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Has anyone used Delorme Street Atlas USA with the Kaiser? It looks like a decent alternative to Tom Tom...
It is currently not compatiable with Kaiser and they are aware of the problem.
When you close the program or tell it to disconnect from GPS it locks up your device.
I can confirm this behavior as I spent the money to buy it. Wasable to convince Best Buy to accept it back. DeLorme offered to refund my purchase price in the event that Best Buy wouldn't allow the return.
Good company that has been doing maps for a long time, I hope they sort the problem out quickly.
I looked at it due to the price and thought that it would be a great buy, but the reviews on Amazon were less than steller. Several reviewers complained the maps were not up to date, but the big thing that sold me away from it was a mention elsewhere that "within the desktop application, you actually select and create a map for a specific circumstance." http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/articles.php?action=expand,56666&start=2
What if I'm already away from home and need to get directions? That won't for for me, sorry. I guess I'll shell out the big bucks for TomTom or similar.
They offer a 30 day mbg. I got my check yesterday. It's a nice program but doesn't play nice with the tilt. It was also missing a feature i like, directions by gps position. You always had to give it a start and end, with Tomtom or WLS you can just tell the program to start where you currently are.
agoyeneche said:
Has anyone used Delorme Street Atlas USA with the Kaiser? It looks like a decent alternative to Tom Tom...
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It is not, by any means, a decent alternative.
Its user interface is extremely clunky, and it is SLOW. POI Search and routing on-device is essentially useless in SA2006HH and all indications I have seen say that SA2008HH is no better. DeLorme couldn't even get it right with the PN-20.
That said - if you need topographic maps on a PDA, DeLorme is the way to go. I use TomTom for driving, and once SA2008HH gets fixed for the Kaiser I will be upgrading to 2008HH from 2006HH (which worked well with an external BT GPS on my Hermes.) for topo capability.
Here I am playing nice, searching and finding an old topic to resurrect instead of starting a new one...
I have an old (2002) version of Delorme Xmap for pocket PC.
I just loaded it up today on my tilt, I already had prepared maps for the Northwest USA so I added those.
The program started up, I changed the settings to look at port 4 and since I had started my GPS with GPSTest it found the device and located my position very quickly.
Here is the reason I am posting:
I see they have version 2009 out now and it looks pretty good.
However if it causes lockups on the Kaiser then I should not buy it.
Still - for $40 it seems you get a lot.
http://shop.delorme.com/OA_HTML/DELibeCCtdItemDetail.jsp?item=27867§ion=10120
I have the 2005 version with both streets and topo maps, it ran just fine on my Hermes (AT&T 8525) with a bluetooth GPS receiver but would never run right on my Kaiser (AT&T TILT). Being an avid outsdoorsman I miss my topo maps but, have found an alturnative, freeware called TGPS, it takes a little more work to setup and install maps but it works great.
I have version 2009 -- it works perfectly fine on the kaiser
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I have version 2009 -- it works perfectly fine on the kaiser
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Thanks Burtcom - just what I needed to hear.
Is it also fast? Or sluggish?
resonably fast -- except when you first zoom out to level 5 or higher. It can take a while to render the map at that level -- then its fast enough for the rest of the session.
It depends on how much info you've saved in the maps, though.
I tree to keep maps exported to the Kaiser about 1 to 2 MB in size, though I do have a 14MB map of much of the Western US, levels 5 to 9 or so, that has decent performance
What is the best GPS software that works on the Diamond and why?
From what i can see the big ones are:
Tom Tom
iGo
Destinator
Route66
CoPilot
Google Navigator (yeah ok the wildcard!)
Do any of these have built in/downloadable speed cameras, and do any have traffic information?
I'm sure everyone is else will be asking the same question in about 1 week
Personally I like tomtom the most, it might be that im just used to it cuz I was using it for few years, Garmin mobile xt is pretty decent too. They both have speed cameras/ traffic but it's an extra service. I think traffic is free but you have to buy speed camera locations
i have used IGO,Destinator, Papago & TomTom.
