Phone keeps changing time - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General

Wow, just let me start off by saying that sometimes I just feel like grabbing this phone and smashing it against a wall
Pheww, now that this is off my chest, here is my question :
My phone is set to time zone EST. Every other time, when it feels like it, it decides to switch the time to GMT London, Dublin - a good 4 hour difference.
I use my phone as an alarm clock and as some of you can imagine that can keep me in bed and miss work - not good. And no I don't want a real alarm clock
I'm currently using swtos' ROM and I had 1.93 also. Still the same problem.
I tried doing a search and came up with wrong timings only for received text message, which is also an issue I had but fixed.
Any ideas?

I am not sure what you experienced are same as mine or not. For my problem, every time i synchronise my devise with my laptop using activesync, it will automatically sync to my laptop time. My laptop time is 10 minutes faster. I have to manually change it back to the actual time after remove charging from my laptop.

I know when I first got my phone the time kept changing to Sydney time (daylight savings) where I'm in Brisbane.
This fixed it for me, don't know if this is the same issue though..
Settings > Phone > Time Zones > Untick "Automatic change time zones and clock"

upm15 said:
I am not sure what you experienced are same as mine or not. For my problem, every time i synchronise my devise with my laptop using activesync, it will automatically sync to my laptop time. My laptop time is 10 minutes faster. I have to manually change it back to the actual time after remove charging from my laptop.
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No, this is not related to active sync, it just seem to switch out to a different time zone. I just switched out ROMS and issue is still there.

IanKay said:
I know when I first got my phone the time kept changing to Sydney time (daylight savings) where I'm in Brisbane.
This fixed it for me, don't know if this is the same issue though..
Settings > Phone > Time Zones > Untick "Automatic change time zones and clock"
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I really hope this is the issue. Because it just did it again
I just switched daylight saving off - will report in a day or two. Thanks for the tio.

Well after switching off automatic time zone, the clock just reset itself back to London, Dublin time.
It seems to be switching only after 6PM - Any other ideas?

I have the same problem. I am on GMT+2 (Athens, Istanbul), and I choose this time zone. Pressing OK, and then again entering Time Zone Settings, it is changed to GMT+2 Windhoek. This is not the main problem (probably my provider did not set their settings, and sends me new settings).
Sometime (once in a 2 week period), time changes but not in full hour increment/decrement, but hours and minutes. This very morning, the alarm started at 7:15 (as it should). Few minutes later, I got up, switched on the phone and saw the right time: 7:23, but a second later it changed to 23:52 previous day. The time zone remained the same GMT+2 Windhoek.
This IS pretty annoying. Luckily, my wife has some old Nokia which works as supposed.

So I went into my IGO8 settings and I found that the time in there was set to London, Dublin time.
Not sure if this is the issue but I have now adjusted it to ET. I will report back in a while to give an update.

I used to have the same problem with my Hermes. I found that if I set the home and visiting time zones to the same time zone, it stopped changing.

^^
I really hope this the solution as my IGO8 settings didn't do the trick.

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Active Sync, Can it be held off?

