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Just upgraded to WM5

Hey guys, before anything please let me thank you for this amazing site. You have made a complete n00b to a power-user in 2 days flat. Please do allow me to tell you my story. 2 Days ago I got this thing called O2 XDA IIs (HTC Blueangel) and I got it for around 300US$ (Unlocked/New) was not so fond of Windows devices so intended to sell it off asap and get some other phone, was just doing a little R&D on the net to see what all is available for this thing. When I came across to your site, here's when I got so intregued by the capabilities of this thing.
First I intalled the latest ROM for my device, after getting little confidence I installed WM5 with my fingers crossed. Its all done now but have a few things to ask you guys.
1. When you mentioned about the EXTROM you said that you'll have to copy the files on the StorageCard\ExtRom when all I did was copy nk.nbf into the folder called WM5_Pack_V3 and ran the installer. I did run the batch file to get the oper_code from the DeviceData file. It was all done, I was really scared but now am worried did I do the right thing?
The Device Information TAB shows
ROM Version : 5.03.02WWE
ROM Date : 03/02/05
Radio Version : 1.12.00
Protocol Ver : 1337.42
ExtRom Ver : TuMa v1.3
2. It took me long enough to install this what all tweaks should I do to it so that it stays at the maximum bug-free current stage. (Hope you get me)
3. I need the starting screen to display something other then those scary 3 colored lines
Some things that I noticed after upgrading:
1. WM5 It's a little slow, but definately much better looking and show-off value.
2. I have a Wi-Fi enabled ADSL router at home by which I connect the O2 and other devices its working fine on.
Any help/suggestions/comments are welcome.
A brief intro for me would be have worked as a beta tester for many symbian application providers, was a complete S60 geek and am majorly into bikes & bike photography

Nothing said yet?

Im not sure I understand that whole Extrom deal, but what I can say is that the files that were in the extrom folder inside the upgrade pack must be put in the storage card in the same folder, but that is only if you want MMS and have a camera, if not, then there is nothing to do, unless you edit the Cfg.txt to load all your apps and settings after a hard reset. I guess that if you are able to use the device, you did everything ok as far as the flashing goes. it is a little slow, but its come a long way from the first versions, those were slow as hell, thanks to Mamaich and Tuatara and everyone else this version is running great!
as for the 3 color bar start up screen, there is nothing you can do about it...

Yeah I really forgot to thank Mamaich and Tuatara for their awesome work, now I am really scared as I dont like the slow response and am unable to downgrade. ActiveSync shuts down whenever I try to run the MaUpgradenoID.exe file activesync stops and it is giving errors in connecting, gets DC frequently. And moreover the Manufacturer supplied upgrade is also not working it gives a CountryCode error. Am really confused and scared now what to do?

Well I did not get any help but with loads of tinkering I got the thing done, I wanted to know why was WM5 so slow, otherwise the interface is loads better then the current CE I am using.

I have the Cingular version SX66 Blue Angel. I was able to update it without any problems. Usually speed is very different with those who flush the registry and with those who don't. Make sure you flush your registry after you completed the update.
Mine is faster and way more stable than the other version I had on it. Remember to follow all instructions exactly. if there is a link you need to check and make sure you do the format, change the ram size on the device, then upgrade.

There are no instructions on how to flush the registry can you enlighten me on this?

manav said:
There are no instructions on how to flush the registry can you enlighten me on this?
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During the flashing process, the wiki instructs the user to do a hard reset
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM5_HardReset
You should answer NO, YES, YES to the boot questions.

Hmm yeah, I did do that. And just am in the process of downgrading from the buggy WM5. It doesn't work out for me.

and THAT'S where I got problems!
in the manual, it says I have to download my latest favorite ROM version, and FROM that file i should copy the nk.nbf the "DOWNGRADE TO WM2003SE" folder..and that's what seems impossible to me, since the Rom-update i downloaded is an .exe application, and not a .zip or .rar archive..
so how should i get the nk.nbf file out of the Rom-update .exe file..?
help

well some were in the same documentaion it should also say use rar or zip to unpack it (being the exe file).
Pls spend some time in wiki you might find some other answers

yeah i had tried that already back then butthat didn't work either..when i try that it still just starts running the program.. :?

