Database Develop

Any non-programers understand this stuff?

ok, I have read all there is to read on this site and on WIKI. What good is it if what I am reading makes no sense to me? I know what .cab files are and how to use them, but what is a .rar file and how do I unrar or unzip it? Do i really need to create files in DOS?
All I want to do is upgrade my BA (sx66/cingular using unlocked on tmobile) to windows mobile 5.0. I know there are way too many threads on here about people who are getting stuck or having certain errors or need help in some way. I can't even get started! The few "step by step" guides I found, start off easy enough an 3 steps into it they referring to things that I have no idea what they are or how to do (yes i have read all the "please read before asking questions" stuff) Again what good does it do if you dont know what you are reading. Maybe its not broken down into simple enough terms for the average joe.
In any event, is there anyone that can shed some light on this stuff for me or aid me in a walk through. Or am I just out of luck because of my lack of software engineering knowledge? Thanks for your time all and I appreciate any feedback. Surely there is someone out there as dumb as I in this area that made it through (or at least I can hope)

You need winrar (www.winrar.com) to "unrar" the files in order to use them.
Winrar works just like winzip but it handle .rar files. So basicly you will download winrar to your computer, install it, then download the rar file with the rom you want to upgrade your device.
Using winrar open the rom archive and extract to a folder on your computer.
Run build.exe, select the options you want for your rom and press the > button.
From there do as the guide says.

spunk32, calm down We are here to help, not kill newbies
Two things:
1. When you don't understand some terms like "unrar" that not PDA-related, just google it. Things like this are considered basic here
2. When you have specific problem about one of the points, post a question (let's keep it in this thread) and smb will try to explain. But try to understand some of us, that we are not going to explain how to copy or download a file
General comment:
ROM upgrading is not totally safe and error-prune. You have to understand fully what are you doing and what for/what is the result. Basic knowledge of the way the PDA works is also good, to make good decisions on the way. That's why I do not consider updating (especially BA from WM2003 to WM5) as a task for everybody (for ex. I think that updating WM5 to WM6 with full unlocking of Hermes is much easier, but still not safe).
I would propose you to use Baniaczek's ROM (instead of XPlode rom cooking set - I looked at the PDF guide - yes, this one is complex, but some of the pictures might be helpful) as there is one step less on the way.
Full guide for you is here (on bottom of the page)
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Helmi
You should go through all the options here, when you update from WM2003. Remeber, that going back to 2003 needs to go through another procedure, that will recreate ExtROM (yes, this is one of the magic words you should understand to play with ROMs).

Thanks for the info guys. ill delve a little deeper and see what happens. im sure ill be back on here with a post when i come to another speed bump. thanks again.

ok, i have gotten this far: downloaded winrar software, downloaded the following ROM-Helmi_BA_WM2k5_AKU3.5_v1.4.CF2.R2. Then I clicked on MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe. When i click continue on the welcome screen, the next screen shows "software converting from....to..." all the data fields are blank. Is this normal and am I on the right path? I did NOT click on upgrade to continue the process b/c I wasnt sure if I had missed something. Thanks again all.

Read what I posted moment ago in "No data from device in MyUpgradeUt" thread. I just checked again screen while updating Xplode on my BA:
In From fields there is only Radio version
In To fields, I have only Ce Image Version: 5.35.05
All other fields are emplty (and not important after all, especially nonexisting ExtROM).

Press your power button, the record button (has a cassette on it) and your reset button at the same time. Wait for the Serial or USB to show on the screen (will be dark) then flash your ROM.
It is in the forums around here somewhere on how to do that but I am to busy to find it for you to post a link.

ok, i think i made a mistake. i got as far as the step where it says you MUST say YES to the first two things on the reboot screen or whatever. all of them said NO, i tried to change it to YES , but i did not know how to change it. i hit the mail button and the screen white and loaded as is. how do i get back to the screen where i need to make the "YES" changes and how do i change NO to YES??

ok, i re-read and saw where i missed how to toggle the YES/NO. so since i was dumb enough to miss that what have i done by not changing the "NO"s to "YES"s? The device seems to be working fine. Is there something that I am not aware of yet?

If you restarted the device and made the hard reset again, this time correctly (selecting proper settings) device should work fine.
You might not noticed, but if you take battery out for while and then start the device, radio won't start (there will be no version next to letter R - means GSM mopdule won't work). You need to make soft reset few secs after first starting of the device to make it run. This is on of not so many problematic things with BA under WM5.

i have not done anything to reset the "yes/no" settings and the device has been working fine all day. i dont ever take off my battery so hopefully i wont have the problem you were refering to.
also, is there any way to remove the camera software since i dont have a camera on my device.
how do i upgrade the radio? i tried WIKI, but i got error messages and when i tried to follow the troubleshooting the links didnt work. outdated i guess.

If you never done correctly hardreset of you BA, you should - you can have a lot of odd problems without hard reset after installing (or upgrading) WM5.
Radio: I followed Wiki and made update radio (1 year ago) from some old version up to 1.13 - without any problems. Follow step after step and port exact error message and on what was happening a this exact moment.

ok, i reset and corrected to NO, YES, YES. thanks. what about removing camera data? any ideas?

