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With new roms and gps placing demands on battery life, I opted to look for an alternative. Performance hacks can only work so much before your battery dies out when you have an 1100 or 1500Mah battery. I found this battery on ebay from a store and decided to go for it and here's my findings so far....
The model number I'm testing is HLI-P6800SL and will cost you USD48.55
Here's the link in case you wanna check it out:http://www.mugenpowerbatterijen.nl/
Ebay:http://search.ebay.ca/search/search...=m37&satitle=mugen+power+batteries&category0=
*FIRST IMPRESSIONS*
1) Battery is exactly same size as the OEM, had no problems with fitting. Initially thought its increased capacity it would be make it a tighter fit, wasn't the case, PERFECT FIT!!!
2) Turned on my PPC without any hitches or glitches
3) Free shipping, makes this even sweeter...
4) Juicing it up, will fill you in with a much more detailed comparative analysis, my girlfriend is a true test of battery power
5) After some extended use, battery is still cool, haven't experienced any over-heating some users claim
*PRELIMINARY RESULTS*
Having spent a full 36 hrs with the battery...the results are encouraging to say the least. Do keep in mind that for Li-on cells to be fully functional, they need to go thru at least 3-5 full discharge-charge cycles and this is only the 1st cycle.
I followed the manufacturer's specifications about the initial 12 hour charge, also take into consideration that this test was conditioned, i.e. I dished out extra punishment, GPS ON for every trip, BT headset on for every call, backlight at 40% (which is pretty bright) and send/receive set at 5 minute intervals.
I consider myself a heavy-user during the day (less at night) with usage being split data and voice even. I receive approximately 40-60 emails a day (some with large attachments) and make out just about as many phone calls. So without much ado, here are my results...
Testing started 09:30 when I initially placed the battery 100% and ended 02:49 when it finally discharged 0% = 17hr 19m window. So in order to rate correctly and/or approximately I took the calculation values (credit hofo_mofo) of my 1500mah battery
Talk time (4.5 hr)
Current = Rating / Time
Current = 1500 mAh / 4.5 hr
Current = 333 mA
Standby (230hr)
Current = Rating / Time
Current = 1500 mAh / 230 hr
Current = 6.5mA
Run time based on my daily usage 09:30/100% -22:23/ 0% = 13hr 13min window
VERSUS 1800Mah
Talk Time = Rating / Current
Time = 1800 mAh / 333 mA
Time = 5.4hrs
Standby = Rating / Current
Time = 1800mAh / 6.5mA
Time = 277hrs
Theoretical 5.4 - 4.5/ 4.5 = 26% more power
vs.
Actual 17.19 - 13.13/ 13.13 = 31% increased capacity
I will be back to update my findings after 5 charge cycles and will note any increased or decreased performance, but for now very promising. If you use an 1100mah or any other type of battery, do the math and the numbers will pretty much tell you if it's a worthy purchase or not. I am not in any way recommending you purchase this battery, just sharing my findings. So until then....
Disclaimer this is by NO means a scientific test and results may not be typical
How about a URL and a price?
Interested in your results...
Cruisind00d said:
Interested in your results...
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co-signing thisssssss.....................
Also very interested... My Mogul came with a 1500 battery so the 1650 is a waste of time... but 1800 may be worth it.
I have the seidio 3200mAh battery
Have had it for about a month now. The thing really does perform. I use my phone all day long and rarely go below 70% it's great.
Now, if only Seidio would make the rubberized case for the extended battery things would be better.
were do u get the 3200mah battery n how much did it set u back
Seidio. I mentioned the NAME of the battery as in the name of the company. They MAKE the battery and sell it.
http://www.mugenpowerbatterijen.nl/pda_htc.html
3600
at the bottom.
Very nice review of this battery. Most of the time people just say, "it lasted a day and a half instead of half a day," as if that is any real indication of how the battery performed. You were very specific on how you use your phone and gave an analysis of your results.
They may not be entirely accurate ( due to the every day changes in your usage between the 1800 battery and original batt. ), but I still want to give you props for a decent review.
Suggestion:
Test the 1800 vs Orig using a stopwatch program and gsplayer like here:
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/vbar...gen-extended-battery-for-the-ipaq-2200-series
That way you will get a more precise comparison.
But again, good review of the battery, you were above par on that one .
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Have had it for about a month now. The thing really does perform. I use my phone all day long and rarely go below 70% it's great.
Now, if only Seidio would make the rubberized case for the extended battery things would be better.