Try these instructions with your exe file:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=233903#233903

Any non-programers understand this stuff?

ok, I have read all there is to read on this site and on WIKI. What good is it if what I am reading makes no sense to me? I know what .cab files are and how to use them, but what is a .rar file and how do I unrar or unzip it? Do i really need to create files in DOS?
All I want to do is upgrade my BA (sx66/cingular using unlocked on tmobile) to windows mobile 5.0. I know there are way too many threads on here about people who are getting stuck or having certain errors or need help in some way. I can't even get started! The few "step by step" guides I found, start off easy enough an 3 steps into it they referring to things that I have no idea what they are or how to do (yes i have read all the "please read before asking questions" stuff) Again what good does it do if you dont know what you are reading. Maybe its not broken down into simple enough terms for the average joe.
In any event, is there anyone that can shed some light on this stuff for me or aid me in a walk through. Or am I just out of luck because of my lack of software engineering knowledge? Thanks for your time all and I appreciate any feedback. Surely there is someone out there as dumb as I in this area that made it through (or at least I can hope)

You need winrar (www.winrar.com) to "unrar" the files in order to use them.
Winrar works just like winzip but it handle .rar files. So basicly you will download winrar to your computer, install it, then download the rar file with the rom you want to upgrade your device.
Using winrar open the rom archive and extract to a folder on your computer.
Run build.exe, select the options you want for your rom and press the > button.
From there do as the guide says.

spunk32, calm down We are here to help, not kill newbies
Two things:
1. When you don't understand some terms like "unrar" that not PDA-related, just google it. Things like this are considered basic here
2. When you have specific problem about one of the points, post a question (let's keep it in this thread) and smb will try to explain. But try to understand some of us, that we are not going to explain how to copy or download a file
General comment:
ROM upgrading is not totally safe and error-prune. You have to understand fully what are you doing and what for/what is the result. Basic knowledge of the way the PDA works is also good, to make good decisions on the way. That's why I do not consider updating (especially BA from WM2003 to WM5) as a task for everybody (for ex. I think that updating WM5 to WM6 with full unlocking of Hermes is much easier, but still not safe).
I would propose you to use Baniaczek's ROM (instead of XPlode rom cooking set - I looked at the PDF guide - yes, this one is complex, but some of the pictures might be helpful) as there is one step less on the way.
Full guide for you is here (on bottom of the page)
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Helmi
You should go through all the options here, when you update from WM2003. Remeber, that going back to 2003 needs to go through another procedure, that will recreate ExtROM (yes, this is one of the magic words you should understand to play with ROMs).

Thanks for the info guys. ill delve a little deeper and see what happens. im sure ill be back on here with a post when i come to another speed bump. thanks again.

ok, i have gotten this far: downloaded winrar software, downloaded the following ROM-Helmi_BA_WM2k5_AKU3.5_v1.4.CF2.R2. Then I clicked on MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe. When i click continue on the welcome screen, the next screen shows "software converting from....to..." all the data fields are blank. Is this normal and am I on the right path? I did NOT click on upgrade to continue the process b/c I wasnt sure if I had missed something. Thanks again all.

Read what I posted moment ago in "No data from device in MyUpgradeUt" thread. I just checked again screen while updating Xplode on my BA:
In From fields there is only Radio version
In To fields, I have only Ce Image Version: 5.35.05
All other fields are emplty (and not important after all, especially nonexisting ExtROM).

Press your power button, the record button (has a cassette on it) and your reset button at the same time. Wait for the Serial or USB to show on the screen (will be dark) then flash your ROM.
It is in the forums around here somewhere on how to do that but I am to busy to find it for you to post a link.

ok, i think i made a mistake. i got as far as the step where it says you MUST say YES to the first two things on the reboot screen or whatever. all of them said NO, i tried to change it to YES , but i did not know how to change it. i hit the mail button and the screen white and loaded as is. how do i get back to the screen where i need to make the "YES" changes and how do i change NO to YES??

ok, i re-read and saw where i missed how to toggle the YES/NO. so since i was dumb enough to miss that what have i done by not changing the "NO"s to "YES"s? The device seems to be working fine. Is there something that I am not aware of yet?

