Hi,
I just got a Titan with Sprint and have tons of stupid questions. Is there a category in here where people won't mind me asking my questions? I'm new to mobile in particular, mobile windows, mobile devices but not new to windows and linux in general on desktop. So I have questions about imaging my device, cooking my own roms (for instance I've gotten my grubby little hands on the 3.16 GPS/EVDO revA test rom), recovering from disaster, etc before I start messing with and bricking my device. I want to make sure I can recovery after installing Google's android for example as I'm sure I'll probably kill it many times trying.
Thanks,
Chris
when i got here pre getting a wallaby i never even used a pocketpc before
was here for a long while before getting one
general pc knowlage and mainly pc knowlage
made it possible for me to help others who had pda's
before i got one myself
well that and reading other peoples posts
in general people dont mind any questions - no matter how "stupid" as long as you have taken the time and effort to search first.
There are many guides already posted on how to cook roms. This is not a simple task so take things one step at a time.
nose>grindstone
OK, thanks for clarifying. I guess I have two main generic questions to start.
Before I get started, what is the best way to create a complete backup image of my current setup? I've tried to find this out but I keep only seeing things about sprite backup and/or active sync but I suspect I need something else. I recall something about scraping a rom off your device but they didn't go into details. Plus I'm not very clear about the boot loader. Do I need to modify the boot loader and if I do will that screw up my chances of trying other things like Google's Android linux or other cooked windows mobile roms?
Lets assume I can figure out how to use a rom kitchen or whatever other tools I'll need to customize a rom to my liking, I get the feeling I shouldn't just dive in and start modifying things "willynilly" as things will go badly. What do I need to be careful about modifying and what can go wrong? I've only briefly glanced over some rom cooking threads as I wasn't sure where to start and if the instructions are extremely device-model-"centric" or not.
I'm happy to read or follow howtos if I just get links. I don't expect anybody to walk me through stuff.
Thanks,
Chris
generaly the "stuff" is devided into 2 cats
the stuff you put om it
and the rom itself
if you have the rom file you got on the pda or download the rom version you got the 2th
the rom on your device is not enuiqe and is just the same as any other rom of the same version from the same provider in case you got a custom rom from a phoneoperator like orange or o2 or.....
first one is pretty much what activesync sync and a new phone or a phone with a new rom can get access to the same stuff when synced to the pc apart from the programs later installed though same goes for a pda upgraded to a later rom and later downgraded to an earlier rom
speritebackup and such backup programs does what activesync does plus auto reinstall programs manualy installed lated on
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i just installed this and my phone rebooted, whats the next step to getting HTC Rom on my phone?
also, how do i install .cabs? where do i upload them
ive read the stickies and wiki but its all confusing, can someone just explain it in laymans terms
All HardSPL does is unlock the ROM portion of your phone so that you can load new ones from any provider. Now you have to download the ROM that you want to load, and follow the instructions.
As far as getting cabs onto your phone, there are a lot of ways to do it, but the easiest is to connect to ActiveSync, Click the Explore button on the ActiveSync window, and copy the cabs someplace where you can easily find them (I put them in the root of my Storage Card). Then open File Explorer on your phone, navigate to that directory, and tap the cab. That will start the installer.
If you're having this much trouble doing this, though, I'd advise against loading a custom ROM and things of that nature. While it's possible to recover from a mistake, it might be beyond your proficiency level.
If you are asking how to install a CAB, IMHO, you should not be trying to flash your ROM.
A CAB is like a setup.exe on windows. Just copy the file to your device and open it to start the install process.
Seriously, I know it is hard figuring out all the info, and I don't even claim to know as much as I should after doing several ROM flashes on 3 different devices, but I do know it is possible to get you phone into an unusuable state for which none of the sellers will provide support for. Basically, you are on your own, and I can sya you will be hard pressed to get help without learing the ropes like the people in the know had to do. So basically, keep reading...
Try these sections...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=259
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes (the hermes was one of the best selling and most upgraded of the HTC devices so there is a lot to be learned from it)
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeForBeginners
If it doesn't make sense, learn some more and reread them when you have more context to fill in the gaps.