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how much depth/thickness does that battery add? will it still fit in the stock leather holster?
It added a lot of thickness to the phone exact number I'd check the Seidio site, and no, it won't fit the stock case any more
i bought a mugen extended (fat) battery for the htc tytn ii a few weeks ago and it's performance is a bit strange. while it does add plenty of power to the device, battery drains at normal rate until 14%. then it stays at 14% for a long time before it starts to go down.
so while the battery is useful, the device won't accurately display the remaining battery life. is this the case with this 1800mah mogul bat?
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i bought a mugen extended (fat) battery for the htc tytn ii a few weeks ago and it's performance is a bit strange. while it does add plenty of power to the device, battery drains at normal rate until 14%. then it stays at 14% for a long time before it starts to go down.
so while the battery is useful, the device won't accurately display the remaining battery life. is this the case with this 1800mah mogul bat?
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Its actually quite accurate, it doesn't hang like my oem battery. I thought it was somewhat the same after the first time when it hung around 10% for more than an hour or so, then it dropped to 5%. I think when the power is that low, it drops in multiples of 5... just a thought.
Will confirm/disprove when my battery is low, come to think of it I've never seen my original battery at 8% either
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*PRELIMINARY RESULTS*
Having spent a full 36 hrs with the battery...the results are encouraging to say the least. Do keep in mind that for Li-on cells to be fully functional, they need to go thru at least 3-5 full discharge-charge cycles and this is only the 1st cycle.
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That's not Li-Ion that's for the old Nickel_MH or cadium batteries
you should never completely discharge Li-ion battery as that will damage them a bit. In fact there's people arguing you should keep your Li-ion battery as high a charge as often as possible.
Defective battery? Mogul LED blinking Red with Mugen 1800mAh
I ordered the Mugen HLI-6800SL 1800mAh standard-sized battery from www.lionbattery.com last week and got it this past Saturday. I put it in my Mogul and proceeded to charge it as per the directions (i.e. in the phone, not on a cradle, with the OEM AC adaptor). After 12 hours, I tried powering up the phone but nothing happens. Furthermore, once I tried plugging in the AC adapter into the Mogul with the battery installed, I get a blinking red LED light.
I emailed lionbattery.com about a replacement. Is this anything I can fix?
Thanks!
symptoms of a discharged battery or a battery about to discharge (end of life cycle). Best action plan at this point is to return it, here's hoping you kept the original receipt, keep me posted how it goes...
So far haven't had any problems, still outperforming my original battery. Will be back to finish my review of the battery in the next 2-3 days
What I'd like to know is who makes hard cases for these? I have a mogul and no one makes a hard case for the sliding keyboard to be functional as well. What i mean is for an extended battery for the mogul and a hard case like the seidio one (thanks seidio for dropping the ball completely on this one).
I bought that 1800MaH battery today. Also bought this: http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Black-Alumi...15036QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262
I had a case like that for my Axim, it was awesome. I really dont care that you cant use the touchscreen or keyboard without opening it, I need something rugged and with a high enough ridge buttons dont get pressed. Poor phone rides around in the center console of a Jeep all day long.
I'll post pictures and a little review once I get the items. I also have a good 2400 Mah battery and door I recently got, if anyone wants it I'll ship it in the US for $20. It's 4mm too thick, comes with back door.
Still impressed? The battery is currently out of stock at LionBattery.com
Just started using a mugen power extended battery and am getting a lot more use out of the handset, haven't cycled it the recommended 5 times either, so expecting a little more juice as time goes on!Recommended!
Hi judd5000
Good to hear !
I have ordered the 1800 mAh battery from Mugen, hope it will arrive soon.
As soon as I get it performing properly after the correct cycles, I will post my feedback along with phone settings used.
cyb0tr0n
i hope this battery would fix the problem of original battery
I got mine yesterday - even the residual power in it got me through a whole night with GPS on and two email accounts checking once an hour. So far today after first full charge the battery has dropped a little since this morning but is still at about 80% and has been so for at least 2 hours. This is with light to medium use, though I did go out for an hour or so and had to switch from wi-fi to 3G, and I live in a terrible signal area that kills batteries, so so far I'm impressed. If it improves even more with a few more conditioning cycles I think 2 days will be within reach.
Also, and why this would be I have no idea, I seem to have a slightly better signal reception too. This is probably coincidence though, so don't take too much notice of it!
Is this the same size as the original battery or is it bigger? If so do you need a new back cover?
mb76 said:
Is this the same size as the original battery or is it bigger? If so do you need a new back cover?