If you restarted the device and made the hard reset again, this time correctly (selecting proper settings) device should work fine.
You might not noticed, but if you take battery out for while and then start the device, radio won't start (there will be no version next to letter R - means GSM mopdule won't work). You need to make soft reset few secs after first starting of the device to make it run. This is on of not so many problematic things with BA under WM5.

i have not done anything to reset the "yes/no" settings and the device has been working fine all day. i dont ever take off my battery so hopefully i wont have the problem you were refering to.
also, is there any way to remove the camera software since i dont have a camera on my device.
how do i upgrade the radio? i tried WIKI, but i got error messages and when i tried to follow the troubleshooting the links didnt work. outdated i guess.

If you never done correctly hardreset of you BA, you should - you can have a lot of odd problems without hard reset after installing (or upgrading) WM5.
Radio: I followed Wiki and made update radio (1 year ago) from some old version up to 1.13 - without any problems. Follow step after step and port exact error message and on what was happening a this exact moment.

ok, i reset and corrected to NO, YES, YES. thanks. what about removing camera data? any ideas?

You cannot delete apps that are already included in the ROM - this is Read Only Memory, as you know.
When you feel comfortable with flashing and playing with all those files, you will be ready to try xplode kitchen in which you can just select stuff you need to be included in the rom. Manual is a bit longer but still nothing really hard. You can find PDF with full instruction on Wiki pages.

ok i understand what your saying about the camera app. i have tried many times and many versions of the radio upgrade and none work. i have gotten just about every error code there is. am i supposed to be in that "boot" mode when i run it or simple be synced? ill keep looking for a thread that has recent info, but what i see is out of date with links that are no good.

You should follow http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Radio_1.15_Upgrade and Second Methord Type I EASY (this is the one I used). Because you have no camera, you device is PH20B1, but AFAIK radio is the same.
You need to put your device in "serial" booloader mode (non backlighted screen, "serial" or "USB" written in lower part of the screen depending on USB cable connected or not (Power+Softreset+Record).

blue tooth wont turn on
the wm5.0 has been working great. the only problem i am having is that the blue tooth wont turn on. i have tried every method of enabling it, but it always shuts itself off. any ideas?

Some help please

I've been reading and trying this for days with no luck. I've fully unlocked my wizard and I'm now trying to flash to the 318 rom. But I have no clue how to do it. Could someone walk me through ho to do it? Most of the flashing done thus far has been an EXE file or through DOS. I must be missing something simple.
please help

follow this thread, enjoy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613

mikaarce said:
follow this thread, enjoy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
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I followed that one already. That's how I unlocked it. But all step 3.8 says is "your ready to flash...". Right now I don't understand exactly how to flash and I'd prefer not to "trial and error" it.
However, this morning I did open up the Hypercore kitchen and I think I'm on the right track. I'm at work so I can't try anything but I've printed up everything in that thread including all it's links and I'm going to give it a go once I get home. I'll report back once that's done.

Alright, after some more research and reading in the hypercore kitchen thread and all it's links, I think I may have it figured out.
I download and extract the files for the ROM I want, in this case 318 8.1 from theloon.
I then follow the instructions linked int he hypercore thread with dumping, and the pkgtool, buildos, etc.. If followed correctly, my wizard should be flashed with the new rom correct?
A confirmation would be nice. Any other comments you have are a bonus.
Another question though; what's the difference between the programs contained in the SYS and OEM folders compared to the ones in the build OS that i have the select? Aren't the ones in the folders already included in the ROM?
Your help would be greatly appreciated. I don't get confused too easily so as you can imagine i'm quite frustrated. I used to flash new versions and programs to my Razr but it was nothing like this.

dont get me wrong are you trying to cook your own rom, because hypercore is a kitchen, i suggest you download one of the roms that are made by reputable cooks, like the NBD series, TNT series, paradox, xmr, faria's, ingenetics, octavio's they differ in the apps and costumization included in the os and the builds, so just select download and flash
there's an executable file inside the roms once you unzip it and be careful if your using xp or vista