I've applied the "Fake" server trick to activesync, I have email set for manual update. I'm finding active sync running almost anytime that I check task manager. I kill it, but something keeps invoking it. Does anyone have some pointers on figuring out who's calling up active sync or ways to hold it off?
EDIT - It can be stopped, see below, it's time zones!
I also tried the fake setup and I'm also getting ActiveSync coming back on.
One application that does call ActiveSync (for me anyway) is iGO GPS software. Haven't seen any other app. yet and no ActiveSync in the background for me.
On the other hand, i have (real) exchange server set on manually. I just have to remember to close ActiveSync after syncs.
After weeks of using my Kaiser and battling Active Sync, which would be running almost any time I checked task manager, I think I found my culprit!
There have been a few comments about the time mysteriously changing time zones and the clock being wrong. I had not seen this until a few days ago when suddenly and intermittently my phone would jump 1 hour ahead. I'm on the Pacific coast and it was jumping to mountain time.
Anyhow, I went into Start>Settings>Phone>Time Zones Tab and Un-Checked the "Auto change time zone and clock" box. No more time issues and oddly, no more over agressive active sync. I closed it yesterday and it's still off today, first time ever, even after a soft reset which always completed with active sync running.
I've had ActiveSync almost 'permanently' running and I too have tried the fake server trick. Trouble is i'm abroad on holiday and i'm sure it's connecting to the phone network to sync by it's self. This is going to cost me a small fortune in over-seas charges or is there a reason why my gprs should be counting up by it's own (with all the obvious possibilities taken care of)?
Activesync kills my kaiser... if i put the kaiser into the wall with the power adapter its fine. But if i leave it hooked up to the PC Active sync always loads and it seems like it sync's every few minutes. After about 3-4 hours the today screen will freeze eventually. Anyone have any fixes or a way to only launch active sync manually? I just turned off the sync time zones so maybe that was the culprit.
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"Anyhow, I went into Start>Settings>Phone>Time Zones Tab and Un-Checked the "Auto change time zone and clock" box. No more time issues and oddly, no more over agressive active sync. I closed it yesterday and it's still off today, first time ever, even after a soft reset which always completed with active sync running."
Winner winner chicken dinner!!
Man, that was really aggravating me. Thank you so much.
You can also fix it by disabling the notification replog.exe NOTIFICATION_EVENT_TIME_CHANGE.
RemE said:
After weeks of using my Kaiser and battling Active Sync, which would be running almost any time I checked task manager, I think I found my culprit!
There have been a few comments about the time mysteriously changing time zones and the clock being wrong. I had not seen this until a few days ago when suddenly and intermittently my phone would jump 1 hour ahead. I'm on the Pacific coast and it was jumping to mountain time.
Anyhow, I went into Start>Settings>Phone>Time Zones Tab and Un-Checked the "Auto change time zone and clock" box. No more time issues and oddly, no more over agressive active sync. I closed it yesterday and it's still off today, first time ever, even after a soft reset which always completed with active sync running.
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RemE will this effect me when I travel...I live in the Central Time Zone if travel west will doing this not change the clock to Pacific Time...if so, then there has got to be another culprit causing these time changes because when i look the notifications in MemMaid there are a ton of time changes, time zone changes....there is a bug somewhere that we have to find....
Yes, you'll just have to change the zone as you go, Start>Settings>Clock & Alarms "time" tab and set zone. If you go back and forth, set the visiting zone so that you can easily jump back and forth. Not much hasstle considering what it did before.
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You can also fix it by disabling the notification replog.exe NOTIFICATION_EVENT_TIME_CHANGE.
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What does this do exactly? and where is it located?
RemE said:
What does this do exactly? and where is it located?
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I use a program called MemMaid that will show you all notifications going on in your phone...there are other programs that will show this as well just not sure which ones...
apbtlvr said:
Winner winner chicken dinner!!
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ell oh ell!
eric b
RemE said:
What does this do exactly? and where is it located?
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DotFreds Task manager will show you the notifications and do a whole lot more. It's free and you can get it here - http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=1612
From the name of the notification I would say that it does exactly the same thing as unchecking the timezone thing, just doing it the hard way. I've known about doing it this way though for a lot longer cuz I used to do it on my wizard that way.

