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Kaiser 140? A new Kaiser?

I saw the following url
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1387
on PDAdb listed as new for Kaiser 140, describing what in essence is the existing Kaiser. I searched this forum for any relevant terms and cannot find anything about it. Is this a new version? Has anybody heard of it?

It is also posted on the main front page of PDAdb.net:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=main

You'd probably get more of a response if you posted this in Kaiser general, especially since this isn't software related...

Added UMTS 1700?

That must mean it's for T-Mobile US. I heard T-Mobile was supposed to be getting the Kaiser. and their 3G is 1700 band(in case you didn't already know).

I wonder if that means us AT&T people could buy one and use it roaming on TMO's 3g network.

My apologies for posting in the wrong place! I usually check only the software section, it did not occur to me.
As for cellular networks, they llist GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850, UMTS1700, UMTS1900, UMTS2100.

cbass said:
I wonder if that means us AT&T people could buy one and use it roaming on TMO's 3g network.
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I wonder if this means it has an updated hardware radio transceiver, and the rest of us are out of luck?
Would this mean there is no way to actually get 1700 through a radio flash like how Emobile's radio works on the current Kaiser without locking it to 1700MHz only, and flashing a Kaiser radio to Emobile won't give it 850/1900/2100?

I don't know, but I'd sure like to see a date on its availability and make sure those specs are real-- I travel a lot to Japan, and I want to switch to T-Mobile here in the states the second 3G gets turned on.
See, I'm with Sprint now but my contract is up September 1st. I'm supposed to be back in Japan sometime in October. My plan was to get the unlocked unbranded TYTN II from NewEgg and put it on T-mobile's flex pay plan until I leave. While I wouldn't have access to the 3G bands, T-Mo gives access to Wi-fi hotspots if you have a certain data plan, and I also have AT&T DSL service-- that gives me access to AT&T's Wi-Fi spots already. So I'm pretty much covered in most places if I need a faster conncection than EDGE.
In Japan, I'd just go with Softbank or Docomo--whichever is easiest to hook up the TYTN II to and keep SMS,MMS, and Internet to.
But after reading Emobile's plans on their site along with knowing T-Mobile USA will flip the switch on 3G on 1700MHz here in Atlanta soon... I may wait.
So will this actually support quad-band GSM/EDGE(850, 900, 1800, 1900) and quad-band HSDPA 3G (850,1900,1700,2100)?

starrwulfe said:
In Japan, I'd just go with Softbank or Docomo--whichever is easiest to hook up the TYTN II to and keep SMS,MMS, and Internet to.
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Softbank. They're the only ones that support SIMs for rental. So so rates, but you could try to negotiate to a flat-rate plan.
Otherwise, you need to do full-contract w new phone, pull the sim, and then use it in the Kaiser. But why, since Japanese phones are so much better when you're there.

vodafone Australia, which diamond ?

Hi All
hoping you can give some advice here, I'm currently with vodafone Australia and looking at buying a diamond.
Currently they are available locally as the Telstra HTC touch diamond (competing network) or via grey import models.
I understand through numerous threads that there is no quad band model as yet and that telstra uses 3g on the 850mhz band, i think but am not sure that vodafone uses 2100mhz for 3g.
I'm confused as to which handset im better off with the telstra one or a grey import.
To make it more confusing I'm going to USA and Sth America, shortly and want to make sure it roams on 3g.
HELP!!!!

no-one even has an opinion?!?
After scouring the rest of the 'net it appears that;
telstra uses 850mhz hsdpa,
vodafone and optus uses 2100mhz umts,
optus will launch 900mhz hsdpa in the near future.
I gather from this that no matter which australian carrier network i use i will not be able to use one carrier or another does someone have any further insight on this?