The only things I've been working with up until this point is BuildOS and nb2nbf. I haven't fully grasped the definition of "cooking" yet; whether it means altering files for my self or if the BuildOS selection list is considered cooking.
I think i was trying to do too much and using a file different from the one being referenced in the tutorial was a bit confusing. So to start, I decided to use Faria's Crossbow and the tutorial that came with it. It was very easy and I was able to flash my Wizard to that ROM without a problem. But the one i really want is Theloon's 318.
So, based off of what I learned last night I figured I just needed to replace the OEM, ROM, and SYS folders that came up when I unzipped Faria's crossbow with the ones from 318. Is this correct? Because I just tried that this morning and I get all the way to the CMD prompt right before it opens nb2nbf and it gives me an error (see attacment). If there's one thing I've learned from all these bricked devices floating around, it's to NEVER proceed when an error occurs.
What does this error mean? How can I fix it? Is my moving of the folders wrong? What am i missing?

just messin around trying to see what tools work, i got another error.

Ok, now I've got a bigger problem. I finally figured out what I was doing wrong. It's actually a lot simpler than I thought. i was just making it more complicated. Ok, I tarted the flash and at about 47%, it gave me a memory reference error. Now my Wizard won't go past the three-color screen and all it shows is my IPL/SPL 3.08. ActiveSync won't detect it, tried hard resetting, turning on while holding camera button, etc. What do i do now?

Now you start thinking... "Maybe I should have read the stickies on the Upgrading forums... bummer..."
The 3 color screen is called the BootLoader. As long you get that screen, your phone can be recovered. How to recover it?
- Use a Windows XP PC.
- Download Wizard_Love Rom (its somewhere, use google or search the forum, but then again, you wouldn't be having this problems IF you knew how to use the search button!)
- Press and hold CAMERA button and hit the reset, keeping the camera button pressed.
- Connect the Wizard to your pc using the USB cable.
- Start the Wizard_Love RUU utility that comes with it.
- Just press next until it starts flashing the ROM to it.
- Pray for it to finish without touching anything until the RUU says CONGRATULATIONS.
There... your phone is working again.
READ THE STICKIES BEFORE DOING ANYTHING AND USE THE SEARCH!
THIS QUESTION HAS BEEN ANSWERED FOR TOO MANY TIMES ALREADY!!!
PS: Maybe we should create a thread for helping the guys that don't follow stickies or care about the ALREADY info we have here... something like:
- 3 color screen: do this
- different IPL/SPL G3 on a G4 device: you are screwed.

I definately read the stickies over and over again. I've got a stack of printouts sitting in front of me that I've been reading for the past week.
I understand your frustration about questions like this but that's no reason to be rude. I used to be a moderator on pbnation.com so I know exactly how you feel. But the fact of the matter is that I'm not as familiar with these things as you are. I fixed the bootloader issue before I even read your response. i found the answer by re-reading one of my printouts that said the re-flash with official rom. So i did that and it worked. I knew I'd get flamed for posting but since I had already had a thread created, I figured it wouldn't hurt to post updates on my status.
I know how to flash roms now. It's actually quite easy. However, I ran into some issues that I'd like to explain in hopes that you realize I'm not taking advantage of you or not utilizing the tools and stickies.
i was having problems yesterday because of my work computer (I think). When extracting the files from Hypercore, they were not placed where they should have been and the tools wouldn't work properly. An example would be when opening buildOS it would give me the yes or no prompts. An IT friend allowed me to use his non-work laptop to do the exact same thing and I was able to use it without a hitch. The simple tmobile official rom update wouldn't even work on my work computer. So it's not just me.
I knew there was a reason that i couldn't follow it.
Regardless of your approach, I still thank you for your help.

I didn't mean to be rude... sorry about that. Its just that from your post count I thought your were like a newcomer like those that come here all the time, asking the same questions over and over again. Netherless, sorry for "helping" you the way I did.
I will have some tea now to relax care to join?

Hard SPL for Wizard G3!!!

Removed pending posting of instructions.

What is this for?
Thanx.

Prislav said:
Hi!
Subj - http://rapidshare.com/files/76444771/wzg3.7z
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Sorry, not meant as a slam, but someone with only 21 posts, puts up a Rapidshare link for something to flash to a Wizard saying its HardSPL and no other instructions or information... Sorry (again, no offense meant by this) but I wouldn't flash something that is unexplained (if there is another post about this, then at least give a pointer to that in the first post).
FWIW: HardSPL is a way of making your device almost unbrickable. If it works like with the Hermes and Kaiser HardSPL, then you do the steps needed to install this, instead of the old CID unlock procedure of having to go back to the Button ROM and running lokiwiz.
But still, I'd be careful flashing something like this until more is known about it (the source, instructions for the method to install it, etc).