You cannot delete apps that are already included in the ROM - this is Read Only Memory, as you know.
When you feel comfortable with flashing and playing with all those files, you will be ready to try xplode kitchen in which you can just select stuff you need to be included in the rom. Manual is a bit longer but still nothing really hard. You can find PDF with full instruction on Wiki pages.

ok i understand what your saying about the camera app. i have tried many times and many versions of the radio upgrade and none work. i have gotten just about every error code there is. am i supposed to be in that "boot" mode when i run it or simple be synced? ill keep looking for a thread that has recent info, but what i see is out of date with links that are no good.

You should follow http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Radio_1.15_Upgrade and Second Methord Type I EASY (this is the one I used). Because you have no camera, you device is PH20B1, but AFAIK radio is the same.
You need to put your device in "serial" booloader mode (non backlighted screen, "serial" or "USB" written in lower part of the screen depending on USB cable connected or not (Power+Softreset+Record).

blue tooth wont turn on
the wm5.0 has been working great. the only problem i am having is that the blue tooth wont turn on. i have tried every method of enabling it, but it always shuts itself off. any ideas?

Some help please

I've been reading and trying this for days with no luck. I've fully unlocked my wizard and I'm now trying to flash to the 318 rom. But I have no clue how to do it. Could someone walk me through ho to do it? Most of the flashing done thus far has been an EXE file or through DOS. I must be missing something simple.
please help

follow this thread, enjoy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613

mikaarce said:
follow this thread, enjoy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
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I followed that one already. That's how I unlocked it. But all step 3.8 says is "your ready to flash...". Right now I don't understand exactly how to flash and I'd prefer not to "trial and error" it.
However, this morning I did open up the Hypercore kitchen and I think I'm on the right track. I'm at work so I can't try anything but I've printed up everything in that thread including all it's links and I'm going to give it a go once I get home. I'll report back once that's done.

Alright, after some more research and reading in the hypercore kitchen thread and all it's links, I think I may have it figured out.
I download and extract the files for the ROM I want, in this case 318 8.1 from theloon.
I then follow the instructions linked int he hypercore thread with dumping, and the pkgtool, buildos, etc.. If followed correctly, my wizard should be flashed with the new rom correct?
A confirmation would be nice. Any other comments you have are a bonus.
Another question though; what's the difference between the programs contained in the SYS and OEM folders compared to the ones in the build OS that i have the select? Aren't the ones in the folders already included in the ROM?
Your help would be greatly appreciated. I don't get confused too easily so as you can imagine i'm quite frustrated. I used to flash new versions and programs to my Razr but it was nothing like this.

dont get me wrong are you trying to cook your own rom, because hypercore is a kitchen, i suggest you download one of the roms that are made by reputable cooks, like the NBD series, TNT series, paradox, xmr, faria's, ingenetics, octavio's they differ in the apps and costumization included in the os and the builds, so just select download and flash
there's an executable file inside the roms once you unzip it and be careful if your using xp or vista

The only things I've been working with up until this point is BuildOS and nb2nbf. I haven't fully grasped the definition of "cooking" yet; whether it means altering files for my self or if the BuildOS selection list is considered cooking.
I think i was trying to do too much and using a file different from the one being referenced in the tutorial was a bit confusing. So to start, I decided to use Faria's Crossbow and the tutorial that came with it. It was very easy and I was able to flash my Wizard to that ROM without a problem. But the one i really want is Theloon's 318.
So, based off of what I learned last night I figured I just needed to replace the OEM, ROM, and SYS folders that came up when I unzipped Faria's crossbow with the ones from 318. Is this correct? Because I just tried that this morning and I get all the way to the CMD prompt right before it opens nb2nbf and it gives me an error (see attacment). If there's one thing I've learned from all these bricked devices floating around, it's to NEVER proceed when an error occurs.
What does this error mean? How can I fix it? Is my moving of the folders wrong? What am i missing?

just messin around trying to see what tools work, i got another error.

Ok, now I've got a bigger problem. I finally figured out what I was doing wrong. It's actually a lot simpler than I thought. i was just making it more complicated. Ok, I tarted the flash and at about 47%, it gave me a memory reference error. Now my Wizard won't go past the three-color screen and all it shows is my IPL/SPL 3.08. ActiveSync won't detect it, tried hard resetting, turning on while holding camera button, etc. What do i do now?

Now you start thinking... "Maybe I should have read the stickies on the Upgrading forums... bummer..."
The 3 color screen is called the BootLoader. As long you get that screen, your phone can be recovered. How to recover it?
- Use a Windows XP PC.
- Download Wizard_Love Rom (its somewhere, use google or search the forum, but then again, you wouldn't be having this problems IF you knew how to use the search button!)
- Press and hold CAMERA button and hit the reset, keeping the camera button pressed.
- Connect the Wizard to your pc using the USB cable.
- Start the Wizard_Love RUU utility that comes with it.
- Just press next until it starts flashing the ROM to it.
- Pray for it to finish without touching anything until the RUU says CONGRATULATIONS.
There... your phone is working again.
READ THE STICKIES BEFORE DOING ANYTHING AND USE THE SEARCH!
THIS QUESTION HAS BEEN ANSWERED FOR TOO MANY TIMES ALREADY!!!
PS: Maybe we should create a thread for helping the guys that don't follow stickies or care about the ALREADY info we have here... something like:
- 3 color screen: do this
- different IPL/SPL G3 on a G4 device: you are screwed.