Hope this helps
I've been reading and trying this for days with no luck. I've fully unlocked my wizard and I'm now trying to flash to the 318 rom. But I have no clue how to do it. Could someone walk me through ho to do it? Most of the flashing done thus far has been an EXE file or through DOS. I must be missing something simple.
please help
follow this thread, enjoy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
mikaarce said:
follow this thread, enjoy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
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I followed that one already. That's how I unlocked it. But all step 3.8 says is "your ready to flash...". Right now I don't understand exactly how to flash and I'd prefer not to "trial and error" it.
However, this morning I did open up the Hypercore kitchen and I think I'm on the right track. I'm at work so I can't try anything but I've printed up everything in that thread including all it's links and I'm going to give it a go once I get home. I'll report back once that's done.
Alright, after some more research and reading in the hypercore kitchen thread and all it's links, I think I may have it figured out.
I download and extract the files for the ROM I want, in this case 318 8.1 from theloon.
I then follow the instructions linked int he hypercore thread with dumping, and the pkgtool, buildos, etc.. If followed correctly, my wizard should be flashed with the new rom correct?
A confirmation would be nice. Any other comments you have are a bonus.
Another question though; what's the difference between the programs contained in the SYS and OEM folders compared to the ones in the build OS that i have the select? Aren't the ones in the folders already included in the ROM?
Your help would be greatly appreciated. I don't get confused too easily so as you can imagine i'm quite frustrated. I used to flash new versions and programs to my Razr but it was nothing like this.
dont get me wrong are you trying to cook your own rom, because hypercore is a kitchen, i suggest you download one of the roms that are made by reputable cooks, like the NBD series, TNT series, paradox, xmr, faria's, ingenetics, octavio's they differ in the apps and costumization included in the os and the builds, so just select download and flash
there's an executable file inside the roms once you unzip it and be careful if your using xp or vista
The only things I've been working with up until this point is BuildOS and nb2nbf. I haven't fully grasped the definition of "cooking" yet; whether it means altering files for my self or if the BuildOS selection list is considered cooking.
I think i was trying to do too much and using a file different from the one being referenced in the tutorial was a bit confusing. So to start, I decided to use Faria's Crossbow and the tutorial that came with it. It was very easy and I was able to flash my Wizard to that ROM without a problem. But the one i really want is Theloon's 318.
So, based off of what I learned last night I figured I just needed to replace the OEM, ROM, and SYS folders that came up when I unzipped Faria's crossbow with the ones from 318. Is this correct? Because I just tried that this morning and I get all the way to the CMD prompt right before it opens nb2nbf and it gives me an error (see attacment). If there's one thing I've learned from all these bricked devices floating around, it's to NEVER proceed when an error occurs.
What does this error mean? How can I fix it? Is my moving of the folders wrong? What am i missing?
just messin around trying to see what tools work, i got another error.
Ok, now I've got a bigger problem. I finally figured out what I was doing wrong. It's actually a lot simpler than I thought. i was just making it more complicated. Ok, I tarted the flash and at about 47%, it gave me a memory reference error. Now my Wizard won't go past the three-color screen and all it shows is my IPL/SPL 3.08. ActiveSync won't detect it, tried hard resetting, turning on while holding camera button, etc. What do i do now?
Now you start thinking... "Maybe I should have read the stickies on the Upgrading forums... bummer..."
The 3 color screen is called the BootLoader. As long you get that screen, your phone can be recovered. How to recover it?
- Use a Windows XP PC.
- Download Wizard_Love Rom (its somewhere, use google or search the forum, but then again, you wouldn't be having this problems IF you knew how to use the search button!)
- Press and hold CAMERA button and hit the reset, keeping the camera button pressed.
- Connect the Wizard to your pc using the USB cable.
- Start the Wizard_Love RUU utility that comes with it.
- Just press next until it starts flashing the ROM to it.
- Pray for it to finish without touching anything until the RUU says CONGRATULATIONS.
There... your phone is working again.
READ THE STICKIES BEFORE DOING ANYTHING AND USE THE SEARCH!
THIS QUESTION HAS BEEN ANSWERED FOR TOO MANY TIMES ALREADY!!!
PS: Maybe we should create a thread for helping the guys that don't follow stickies or care about the ALREADY info we have here... something like:
- 3 color screen: do this
- different IPL/SPL G3 on a G4 device: you are screwed.
I definately read the stickies over and over again. I've got a stack of printouts sitting in front of me that I've been reading for the past week.