I think I read on Whirlpool that the Telstra handsets should work on any network - except Optus' 900mhz.
Im with Telstra (work sim), so just went with the Telstra handset.
I've got a Virgin sim I could try in it if you'd like?

that would help . . . cheers
It cant do any harm... I guess my real issue is that I want to make sure I'm getting the highest possible data speeds in whatever country I'm in and I'm not sure what difference there is between the carrier frequency's being used. I get the general impression that only telstra has 7.2mps (theoretical) speed at present, but if i go with a handset that doesnt support 900mhz and i end up with 2100mhz am i missing out on vodafone hsdpa......
im consfused

I was in the same boat when trying to figure out which Diamond to get. I jumped ship and ordered a DIAM130 (Telstra ver.).
Its my understanding that the Optus 900MHz UMTS will be for use in regional areas, whereas 2100MHz for metropolitan. A quick search of the net also indicated that 2100MHz is the dominant UMTS band throughout most of the world, with the exception of the U.S. which uses 850/1900 I believe. So I figure the DIAM130 would be the best bet if you want some sort of 3G connection whatever country you may be in.
If I'm mistaken, can someone please correct me...
EDIT: Looking back at your posts, I'm not sure if you realise this, but the DIAM100 is 900/2100 MHz UMTS and the DIAM130 is 850/2100 MHz UMTS.

Yep, I think the Helstra one with 850mhz/2100mhz looks like the best bet. It would seem that all the carriers in Oz use the 2100mhz in the cities and 850mhz or 900mhz in rural areas.
The US and Sth.America seem to use 850mhz and Europe uses 900mhz/2100mhz.
The whole reason this came up was about 2 weeks ago I went into a Helstra shop and HTC had a marquis with their own staff, they actually stated do not buy a Helstra handset wait until October 1 when the other networks will have quadband handsets. I put this down to them not knowing what they were talking about.
I cant wait any longer though and I think I'm off to JB HiFi to pickup a telstra one, whirlpool forum users have been picking them up for between $750 and $800.

I bought my Diamond from JB (telstra phone bought outright) and I use it with voda prepaid.
I can access the GSM network fine and their 3G network as well. But I force my phone to use GSM only, apparently 3G drinks more battery power.

I am on the vodaphone network ( work). I bought a diamond from a H/K supplier & have never had anytrouble using the 3g network in any of the main capital cities.
Unless you intend to use 3g A LOT in the country areas of australia, then a presumably cheaper grey import DIA 100 will do the trick.
only would suggest that you upgrade to one of the great ROMS available on this site from the generous chefs!
sorry but i think telstra are ripping off the aussie customers with the 130 model.

I have a DIAM100, it works on all networks in Australia including Telstra NextG (yes it DOES work on 850MHz HSDPA). I currently use the phone on the 3 network which use 2100MHz and get very good speeds (in excess of 3.5mbps).

Hi poedgirl,
noticed your'e using an older radio version than whats currently available.
at the risk of telling you to suck eggs, i would suggest you try the 1.00.25.08 Radio rom as the increase in signal phone strength & GPS strength was unbelievable!
thats assuming you are located in Sydney

This Post in the ROMs section pretty much covers which models you can use or will need on the various AU networks.
There are 3 3G Network Frequencies in AUS
850 MHz (NextG) - DIAM130
900 MHz Optus - DIAM100, DIAM110, DIAM200, DIAM300
2100 MHz Optus, Vodafone, Three, Telstra(use Three's) - DIAM100, DIAM110, DIAM200, DIAM300, DIAM130
ALL Diamonds have the 2100MHz frequency!
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I have a grey import DIAM100 running on Three and it has not missed a beat.

poedgirl said:
I have a DIAM100, it works on all networks in Australia including Telstra NextG (yes it DOES work on 850MHz HSDPA)..
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just out of interest how were you able to determine this?

poedgirl said:
I have a DIAM100, it works on all networks in Australia including Telstra NextG (yes it DOES work on 850MHz HSDPA). I currently use the phone on the 3 network which use 2100MHz and get very good speeds (in excess of 3.5mbps).
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sorry to disappoint, I used to think the same, but see this and this You are right - it uses HSDPA, but only on the 2100 network, outside of that network the phone will show "E" for "edge" .(which is GPRS).