I definately read the stickies over and over again. I've got a stack of printouts sitting in front of me that I've been reading for the past week.
I understand your frustration about questions like this but that's no reason to be rude. I used to be a moderator on pbnation.com so I know exactly how you feel. But the fact of the matter is that I'm not as familiar with these things as you are. I fixed the bootloader issue before I even read your response. i found the answer by re-reading one of my printouts that said the re-flash with official rom. So i did that and it worked. I knew I'd get flamed for posting but since I had already had a thread created, I figured it wouldn't hurt to post updates on my status.
I know how to flash roms now. It's actually quite easy. However, I ran into some issues that I'd like to explain in hopes that you realize I'm not taking advantage of you or not utilizing the tools and stickies.
i was having problems yesterday because of my work computer (I think). When extracting the files from Hypercore, they were not placed where they should have been and the tools wouldn't work properly. An example would be when opening buildOS it would give me the yes or no prompts. An IT friend allowed me to use his non-work laptop to do the exact same thing and I was able to use it without a hitch. The simple tmobile official rom update wouldn't even work on my work computer. So it's not just me.
I knew there was a reason that i couldn't follow it.
Regardless of your approach, I still thank you for your help.

I didn't mean to be rude... sorry about that. Its just that from your post count I thought your were like a newcomer like those that come here all the time, asking the same questions over and over again. Netherless, sorry for "helping" you the way I did.
I will have some tea now to relax care to join?

n00b questions

Hi,
I just got a Titan with Sprint and have tons of stupid questions. Is there a category in here where people won't mind me asking my questions? I'm new to mobile in particular, mobile windows, mobile devices but not new to windows and linux in general on desktop. So I have questions about imaging my device, cooking my own roms (for instance I've gotten my grubby little hands on the 3.16 GPS/EVDO revA test rom), recovering from disaster, etc before I start messing with and bricking my device. I want to make sure I can recovery after installing Google's android for example as I'm sure I'll probably kill it many times trying.
Thanks,
Chris

when i got here pre getting a wallaby i never even used a pocketpc before
was here for a long while before getting one
general pc knowlage and mainly pc knowlage
made it possible for me to help others who had pda's
before i got one myself
well that and reading other peoples posts

in general people dont mind any questions - no matter how "stupid" as long as you have taken the time and effort to search first.
There are many guides already posted on how to cook roms. This is not a simple task so take things one step at a time.

nose>grindstone
OK, thanks for clarifying. I guess I have two main generic questions to start.
Before I get started, what is the best way to create a complete backup image of my current setup? I've tried to find this out but I keep only seeing things about sprite backup and/or active sync but I suspect I need something else. I recall something about scraping a rom off your device but they didn't go into details. Plus I'm not very clear about the boot loader. Do I need to modify the boot loader and if I do will that screw up my chances of trying other things like Google's Android linux or other cooked windows mobile roms?
Lets assume I can figure out how to use a rom kitchen or whatever other tools I'll need to customize a rom to my liking, I get the feeling I shouldn't just dive in and start modifying things "willynilly" as things will go badly. What do I need to be careful about modifying and what can go wrong? I've only briefly glanced over some rom cooking threads as I wasn't sure where to start and if the instructions are extremely device-model-"centric" or not.
I'm happy to read or follow howtos if I just get links. I don't expect anybody to walk me through stuff.
Thanks,
Chris

generaly the "stuff" is devided into 2 cats
the stuff you put om it
and the rom itself
if you have the rom file you got on the pda or download the rom version you got the 2th
the rom on your device is not enuiqe and is just the same as any other rom of the same version from the same provider in case you got a custom rom from a phoneoperator like orange or o2 or.....
first one is pretty much what activesync sync and a new phone or a phone with a new rom can get access to the same stuff when synced to the pc apart from the programs later installed though same goes for a pda upgraded to a later rom and later downgraded to an earlier rom
speritebackup and such backup programs does what activesync does plus auto reinstall programs manualy installed lated on

Xperia Prototype - Need massive amount of help!

Hello!
In my previous post i asked for the best ROM for the X1, ive already downloaded the image file for a ROM called "EnergyROM_KOVSKY_20090805_Standard".
Now i just want to know how to Apply it to the phone.
What do i need to change in the phone before installing the ROM?
Is it even possible to change ROM in a prototype?
I also have problems updating my ROM (when i tried it before)...RUU gives me error code 262.
AS you may notice, im really retarded when it comes to this, but hopefully i will learn sometime.
I will post some device info. Just so you know whats inside the phone.
Rom-Version: 1.02.936.3
Rom-Date: 08/29/08
Radioversion: 1.06.25.29
Protocall version: 52.43.25.24U
CPU: QUALCOMM(R) 7200A
Clock: 528 MHZ
RAM-Size: 256 MB
Flashmemorysize: 512 MB
Database: 32 Bit
StorageSize: 281.58 MB
Bluetooth-Version: 2.0/2.0+EDR
Firmware: R1AA017
And please: Dont redirect me to some multi thread that is named "How to flash your phone) Cause ive already tried it, but i dont understand **** there
If someone would be kind enough to give me a step by step walkthrough on how i do to upgrade just that ROM that ive downloaded. And what other programs i need to be able to fix my phone.
Thanks in advance!

