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i have my xda2i and tt5 installed, and it runce nicely for an undetrmined amount of time then decides to close tomtom, i can reopen it and carry on but alas it keeps doing the same.
when i start tt5 i get the hands logo on the bottom bar apear but after every crash it seems to move along.
Any idears guys?
my old tt3 works flawlesly.
Firstly, make sure your using version 5.10, theres a small patch from the website that takes it from 5 to 5.10.
Second, consider it might be your SD card, slow older SD cards tend to make the device hang and/or slow down, which is a problem with the radio (mobile signal) and the SD card interface.
Cards above 80x speed generally work flawlessly.
Third try just a full re-install of the TT5 software, there might have been an error whilst installing thats causing it to crash.
i havent tried the update and i dont know what speed my card is, its the same card i used tomtom 5 with flawlessly in my old pda (loox600).
I'll try the update and see what happens.
Try this
Use the poi.dat from tt3.
I had a problem with the new rom where it crashed from time to time & also i couldn't nav to the poi without it crashing.
I used the poi.dat & i can now nav. it doesn't let me call the poi but it might solve your problem.
yay! when i used the tt5 poi and navigate to, it gave me the categories but no destinations when selected then would promptly crash, i put the tt3 poi.dat in and it will now searcha and nav to without crashing. will take her out on the road tonight and if i can get to my mums and back then alls well.
was a pain cos i went to newcastle a month ago (375mile) and it just kept crashing, i had to run it in guidance mode (no map, poi) so it must be the poi then cos it didnt crash like that.
will let you know my findings then you have a definitive answer for all you out there with the same issue.
Awesome :lol:
Happy with that if it works
What version of the rom are you running by chance?
ok, it dont crash now but it's so much slower in refreshing the map, about half the speed it was.
has anyone got an unaltered tt5 pio.dat file they can upload for me to try, i'm wondering if its happened when i used my free trial of tt plus and added thier speed camera databases. i could reinstall the maps but i'm nowhere near the orginal disk at the moment as its at work and i'm 'ill'.
I have a tomtom mobile pio which worked for a while then crashes, and have somone sending me a few different TT Go pio.dat's. worth testing them all.
my roms listed below chap.
Here is POI from TT 5.10, you said in your post that you had TT's speed camera database but I thought that you had to take out a 12 month contract.
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ok, it dont crash now but it's so much slower in refreshing the map, about half the speed it was.
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You need to uncheck all the POIs you don't want to see on the map, that is what is slowing it down.
i activated the tt plus trial on the website for a month and grabbed all the extras, although i use pocketgpsworld.com for my speed camera databases.
I have all the poi deactivated already.
will try this poi.dat and keep you all posted as i know others with the same issues as i'm having.
i've tried a working 5 & it crashes but mine works fine with the 3 one. you could always delete all poi.dat & see if it is faster.
its still dying, with all tt pio.dat files. pain in the bottom, someone else on here has mentioned they have fixed this issue. grr
Is your copy a proper license? I used to use a pirate copy before I deceided to use the real thing. The pirate copy crashed all the time as you explained but the real copy wotks just fine.
genuine. though i have done updates and added my own poi, just wondering is any other software is clashing.
been using tt since version 2 and have had bothe mobile versions on a nokia.
if your sd card is not a 80x speed it will crash all the time ,have you tried a transend 80x card as it has been established to work well and isn't that expensive
I'm using a kingston elite pro (50X) SD Card with tomtom 5.10 with ALL the POI's checked and ALL the pocketgps.co.uk speed camera datebase POI's checked with alerts for the speed camera's and i have never had a lockup whilst driving using tomtom.
Maybe try hard-resetting your XDAIIi and installing everything manually NOT using sprite. That's what i did and my tomtom seems to work flawlessly.
What bluetooth gps are you using?
ive tried hard reset a few time, even only with tt on it. no luck.
i'm not sure what speed my card is, but looks like this is most probably the cause then, matter of finding some cash then i think, or getting just a small 128 80x to stuff it on for when i need it.
tried it without the pio.dat file, still crashes. grrr.
Yes, bearing in mind i have a soley-devoted kingston elite pro 512mb just for the GB Plus map and the French map.