Currently, I have TOMTOM on my diamond and it works great! I think TomTom is very user friendly and provides good info. You can get fixed red light cameras and fixed speed cameras.
I hope this helps
Garmin
phankhi said:
i have used IGO,Destinator, Papago & TomTom.
Currently, I have TOMTOM on my diamond and it works great! I think TomTom is very user friendly and provides good info. You can get fixed red light cameras and fixed speed cameras.
I hope this helps
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I have Garmin Mobile XT, it is pretty good. When you arrive at the destination, it tells you whether the address is at right or left side of the street. It is especially helpful when you are on a wide street with 2 or more lanes each side, you can be prepared to go left or right. On the other hand Tomtom does not tell you whether the address is on the right or left side of the street. Otherwise they both are comparable.
Just my 2 cents.
What is the difference between Google Navigator and Google Maps?
I´m not able to install tomtom on my diamond it does not find the maps any ideas?
best regards
Herby
I've always used Tomtom. But it hasn't been updated for two years and there is no news of a new verison coming out yet (apart from the usual rumours). I'm going to try Copilot 7.
Copilot was always good (had it years ago) but had a clunky interface. Looks pretty good now its had the interface re-done in the latest version.
Not a bad review of it here...http://www.trustedreviews.com/software/review/2007/11/01/ALK-CoPilot-Live-7-for-Windows-Mobile/p1
Don't know about Destinator or Route66. Never used them. And from other posts in this forum I don't think iGo will work. I think it will only run off a copy protected SD which rules out the Diamond, but I could be wrong on that.
Anyone know the situation with iGo?
Also any previous users have any comments about Route66 or Destinator?
IGo is locked to the micro SD card it is supplied on which is a real shame as it makes putting this application on to a device with no card slot impossible. It also makes it impossible to copy the app/ maps onto a larger card so once you have bought it you only have a small amount of free space available unless you are happy swapping cards all the time where a card slot does exist.
I would consider looking at Route 66, its a decent application although the maps are around 12 months old which seems strange for a very newly released application (version 8 for PPC). These maps are around six months more up to date than the v675 map which is the latest map release that works with TomTom Navigator 6.
Tried Destinator and never bothered putting it back on the PDA, too slow and clunky for my taste, I also have Co-Pilot Live 7 and that seldom gets used because I find the interface too slow although once you get used to it its a decent application, another one is Sygic Live, great potential but the version I used tended to route down back streets, narrow lanes etc to the extent I didn't trust it - Mike
I currently have TomTom and MioMap on my Touch Cruise.
I prefer MioMap.
I have just made the switch from CoPilot 7 to Garmin XT. Garmin seems to have more functionality- or maybe I'm more familiar with it because I have it in my car and it's EXACTLY the same interface!
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Google Navigator: http://www.pdafun.net/
So it seems everyone has their favourites! How about from a speed camera/traffic update point of view? Please correct me if i'm wrong.
It seems all of them charge for speed cameras with some anual charge, but by registering for free here you can get an up to date speed cameras POI for the UK for free. http://www.poigenie.co.uk/speed_cameras
There are also other versions around compiled from the official tomtom update and other sources.
For traffic, it seems again they all charge unless your using TMC - which the diamond doesnt have (right?).
Since iGo doesnt work i'm now split between TomTom - because eventually we'll get a v7 rom / and Garmin - because alot of people seem to like it.
I think Copilot speed camera updates are free. But they charge for Traffic info (bout £35 for 2 years ).
Do any of these sat nav apps come with card readers seen as the Diamond doesn't have an SD card slot.
I'm assuming most of these are supplied on SD card
Thanks
I have MioMap3.3 and TomTom V7 on my trinity, I by far preferr MioMap but I have to use TomTom because it has more upto date maps and knows more POST codes than MioMap.