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exactly the same size
Got just over 30 hours from mine today with light to moderate use, mainly on WiFi but in a bad signal area. And that's just the first charge/discharge cycle so there's more to come. Impressed!
OK, final verdict - the Mugen 1800 mAh battery is much better than the 1300 mAh stock battery and well worth the investment. Once properly conditioned, 24 hours with moderate to heavy use was easily done (GPS on, 2 email accounts on hourly check, an hour or so of newsgroup reading, 1/2 an hour of gaming, an hour or so of web browsing, 1/2 an hour or so on the marketplace, a fair bit of texting and a 20-min phone call in a bad signal area). With fairly light use (email accounts on manual, a few texts, just the occasional 5-min check of Twitter/Facebook and brief web browsing), I've managed over 40 hours and I suspect 2 days is well within possible - I tend to leave GPS on out of habit and have brightness on auto. Knock the GPS off and have brightness on low and that'd save a bit more again.
Obviously having a smartphone you don't use a lot of the functions of isn't ideal, but if you go away for a long weekend and forget your charger, it's good to know you can make it through (if you have the right battery!).
just ordered one.
How much is it?
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I bought a 2430mah Battery and han have everything turned on all day. Heavy usage equals 15-20 hours of Battery life. Will update name... I paid 22gbp british currency. http://www.ebay.com/itm/13054206017...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_2154wt_1113
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where can I get one of these from in the uk do you know?
Ebay
metalgearslug said:
where can I get one of these from in the uk do you know?
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As I wrote before... it worked wonders for me:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/13054206017...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_2154wt_1113
I should mention that charging time is long... I recon at least 2 hrs for from 0% to 100%.
Is there a way to get a performance comparison between the Mugen battery and this GOLD 2430MAH Japanese one? Thanks
2430mah? so almost DOUBLE the capacity of the original battery, but the same size?!
That's actually physically impossible. If you're lucky this fake "Gold" battery is 1600-1800mah.
50% better than original...
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Is there a way to get a performance comparison between the Mugen battery and this GOLD 2430MAH Japanese one? Thanks
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My 2430mAh is no match for a two day mugen, but still quite a bit better than the original. In my case appx 50%.
you're probably right
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2430mah? so almost DOUBLE the capacity of the original battery, but the same size?!
That's actually physically impossible. If you're lucky this fake "Gold" battery is 1600-1800mah.
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guess you're right, but now I have a Battery that laste a full day.
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guess you're right, but now I have a Battery that laste a full day.
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with the mugen i can do 1.5 or 2 fully days
I am afraid all these batteries are produced in Asia, Mugen included. If we assume the Japanese one is truly Japanese, perhaps this latter is better, but I doubt it, due to its unrealistic capacity.
Given the obvious environmental concerns related to the manufacture of batteries in China, I certainly prefer to wait until some good alternative is provided by a German company (usually very efficient in these jobs). ATM there's nothing convincing on ebay and amazon.
If you are in Europe this involves in addition having batteries shipped within the EC and no extra customs' costs!
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I am afraid all these batteries are produced in Asia, Mugen included. If we assume the Japanese one is truly Japanese, perhaps this latter is better, but I doubt it, due to its unrealistic capacity.
Given the obvious environmental concerns related to the manufacture of batteries in China, I certainly prefer to wait until some good alternative is provided by a German company (usually very efficient in these jobs). ATM there's nothing convincing on ebay and amazon.
If you are in Europe this involves in addition having batteries shipped within the EC and no extra customs' costs!
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Just take some research,u will find That mugen is the biggest manufacturer of battery
& every stock battery is from china because all the company build them there for Save money
so if u wait for an european battery well good luck ^^
Just keep in Mind to not buy a batterry on eBay,it can be dangerous
Hi guys !
I found this:
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f...1/05/0502/05020127/05020127bluestone001_a.jpg
http://cgi.ebay.fr/New-2300mAh-High...063860?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3cbb478374
The vendor seems to be ok, but the price looks like a joke...
Am i going to be the most happy HD owner or loose 10€ ?
Does anybody try this ?:
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Hi guys !
I found this:
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f...1/05/0502/05020127/05020127bluestone001_a.jpg
http://cgi.ebay.fr/New-2300mAh-High...063860?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3cbb478374
The vendor seems to be ok, but the price looks like a joke...
Am i going to be the most happy HD owner or loose 10€ ?