Automatic time zone change = acting like a beta

Hi all,
did anyone had a chance to try this new WM6 feature more than once ?
it looks like they quickly added this to the kaiser while it's not working properly yet :
I change country several times a day (airline pilot) and this automatic adjustment worked (almost!) only ONCE (the first time it entered a new country).
here is what happenned the first time this automatic adjustement almost worked :
Time in niamey is UTC+1 = same as time in dublin.
Arriving at niamey, automatic switching occurs and pda time is automatically set to utc+1 and a time zone of dublin (good!). Dublin has the same time of niamey right now because of its dst. So until now everything looks satisfactory.
The problem: Looking closer, i see my appointments times are on UTC time despite the pda time being set correctly (automatically) to utc+1 !
switching manually my time zone to another one,pressing ok button, and coming back to dublin time zone again (but this time manually) gives me the correct time in niamey (same as dublin) as did the automatic adjustment did, but now at least the appointments times on pda are also on utc+1 (niamey time ).
Since then , the pda (kaiser) never changed the time zone again, despite the automatic features being turned ON... it does looks as if i select manually a time zone in the clock setting. the automatic time zone adjustment won't "work" anymore, no matter if it's checked on or not... ("work" in quotation marks because it didn't work satisfactorily even once yet).
Anybody experiences this bug ?
One thing
You do know that when you change the time zone, appointment times automatically shift so that the actual time of the event in the new time zone matches the actual time in old time zone? In other words absolute appointment times are a function of the current time zone setting. If you want to enter an appointment for an event that will occur in another time zone you should switch that time zone first and then enter the appointment in the local time zone and time and then switch the time zone back to your current time zone. You will see that the time of the appointment is listed in your current time zone such that is will occur at the time you set if for IN THE OTHER time zone (and these two numbers representing the time are not the same!). Seems a bit odd but makes sense after some thought. There is really no way for the device to know what time zone an event is scheduled for.
BTW there has been some software written to alter this default behavior of WM but I am not sure it really helps. Just another convention. More info on google...
Your other problem sounds like it may be WM not recognizing a whether or not a particular region is on dst. Just speculation on this though. I have not traveled far with my device yet nor crossed a local dst date. Here are details on the recent changes to the dst system in the US and the MS patch for this: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/daylightsaving/default.mspx#connectto_exchange_server
I think it is a bug in WM6. I have had the same type of problem in Sydney, where instead of automatically recognising Sydney(Australia), it changes to Vladivostok....and like your example causes the appointments to move incorrectly.
Either the Radio ROM is not getting the timezone correctly off the network (unlikely because my Hermes which has different radio had same problem) - or more like, WM6 doesn't interpret the data it gets from the Radio correctly.
swamp2 said:
You do know that when you change the time zone, appointment times automatically shift so that the actual time of the event in the new time zone matches the actual time in old time zone?
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Yes I do know that, and it is very logical. I use pda around the world for a few years now so i know that
Maybe i didn't explain myself clearly, so i wil try again :
I'm in Paris and it's now 12am (noon) i have an appointment at 2pm (so appointment is IN TWO hours) with a reminder 1 hour before (1pm).
I suddenly got teleported (in less than a second ) to a country where the time is one hour less than in Paris. so in paris it's now still 12 am and in this new place : 11 am.
Well, what happened is that the Kaiser time is now showing 11 am (that s good),
but, You agree that the appointment time should be showing now 1pm (new time zone) with a reminder at noon.
BUT this is not what happened. The appointments got changed to noon, with the reminder at 11am (=now!, and that how i noticed the bug... the reminder displayed on the kaiser while it was supposed to do so only IN one hour).
in brief : the kaiser time changed correctly, but the appointments timing didn't follow and got changed to another time zone (displayed pda time + appointment timing are supposed to shift together to the same time zone as usual, but it didn't). Appointment was supposed to be in 2 hours, and after the automatic time zone change appointment is hapenning in 1 hour.
a manual reverting to paris time zone then back MANUALLY to this new time zone set correctly both the time AND the appointment time.
Hope it's clear now... i know all this stuff can be confusing

Daylight Savings Time BUG FINALLY Identified - Am I the ONLY one with this problem?