Totally agreed! I wouldn't go for it!

I don't mind to brick my wizard again!

mfrazzz
I with you agree, but...
I shall be immodest - please read ALL my messages ;-)
Instructions are not present because I do not wish to be responsible for another's nonsense. To whom it is necessary that will understand.

mfrazzz said:
Sorry, not meant as a slam, but someone with only 21 posts, puts up a Rapidshare link for something to flash to a Wizard saying its HardSPL and no other instructions or information... Sorry (again, no offense meant by this) but I wouldn't flash something that is unexplained (if there is another post about this, then at least give a pointer to that in the first post).
FWIW: HardSPL is a way of making your device almost unbrickable. If it works like with the Hermes and Kaiser HardSPL, then you do the steps needed to install this, instead of the old CID unlock procedure of having to go back to the Button ROM and running lokiwiz.
But still, I'd be careful flashing something like this until more is known about it (the source, instructions for the method to install it, etc).
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Lokiwiz has been a trusted and faithful friend. Until I get more info, instructions, screeners even...I will keep using my trusted friend Loki.
No offense to the OP, but "read my other posts" doesn't tell us much. Your other posts are just like this one. Short and to the point, no real info given...nothing telling me how to install/run it. Nothing troubleshooting if an issue should arise. Read the Loki thread, or Dr. P's tutorial...everything anyone needs to know about Loki is there. Yours...not so much.

Hey, all I need is a "no-answer" answer from the poster and that's enough for me to hold back.

Prislav said:
mfrazzz
I with you agree, but...
I shall be immodest - please read ALL my messages ;-)
Instructions are not present because I do not wish to be responsible for another's nonsense. To whom it is necessary that will understand.
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Very irresponsible attitude,don't post if you are not sure what it's all about,but if you post than have the courage to standby it.

i tried on my friends wizard not mine.. .copy alll those files on wizard.. and click spl.lnk..and see the difference...

zabardast_1 said:
Very irresponsible attitude,don't post if you are not sure what it's all about,but if you post than have the courage to standby it.
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Very true!!
IF, you check his entries, other posts like this one have been made in other device sections. Now how all the mighty guru's here have somehow overlooked this ability, and he has manged to make it happen...
When a dev here releases something, it is does with so much info that if something does happen, a person KNOWS it can be fixed. To say:
Instructions are not present because I do not wish to be responsible for another's nonsense. To whom it is necessary that will understand.
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Tells me this person really gives a sh*t less about whether or not my usage helps or kills my device. Real nice attitude there...makes me really confident about using the linky.
And to the poster above...you feel so confident about it that you tried it on a friends wizard??? If it does work, as you say, please give us more details about it...since we have none really.

Until we see some directions as well as a bit more transparency from the OP, I'm removing the link. OP, please PM me when you have fulfilled those requirements.

jwzg said:
Until we see some directions as well as a bit more transparency from the OP, I'm removing the link. OP, please PM me when you have fulfilled those requirements.
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Thank you.
I certaily wasn't about to take the risk, especially with the attitude from the OP.
Again, thanks.

Guys dont bombard like this , Prislav has always presented raw content like this in Prophet forum also. Maintaining the terminology, just see diagram, might be useful- simple
But im not favouring any one. please!

I force nobody. Do not want, it is not necessary. To me it is not important.

Well this thread seems nice and hostile .
Unless I am missing something all Prislav has done is to use JumpSPL by Pof (Nice WinCE Tramp by the way ) to fire off a patched G3 SoftSPL and from there let you launch into the ROM update routine.
Prislav’s post may have been a little short on details but there is plenty of info on the board and in his previous threads on the subject. Pof's JumpSPL thread is also a goldmine of info.
Prislav also seems to have been kind enough to provide a patched 'flashable' SPL for G3 devices.
I have not tried this yet (my G3 junkers are at home, so I will tonight) but looking at the dumps of the files and the steps that Prislav has gone through I think this should work.
The SoftSPL seems to contain nothing dangerous and I test launched it on a G4 I have on my desk to no adverse affect (in fact it did almost what I expected, not sure it is putting the device into the correct 'wait for USB' state mind you but it does answer to prods from MTTY ).
Looking at the way the file is patched (and my limited knowledge in this area may let me down, I am more of an ARM Linux hacker) is very interesting. It also looks very much like this could be wrapped into a SoftSPL flashtool that just soft patches a G3 before flashing (and also gives users a choice to flash a HardSPL if wanted, just like we do with G4’s and most modern HTC devices).