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You need to check in the bootloader(tri-colored screen) what your spl is... In order to flash a custom rom it will need to say this SPL-0.72.01OliNex....if it does not say this then you need to hardspl the phone...if you follow the instructions it is easy. Once this is done then you will need this....copy the ROM you have downloaded into the CustomRUU folder and execute the file. If this does not work....you will need to format your memory card(Fat32) and follow these instructions, plus there is a video tutorial regarding all the procedures you need....the instructions are as basic as one can get.
Good luck.
Regards,
WC
Fructis said:
Hello!
In my previous post i asked for the best ROM for the X1, ive already downloaded the image file for a ROM called "EnergyROM_KOVSKY_20090805_Standard".
Now i just want to know how to Apply it to the phone.
What do i need to change in the phone before installing the ROM?
Is it even possible to change ROM in a prototype?
I also have problems updating my ROM (when i tried it before)...RUU gives me error code 262.
AS you may notice, im really retarded when it comes to this, but hopefully i will learn sometime.
I will post some device info. Just so you know whats inside the phone.
Rom-Version: 1.02.936.3
Rom-Date: 08/29/08
Radioversion: 1.06.25.29
Protocall version: 52.43.25.24U
CPU: QUALCOMM(R) 7200A
Clock: 528 MHZ
RAM-Size: 256 MB
Flashmemorysize: 512 MB
Database: 32 Bit
StorageSize: 281.58 MB
Bluetooth-Version: 2.0/2.0+EDR
Firmware: R1AA017
And please: Dont redirect me to some multi thread that is named "How to flash your phone) Cause ive already tried it, but i dont understand **** there
If someone would be kind enough to give me a step by step walkthrough on how i do to upgrade just that ROM that ive downloaded. And what other programs i need to be able to fix my phone.
Thanks in advance!
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Thanks for the first good reply...Onfortunatly when i try and update it just say update error 284...

a noob with a professional phone?
know nothing but using a prototype phone.. lols...

devalian said:
a noob with a professional phone?
know nothing but using a prototype phone.. lols...
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You mean that no person with a general knowledge about flashing rom = busting warranty shouldnt be allowed using a phone?
How do you know anything about what i do with the phone, with what apps im using, and what im using it for?
Mind your own business and come back to the thread when you have something to contribrute.

Fructis said:
Thanks for the first good reply...Onfortunatly when i try and update it just say update error 284...
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There's a list of error messages here somewhere. Maybe you can find it here. I think the answer is here. It sais just try again after turning off and turning it back on again
btw, being rude to other users isn't going to help you get your questions answered any faster. Updating roms isn't that hard anymore, but you need to be carefull and know what you're doing. If you don't understand how flashing works and what you need to do for that, you can read the stickies in this rom section. I think it's explained very clearly and step by step lots of times.
edit: looking at all your posts, it seems you've asked the same about three times, and most things kan be found easily by google or the xda forum search. Maybe try a bit harder before asking here?
if you don't like criticism, just ignore my post; everybody has to learn to work with windows mobile, but the only way is to try a lot yourself, search, try some more, search again, then ask and try some of the answers given. Don't get agitated when not everyone is giving you the right answer in clear steps, most of the users are trying to explain as good as they can with the information provided.

the guides are pretty thorough...
if you read them its clear enough...
(assuming you want to use non official Sony roms - you need to flash your hardspl so you wont get errors... (think this is where you're stuck)...
download a hardspl and flash it via activesync)
Then
copy the rom into your sd card root directoy...
rename it to kovsimg.nbh
hit the reboot switch while holding down power and the down vol button to start the update process
this is the easiest way...
but as above, if you want shortcuts for everything and dont read the instuctions clear you MAY END UP BRICKING YOUR PHONE...

Gwystyl said:
There's a list of error messages here somewhere. Maybe you can find it here. I think the answer is here. It sais just try again after turning off and turning it back on again
btw, being rude to other users isn't going to help you get your questions answered any faster. Updating roms isn't that hard anymore, but you need to be carefull and know what you're doing. If you don't understand how flashing works and what you need to do for that, you can read the stickies in this rom section. I think it's explained very clearly and step by step lots of times.
edit: looking at all your posts, it seems you've asked the same about three times, and most things kan be found easily by google or the xda forum search. Maybe try a bit harder before asking here?
if you don't like criticism, just ignore my post; everybody has to learn to work with windows mobile, but the only way is to try a lot yourself, search, try some more, search again, then ask and try some of the answers given. Don't get agitated when not everyone is giving you the right answer in clear steps, most of the users are trying to explain as good as they can with the information provided.
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I'ts a difference in writing a post with no meaning and a post like you just did.
Example: You start a new thread, no matter what it's about. There are two guys responding.
One guy is giving you this as a answer: Lol, thats kinda noobish that you dont know how to use your phone.
The second guy answers just like you did, you gave me information and links on where and what to search for. But still points out that theres many "obvious" stuff that im asking for.
Big difference.
Back to topic. I've already figured out how to do all, i have all the files that i need.
The problem is that when i try and update the SPL to 1.00.X1 instead of thje other 1.02.Olinex (or what its called) I always get a connetion error 262.
Ive read the links that you gave me before, and it says that you need to either softreset, change usb port or reboot your computer. Guys in another thread gives the same instructions.
Still no success.
So since i've done my searching, done the exact procedure that you should do. And it's still not working. Is that still something just "obvious" to ask for?
And i apologize if i hasn't been clear enough in this thread that the phone im using is a proto. And i still haven't been confirmed by some other proto user that this method is acctually working.
I'm thankfull for all the (helpfull) responses i get. And im trying them all.
If something else comes up i will post it in this thread. No matter if its obvious or not.
Have a nice day everyone!