Does anybody try this ?:
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Good find, but I am quite sure it wouldnt give actual 2300mAh. But still, for that price I wonder how much improvement it actually has over stock. I remember the 1600 mAh at best gave about 1400 mAh or there abouts. I would not mind if this gives even slightly more than 50% of the stated capacity. Please let us know if anyone has tested this.
Hell, I'm getting paid in 2 days, and sending my HD2 to repair then, when I get it back, I will buy this battery and review it for you guys.
Though I doubt it's more than 1400mAh, but what the hell.. 13€.
I want to try this out just got a question first, hopefully you guys will know
Do not use inferior charger to recharge this battery in case of damaging the battery.
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Does that mean I have to get another charger or is the stock HD2 charger sufficient?
Bull****.
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this won't have more than original battery.
the andida one is also very good with the same capacity as original and it costs only around 7$. i use mine for almost a year now and it's still good.
rauschkugl said:
this won't have more than original battery.
the andida one is also very good with the same capacity as original and it costs only around 7$. i use mine for almost a year now and it's still good.
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Define good
My battery lasts me about 8-12 hours of moderate use, and 4-6 of heavy use/no service use
I would call that good for what my phone can do, but of course I'd like better
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I want to try this out just got a question first, hopefully you guys will know
Does that mean I have to get another charger or is the stock HD2 charger sufficient?
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What that probably means is this battery has a very poor charge control circuit/temp sensor.
For cheap good batteries try the well tested brands: Andida & Momax .
Andida & Momax represent good quality for the money. I have used Andida & they have been as good as original. Just purchased a Momax for HD2 while in Hong Kong as read good remarks in posts here at XDA ... Buying cheap unknown junk from ebay with obvious overstated product details is just stupid, do not support these idiots by buying there useless low quality junk that they call products.
The feedback from crimebay mugs:
Evaluations neutres Does not last long , even after several chargings
Evaluations neutres standard battery time nothing special .
Evaluations neutres Battery capacity/life poor. Second battery the same. mAh less than stated!
Evaluations neutres never arrives the battery
Evaluations neutres the battery lasts less than 1000 mah
Evaluations neutres one battery didn't work
Evaluations négatives It was damaged to repair. broken batteries destroyed.
Evaluations négatives The battery offers far less then the offered capacity!!!
Evaluations négatives the battery is not even 1150mah
eBay should be prosecuted for its roll in enabling a trading platform for fake & fraudulent spec products ...
Mister B said:
What that probably means is this battery has a very poor charge control circuit/temp sensor.
For cheap good batteries try the well tested brands: Andida & Momax .
Andida & Momax represent good quality for the money. I have used Andida & they have been as good as original. Just purchased a Momax for HD2 while in Hong Kong as read good remarks in posts here at XDA ... Buying cheap unknown junk from ebay with obvious overstated product details is just stupid, do not support these idiots by buying there useless low quality junk that they call products.
The feedback from crimebay mugs:
Evaluations neutres Does not last long , even after several chargings
Evaluations neutres standard battery time nothing special .
Evaluations neutres Battery capacity/life poor. Second battery the same. mAh less than stated!
Evaluations neutres never arrives the battery
Evaluations neutres the battery lasts less than 1000 mah
Evaluations neutres one battery didn't work
Evaluations négatives It was damaged to repair. broken batteries destroyed.
Evaluations négatives The battery offers far less then the offered capacity!!!
Evaluations négatives the battery is not even 1150mah
eBay should be prosecuted for its roll in enabling a trading platform for fake & fraudulent spec products ...
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i will not believe to comments on ebay. i ordered mine few days ago and i will leave a feedback here.
hi there, well i m looking for a better battery, mine s getting low quickly.
i just bought this one on ebay after reading this post. I ll give you my opinion at reception
hope it will be fine...
Heres a Momax on eBay with world shipping included:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Momax-X-L...835895?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item20bbed2af7
I purchased a momax in HK to test, in my opinion the X-level performs same as my HD2 Andida ... Bonus with Momax is they do not Bull**** on capacity & you can feel confident cell quality & charge protection circuitry is adequate too.
Andida was the best cheap budget battery & well tested within XDA community.
I purchased Andida direct in HK for around $7 US & they are working fine.
A colleage purchased an Andida for his old Topaz via ebay seller snow9white. Total price with shipping was $9.45 US & he has been very happy with the battery over the last 6 months of use ...
Will try to check it out next week!
I receive mine
So,
First, surprise to find my batterie today...
Another surprise, the weight is like the original, maybe more heavy...
(i'll try to find a digital balance)
Third,surprise she work, and more than a quarter...
