stand having both Mail and K9Mail, Messenging and K9SMS, COntacts and StarContact... that quickly bloats the app drawer and wastes memory.
Henchman said:
Just downloaded and installed the new Touchdown update, that adds Push email.
I immediately paid for the license key after checking the program out.
Kickass App.
Not only does it give me push email for my exchange email, it also allows for multi-selecting emails for deletion.
Finally!!!.
Why Google couldn't have included this, is completely beyond me.
But when I evens ee what theme developers, as well as dxHome can do to chnage the look and feel of the phone, it seems to me that they did the bare minimum.
I still am hoping that future releases will see a much more smoother UI, and see some changes to add SOME eye candy to the Market and other pages.
As right now it's really quite drab and dreary.
Just like the original UI is very boring and bland.
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I downloaded this over the weekend and tried to get it working with no luck. I tried both the 2007 and 2003 configuration, with and without it taking the server certificate. Both failed to work for me.
I wish I could get a working exchange software. Its the only thing missing from well almost from Android
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I downloaded this over the weekend and tried to get it working with no luck. I tried both the 2007 and 2003 configuration, with and without it taking the server certificate. Both failed to work for me.
I wish I could get a working exchange software. Its the only thing missing from well almost from Android
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I had a heck of a time getting it to work.
Untill I followed their PDF instructions to the letter.
And it worked immediatly.
Been using it since it was first released. Took me all of 3 minutes use to buy it back in November. I've been part of their beta program since then as well, and the 2.0 versions are just getting better and better.
I've been using it since initial release, then have been using beta builds, works great with pull and push for me. I'm on exchange 2003, support for the app is great, had few issues in early releases, worked with support and they resolved everything in no time.
overall great app, I've stopped using blackberry while ago.
How does the PUSH mail work
I have just installed the new version of Touchdown
it works perfectly, but how does the Push mail service work!!!
in a Blackberry the server updates the phone once a message arrives, but with touchdown no service is activated from the server, so how does the software do it??
Does it keep an internet connection open all the time? if so when my desktop is on and the message is downloaded directly to my Outlook, will it be able to get a copy before it is downloaded to my PC???
i have a limited data plan and that will make a big difference in my bytes consuption
Exchange Push and Touchdown
If you have not had push enabled previously, you will need to configure it from within you Exchange System Manager (Global Setting -> Mobile Services) and enable for your user account in the Active Directory Users and Computers App (Exchange Features - > Mobile Services). Once this is setup, you can follow the instruction provided by NitroDesk to validate and enable push support.
As messages are received by your exchange server, the server sends a message to your configured cellular providers messaging service - which basic sends a text message notification to your phone telling it that you have new mail on the server. The phone's email client then goes out to retrieve it. Operating this way avoids the need to have the email client continuously check the server for new email.
I hope this helps.
I currently have a problem with Touchdown inwhich the push services turn off soon after being enabled. Status goes from "Push Active" to "Push Off" on the main Touchdown screen. Does anyone have any words of wisdom?
Thx
jhales said:
I currently have a problem with Touchdown inwhich the push services turn off soon after being enabled. Status goes from "Push Active" to "Push Off" on the main Touchdown screen. Does anyone have any words of wisdom?
Thx
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I had the same problem. First check under connection that you have your full e-mail address written. Then under advanced re sync your folders and then under connection try again the active sync. If you don't get an error message when checking for active sync it should work.
do you need to have a static IP on your ISP end in order for this to work?
I'm running exchange server 2003 and want to test TouchDown and hopefully switch off my bb.
Thanks