Looks like there's a connection error when your phone reboots to go into tri-color boot menu.
Google for USB Mass storage device, download the driver and install it and then try again.
Of course you have to find the right driver for your OS.

CharlieSImon said:
Looks like there's a connection error when your phone reboots to go into tri-color boot menu.
Google for USB Mass storage device, download the driver and install it and then try again.
Of course you have to find the right driver for your OS.
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haha, damn, thats obvious, that i didnt think of that before. hehe, thank you!
Btw, if the phone gets into the tricolor menu, and the progressbar shows up (but still stuck at 0%) can it still be because the driver?
Thanks

if its stuck at 0% it means you're not flashing a compatible rom...
obviously you havent flashed the spl...
flash a OFFICIAL sony rom first... if you still have issues at least you know its either the 'prototype' hardware
or your PC...
which i'd suggest try flashing from another PC...

ryousuke said:
if its stuck at 0% it means you're not flashing a compatible rom...
obviously you havent flashed the spl...
flash a OFFICIAL sony rom first... if you still have issues at least you know its either the 'prototype' hardware
or your PC...
which i'd suggest try flashing from another PC...
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Oh, im sorry if i didnt expressed myself good enough.
When im using X1_HardSPL i get the 284 update error.
When in using the custom RUU i get the 262 error.
So i guess the X1_HardSPL application is to change SPL?
If i cant seem to change SPL i wont be able to change rom either. Correct?
Since i have the SPL that was shipped with the phone, can i still upgrade from R1A to R3A without changing SPL?

Have you disabled any of your firewall and anti virus programs when you try using the software?
I previously always had to disable my zonealarm firewall before I could uset he spl software....

Yes I've done.

yes if you have the stock SPL you can upgrade from R1a to R3a with the standard SE update utility.
which can be downloaded at the SE site under support.

lrammers said:
yes if you have the stock SPL you can upgrade from R1a to R3a with the standard SE update utility.
which can be downloaded at the SE site under support.
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The Phone is still a Proto.....
Therefor not accepted by SEUS

Try flashing the official Sony Ericsson ROMs first. No need to Hard-spl for those.

I cant install R3A :S
It says "No image found" bootloader.
And the card is FAT32, and the file is named Kovsimg.nbh
And yes, its placed in the root of the Card.

Fructis said:
I cant install R3A :S
It says "No image found" bootloader.
And the card is FAT32, and the file is named Kovsimg.nbh
And yes, its placed in the root of the Card.
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And if you try to flash via ActiveSync with CustomRUU? That worked most of the times with my X1. Oh wait, that got you the error 262.
In one of your other threads someone says (or you quoted) that one of the advantages of a proto was that there's no security check, which means it might not even be necessary to use HardSPL first.
I've had error 262 a few times; just try to flash again, maybe from another computer if that's possible. You can also try to flash another rom first.
Which roms have you tried flashing? Have you tried with a freshly formatted sd-card smaller than 2 gb (although I think that won't have any effect); you can also try renaming kovsimg.nbh with all small letters, all capitals or the way you just spelled it. It might be important.
offtopic: I get your point on the reactions you get when opening new threads. Everything is simple when you now where to look or if you've done it before, but it can be very hard to find the answer when there's so much info to choose from.
That said: a topic title of something like "having trouble flashig a custom rom to prototype" sounds a bit more serious then "need massive help" with a lot of exclamation marks. That might set people off on the wrong foot.

Help.. I f..... up.. again :)

I am trying to get the cool 4 shortcut buttons and was directed to something called Cookies Home Tab. I installed it but no program showed up.
I would then try and uninstall it an install it again with sense deactivated, but when choosing uninstall on the program (which shows up on the "remove program" menu, but not in the start menu) the "busy-cursor" is just rotating and nothing happens. I tried powering off and try again, and the same thing happens: It says its uninstalling, but it takes forever and nothing happends.
Can someone help? How do I get the program properly installed. I am running a danish original rom and assumed it would be compatible when directed there. I am not sure where to find my sense version. Can it be that its 2.16xxxxx or is that windows?

came99 said:
I am trying to get the cool 4 shortcut buttons and was directed to something called Cookies Home Tab. I installed it but no program showed up.
I would then try and uninstall it an install it again with sense deactivated, but when choosing uninstall on the program (which shows up on the "remove program" menu, but not in the start menu) the "busy-cursor" is just rotating and nothing happens. I tried powering off and try again, and the same thing happens: It says its uninstalling, but it takes forever and nothing happends.
Can someone help? How do I get the program properly installed. I am running a danish original rom and assumed it would be compatible when directed there. I am not sure where to find my sense version. Can it be that its 2.16xxxxx or is that windows?
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If you cannot find your manila version, or at least search on how to find it, you really need to learn more before you mess up your phone.
I assume you did a hard reset after your registry issue. If not I suggest you do as you will probably have to do it a few times as you attempt to customize your device.
Your manila version can be found in Settings\Device Info\Software Info.
Read the thread on Cookies Home tab for compatable versions and install instructions. Post your questions there.
p.s. Thanks for implying...