So i'll put her in my phone a 4PM and it's work fine for now...
I'll keep you inform !
Sorry formy bad English
New batteries tend to have better standby time, even the one has less capacity.
So try draining your battery by watching YouTube or some intensive gaming, it should tell the difference.
AloneInTheDarK said:
So,
First, surprise to find my batterie today...
Another surprise, the weight is like the original, maybe more heavy...
(i'll try to find a digital balance)
Third,surprise she work, and more than a quarter...
So i'll put her in my phone a 4PM and it's work fine for now...
I'll keep you inform !
Sorry formy bad English
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sofiz.co.uk said:
New batteries tend to have better standby time, even the one has less capacity.
So try draining your battery by watching YouTube or some intensive gaming, it should tell the difference.
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Better yet, drain it by let running Netflix for a whole movie and that should kill it fast enough.
So is there such a thing as a larger mah cell at the standard thickness at any price or are they all the same?
FYI, I bought this battery (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Extended-30...Accessories&hash=item3a65fb4a24#ht_1885wt_952) which claims to be a 3000mAh.
I have used it for a while (2 weeks), and have to say that I am quite pleased with it. With 3g, wifi and auto-brightness on, I managed to get 32 hours of usage. This includes talking on the phone for 2 hours+, browsing on net 2 hours and 30 minutes of listening to music. I think it is more like 2000mAh. Certainly much longer than the original.
I am using Dorimanx's ROM, OC and UV, screebl and juice defender beta. Hope this helps others to make an informed purchase. Got his for less than USD10 including shipping. My best deal yet.
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So is there such a thing as a larger mah cell at the standard thickness at any price or are they all the same?
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Almost all are the same at standard size.
Li-ion technology can not physically pack much more capacity into a cell of the HD2 size.
Mugen produced a standard sized cell at around 1500Mah & that was the best they could manage using quality cells & construction.
Claims of 1600, 1700 or even 2000+Mah of the magical Gold Business batteries are simply bull**** & fraudulent in an attempt to rob you of some cash for rubbish goods.
Best options for budget is Andida & Momax x-level, x-level may give about 5% more, Andida is about same as new original. Mugen may be an option if you don't mind paying high prices, around $39 US if still available.
Feipusi is another brand seen around Asia Pacific area, they rate at 1600Mah for standard size HD2 replacement but reality is standard Mah but quality is ok for less than $10 battery.
If you need double capacity you will need a cell almost double in size too, that's the reality so don't be fooled by these sellers marketing tactics.
There's one available from Lenmar having 1230mAh capacity for HD2 available for about $20...
I think it should be good as Lenmar is a good company
erlern said:
FYI, I bought this battery (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Extended-30...Accessories&hash=item3a65fb4a24#ht_1885wt_952) which claims to be a 3000mAh.
I have used it for a while (2 weeks), and have to say that I am quite pleased with it. With 3g, wifi and auto-brightness on, I managed to get 32 hours of usage. This includes talking on the phone for 2 hours+, browsing on net 2 hours and 30 minutes of listening to music. I think it is more like 2000mAh. Certainly much longer than the original.
I am using Dorimanx's ROM, OC and UV, screebl and juice defender beta. Hope this helps others to make an informed purchase. Got his for less than USD10 including shipping. My best deal yet.
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Open that battery and you will find in there a 1,200mah battery and some foam to fill the empty space inside the big housing. I seen this before with cell phone batteries and even Sony PSP batteries sold on Ebay.
It's a shame those Chinese guys manufacture fake and less than advertised charging capacity.
BTW- I have that battery and the charge is not that great, gave it to my 13yrs son so he can play with this HD2.
Has anyone tried this GOLD 2430MAH BUSINESS BATTERY FOR DELL STREAK MINI 5 battery here? (Just check it out on ebay, i can't link it because i'm a new user)
Wondering if its worth getting it or if I should just get a cheaper pack with a charger and 3x 1800mAh batteries? Mainly looking for an extra battery to take with me on long car trips so I can use the phone more like a tablet, but I wouldn't hate having a longer lasting battery for daily use either and then using the stock battery as my extra.
Parasitic said:
Has anyone tried this GOLD 2430MAH BUSINESS BATTERY FOR DELL STREAK MINI 5 battery here? (Just check it out on ebay, i can't link it because i'm a new user)
Wondering if its worth getting it or if I should just get a cheaper pack with a charger and 3x 1800mAh batteries? Mainly looking for an extra battery to take with me on long car trips so I can use the phone more like a tablet, but I wouldn't hate having a longer lasting battery for daily use either and then using the stock battery as my extra.