Thanks timn2087, that what I thought. I suspect the Telstra branding and web interface can lead you to believe you are on the Telstra NextG network, regardless of whether you are connecting with a phone capable of 850MHz or 2100MHz. My DIAM100 (Same hardware) on 3 behaves exactly as you describe when it roams onto Telstra GSM displaying "E" for "edge".

i bought the helstra one
well i just went for it, and bought the diam130. ive gone the hardspl, radio 05, swift rom. all seems to working.
got if for $760 outright at jb hifi pitt st mall sydney store. no stress haggle said to the guy whats the best price he said $800 i said how about $760 he goes "done".
thanks for all your help everyone

logger said:
Thanks timn2087, that what I thought. I suspect the Telstra branding and web interface can lead you to believe you are on the Telstra NextG network, regardless of whether you are connecting with a phone capable of 850MHz or 2100MHz. My DIAM100 (Same hardware) on 3 behaves exactly as you describe when it roams onto Telstra GSM displaying "E" for "edge".
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correct. The DIAM130 on Next G will show a 3G icon whenever it is on 850 Mhz, occasionally this icon changes to "H" HSDPA when a data connection is active.

timn2087 said:
sorry to disappoint, I used to think the same, but see this and this You are right - it uses HSDPA, but only on the 2100 network, outside of that network the phone will show "E" for "edge" .(which is GPRS).
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Well, for one, the phone gets a HSDPA signal in Mandurah - where there is no 3 coverage (only ever get Telstra roaming there if you're with 3). Also, as others have said, if you are on 3's network, the network shows up as "3Telstra", which it does not on mine.

Differentiating US vs European Diamond

Hey guys, I was wondering how i could differentiate the US 3G Diamond vs the European 3G Diamond. I know that the European one is DIAM100 while the US Diamond is DIAM110, but i am going to buy a new one and i was wondering if there was any way to tell without opening the box (where to find the DIAM100/DIAM110 label, anything else i should look for) or turning the phone on.

i'm interested to know this aswell.. i got this diamond for awhile.. but now that HTC got new ROM updates on their site i want to know which countries i should select since this was a second hand phone

From what i can tell the American Diamond has a "Black" keypad/screen. the euro if held at an angle has a greyish shine, but the American one stays black
and i think they used different Litmus paper. Euro has Red Paper and American has white
other than that I don't think their is any way to tell..

And the cover for the sim (that little peice of metal that holds it in place). The american one has a black sticker on it, and the euro one doesn't

The Euro diamond has front facing camera while the US diamond does not. I think that is the most obvious thing to distinguish between the two.

depending on carrier some US diamonds do have front facing cameras

Here you go...Comparisions Diamond 100 and the 110
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=1386&id2=1311
And
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=1580&id2=1389&id3=1311&id4=1379&id5=1386

I mean't, would there be any way to tell which version it is from looking only at the outside cardboard box (would there be a DIAM100/DIAM110 label somewhere on the box, or would it say US 3G/EU 3G, or would it tell me what frequencies it supports: GSM 850/1800/1900, UMTS 850/1900 or GSM 900/1800/1900, UMTS 900/2100)

The only differecs vetween US and EU is the GPS Networks...
EU == GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS900, UMTS2100
and
US == GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850, UMTS1900
I hope u have enough info now, it should be attended at the box/sticker what freq's are used for it
so if u want UMTS on 1900 and GSM on 850... you need US
if u want UMTS on 2100 and GSM on 900 u need EU
But you also can look what type it is on the sticker on the box....
like this is an P3700:

I'm not talking about differences in hardware. I know those differences. I mean't, is there any way to tell which version it is, just by looking at the box. I'm pretty sure P3700 is the European version and I need an American version, so I'm still not sure how to figure out which version it is just by looking at the box

On the US Box you will see "US" insteed of "P3700"....