Perhaps if you get rid of all the other stuff from the card by formatting it in a card reader, try using "media recover" search around for it on google as it will wipe the card clean, this takes a while, but it will restore your card to it's original condition when you first bought it.
Then for the formatting, try reading this post i posted ages ago...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=21920&highlight=lydiachris
Format your card this way to produce the best read/write times.
Now put all your data back onto your card, just copy then paste the files from your pc to your sd card. This will produce no fragmetation therefor your XDAIIi will not have to search around for the desired data on the card.
Give this a go and post your outcomes.
yay, i found a apprently modified ttn.cab file through file share, installed it to my xda, it downgraded me from 5.1 to 5.0 but hasnt crashed or paused since, although ive only tried it locally, it seems fine, trying to find the time to take it 50 miles+ and see if it works
gonna try out your formating trick soon chap, will keep you posted
New XDA2i - TomTom 5.10 crash/freezing....
Hi all!
I got my new XDA2i through insurance after my 1st one's screen smashed. Installed all my apps etc including the TomTom 5.1 update andddddd it freezes every so often again ! dammm!
So, I double checked everything, all ok, the only thing I can think of is that the newer ROM this handset has is the cause of the lockups again.
I've looked through the postings on this topic and see slightly different versions on the radio version, protocol version etc.
This new XDA2i (I havent changed the ROM) is
ROM - 1.11.00 WWE
ROM Date - 01/27/05
Radio Version - 1.00.00
Protocol Version - 1337.39
EXTROM version - 1.11.162 WWE
Is it possible that some of these versions are known to cause a problem even with the updated 5.1? ( by the way I have the special Bakonl update )
I use a Sandisk 1GB Card (normal speed), the TomTom silver BT GPS unit.
Interestingly, my brothers 'spare' XDA2s with this setup works flawlessly, so I know my install, SD card, GPS all work fine.
Any ideas guys? how do I update say just the radio version? or protocol version? so that my version match another user's version which are working with TT5.1 ?
I was really looking forward to getting GPS all working again as I've missed it these last 2 months ! and now it's doing that annoying freezing again!
Any ideas, recommendations, things to try will be greatly appreciated!
Cheers! Dennis! West London UK!!
About 2 weeks of testing and still frustrated. I dont get TomTom 6 and Xda IIi to work fine. Everything works fine, installation, gps connection, poi an so on. The BIG problem is while i´m driving. Suddenly after for ex 3 min, 10 min, 28 min or 55 min the TomTom hangs. Then it works again after a soft reset and then it hangs and so on...
I´ve tried change ROM on the XdaIIi, tried TomTom 5 but the problem is still there.
I Use GPS Globalsat BT-338, Xda IIi ROM ver 1.11.00 WWE, SD card 1GB Kingston x50 and TomTom 6 (ver 6.030).
Any proposal? I´ve read some suggest faster SD card?
Works fine on mine, my SD card is a 4Gb 150x one. It may be another piece of software you have installed that is causing the issue. If you can back it all up I would test it on a clean install without the o2 front end ie corporate install but it may be your card.
i´ll try a faster XD.
I had troubles till I gained a disk by a Gentleman called Plasma from another place I cleared out the previous incantations and installed his works like a dream no problems even picks up my shortcut knowledge very quickly (I used to be a Transport Manager and am one of those horrible people with a map in my head for major routes) I use it mainly for the last couple of miles or the one or two places I don't know but mainly for the POI i.e. the speed camera's(I may be an old git but I like to travel reasonably fast)
3 possibilities I can think of:
1.) If this is a fairly recent install of TomTom 6 it might just not happen to like the particular SDcard you are using for the maps - I've heard some people find much faster cards give fewer/no crashes.
2.) Having too many POI files selected to display. Mine goes all unstable if I have more than about 25 different ones ticked to display on the map.
3.) sometimes the TomTom cfg gets corrupted, 'losing' my home locations and I am unable to set it...it gets tetchy & sometimes crashes out. The answer is to delete TomTom Navigator.cfg in the Navigator folder in Programs - TomTom will re-create a fresh one when you start and you go through the setups again, but hopefully without it crashing.
hope these are of some help
Joe
I had the same problem.