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this looks interesting..one thing good about it , is that is the same size as the original dell battery.
I think its a fake capacity, the largest capacity that fits as standard size offered by a decent battery manufacturer, Mugen Power is 1800mah, and if you read the threads here, there is a 2400mah extended battery that has to use a custom battery cover because the battery is twice the depth of the standard battery.
So, i think you will find its not really a 2430mah battery, but a 1800mah battery at best.
if it seems too good to be true...
The best bet is to get one of those external battery packs with 3000-6000mah and a spare cable.
Also be agressive in your control of screen brightness and data use
If you read the feedbacks of that seller on eBay. There are heaps of negative feedbacks from buyers calling him a CON.
I bought off amazon since it had to be shipped to India... think there was only 1 seller in Amazon and he seems genuine.
There's a point with batteries where to make them any more powerful you must make them bigger. If fitting 2430ma into an 1800ma package was possible Mugen would have done it, so yes the rating is a lie.
REF: Gold Battery 2430mAh on eBay...
Total fake and ripoff!! ...so dont be wasting your money...
Here, read "all about it" from my experience in another parallel forae - "conclusion" after testing, on post #21: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305779
Parasitic said:
Has anyone tried this GOLD 2430MAH BUSINESS BATTERY FOR DELL STREAK MINI 5 battery here? (Just check it out on ebay, i can't link it because i'm a new user)
Wondering if its worth getting it or if I should just get a cheaper pack with a charger and 3x 1800mAh batteries? Mainly looking for an extra battery to take with me on long car trips so I can use the phone more like a tablet, but I wouldn't hate having a longer lasting battery for daily use either and then using the stock battery as my extra.
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Sorry. Thought you asked for the regular 2400mah.
hi, i bought this battery 2 mounth ago and my phone authonomy is double now. so dont coment if you dodnt try!
Do dell sell them?
Probably a con, but what the heck… I just purchased it. If it’s not 'as stated', I’ll report the bugger.
could keep us posted about this, i looked at the seller's feedback and seems it is fake but wondering if that is true.
The Americans have a saying "You can't put a quart in a pint pot" and that applies to battery power as well. Don't waste your money.
Irritatingly, battery capacity is only shown on the battery itself and not in the device’s battery info. So, is it really 2430mah? Don’t know. But there IS a difference. The 1530mah stock battery ran out of juice alarmingly quickly – like falling off a cliff - when at 30-40%, yet ‘Business Battery’ allows heavy use (downloads, browsing, video… etc) right down to single digits. So now I can use Streak much more (I’d say several hours more of constant use) when battery level is below 50% without worrying if it’s going to suddenly die on me. No gain between 100-50%, though.
I was prepared to slag this off, but from my experience it’s genuinely longer-lasting, especially at low battery levels. How long the battery itself will last only time will tell.
I’m not prepared to test it against Mugen’s 1800mah and spend near 30 quid (plus £18 p&p) in the process.
I've read elsewhere that the cheap Chinese batteries often don't report the available power in as many steps as a 'proper' one does, so they appear to fall slower.
I don't know how old your Dell battery is but it might not be as good as it used to be when new.
Yep, I had to replace the Dell battery (after about 10 months use) because over the past week it became completely unstable – dropping to 70% after 30min use, suddenly back up to 95%, and plummeting from then on. But the stock battery right from the start was always weakest when two-thirds empty, and it drained juice even on standby. Last night it was 100% or ‘fully charged’ for over 3 hours (mostly on standby and some light doc editing)… that had never happened before.
The thing is actually stamped ‘made in Japan’… aren’t Japanese products supposed to be expensive? Looks suspect, but whatever. If it becomes unstable after a month or two then sure, I’ll invest in a nice new Mugen or Dell replacement. But as of now I’m fairly content with a £13 Ecell batt.
Got one of these last week, & have put it through a few recharge cycles etc, unfortunately, it's no better than the stock battery
Oh well, it was worth a try..
As with all cheap batteries it has a short life - no more than 2 or 3 months before it starts to rapidly drain. As a temporary and inexpensive solution it's fine, but don’t expect long-lasting quality.
Disclaimer: I know there is already another thread on Mugen HD2 Extended Battery 2,600mAh, but I would like to state that this is an official review since Mugen has provided me with a review unit to debunk the many bad comments given concerning their battery quality. This you can read from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1294124.