OK Thanks a lot

You'll have to remove the battery to take a look at the Model and serial No.
Just by looking the box ?? Hard to tell... The box should say "850MHz" I guess

Xperia X1i to X1a, is possible?

I have recently buyed to a friend this phone, and I can't connect to my provider 3G network. Reading, I saw that it is because I have X1i, and I need X1a (I live in Argentina, South America).
Well, is possible to turn my X1i to X1a?
Please help!
P.D.: Sorry for my English.

Sorry, I don't think you can do that, since this is a hardware issue....But, I'm not too sure.

Fuzalert2k said:
Sorry, I don't think you can do that, since this is a hardware issue....But, I'm not too sure.
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You just need to flash a NAM (North American) ROM if you want to change it to X1A. You can check on the ROM section of this forum.

laurence0609 said:
You just need to flash a NAM (North American) ROM if you want to change it to X1A. You can check on the ROM section of this forum.
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no..
its a chipset issue, there is nothing you can do.

^^^ what he said....

there is no way, I sold my X1i and bought an X1a because I need my HSDPA.
The slower camera framerate doesn't make a diff, I don't take videos with my phone anyways.

what is the difference between Xi1 an X1a
and which one is the latest ?
Few Weeks Back I purchased X1i
and change the ROM to ENERGY ROM .. which was the best Stable ROM SO far.
please suggest

"what is the difference between Xi1 an X1a
and which one is the latest ?"
the cpu is the difference
non of them are the latests
x1i use qualcomm MSM7200a
which support the frequencies used outside of usa and
support 30fps video capture which because of a lawsuit from broadcomm
qualcomm can't offer in usa
x1a use qualcomm MSM7201A
which support the frequencies used inside of usa and
don't support 30fps video capture which because of a lawsuit from broadcomm
qualcomm can't offer in usa

I was just in the USA and I have an X1i. I could make calls just fine with it. If I have it correctly, the only difference is in 3G networks. The x1i uses UMTS 900MHz (amongst others) while in America (not sure if just north or both north and south America) they use the 850MHz band (amongst others). This, however, is a hardware issue that you cannot change.
Luckily, you'll still be able to use the other 3G bands, so you should still be able to get on 3G. Plus, both the X1i and X1a have the same quad band GSM Frequencies that means they are both capable of working on any 2G network in the world.

i have an X1i and live in the united states. i can never, ever connect to 3G, only Edge or HSDPA can be connected to. really it's fine, i'm on HSDPA the majority of the time, especially since i live and work in Los Angeles. and HSDPA is always blazing fast for me, especially at full reception......

I have X1i in Canada. Reflashing US rom makes it reports X1a, but 3G is still not available.

asayamalaka said:
i have an X1i and live in the united states. i can never, ever connect to 3G, only Edge or HSDPA can be connected to. really it's fine, i'm on HSDPA the majority of the time, especially since i live and work in Los Angeles. and HSDPA is always blazing fast for me, especially at full reception......
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HSDPA is 3g: GPRS is 2G, EDGE is improved 2G; UMTS is 3G and HSDPA is improved 3G.
X1a is 850/1900/2100 Mhz 3G, AT&T uses both 850 and 1900. X1i uses 900/1900/2100 3G.
This means if you are on AT&T you may not get 3G with X1i (depending on the frequencies in your area). If you are on T-Mobile in U.S. then it doesn't matter because they use 1700Mhz 3G and neither X1i or X1a will work on 3G, and they will perform equally well (except for the video framerate issue which has been discussed earlier in this thread).
If you are not in U.S. or Australia (They use 850Mhz also) than get X1i. If you want to be sure you will get 3G service in U.S. on AT&T than get X1a. I think Australian providers all use NextG which is 850Mhz so they will also use X1a.
This is HARDWARE difference. Changing software/ROM will NOT change these frequency differences.
I hope this ends this thread because this has been covered many times in many places, both inside and outside of XDA-Developers.