Ok,
Just an update to my last post,
I found an old G3 with a broken keyboard under my desk. IPL/SPL 2.17, ancient radio and AKU2.
SoftSPL via JumpSPL from Pof/Prislav seems to work fine .
Converted the Hard-SPL.nb to an nk.nbf (with just the SPL in it).
Flashed the resulting nk.nbf.
Device is now running a patched SPL (2.H4).
Just upgraded device to WM6 from an off the shelf ROM (had Jag 4.0 handy) using the usual NVID update tool.
The end result is an old, unhacked WM5 G3 upgraded to WM6 in a matter of mins.
Download: I will edit this post when I get home and have had a chance to upload the files to my site. - Stuck at work right now.
Edit @ 22:00, 17th Jan: Download is now up here. Use with care and don't come crying to me (or Prislav ).
HowTo: Install PatchedSPL on a G3 Wizard (or just run a SoftSPL if you flash another OS ROM at step 7 with the included flash tool).
Warning: I have only tried this with 2.* IPL’s/SPL’s, I can’t be sure it will not brick devices running 3.* or 1.* IPL’s/SPL’s. It will be a few days before I can test this so if you have a 3.* or 1.* bootloader I would suggest you leave this well alone. Do not try this on a G4, there is no point and you may well brick it .
1: Install latest ActiveSync (If you’re upgrading from WM5-6 your going to need it)
2: Download the rar from my website.
3: Copy the contents of the “Copy to root of G3 Wizard device” folder to the ROOT of your Wizard using ActiveSync.
4: From File Explorer run the SPL shortcut from the root of the device.
5: Wait for the screen to go white (you are now running a patched SoftSPL running from RAM),
6: Unplug and reconnect the USB lead to the PC (you can check the connection with MTTY if your so inclined).
7: Wait a few seconds and start the ROM upgrade in “Flash-WizG3-PatchedSPL”.
If all goes well this will work just like a normal ROM update (without anything shown on your Wizard’s screen) and your device will reboot after a few mins.
Check the version of the SPL running, if it is SPL version 2.H4 all should be fine and your now running a CID unlocked device that can take any Wizard ROM.
John

What's the difference between CID unlock(using LokiWiz) and this proceudure (Hard Spl)?

AldoWeb said:
What's the difference between CID unlock(using LokiWiz) and this procedure (Hard Spl)?
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To be honest, very little. Both leave you free to flash a ROM of your choice .
This just uses the same 'methods' as used with newer HTC devices and the G4 Wizards.
It will also be easy enough to wrap with ROM's to create 'G3' SoftSPL upgrades that flash to any G3 device without messing about. Just grab the installer, drop your nb.nbf of choice and run the upgrade.
I'll try and bundle up such an installer tonight if I get time.
Hmmm, why do I feel like I have hijacked this thread .
John

So You mean:
You can Create such an installer than given a certain NBF (OS) does even the CID unlock itself.
It would be great
Aldo

I really don't have a clue do I...

I have the Diamond and really like it but it is so slow as we know. I've trawled round the site but am a total noob to this. I read about hardspl (i think) and flashing roms and advanced config....I just want to speed up the device and dont know where to start. I've turned off all the whistles and bells and the handset is on Orange with a 1.37 ROM. Tried installing the advanced config. but it told me I need a newer framework thingy and now the icon is stuck on the device and I just want to throw it at the wall. I know you guys are busy as hell and that a total noob just kinda gets in the way but could someone just tell me what I need, where I get it and where I put it on the damn phone If someone can I'll get the Mrs to make you tea
Sorry guys but I have tried but am not that techy minded

Hey dude, don't worry.
Check this site out - http://modmydiamond.info/
Read through the radio and rom installation guides carefully. It's very easy to follow and you will have upgraded in no time at all. As for which ROM, I use Swift bl v.6. It's very stable and quick and includes adv config in it anyway. But there are many so check out the rom section of this forum and see what people say, same goes for the radios. Installing a new rom will wipe the data on your Diamond, so it should get rid of that icon problem anyway mate.
I don't know why noobs get such a hard time, this site can be bewildering due to the vast info presented and some of us don't have the time to trawl through it all - espically as lots of it seems so advanced.
Anyway, good luck.