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I have contacted www.mugen-power-batteries.com directly after hearing many comments concerning their false claims. I was surprised that they actually responded by providing me a review unit of the 2,600mAh. It is now on the way.
My review unit will be coming in about 2 weeks time. I will try to conduct an extensive review to determine the actual worth of the battery and whether they work as advertised. I will be conducting a few tests specifically on the battery, as objectively as possible. This would cover video playing, 3G usage, full valuation of the battery charge (using battery widget pro) to name a few.
If you would like a particular test to be conducted on the battery, please state and give a few ideas below. I will be comparing them against the original 1,230mAh from HTC.
I think as faithful users of our HTC HD2, I would really want to get the best extended battery. If this provides even 90% of the advertised capacity, it is already worth the money. Anything less would be pointless.
Thank you.
Larger cell will indeed be good but 2600mAh will be higher than reality as Mugen have admitted this already in a round about way on responses to another testers results.
A new standard HTC cell & new standard size 1500mAh Mugen is the test that needs to be done.
Any chance of a sample 1500mAh review unit ?
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Larger cell will indeed be good but 2600mAh will be higher than reality as Mugen have admitted this already in a round about way on responses to another testers results.
A new standard HTC cell & new standard size 1500mAh Mugen is the test that needs to be done.
Any chance of a sample 1500mAh review unit ?
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I will try to get a 1,500mAh review unit after this one is done Oh, have Mugen admitted to that? Would be good if you can provide me with the link. Thanks!
Cant Wait for the review
Im Planning on getting one myself a 2,600mAh
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erlern said:
I will try to get a 1,500mAh review unit after this one is done Oh, have Mugen admitted to that? Would be good if you can provide me with the link. Thanks!
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This was response to Dougs battery testing.
Not in any way slating Mugen but the mAh ratings marked on their cells are higher than what would be achieved in any lab test.
1500mah is the one I would love to see tested side by side with genuine cell in device & technician mAh testing.
Mugen cells are ok quality but for the asking price we need total transparency on actual cell capacity ...
I have no idea how good that battery is, but I bought this one about 6 months ago and it's working very well, doesn't gain much heat and it doesn't discharge itself much. Average battery consumption in standby is 6mA. All I can do is recommend you guys this one. And cover is really strong. And it's "bit" cheaper than Mugens
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looking forward to seeing your test results...i just got me a 2400mAh battery and it lasts me about 15hours under heavy use...
Hi guys,
Sorry for the silence... I just received the battery today! Give me some time to get it charged and conditioned for testing
Let me know what else you would like me to test it with.
Display use is interesting for me, such like browsing etc.
Open a browser with some ads or something and look how long the Battery live..
My Galaxy SII gets there 4,5h.
Start the Match
Idc really care about that battery. I know its fake, but is there any real battery that's better then the original stock? 1400, 1450, 1500?? Not the fat ones with the kickstand
Just an update, I am still conditioning the battery. The first charge/recharge was really pathetic, at 12 hours before it was flat (moderate-heavy use). The second charge/recharge is much improved, I am on 25 hours on (moderate use) with 25% left (taking pictures, listening to music, games, surfing, etc.). I will begin formal testing after 4 full runs to find the optimum condition.
One things I have to say is that the ROM does play a high factor. I was on Dorimanx 3.0 and somehow the governors for oc/uc is not working properly as I kept getting some high drainage. Once I reverted to 2.9, the drainage was gone and it seems to sip battery at a much, much lower rate.
So many factors!!!!
By the way, I really like the battery cover. It is not cheap like the other China made products (unlabelled). I have already 4 different covers, and while I would prefer a metal back cover, this is the 2nd best
Can You please also start the heavy display usage test?
And put some pics please
Greetings
erlern said:
Just an update, I am still conditioning the battery. The first charge/recharge was really pathetic, at 12 hours before it was flat (moderate-heavy use). The second charge/recharge is much improved, I am on 25 hours on (moderate use) with 25% left (taking pictures, listening to music, games, surfing, etc.). I will begin formal testing after 4 full runs to find the optimum condition.
One things I have to say is that the ROM does play a high factor. I was on Dorimanx 3.0 and somehow the governors for oc/uc is not working properly as I kept getting some high drainage. Once I reverted to 2.9, the drainage was gone and it seems to sip battery at a much, much lower rate.
So many factors!!!!