Changed the SD card to: "Transcend 2GB" and TomTom6 works perfectly on 2020i
Seems like Xda IIi freeze no matter how fast the SD is (with all tomtom version) if using SD and SIM card plugged in.
Change to MMC or take off SIM card then no more system hang.
Now I´ve test with SD card Extreme III. The problem i still there.
I know a few places where it hangs every time i drive past. Exactly the same position at the map. Very strange.
I deleted all pois, same **** again.
a lack of GPS signal can cause a map to "Hang" / "lock Up" and favorites for this are the Bluetooth GPS units
well i got my new Tytn II / Kaiser after selling my Hermes V1605 2 months ago.. I couldn't stick the awful A2DP from my sony ericsson..
Bluetooth stereo works fine.. I got the Motorola z9 blue tooth stereo phones.. all works great... pairs even better than the TYTN..
It's taking me time to get used to the keyboard sliding out the other way.. I've put all the tweaks.. got tomtom working google earth.. got mobile opera... soft key changer.. Running the original Htc Rom..
Only problem I have noticed is that sometimes the touch screen can be a bit unresponsive.. for about 3 seconds.. takes a bit longer to accept input.. and Internet Explorer freezes a little bit.. (is there a fix for it I don't know)..
Another thing i have noticed is I don't get the little H (sdpa) or the 3G as often as I would have with the Tytn. (the tytn was better after upgrading the radio)....
Transferring my tunes across to it is a sinch.. looking at buying a bigger sd got 2gig at the moment.. what's the largest I can go up to... I've seen figures of 6 or 8 up to 32...
I've seen some 8gig sd's on Ebay.. will they work...
Oh yeah... also is there anyone on 3 Three Ireland.. able to use their gmail through pocket outlook... I can recieve but cannot send.. i know 3 had problems with their smtp server before but they came up with a smtp relay but it dosent work with pocket outlook...
Currently, I believe the highest capacity microsd available to the public is 8gb. That's still a LOT of storage. Sandisk makes it I believe.
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It's taking me time to get used to the keyboard sliding out the other way..
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Very tedious if you need the stylus and are right-handed.
Only problem I have noticed is that sometimes the touch screen can be a bit unresponsive.. for about 3 seconds.. takes a bit longer to accept input..
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I had enabled tapping sounds and I noticed that this problem goes away if I disable this again.
3 second freezing
first thing I did was disable all tapping sounds when I got it... plus the keyboard slide sound (annoying) and phone dialler sounds (annoying)..
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Currently, I believe the highest capacity microsd available to the public is 8gb. That's still a LOT of storage. Sandisk makes it I believe.
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Except it doesn't seem to be available just yet -- I've had one on order for several weeks now. My guess is that it'll be a couple more weeks
duncan_mccloud; said:
Only problem I have noticed is that sometimes the touch screen can be a bit unresponsive.. for about 3 seconds.. takes a bit longer to accept input.. and Internet Explorer freezes a little bit.. (is there a fix for it I don't know)..
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Here is an excerpt from a Nov 2007 post in the HTC Users Forum:
"Users may perceive these instances as the touch screen being unresponsive or the device is freezing when in reality; the device is just processing a command (which is why there is no response).
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At this time, the issue will not be resolved by exchanging the device however, this issue is slated to be corrected in the first maintenance release for this device."
Has anyone found a fix for this problem yet?
hey, I experienced the same problem, when I had the original tilt rom and then when I flashed to the original htc rom. however, once I flashed dutys cooked roms, this issue has gone away. im currently using duttys #7 rom, and no problems at all. btw, I've also noticed that having the cube will slow down ur phone, so I use the non cube roms. good luck
omar
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Except it doesn't seem to be available just yet -- I've had one on order for several weeks now. My guess is that it'll be a couple more weeks
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8gb cards are available, even moby memory has then in stock, decent price to
http://www.mobymemory.com/products/...SDHC)-memory-card-with-Sandisk-USB-reader.asp
8gb MicroSD HC
Got my SanDisk 8gb MicroSD thru eBay at the weekend (£38 buy it now inc postage) - works on my Kaiser just fine - (also comes with a small cardreader on a keyring - v handy)
Handy for my home video of number one daughter, music, films, tomtom maps and my 1gb Wikipedia tomeraider file (plus the IMDB files for the TomeRaider too) - still have 3gb spare... any suggestions?!?!