I understand your frustration about questions like this but that's no reason to be rude. I used to be a moderator on pbnation.com so I know exactly how you feel. But the fact of the matter is that I'm not as familiar with these things as you are. I fixed the bootloader issue before I even read your response. i found the answer by re-reading one of my printouts that said the re-flash with official rom. So i did that and it worked. I knew I'd get flamed for posting but since I had already had a thread created, I figured it wouldn't hurt to post updates on my status.
I know how to flash roms now. It's actually quite easy. However, I ran into some issues that I'd like to explain in hopes that you realize I'm not taking advantage of you or not utilizing the tools and stickies.
i was having problems yesterday because of my work computer (I think). When extracting the files from Hypercore, they were not placed where they should have been and the tools wouldn't work properly. An example would be when opening buildOS it would give me the yes or no prompts. An IT friend allowed me to use his non-work laptop to do the exact same thing and I was able to use it without a hitch. The simple tmobile official rom update wouldn't even work on my work computer. So it's not just me.
I knew there was a reason that i couldn't follow it.
Regardless of your approach, I still thank you for your help.
I didn't mean to be rude... sorry about that. Its just that from your post count I thought your were like a newcomer like those that come here all the time, asking the same questions over and over again. Netherless, sorry for "helping" you the way I did.
I will have some tea now to relax care to join?
do ppl install and enable multi roms--like multiboot on pc?
or do they hafto recompile or such to get tweaks like they want?
like ala carte.. pick and choose and recompile
or do they just find what they like best?
im assuming that a rom completely wipes out and starts phone fresh?
thanx
Answer is probably very simple: no
Don't ask me technical details, but that's just the way it is. Android, due to it's nature, can be run on an existing ROM (making it a sort of multiboot...)
amkaos said:
do ppl install and enable multi roms--like multiboot on pc?
or do they hafto recompile or such to get tweaks like they want?
like ala carte.. pick and choose and recompile
or do they just find what they like best?
im assuming that a rom completely wipes out and starts phone fresh?
thanx
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Dual boot is not possible with our devices as of yet. I am not even sure if this is doable at all. People who are technical and capable cook their own ROM and use it. Others just find what they like the best and use it. And yes, you are correct that flashing a new ROM completely wipes out the device; however, some files could be left behind from old installation so one of the steps in flashing recommends hard-resetting your device to completely clean the memory.
so android is for kaiser only and i assume that this means Not Tilt?
that android page has 386 posts to wade thru...
the terms kaiser and tilt are not completely interchangeable?
thanx
The Kaiser and Tilt terms are quite interchangable. There are some differences, but Kaiser is the general HTC codename for the device, and Tilt is just a branded version of the Kaiser (with some naunces; a subversion you might say).
Andriod can be used on a Tilt.
I have just got a HTC Diamond, this is my first WM phone (had IPAQ –non hone in the past). I have spent the last few days reading many threads, on many subjects. I am now familiar the language used here i.e. cooked ROM etc.
My question is really can someone supply in a simple thread a quick 1-2-3 guide on how to start loading and trying different ROMS. i.e. Tools\Software required, how to backup original manufactures ROM, How to install new ROMs etc etc.
I have used the search button and found lots of info, much of which is not related to Diamond so not sure if it is relevant.
I may get shot don for this; however I am sure there are many people in the same situation as me, and with the popularity of the Diamond more to come.
Any positive feedback welcomed
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Quick 1-2-3 guide:
1. Flash with HardSPL(IMO)
2. Flash with new ROM (Panoshas IMO)
3. Enjoy!! Beware fast moving Jewels after ROM update can cause injury
Start with this thread 2nd post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400950
once you have a hardspl installed on your device you can flash any rom you like to try. (flashing hardspl causes your device to reset just like it is a new device.)
From this point you just need to read and learn from the link above.
If you really searched on how to load new ROMs onto the Diamond and couldn't find anything, check your vision. This link is posted in many threads:
http://modmydiamond.info/
I have the Diamond and really like it but it is so slow as we know. I've trawled round the site but am a total noob to this. I read about hardspl (i think) and flashing roms and advanced config....I just want to speed up the device and dont know where to start. I've turned off all the whistles and bells and the handset is on Orange with a 1.37 ROM. Tried installing the advanced config. but it told me I need a newer framework thingy and now the icon is stuck on the device and I just want to throw it at the wall. I know you guys are busy as hell and that a total noob just kinda gets in the way but could someone just tell me what I need, where I get it and where I put it on the damn phone If someone can I'll get the Mrs to make you tea
Sorry guys but I have tried but am not that techy minded
Hey dude, don't worry.