By the way, I really like the battery cover. It is not cheap like the other China made products (unlabelled). I have already 4 different covers, and while I would prefer a metal back cover, this is the 2nd best
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I have a few questions which i hope you dont mind answering:-
1. How did you recondition the battery?
2. Does your kernel recognise the battery's full capacity or do you do a battery pull then it jumps back up significantly? Im facing this problem at the moment...
thank you in advance!
how long will the battery last for heavy use like playing 3d games?this is important as i use my phone for gaming most
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I have a few questions which i hope you dont mind answering:-
1. How did you recondition the battery?
2. Does your kernel recognise the battery's full capacity or do you do a battery pull then it jumps back up significantly? Im facing this problem at the moment...
thank you in advance!
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1) I conditioning it by charging it overnight for 6-8 hours and then depleting it until it powers off (Actually, this is based on the instructions they gave in the parcel). I need to do it 5 times. Once done, I will be able to charge and stop charging when the indicator hits 100%. I basically use Battery Widget Pro (they have a feature called 'calibration'). Apparently, the battery itself states that it is 2,300mAh, but I think this is not accurate (hence the testing). You will know that the battery is fully charge when the indicator goes down to 0 (zero) mA (shows that the battery is not receiving any more charge).
2) Most cheap batteries have wrong indicators (e.g. temperature detection is not working, no indication of battery capacity). And yes, they suffer the need to 'pull the battery out first' before an additional amount is given. I bought one a while back, apparently one that has 3,000mAh. My observation is that the indicators are really gone. In fact, it will slowly go down to 50%, after which if you pull, it will give you 70%, once it goes down to 15%, it will last for a long while (30 minutes of browsing over 3G) before going down to 14%. Using that battery, I have been able to last 31 hours of moderate use (1 hour of music, 1 hour of gaming - not 3D, a few hours of browsing and a lot of photo taking). It costs only USD12 (thereabouts), which to me is the best deal yet. Down side of that battery is the very poor back battery cover. Using Battery Widget Pro (you have to charge fully and discharge until it shuts down and charge up again continuously), I got an estimated charge capacity of 1900mAh. Not bad don't you think?
The Mugen 2,600mAh easily matches my fake 3,000mAh one. The question is by how much. Sorry for the delay but my HD2 is my daily phone. So, I cant conduct full test like Engadget and other websites. But I'll do my best
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Idc really care about that battery. I know its fake, but is there any real battery that's better then the original stock? 1400, 1450, 1500?? Not the fat ones with the kickstand
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Try Andida batteries. I had the 1600mAh one and it was slightly better than the original (giving me about 1300mAh). I had that a while back.
After much charging and recharging, I can confirm that the battery has about 2,200+mAh. See the attached images to see the estimated calculation using Battery Widget Pro.
Charging takes about 2 hours plus using the wall charger. The last 2% takes the longest.
As per request I ran 2 emulation apps (sorry, no 3d games), fpse & n64oid. The former ran Strider 2 while the latter ran Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. Do note that I have overclocked my phone to 1.6ghz. All in all, it ran for 4.5 hours with 15% battery left. I'm pretty sure it could have clocked 5hours easily. I think that it is a good performance for 2.2kmAh battery don't you think? See the images below for a read of what other apps I was running. I managed to deplete the whole charge after nearly 10 hours of extremely heavy usage!
What do you guys think? Okay?
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[Not the Mugen 2,600mAh Battery]
As an aside, I took and strip out the cheap battery which I bought for USD10, which claimed a 3000mAh, which only was about 2000mAh (+/- 200mAh) and took some photos of it. I can understand these extended batteries better. I am not an electronics person, but this would explain why it takes a restart to 'recognise' the 'remaining' battery on our devices.
Notice that they are basically two lower capacity batteries which are slapped together with the thin connectors and wrapped together with scotch tape.
I am not sure whether Mugen's the same, since it does not suffer from the 'restart-phone-to-get-additional-battery-reflected' scenario. However, I wonder whether there are any manufacturers who would just manufacture a genuine 2000mAh without merely slapping two products together (like in this picture). In light of this, it is much better to carry an external battery charger (anything more than 6,000mAh around!).
Anyone with electronic expertise want to comment on the pictures, please do.
Opps, forgot to add the photos of the battery and the battery cover which I mentioned. I find that after the first fall (yes, I tend to have accidents with my HD2 ... ) there is a slight creeking sound with the battery cover (nothing is chipped though). It is a rubberised battery cover, unlike the original metal cover. Still, the feel of the cover is great to the touch.
I am no longer using this device, but my dad is! It still works and have survived loads of damage... mostly dropping the device with the battery cover!