I'm looking into buying maps for TomTom and wanted to know if there is any performance issues going with the large US-Canada map (~900mb) vs the smaller regional ones(~200mb). When I had a treo, I read of some Treo owners reporting "slow-down" with the US-Canada map and wanted to make sure that didn't apply here. I have a Tilt with the original ATT ROM. Thanks.
I don't know about the US map but I have the Western European map which is also nearly 1GB size (installed on microSD). So far this works without any slowdowns or freezes.
I am currently using the US-Canada maps and haven't noticed any lock-ups.
I am using the us-canada map and havent seen that freez glitch yet. I have also used the new england map that is alot smaller but didnt see a big difference so i just kept the usa-canada map . It ran just about the same
I've used both US and regional maps on the tilt using Swapps, and noooooo problems here. Mostly, I use regional maps.
Thanks for all the responses. Sounds like the majority of people aren't having a problem.
mcut- I'm not sure that problem is related to the size of the maps. It almost sounds as though your using your gps fix. People who reported problems with TomTom on the Treo with the big maps described a sort of "skipping" on the display that was short in duration but pretty much constant.
I guess I'll go withthe US map since its only 20 bucks more than the regionals.
Thanks again.
My friend and I both have Tilts running the following:
HardSPL 3.56
Death V4.1
Radio 1.58.16.24
The only difference between the two phones, is that I used the cab widely available here for TomTom and he bought a full fledged copy on DVD.
When I go to use my phone for navigation everything is choppy like so many others, but he showed me a route demo and it's smooth as the Magician in the htcclassaction.org demonstration video. I can't figure out how it's so smooth though. He's not using the "D3D drivers", either, so I'm at a loss.
His TomTom is 6.01 with 6.01 USA and Canada
Any ideas as to why / how TomTom got around the choppyness of DirectDraw?
Nothing at all?
I think this could be very important for DirectDraw and 2D acceleration if someone could figure this out
What I found when running TomTom on my Tytn II is that if you disable all the POIs from showing on the map while you are navigating then the software runs very smoothly.
If you use any speed cam warnings etc these still show up on the map as you navigate but it has no impact on the speed etc.
Let me know how that works.
Paul.
What about differences in the speeds of the SD cards? What do you have and what does he have? There have been reports that the 4GB and higher capacity cards cause Tom Tom to run slow.
how is it laggy?
Err...could this be the old Windoze analogy???
Increase of version = extra stuff to do???
Like early version just drew maps,,,new version waits for you to talk to it, checks traffic draws more items and still wants to work on same memory and processor???
you disable all the POIs from showing on the map while you are navigating then the software runs very smoothly.
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I'm sure glad to have seen this post. I've posted on 2-3 different forums, including teh TomTom support forum here; I've Called TomTom support...all to no avail.
This fixed my problem.
how is it laggy?
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Go in and check a dozen or so POIs to display while driving, and I suspect you'll find out. Map was jerky; I could make a turn, and be a half block down the road before it know I had turned.
I have an 8GB Sandisk MicroSDHC card and he has a 4GB Sandisk MicroSD card. I'm going to try disabling POIs, but I don't think that's it.
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I have an 8GB Sandisk MicroSDHC card and he has a 4GB Sandisk MicroSD card. I'm going to try disabling POIs, but I don't think that's it.
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Disabling POIs sped up TomTom IMMENSELY. Thanks for the info.
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Disabling POIs sped up TomTom IMMENSELY. Thanks for the info.
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You're welcome.
I have a 4gb micro sd card and the speed has nothing to do with the size or speed of the card.
I wonder if the video of the 2 machines on the class action lawsuit website had the Tytn II displaying all the POIs.
I think they would be a bit embarrassed if that turns out to be the case
I think the problem is just TomToms laggy software rather than the PDA
Paul.
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You're welcome.
I have a 4gb micro sd card and the speed has nothing to do with the size or speed of the card.
I wonder if the video of the 2 machines on the class action lawsuit website had the Tytn II displaying all the POIs.
I think they would be a bit embarrassed if that turns out to be the case
I think the problem is just TomToms laggy software rather than the PDA
Paul.