Check this site out - http://modmydiamond.info/
Read through the radio and rom installation guides carefully. It's very easy to follow and you will have upgraded in no time at all. As for which ROM, I use Swift bl v.6. It's very stable and quick and includes adv config in it anyway. But there are many so check out the rom section of this forum and see what people say, same goes for the radios. Installing a new rom will wipe the data on your Diamond, so it should get rid of that icon problem anyway mate.
I don't know why noobs get such a hard time, this site can be bewildering due to the vast info presented and some of us don't have the time to trawl through it all - espically as lots of it seems so advanced.
Anyway, good luck.
I'll try to make it simple as I can, because just over a month ago I was a noob in the same boat as you... So I know the learning curve is pretty steep, but once you start plodding up it, it does level out.
BUT before you go any further, read and understand all of this very useful check list here...
Also, it'll help to keep this list handy throughout the procedures.
So, keeping it simple, go for HardSPL 1.24 from here. Flash 1.24 by following the instructions in post #1 of that thread... follow these instructions to the letter mind, that is the key!
Once you have your HardSPL successfully flashed, go get ROM 1.93.405.1_WWE from here.
This file is self extracting, and automates the flashing process, so all you have to do is follow the instructions given as it leads you through, and if in doubt, just re-read the two sets of the instructions I've pointed out to you (everything you need is in there).
Do all that precisely as instructed, and you'll be all tooled up with the latest and quickest standard HTC ROM for a UK device... Like you, I was on a UK Orange .37 ROM, and I found a welcome increase in performance when I went to .93
Ps, don't be put off by the RUU utility when you get to the page where it looks as if it's trying to update your current main rom with your radio rom... just keep on going, it isn't touching the main rom provided it is flashing only a radio... you'll see what I mean when you get to that stage.
Pps, I'm going to say it again... make sure you backup any very important data you may have on your phone... and ultimately there are no absolute guarantees when flashing devices, and you will see it many times written on this site that you can only get flashy with your device if you're prepared to proceed on this basis.
Otherwise Enjoy
Edit; oops, didn't see you there simcarloc... that's what my post was meant to look like before I got too carried away.
Take a look ath the Diamond Rom forum there are very good guide and step by step guides
Thanks guys, I'm going to have a look at what you directed me to this morning. I run a forum for a car club and I know when people first join up it can be hugely daunting and a tad scary, even with the best intentions noobs can get freaked out somewhat....cue me
Thanks for putting this in "laymans" terms for me as I think that is what noobs need first off and we'll pick the rest of it up as we go along, its not laziness on our part, personally I just had head data overload and was losing the will to live I'll go look at the stuff you've posted and let you know how I get on.
Once again thanks for taking the time out to explain in a language I may just be able to get my head round Thanks guys.
One quick Q....runn diamond-sspl.bat? How and where is this?
Its not playing
Probably my fault but all I get is..
There is no application associated with "diamond-sspl" or whatever folder I try, it keeps telling me to run the app first, but I have no idea what I'm doing now. Also tells me the framework isn't present. No idea.
Guess I'll be sticking with a slow device Thanks anyway guys
Hey there LoudyMcLoud,
Like you I am somewhat of a noob too…
But since you have a problem I encountered before (framework issue) I might be able to help you out in this first stage.
My device kept giving the message that my Framework was not up to date when I wanted to install a program. I went to search for the latest framework version at MS, and found the latest (beta) release. I installed that, and then I got the message that my framework was a newer version then needed…. Ahhh help me god.
So I took the easy way out, a hard reset did the trick for me (press and hold volume down + centre button + the soft reset button located in the stylus opening)
Remember, this procedure too, will wipe all date from your device, it will restore itself to the way it was when you first bought it.
Maybe after this you can use the steps mentioned earlier in this thread.
Good luck with your Diamond.
Just install the latest .net framework from microsoft that is NOT the Beta version - can't remember the version number, but this worked for me.
Good job,... hope you will get the rest sorted
LoudyMcLoud said:
One quick Q....runn diamond-sspl.bat? How and where is this?
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It's in the zip file you should have already downloaded here.
Extract all files in this zip file to their own folder, make an activesync connection with your diamond, then away you go. (For starters I recommend you choose HardSPL 1.24 when prompted.)
Latest .net is 3.5 available here.