I dont think you have to have an SD card to install either of these programs and they both work perfectly.
I have tried Tomtom, Garmin, Navigon and iGO8 and I think that iGO8 by far is the best one. I think there is a version for the Diamond but I do not know if you can by it without the phone...
It is however quiet easy to install the regular version on a Diamond even without a SD-slot. Just use the searchfunction and you will find an answer in this forum.
I have Tom Tom and it is working fine
To put the question out straight away: for those of you who have been using TomTom 7, is it worth the change over?
I've been reading with great interest (and gratitude) the TomTom 7 threads, most namely:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401679&highlight=TomTom
But as you use it, is it a good result?
A couple of "detail" questions on my TT6 pet peeves:
1) Does TT7 still "take over" the full screen, in my case forcing back to TT6 when I tap on the top heading of the screen while in another program?
2) Will TT7 route to "company names" in the Microsoft Mobile Contact list? (My work around, of course, is simply to copy the company name to the "personal name", but it's tedious.)
Anyway, what's the verdict?
Thanks in advance.
Capn
I prefer iGo8 over it by far. Tomtom has barely changed since v5.
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I prefer iGo8 over it by far. Tomtom has barely changed since v5.
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Be fair... He's not asking if iGO is better, i think he just wants to know if tomtom 7 is a decent upgrade over 6, to which I would answer a resounding yes.
I navigated a semi tricky ramp setup in northern NJ, (where the turnpike meets the parkway, which hooks up with 440, which splinters of into the beginning of 287... and not only did I not experience any lag, the the separate ramps are shown in yellow, quite clearly, and it was almost impossible for me to go the wrong way.
Igo over tomtom? I'd say yes. but tt7 over tt6... hell yes. Take the plunge. Graphically nothing new, we all know this. But it gets the job done and I've never had issues with HTC home...
i had TT6 on my TyTN II. and have recently upgraded to TT7 and i think its great. the map is more detailed, it has speed limits on known major roads, and if you go 2 much over the limit it beeps telling u 2 slow down. you can also manually set a maximum speed limit and if you go over it beeps. (that saved me a speeding fine on my last trip to the peninsular) you can have a quick menu on screen all the time with just options you want in it. like quick set to night mode, or mark GPS position or mute. you can also make some changes to the map yourself, like street names and whatever, but from i see you cant change the speed limit of a street.
i will admit its the only software i have had installed on my PPC but its so good i have no need to look anywhere else.
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To put the question out straight away: for those of you who have been using TomTom 7, is it worth the change over?
I've been reading with great interest (and gratitude) the TomTom 7 threads, most namely:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401679&highlight=TomTom
But as you use it, is it a good result?
A couple of "detail" questions on my TT6 pet peeves:
1) Does TT7 still "take over" the full screen, in my case forcing back to TT6 when I tap on the top heading of the screen while in another program?
2) Will TT7 route to "company names" in the Microsoft Mobile Contact list? (My work around, of course, is simply to copy the company name to the "personal name", but it's tedious.)
Anyway, what's the verdict?
Thanks in advance.
Capn
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i am using TT7 and TT7 does use the entire screen but when u hit the red phone it is still running in the background.and u can always go back to it on the bottom right hand corner of your phone. even when the screen is off it will tell u when to make the next turn. so it is always running unles u manual exit the application
i think it is a great peice of work. picks up more sat. and it gives u many more options
For me upgrading to version 7 is a must, cause is the only way to use 7.20 maps. And there are much differences between v6 and v7 maps here in Spain
Haven't notice much differences in the soft, for me works fine both versions, 6 and 7.
Cheers.
Ive used miomap, igo, tt6 and tt7. I really liked miomap but got tired of disabling htc home. Once TT7 came out I tried it and never went back.
I love tt7, but i was using telenav. as said above it gets the job done.
TomTom Home 2.2
Guys,
Maybe a little bit off topic, but can you use TomTom Home (2.2)? With TomTom Home you can update your maps with mapshare.