I am really sorry for sounding like a total noob, but I DID read the post, installation instructions and whats not. I also read the "how to find your manila version" which also said to go to settings tab - device info - software info. The thing is that its danish on my phone and I cant find anything called device info on my tab, only "about" which leads me to a webpage with a lot of copyright and legal mumble jumble.
When going to settings - advanced - about the device I get a tab called version, where it says Rom Version 2.16.403.1 (67041) dan. But I dont know if thats it.
But lord, how many original stock roms can there be? Its a pretty new phone and I installed every HTC update available to me. I must say that configuring this little diamond seems to take a rocket scientist or above. I can use a computer pretty well, but getting a little modifications to the HTC UI seems to take a phd
You seem like a nice guy, and I would like to learn. Maybe you can help me out so I dont have to ask so many noobish questions. I really tried to learn by myself but it is a new world to me and it is quite overwhelming.
1) I read that installing a rom is ireversible. Does that really mean that I under no circumstances can replace the original software? Is a cooked rom really a whole other OS and replace windows mobile 6.5 completely? Or is it just a modified windows?
2) What is the distinction between HTC Sense, Touch Flo and Manila, if any? As far as I read the black and white icons is manila and the colored ones is sense... Is that true? And does that mean that I cant use any programs that needs manila to run if I have the HTC Ui with the colored icons?
I hope the above questions helps me to a basic understanding, so I further on dont have to ask so many questions.
PS) after installing TD2 tools my screen rotation line in my system registry came back, and I got rid of the landscape.. Thats one problem solved. Call recording aswell. If I find a way to get these 4 shortcut-buttons available and set one of them to my to-do list I think Im done.. No more tampering.. I promise.

came99 said:
1) What exactly is the difference between installing Cookies Home tab and installing another rom? As I understand it, a rom is a whole other OS, where this software only is a skin? Correct?
Correct, The ROM is the whole OS, where CHT is a modification to the Sense (Manila) UI.
2) I read that installing a rom is ireversible. Does that really mean that I under no circumstances can replace the original software?
No, You must first install hard SPL to be able to flash a cooked(custom) ROM.
Once you install HSPL, your device is considered "out of warranty".
However you can reflash a Stock ROM and then reflash Stock SPL to return the phone to the factory state for warranty purposes. So it can be reverted.
3) What is the distinction between HTC Sense and Manila, if any?
They are one and the same, also referred to as Touch Flo 3D (TF3D)
4) The original question about getting Cookie to work, if someone feels like helping.
If you have installed Cookie's Home Tab and soft reset, when you are on your home screen you should see the flip clock (assuming that in Settings\System\Home\Items is set to HTC Sense), on top right of that is a little dash, this opens up additional panels for your shortcuts.
There should also be a new program possibly in settings or \Programs\Tools called CHTEditor to access your tab settings.
I suspect that it installed, you just didn't know how to access it.
Lemme know.
PS) after installing TD2 tools my screen rotation line in my system registry came back, and I got rid of the landscape.. Thats one problem solved. Call recording aswell. If I find a way to get these 4 shortcut-buttons available I think Im done.. No more tampering.. I promise.
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See above for answers. One quick word of advice; If the program interfaces with your today screen, phone functions, etc. install to device memory and never to Storage Card. Programs that just tweak the registry and settings can be installed to SD card.
Uhm, and I wouldn't be promising anything because its addicting. Once you pop, you can't stop!

Sorry.. I edited my post while you were answering. I found the preguide to roms which was just about basic enough to enlighten me. Your answers helped a lot to, and everything fell into place.
I do think that I will stay away from flashing as it seems like risky business.. The option to hard-reset without to much hassle seems like the emergency brake I like available to me
At the moment I am trying to reinstall Cookies Home Tab, but the installation just hangs.. Probably because it wasnt uninstalled correctly. Any tips other than Hard Resetting which means several hours of setup
Edit: Ahh f... it.. I may aswell do it.. All the tampering made my phone slow anyway.. Now I know what I need and can get it to work without too much experimenting..
Thanks dude.

I did some research on your stock ROM and it looks like you are running Manila 2.1 which is the older version so many tweaks you are attempting may be for 2.5.
You would be better off changing ROMs.
Here is a download of our stock ROM for warranty purposes, keep it just in case. You may have to register for the site, but you may also find a nice cooked ROM in your language on that site. Dutty is a great chef and I use his ROMs because of their stability.
I can attempt to walk you through HSPL, but there have been many issues lately. Almost seems like the only way to get it to work is to "donate" to the developer.

Okay Mr Dope Pusher.. i see where you are going.. Telling me to stay away from these sheningans and 1 hour later you got me hooked anyway
Jokes aside.. Yes.. I Do think I am gonna need some help here.. While the stock backup rom is downloading I will try and find out for myself, but I would very much like some confirmation on what to do before I take the leap.. Stay tuned and thank you very much.. Your help is very appriciated.

I have a question though.. Now I downloaded the stock rom, but what if my phone breaks when Duttys Rom is installed.. Then I wont be able to reinstall the original rom before sending it in for repair. And then Im screwed warranty wise, right?