Shortly after DST went off, I realized that I had a problem, because all recurring and all-day appts were one hour off (making the all-day appts span 2 days), during March-October 2008, when DST will go back into effect.
After finding no answers anywhere, I discovered that UNCHECKING the TIMEZONE setting ("automatic change time zone and clock") under PHONE options, fixed the problem.
However, I LIKE the idea that my clock will adjust automatically based on the time zone I am in. When I was with Verizon, I hated that the phone wouldn't change automatically.
I can't be the ONLY one with this issue, can I?
Please suggest how to have my cake and eat it, too!
Is EVERYONE keeping the TIME ZONE option unchecked? Or does no one have any recurring/all day appts already set for April of '08? Would really appreciate some help with this.
P.S. Even though we have wm6 on the phone, I did the DST fix from Microsoft, as well as the "extra steps" (which involves going to the clock setting, change the time zone, exit out, go back in and change to correct time zone and exit out), which does take care of the issue...for a little while. I can have the TIME ZONE option checked and it works fine...but only for a little while. Always after a soft re-set, it loses the time zone reading and sometimes it just loses it after the phone sits idle for a while.
I was under the impression that we weren't supposed to apply the DST fix at all on WM6 for the Tilt/Kaiser. I applied it way back and had all sorts of issues.
I removed it and it's been fine ever since the DST switch.
After applying the "fix" and it not changing anything, I did a hard reset and left it alone.
Do you have the Time Zone option checked in Phone settings to automatically set the time zone and clock?
If you have the Time Zone option checked, would you do an experiment?
Make a weekly recurring timed event that starts BEFORE March 1 and ends AFTER November 15, 2008. Then, do a soft reset. Then, go to your calendar and see if the events after the 2nd Sunday in March and before the 1st Sunday in November are an hour off? That's what's happening with my calendar.
And post your results here? Thanks.
I found that the auto time zone setting in Phone settings causes more problems, Activesync auto launches constantly with this setting enabled as well as occasional time jumps (eg. from PST to Mountain Time for no reason).
With the time zone setting un-checked everything is very stable BUT my stock Kaiser did not change DST correctly. I have since applied the DST patch and will wait for the next time change to see what happens.

Time delay

My diamond time delays 1~2 minutes one day, does anybody have the same problem?
Same here. Have you found out what is wrong yet???
Same here, could be because I've unchecked the 'Automatic change time zone and clock' option on the Time Zones tab in the Phone Settings. Even so, my Diamond's internal clock seems to be lagging..
....no, I have checked this, but this is not the cause.....quite annoying..as I need to reset the time daily....:-(
Can anyone help???
I have the same issue as well. Time falls behind about 2/3 mins everyday
No, I have the Diamond for over 2 weeks now and the clock is accurate, same as my computer which is always sync with internet time. I haven't flashed any cooked ROM yet. Still on the Telstra stock ROM at present which I am quite happy, despite a bit bloated.
The problem have been resloved, we should select the 'Automatic change time zone and clock' option on the Time Zones tab in the Phone Settings.
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The problem have been resloved, we should select the 'Automatic change time zone and clock' option on the Time Zones tab in the Phone Settings.
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The 'Automatic change time zone and clock' does not resolve the problem. This has been discussed in a number of threads but so far the problem has not been rectified.
Isnt the clock synchronized with the PC automatically?
So.. if you just sync ur device from time to time, everything works out fine?
I'm again having this same problem. I'm using ROM 1.93.831.1 WWE with Radio 1.00.25.05.
I hope somebody can give some solution to this issue. It would very much appreciated. It's really quite annoying to adjust the time daily.