The version of TT Home which you can download in first place, can not upgrade my maps.
I downloaded TT Home 2.2, but then my Kaiser has not been detected.
Someone any suggestions?
Temba
Thanks everyone. Most helpful.
A little follow-up:
1) Is the extracted TomTom 7 fully functional? That is, if it was "tuned" for the Diamond, do all the features work the way they are supposed to, perhaps like a 720 or 730?
2) Does the MapShare function as intended? (setting aside for the moment if it's useful feature yet). That is, any bugs due to extraction from the Diamond?
Again thanks,
Capn
how do i get IGO on my tilt?
im from NJ usa ..is it possible?
TT7 is the ****....not that super detailed but always shows the fastest route,speed camera and going over the speed limit notification beeps are very solid.
Washington d.c area is complete and down to a T..even new structures and ramps. Clear difference in options from TT6.
.. I mean I haven't tried IGO or another gps program other then google maps but I don't really consider that navigation...so I dunno the difference in other apps, but TT7 seems to get the job done. I don't really see anything else to expect more from it, I always get where I want..fast
A Resounding YES!
Tried iGo8 before TT7 came out and hated it. Looks great but probably the most unintuitive GPS software I've ever seen. TT6 over TT7? Yes, absolutely.
Only thing I hate is the muting of sound when you have a GPRS data connection.
I tried TT awhile ago, wasn't impressed. I ended up with Garmin XT, which I like alot (I have a car unit by them), but would consider iGo8 or the latest TT7 if one or the other is really better.
Can only compare TT7 to TT6, but I've gone back to TT6.
Yes, you need TT7 for the latest Teleatlas v7 maps and there are a few minor enhancements within TT7 over TT6, but I've gone back to TT6 because the route calculation on TT7 is a nightmare.
I've checked and its the software version rather than the map version, because TT7 does the same whether using V6 maps or V7 maps.
On a number of occasions, its taken me over narrow, single track back roads when there is a main road travelling parallel that I knew to be better and when I actually forced TT7 to calculate the better main-road route I knew - it was actually quicker!
Many people say that the last v6 maps from Navteq which Tomtom used until they bought Teleatlas are actually better than the later Teleatlas ones.
So I'm back using the "better calculating" TT6 software and the v6 Navteq maps and that will do me...
scroll wheel doesn't work anaymore with TT7
One thing very annoying for me with TT7 is that the scroll wheel (hardware button) doesn't work anymore on the kaiser for zoom/dezoom and for scrolling through adresses and city names ! This was working with TT6 but no more with TT7
I'm aware that this has been covered in a few other threads and many of you have GPS software running on your Diamonds already. Many of you also seem to be having problems.
I noticed today while looking at the PDA/Smartphone offerings from ALK (CoPilot), Garmin and Tomtom that the Diamond is only listed as being a compatible phone for ALK CoPilot - thay have actually brought out a dedicated edition of the software to take advantage of the phone's high-res screen.
So, those of you using Garmin Mobile XT and TomTom Navitagor 6 software, how did you get on with setting it all up? Especially Garmin Mobile XT, as it seems to only come on an SD card?
(Incidentally, I have seen posts referring to TomTom7, but on their website I can only see verison 6, so I'm referring to that).
I'm only just after putting TomTom7 on mine. It works a treat (admittedly having trouble with the GPS reception, but the actual application works fine!
Took a while to get the install working right, mainly due to not knowing where to put the maps folder (NB: It goes on the ROOT of the Internal Storage)
I maybe would like to try some others, just to compare, but prolly like many people, after buying the phone, don't want to be shelling out more notes for the S/W!
Would be good to get a list of what works and some install instructions!
And a list of the best GPS tweaks to get the most from it!
Where did you get TomTom7 from? Its not even for sale on the UK TomTom website.