Hannigan174 said:
HSDPA is 3g: GPRS is 2G, EDGE is improved 2G; UMTS is 3G and HSDPA is improved 3G.
X1a is 850/1900/2100 Mhz 3G, AT&T uses both 850 and 1900. X1i uses 900/1900/2100 3G.
This means if you are on AT&T you may not get 3G with X1i (depending on the frequencies in your area). If you are on T-Mobile in U.S. then it doesn't matter because they use 1700Mhz 3G and neither X1i or X1a will work on 3G, and they will perform equally well (except for the video framerate issue which has been discussed earlier in this thread).
If you are not in U.S. or Australia (They use 850Mhz also) than get X1i. If you want to be sure you will get 3G service in U.S. on AT&T than get X1a. I think Australian providers all use NextG which is 850Mhz so they will also use X1a.
This is HARDWARE difference. Changing software/ROM will NOT change these frequency differences.
I hope this ends this thread because this has been covered many times in many places, both inside and outside of XDA-Developers.
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yes i thought so, that's why i'm always confused as to how i can lock into HSDPA but never 3G. which is fine! it's just that i know i can get 3G in some areas i can't get HSDPA and can only get Edge, which is major slowage action...

Help! Kaiser to Dream?

I recently purchased a Kaiser, I have since unlocked and re-rommed. Now, I have the opportunity to virtually swap my Kaiser for a Rogers Dream.
The phone is a secondary phone that is being used as a basic phone for my wife. No data play will be added.
Here are my prerequisites:
1) The phone must be able to be sim-unlocked, to use in Europe.
2) It must be able to use a no data plan GPS program, currently have IGO8 on the Kaiser.
3) Must have wifi, decent camera, and a useable keyboard.
My Kaiser currently meets everything above, but is alitte big. Does anyone who has owned both have any insight on the comparison?
Please help, deadline is tomorrow.
Would you do it?
ps-Sorry mods, posted this in the xda/General thread, but no love. Thought this might be more appropriate.

A Rogers Dream is basically WORTHLESS.
Especially in europe since it uses 850/1900 MHz UMTS.
There is no currently known way to root the thing.

lbcoder said:
A Rogers Dream is basically WORTHLESS.
Especially in europe since it uses 850/1900 MHz UMTS.
There is no currently known way to root the thing.
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Thanks for the reply,
I thought the specs on the Dream are:
Cellular;Networks: GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850, UMTS1900
Cellular_Data;Links: CSD, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA
Arent most 2G networks in Europe 900 / 1800 and or 1900?
That being said, even though it cannot be rooted yet, couldnt a purchased sim unlock code make this a viable choice?

AFAIK, all European networks use 900/1800 for GSM and 2100 for UMTS.
Hope this helps,

keithsipa said:
Thanks for the reply,
I thought the specs on the Dream are:
Cellular;Networks: GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850, UMTS1900
Cellular_Data;Links: CSD, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA
Arent most 2G networks in Europe 900 / 1800 and or 1900?
That being said, even though it cannot be rooted yet, couldnt a purchased sim unlock code make this a viable choice?
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The rogers "robbers" version is CRIPPLED to their network frequencies. It will connect, but will definitely be limited to G2/EDGE.
And you don't want to go out making decisions based on what MIGHT be... eventually. There is currently no way to root the thing, so just assume that it will stay that way.
Robbers also uses CRIPPLED FIRMWARE -- stuck at 1.5 with no way to upgrade, and loaded with a ton of their bloat.
I *STRONGLY* suggest that you just pick up a local version.

lbcoder said:
The rogers "robbers" version is CRIPPLED to their network frequencies. It will connect, but will definitely be limited to G2/EDGE.
And you don't want to go out making decisions based on what MIGHT be... eventually. There is currently no way to root the thing, so just assume that it will stay that way.
Robbers also uses CRIPPLED FIRMWARE -- stuck at 1.5 with no way to upgrade, and loaded with a ton of their bloat.
I *STRONGLY* suggest that you just pick up a local version.
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Thanks for all of the help guys. I may pick one up to play with but keep my Kaiser for a while.
Cheers