Clock always changing time randomly

Hey All, I've have recently flashed Touch-it V4 to my Xperia, but now the clock keeps on randomly changing the time on me. Usually puts it out by an hour, or sometimes 15mins. I've tried putting day light savings time on, selecting my city etc but still randomly changes the time on me.
Also noticed if I set my country, it will randomly change itself as well. Eg. set it to New Zealand, then go back and check and it will be on Fiji??
Anyone know how to fix this?
Is super annoying as messes up my alarms & appointments, nearly missed my flight the other day.
Cheers
Same problem here. Seems to be a TF3D bug. It doesn't seem to recognize daylight savings time. It keeps switching me to the "Bogota, Lima" timezone which is 1 hour behind my real timezone of Eastern Standard (US).
I'll have to use a different panel for now to keep my schedule/alarm on time, probably the SPB Mobile Shell.
Alternatively I could just use "Bogota, Lima" time and set it 1 hour ahead, but then every time I sync the phone, the time will be reset to 1 hour behind and throw my calendars off.
Yea is a right pain, fiddled round with it so much but still can't get it to work
uGo check your iGo?
I had that problem and found it was iGo set to an incorrect time zone, so each time I started the program it changed the time.
- Jeff
sammiebreezes said:
Hey All, I've have recently flashed Touch-it V4 to my Xperia, but now the clock keeps on randomly changing the time on me. Usually puts it out by an hour, or sometimes 15mins. I've tried putting day light savings time on, selecting my city etc but still randomly changes the time on me.
Also noticed if I set my country, it will randomly change itself as well. Eg. set it to New Zealand, then go back and check and it will be on Fiji??
Anyone know how to fix this?
Is super annoying as messes up my alarms & appointments, nearly missed my flight the other day.
Cheers
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I had this problem, it was so anoying with syncing
go to the "settings">select "phone">select the "time zone" tab, and untick automaticly change timezone or whatever.
I have a htc diamond, but should be similar/same as they both WM
dirran said:
I had this problem, it was so anoying with syncing
go to the "settings">select "phone">select the "time zone" tab, and untick automaticly change timezone or whatever.
I have a htc diamond, but should be similar/same as they both WM
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Thanks but mine was alredy unticked?
jbcross said:
I had that problem and found it was iGo set to an incorrect time zone, so each time I started the program it changed the time.
- Jeff
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Where do i find iGo ? Never heard of that
sammiebreezes said:
Thanks but mine was alredy unticked?
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try ticking the check mark...it worked for mee and then soft reset
I'm fairly certain it's a TF3D bug and whether or not that option is ticked won't make a difference. If you live in a time zone where they observe daylight savings, touching the time on the TF3D home tab will change your time zone to one that's 1 hour behind. If you go back into your clock settings and set it to the correct time zone, it'll be ok until the next time you press the clock in TF3D.
So the short term solution is to never press the time =)
SMS timestamp too
I'm using Touch-It 4.0 II.
I'm also experiencing my time shifting by an hour and that my system clock and alarm settings keeps resetting itself back to Bogota, Lima.
Also, my incoming text messages' timestamp is now always 5 hrs in the past.
Is the clock setting from Touchflo 3D supposed to be aligned with the system clock and alarm settings?
Got the same problem before. Able to fix it by making sure the time settings on my computer where i actively sync my phone are the same. That is time, date, time zone, and if DST settings are checked or not.
dgee said:
I'm using Touch-It 4.0 II.
I'm also experiencing my time shifting by an hour and that my system clock and alarm settings keeps resetting itself back to Bogota, Lima.
Also, my incoming text messages' timestamp is now always 5 hrs in the past.
Is the clock setting from Touchflo 3D supposed to be aligned with the system clock and alarm settings?
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Just noticed I get hte msn time stamp problem as well, really random though
ERWIN CENIZA said:
Got the same problem before. Able to fix it by making sure the time settings on my computer where i actively sync my phone are the same. That is time, date, time zone, and if DST settings are checked or not.
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Is def a problem with touchflow, flashed generic rom back & now phone is working fine again
+1 on this...
Time zone
I read somewhere that the reason text messages were coming in 5 hrs off was that the Rogers tower was doing its own 5 hr timezone offset on the messages so I ended up getting messages with a timestamp of 5 hrs ago. But I never experienced this problem on my Vox so I don't know. I haven't tried to reflash my ROM to a generic and receive text messages either.
Did anyone else notice this SMS timestamp problem only after flashing to a touchflo 3d rom?
Anyone know if this is fixed in touchflow ver 5? Never had the problem with v3
try not to run any navigation apps..i found out my garmin always changing my time every timr i start the apps..
I ad the same problem
In settings of my navigation (Polish AutoMapa) i can turn off synchronization of my time with gps. (sry 4 my english)

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