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I wouldn't be surprised. TomTom has always been smooth and lag-free for me, even with the stock HTC shipped ROM.
I forget which versions I've used, but I think it was:
6.02?
6.030 (or 6.032? I can't remember)
7.450 (the latest TTN7)
Well, at least video is smooth. I had sound issues with 6.030/32 and TTN7 that did not occur with the first version I used.
As you can see by my current sig (although soon to change) I'm using the latest HTC WM 6.1 ROM and 1.65.17.56 Radio with the correct 3.28.0000 SPL and I get very laggy GPS performance full-stop. It's not necessarily jerky (although on occasion where lots of movement such as going around a roundabout occurs, it can be) but it is very laggy. By this I mean I can be sitting in the train stationary and from the train starting to move and Tomtom Navigator actually registering movement/speed, it can take up to 25 seconds - and this is with a reasonable signal reception averaging 3 or more bars the whole time. I put this down to the actual GPS perfomance of the Radio module driver. Tomtoms call centre in the UK advised me that TTN Version 6.032 (the HTC official version) isn't actually supported under WM 6.1, only the original WM 6.0 O/S so guess what's happening to my TyTN II later this week at the HTC repair centre.... I'll be so pleased not to have to put up with rubbish GPS performance anymore. Next time I'll only upgrade to WM 6.1 once I get the all clear that they've fixed their WM 6.1 ROM/Radio combination.
Oh and I have tried TT 6.10 when Tomtom were first attempting to work out why their software was playing up after the WM 6.1 upgrade (they provided me with a free 'crossgrade' for faultfinding purposes) and I fould in terms of smoothness, it was identical to 6.032. I went back to 6.032 because 6.10 didn't have fully working customised things like jog button volume control, volume change screen indication and native inbuilt 'internal' GPS setting. The start menu also misbehaved or the physical Windows button on the phone wouldn't work properly when TTN was running, something like that - altogether not as 'Kaiser friendly'.
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Disabling POIs sped up TomTom IMMENSELY. Thanks for the info.
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Perhaps this works with Navigon, too. Gonna try that later
I am using TTN 6.032 on the latest WM 6.1 with a maximum of POIs enabled and it runs smoothly.
I've tried a version lower than 6.032, and based on my personal experience it didn't really make a difference. As long as you turn off the POI the TT will run like crazy, and plus the lower version is not as user friendly as the 6.032, or even better V.7, that's if V.7 will accept the maps from V.6, just my 2 cents.
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As you can see by my current sig (although soon to change) I'm using the latest HTC WM 6.1 ROM and 1.65.17.56 Radio with the correct 3.28.0000 SPL and I get very laggy GPS performance full-stop. It's not necessarily jerky (although on occasion where lots of movement such as going around a roundabout occurs, it can be) but it is very laggy. By this I mean I can be sitting in the train stationary and from the train starting to move and Tomtom Navigator actually registering movement/speed, it can take up to 25 seconds - and this is with a reasonable signal reception averaging 3 or more bars the whole time. I put this down to the actual GPS perfomance of the Radio module driver. Tomtoms call centre in the UK advised me that TTN Version 6.032 (the HTC official version) isn't actually supported under WM 6.1, only the original WM 6.0 O/S so guess what's happening to my TyTN II later this week at the HTC repair centre.... I'll be so pleased not to have to put up with rubbish GPS performance anymore. Next time I'll only upgrade to WM 6.1 once I get the all clear that they've fixed their WM 6.1 ROM/Radio combination.
Oh and I have tried TT 6.10 when Tomtom were first attempting to work out why their software was playing up after the WM 6.1 upgrade (they provided me with a free 'crossgrade' for faultfinding purposes) and I fould in terms of smoothness, it was identical to 6.032. I went back to 6.032 because 6.10 didn't have fully working customised things like jog button volume control, volume change screen indication and native inbuilt 'internal' GPS setting. The start menu also misbehaved or the physical Windows button on the phone wouldn't work properly when TTN was running, something like that - altogether not as 'Kaiser friendly'.
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Google "static navigation". The oddball performance at low speeds (such as lag from a stop) is not TomTom's fault. It's a setting in the GPS receiver that (unfortunately) can't be disabled on the Kaiser.