..., in anticipation of your next question;
As long as you have over 50% battery and do not interupt the flash (unplug the USB) there are very few chances of it bricking.
I have never had it happen and most errors are correctable with a hard reset. It really sounds worse than it is.
Most devices get bricked because the user attempts to flash a cooked ROM w/o HSPL or a ROM or radio from another device.
I have attached 3 files.
Do the following after you download these files;
1. Remove your SIM and SD card.
2. Sync your device to your PC through Active Sync or WMDC depending on your windows version.
2. Copy the enablenewrapi.cab to your device through file explorer and install
to device memory.
3. Open both the SPL 1.83 and the RUU zip files and place contents of both into a new folder.
4. Run the RUU.exe and you should see a progress screen appear.
5. With any luck, you won't get stuck at 0% and the flash will complete.
As the screen states, it may take up to 10 minutes. You will see your device disconnect from active sync, which is normal. Let it run until it completes and do not open anything or let your PC go into standby. Also, you may want to disable your AV and any firewalls as these can mess with the installation.
Make sure you have greater than 50% battery before you attempt this as any interuption during the flashing process can brick your device.
If the steps above complete, you can go into bootloader mode by holding down both volume keys right after you hit the soft reset buton, but before the device begins to boot. You may have to try a couple of times if you are not fast enough. Or you can power off the device then hold both volume keys and press the power button. In bootloader mode which is a tri colored screen, you should see SPL: 1.83.Olinex, then you will know it has installed correctly.
From this point, you are able to flash any cooked Topaz ROM.
The ROM flashing process is the same as HSPL in regards to placing the ROM's .nbh file into the same folder as the custom RUU.exe, so keep that RUU.exe file for future use.
You need only flash HSPL once to continue to flash as many ROMS as you like.
If you ever have to revert to stock, you would install the ROM you downloaded, then find the StockSPL file from the HSPL thread and follow the instructions.
Always hard reset after you flash a new ROM.
**If you are not successful in flashing HSPL, you will need to go to the HSPL thread and read up on opening a ticket with HTC Support, which will give you an autoinstaller that will work once you donate through the program. I believe they are asking for 4gbp.

Ok.. And one of the above files is the Dutty Rom? Edit: Oh I se.. It isnt.. I will download it then..
Will it look and feel similar to Sense, just with more features and customisation options?
You write: Most devices get bricked because the user attempts to flash a cooked ROM w/o HSPL or a ROM or radio from another device.
Can you please elaborate? I understand it like you need to make sure I install the hspl first before cooking, but "radio" from another device. Please explain it for a dummy as me, so I dont attempt to do it by accident.

came99 said:
Ok.. And one of the above files is the Dutty Rom? Is it available in danish as is, or do I have to do something.
Will it look and feel similar to Sense, just with more features and customization options?
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No, I have not provided you with a ROM, just the HSPL unlocker.
You can go to HTCPedia and search for a Danish ROM with manila 2.5, or take a look through the ROM development thread and find one from another chef. It should have Sense installed but 2.5 unless it states otherwise. 2.5 has more features and functions and is the most current.
Many ROMs are multilanguage so I believe you select your region language when the ROM first loads. Just look for one that supports DAN. I use WWE (World Wide English) so I am not experienced with multilanguage variations.
Just make sure your HSPL is successful before you attempt to flash a ROM.
If you search hard enough you may even find a ROM with CHT cooked in which will alleviate you from having to install it yourself, but I suspect that your previous install didn't work because your on Sense 2.1
I have never used CHT, but use Max Manila Themes which is just a different mod, but I am thinking about trying CHT.
I'll take a look and see what I can find.
Regarding Radios;
A stock ROM comes with the OS and Radio ROM.
Most cooked ROMs take just the OS and tweak it for best performance, adding programs, removing other useless programs and do not include the radio ROM, therefore you will still have your stock Radio unless you flash a cooked ROM that has included the radio (usually denoted in the title of the ROM by the radio#, i.e. 4.49.25.57 (which is a Topaz radio version)
The only time you can brick is you attempt to install a radio from another device (sometimes they work better) such as a Blackstone radio to a Topaz device unless your SIM is unlocked or attempting to flash a Topaz radio w/o HSPL.
Personally, there are enough Topaz radios posted in the radio thread that I don't need my SIM unlocked to try others.
Symptoms of a problem radio are poor signal strength, rapid battery loss and your device heating up.
I have switched my radio ROM a few times but honestly haven't noticed a difference from my stock radio.
The stock ROM you downloaded would replace your Stock Radio if you happen to flash to a different one.
Your region and carrier are also a factor in choosing a radio, so again, just stick to stock unless you have issues.

Dude.. That radio thingie made me EXTREMELY paranoid and I see that there is dozens of different roms from dutty and thousands of rom in general where many of them seems to come with radio-thingies... I am extremely afraid of choosing something that will brick my system, so please, please help me through this, even though you already have been extremely helpful.
If I were on my own, I would go with this:
http://htcpedia.com/duttys_topaz_wm_leo_r_rtm_e11d19c3e22de899a/soft/htc-topaz-rom.html
But to be honest I dont know if it will work on my device or if I will be able to get it with a danish language pack..
Please help me choose the right one.... I am ready to rock, so I hope for a quick reply, and I promise I will do a extra good deed tomorrow to repay the world for all the help you gave me tonight.

came99 said:
Dude.. That radio thingie made me ETREMELY paranoid and I see that there is dozens of different roms from dutty and thousands of rom aswell where many of them seems to come with radio-thingies... I am extremely afraid of choosing something that will brick my system, so please, please help me through this, even though you already have been extremely helpful.
If I were on my own, I would go with this:
http://htcpedia.com/duttys_topaz_wm_leo_r_rtm_e11d19c3e22de899a/soft/htc-topaz-rom.html
But to be honest I dont know if it will work on my device or if I will be able to get it with a danish language pack..
Please help me choose the right one.... I am ready to rock, so I hope for a quick reply.
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Don't sweat it Bro, if its posted as a Topaz ROM then its got the Topaz Radio, the only thing you risk is not being able to connect to certain 3G bands.
I've used Dutty's R-8 and its not a bad ROM, but its a little outdated and I didn't see that it had multi language support.
I am really having a hard time locating a Danish language ROM.
I find FRE. GER, ITA, ESN, NLD, WWE, but no DAN????