I'll try to make it simple as I can, because just over a month ago I was a noob in the same boat as you... So I know the learning curve is pretty steep, but once you start plodding up it, it does level out.
BUT before you go any further, read and understand all of this very useful check list here...
Also, it'll help to keep this list handy throughout the procedures.
So, keeping it simple, go for HardSPL 1.24 from here. Flash 1.24 by following the instructions in post #1 of that thread... follow these instructions to the letter mind, that is the key!
Once you have your HardSPL successfully flashed, go get ROM 1.93.405.1_WWE from here.
This file is self extracting, and automates the flashing process, so all you have to do is follow the instructions given as it leads you through, and if in doubt, just re-read the two sets of the instructions I've pointed out to you (everything you need is in there).
Do all that precisely as instructed, and you'll be all tooled up with the latest and quickest standard HTC ROM for a UK device... Like you, I was on a UK Orange .37 ROM, and I found a welcome increase in performance when I went to .93
Ps, don't be put off by the RUU utility when you get to the page where it looks as if it's trying to update your current main rom with your radio rom... just keep on going, it isn't touching the main rom provided it is flashing only a radio... you'll see what I mean when you get to that stage.
Pps, I'm going to say it again... make sure you backup any very important data you may have on your phone... and ultimately there are no absolute guarantees when flashing devices, and you will see it many times written on this site that you can only get flashy with your device if you're prepared to proceed on this basis.
Otherwise Enjoy
Edit; oops, didn't see you there simcarloc... that's what my post was meant to look like before I got too carried away.

Take a look ath the Diamond Rom forum there are very good guide and step by step guides

Thanks guys, I'm going to have a look at what you directed me to this morning. I run a forum for a car club and I know when people first join up it can be hugely daunting and a tad scary, even with the best intentions noobs can get freaked out somewhat....cue me
Thanks for putting this in "laymans" terms for me as I think that is what noobs need first off and we'll pick the rest of it up as we go along, its not laziness on our part, personally I just had head data overload and was losing the will to live I'll go look at the stuff you've posted and let you know how I get on.
Once again thanks for taking the time out to explain in a language I may just be able to get my head round Thanks guys.
One quick Q....runn diamond-sspl.bat? How and where is this?

Its not playing
Probably my fault but all I get is..
There is no application associated with "diamond-sspl" or whatever folder I try, it keeps telling me to run the app first, but I have no idea what I'm doing now. Also tells me the framework isn't present. No idea.
Guess I'll be sticking with a slow device Thanks anyway guys

Hey there LoudyMcLoud,
Like you I am somewhat of a noob too…
But since you have a problem I encountered before (framework issue) I might be able to help you out in this first stage.
My device kept giving the message that my Framework was not up to date when I wanted to install a program. I went to search for the latest framework version at MS, and found the latest (beta) release. I installed that, and then I got the message that my framework was a newer version then needed…. Ahhh help me god.
So I took the easy way out, a hard reset did the trick for me (press and hold volume down + centre button + the soft reset button located in the stylus opening)
Remember, this procedure too, will wipe all date from your device, it will restore itself to the way it was when you first bought it.
Maybe after this you can use the steps mentioned earlier in this thread.
Good luck with your Diamond.

Just install the latest .net framework from microsoft that is NOT the Beta version - can't remember the version number, but this worked for me.

Good job,... hope you will get the rest sorted

LoudyMcLoud said:
One quick Q....runn diamond-sspl.bat? How and where is this?
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It's in the zip file you should have already downloaded here.
Extract all files in this zip file to their own folder, make an activesync connection with your diamond, then away you go. (For starters I recommend you choose HardSPL 1.24 when prompted.)
Latest .net is 3.5 available here.