This is probably a loaded question but I have to ask it as my mind has been boggled by this since the Fuze released in the US. Yes I have searched the forums, yes I have searched google, this is how I've come up with some of my information but the question still lingers.
In the newer Tilts, which utilize the Qualcomm MSM7201 RISC Chipset, is this chip actually capable of the 528MHz frequency that the Qualcomm MSM7201A RISC Chipset is capable of?
PDAdb appears to show both Chips as having a recommended max clock frequency of 528MHz.
MSM7201
MSM7201A
Even Qualcomms own QCT Connect site indicates the MSM7201 is capable of 528MHz, or at least that's what I pull from 528 MHz ARM11 Jazelle™ Java® hardware acceleration which is listed in the Technical Features of the page.
QCT Connect MSM7201
I know the Kaiser, in its current state would be unable to dissipate the heat that would be created from the chip being clocked at 528MHz, I am simply curious if the chip in my Tilt is actually underclocked to 400MHz or is the chip more a match to the 7200.
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I've used the AT&T 8525 for quite a while and have found the 400mhz Samsung processor to be great. But I'd like to know, is the Qualcomm processor on the Kaiser any faster? I've heard it is dual core. Is this true? Is the difference noticeable?
When to expect > GHz Winmobile phones? Qualcomm has a chipset QSD8250/8650 for a while, though haven't found any appliance for it.
Htc has one on the website...
Shift i think. . I could be wrong about the name anyways it is a 1.3ghz pentium processor and 30 gig on board harddrive. And its quad band 3g and edge network. with a 7 inch screen..... Full Vista .....oh yeah its like 1600 bucks but hey just wait it will come down...
fingers crossed
Timdawg....
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I believe he said WINMOBILE PHONE, not an UMPC. big difference. I dont think we'll see those specs for some time.
We'll see those Processors once we get better batteries that can handle 'em.
higher temp if the higher speed that's why dual core and quad-core processors are made so that they run at lower speeds and generate less heat but i think also needs less energy because lower speed. it would be more likely that we get in the future a dual processor running at 200mhz, 500mhz, or 600mhz or we just get a 800mhz chip with a high cap. battery but it wont be nice when the batt explodes.
a ghz processor would use up like 15-20 watts when running on full so its somehow not practical as of now.
battery life is given utmost priority in handheld devices.
Does anyone know if HTC plans on creating a tytn II version with stronger processor (CPU)? (like the trinity 3600 & 3600i)
Thanks!
Kaiser has a 400mhz cpu and so does the Trinity as far as I know.
Kaiser has this one: Qualcomm MSM 7200, 400MHz
Trinity has this one: Samsung SC32442A-400MHz stacked CPU
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I noticed that in Nexus 9 they had implemented a seperate chipset between the MDM9625 and APQ?8084.
Am I am wondering what is the reasoning or advantage in doing this if Qualcomm can provide a single chip solution MSM and achieve the same thing.
A seperate chip solution would obviously take more real estate.
Thoughts?
Delete. Sorry, misread your post.
Any number of reasons. They may have lost something in the MSM version, the 2 chips may have been cheaper, the MSM may not have been as easily available and the two chips were available.
How about because they HAVE NO MSM version of the SD805.
The highest MSM is the SD800 aka SD801 in the MSM8974. The equivalent [non-existent] 805 would have a part number of MSM8984, which does not exist. So if you want the newer Adreno (to run the QHD display), or the 64 bit memory (double the memory bandwidth = way better performance), then you need the APQ8084.
As of right now, If I could pick any phone in the world I would still choose the Nexus 6.
I am considering the possibility of trying to replace the SD801 with a new Snapdragon SoC.
I am fully aware that it could be nearly impossible to physically remove from the motherboard, but if I figure out a way to put in a newer processor, would it even work?
Would there be conflictions with the software, being 32 bit vs a newer 64 bit processor, etc?
Has anyone heard of this being done on any device before?
Well, the N6 uses a Snapdragon 805, not an 801, so there you go in that regard. The 805 is the last 32-bit SoC Qualcomm made, and I believe all subsequent chips from Qualcomm, from their entry level processors to the forthcoming 845, are 64-bit. This presents a huge technological hurdle. Assuming that it was possible to create a board that could interface with the 805's solder pads that the 64-bit SoC could sit upon, the new SoC may well end up being slower than an untouched board. The board only has a 32-bit address bus while the chip has a 64-bit address bus. Half the lines in the address bus would remain unused, which hinders performance. Think of it as being like the old Intel 286 processor for the PC. The 286 internally was a 32-bit processor, but it only had a 16-bit address bus which negatively impacted performance as the limited size of the address bus created a data bottleneck. The 386 would resolve this issue by increasing the address bus size.
Assuming you could bypass the technological hurdle, you then have a software hurdle. The existing kernel for the N6 wouldn't work with the new SoC, so you'd have to create a new one from scratch with support for the new SoC included as well as support for all the N6's existing hardware. The version of Android compiled will end up being 32-bit, as the main gain from switching to a 64-bit processor is the ability to address 4GB or more of RAM, which the N6 does not have. If you built a 64-bit version of Android performance would be reduced further due to the address bus issue.
People in China have replaced lower capacity flash memory with higher capacity versions, but never a SoC.