"I am really having a hard time locating a Danish language ROM.
I find FRE. GER, ITA, ESN, NLD, WWE, but no DAN????"
Then it aint just me being total clueless.. I cant find any either..
Im bafled by this world.. I basically have two modest demands: To record calls in mp3 and get easy access to my to-do list.. preferably on my homescreen, but just as good by one of the nifty Hotbuttons Ive seen in pictures..
To get those two modest demands fulfilled I either:
- Need to give up on my danish interface and crack my phone beyond warranty and a chance of bricking it.
- Disable HTC sense and go with WM interface
I know how limited I would be with any other phone, but this road I got myself on is really amazing

came99 said:
"I am really having a hard time locating a Danish language ROM.
I find FRE. GER, ITA, ESN, NLD, WWE, but no DAN????"
Then it aint just me being total clueless.. I cant find any either..
Im bafled by this world.. I basically have two modest demands: To record calls in mp3 and get easy access to my to-do list.. preferably on my homescreen, but just as good by one of the nifty Hotbuttons Ive seen in pictures..
To get those two modest demands fulfilled I either:
- Need to give up on my danish interface and crack my phone beyond warranty and a chance of bricking it.
- Disable HTC sense and go with WM interface
I know how limited I would be with any other phone, but this road I got myself on is really amazing
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I found some Danish support threads, just search Danish Topaz in XDA and you may find something to load over a WWE rom.
Personnaly I think you will be disappointed if you do not take the plunge.
I had a Rhodium before my Topaz and once I go tmy Topaz, I couldn't stand it. It wouldn't do half the **** my Rhodium did. Because I had my Rhodium flashed to custom.
Finally HSPL was released and I flashed it immediately and can't believe I ever liked that other brick of a phone.
Take your time, get comfy with the process first, and read lots on the language packs.
The brick warning is just a disclaimer and it is very difficult to achieve if you follow the steps correctly.
I know these are expensive toys to take a chance on, but they really are only at 50% capacity out of the box. What a waste....

Bruce, dude, you're a saint. This is why so many folks look to xda for help. You should be commended, but probably won't be! You got my vote.

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Bruce, dude, you're a saint. This is why so many folks look to xda for help. You should be commended, but probably won't be! You got my vote.
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Thanks JD!
Is that commended or condemed???
Just trying to give a little back.
Greetz from SoCal.

I agree.. The helpfulnes here has been overwhelming, and has given me the bravery to try this out. But I am still very nervous.
Let me sum up what I learned from tonight.
1) When following your instructions I will have a phone which I can modify with custom roms.
2) As long as I am 100 % sure the rom is for Topaz I dont have to worry about messing up and bricking my phone due to doing wrong stuff to the radio-thingie? (yes, I still dont understand what that is)
3) I will be able to get back to factory defaults and warranty by installing the official rom you linked and afterwards install the original spl thingie afterwards?
4) Should I mess up and brick my phone, there is a fair chance of being able to restore it by the help of another device and a micro SD-card? (See I DO try and learn myself.. (Its probably incorrect though ))
5) I need to give up on the danish interface, but I will without too much hassle be able to get a danish keyboard?
6) To be absolutely sure not choosing a wrong ROM, please confirm this one as a possible choice: "Duttys Topaz HG R10 [5.2.23541.5.5.0]"
It is downloading and I am ready to take the leap... Geronimoooo!

came99 said:
I agree.. The helpfulnes here has been overwhelming, and has given me the bravery to try this out. But I am still very nervous.
Let me sum up what I learned from tonight.
1) When following your instructions I will have a phone which I can modify with custom roms.
Yes
2) As long as I am 100 % sure the rom is for Topaz I dont have to worry about messing up and bricking my phone due to doing wrong stuff to the radio-thingie? (yes, I still dont understand what that is)
Radio controls cell signal, GPS and WiFi connections.
3) I will be able to get back to factory defaults and warranty by installing the official rom you linked and afterwards install the original spl thingie afterwards?
Yes
4) Should I mess up and brick my phone, there is a fair chance of being able to restore it by the help of another device and a micro SD-card? (See I DO try and learn myself.. (Its probably incorrect though ))
Exactly.
5) I need to give up on the danish interface, but I will without too much hassle be able to get a danish keyboard?
Bingo!
6) To be absolutely sure not choosing a wrong ROM, please confirm this one as a possible choice: "Duttys Topaz HG R10 [5.2.23541.5.5.0]"
That's the one I am currently running. Great ROM!
It is downloading and I am ready to take the leap... Geronimoooo!
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I'm usually not on the forum as much on the weekends but if you get stuck, shoot me a PM which will notify my e-mail and I'll see if I can help.
I take it you were successful with HSPL? If so, thats most of the battle!
Peace!

"5. With any luck, you won't get stuck at 0% and the flash will complete."
Well... Guess what...
Can someone please help.. Im stucked here and having a stroke.
Edit: Tried on 2 different computers and its the same: Stuck on 0 %.. Antivirus disabled.