Just an FYI, but I've just driven down to the Costa Blanca in Spain from the UK, using Copilot as my navigation tool. It worked absolutely brilliantly - routing was flawless and accurate and because the Hero can multitask I was able to listen to audiobooks and make/receive phone calls, without any hiccups from Copilot.
The original plan was to use a Navman unit as the primary, with Copilot acting as backup, but the routing from Copilot gave me a route that was 3 hours shorter than Navman, and it proved to be eerily accurate on its estimate too!
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Just an FYI, but I've just driven down to the Costa Blanca in Spain from the UK, using Copilot as my navigation tool. It worked absolutely brilliantly - routing was flawless and accurate and because the Hero can multitask I was able to listen to audiobooks and make/receive phone calls, without any hiccups from Copilot.
The original plan was to use a Navman unit as the primary, with Copilot acting as backup, but the routing from Copilot gave me a route that was 3 hours shorter than Navman, and it proved to be eerily accurate on its estimate too!
Regards,
Dave
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Awesome, sounds like CoPilot worked like a charm for you
I have to say, I have been disappointed by co-pilot on android. It drops GPS fix all the time, taking ages to get it back unless you restart the app, usually at a crucial moment! It also freezes quite a lot. The general interface is awkward, just nowhere near as good as navigon and tomtom where on WM, since both are supposed to be releasing android versions I am holding out for them!
Ahhhhhh, but have you upgraded your ROM? This alone fixed the GPS dropping issues. to be honest I find it better than my TomTom due to the fact that it tracks speed cameras now as well.
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I have to say, I have been disappointed by co-pilot on android. It drops GPS fix all the time, taking ages to get it back unless you restart the app, usually at a crucial moment! It also freezes quite a lot. The general interface is awkward, just nowhere near as good as navigon and tomtom where on WM, since both are supposed to be releasing android versions I am holding out for them!
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All I can say is that I didn't experience a single issue in 1100miles/20 hours of driving. I only have complaint about Copilot and that is that I wish it used the "standard" Android on-screen keyboard rather than its own, as their own isn't very good.
Regards,
Dave
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All I can say is that I didn't experience a single issue in 1100miles/20 hours of driving. I only have complaint about Copilot and that is that I wish it used the "standard" Android on-screen keyboard rather than its own, as their own isn't very good.
Regards,
Dave
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Yeah, it's not QWERT. Very irritating.
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I have to say, I have been disappointed by co-pilot on android. It drops GPS fix all the time, taking ages to get it back unless you restart the app, usually at a crucial moment! It also freezes quite a lot. The general interface is awkward, just nowhere near as good as navigon and tomtom where on WM, since both are supposed to be releasing android versions I am holding out for them!
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CoPilot gets its GPS information from the android framework. If you're losing GPS location, your device is at fault, not copilot! copilot is just quick to accept from the framework that the location is not longer acceptable.
Anyone know what the update released today was for?
Hmm sounds like I need to see what's wrong with my gps then give copilot another go. I am on the new Rom.
The idea of tom tom iq routes does still excite me though
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Anyone know what the update released today was for?
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Qwerty keyboard! Not sure what else.
I am a total convert from tomtom .. I really like CoPilot.. (except for the keyboard)..
I am not 100% happy with the routes it chooses by default but I do know that if I bother I can modify its route planning preferences.. so yeah .. great program and roll on a decent live trafiic addon..
after an irritating start with copilot8, i can now report that (for me) the nav program works pretty damn good. i agree that the keyboard blows compared to what it can be. otherwise, i have solid gps connectivity that has locked into decent accuracy and updates speedily. also, the nav map screen as well as option screens do the trick. tomtom on winmo was more streamlined but i have come to appreciate the depth of features available though settings. the recent email from user support is encouraging too. it reads...
"Dear CoPilot Live Customer,
We hope that you are enjoying finding your way with CoPilot Live v8 navigation on your smartphone.
Now we are pleased to announce a free new service to help you keep your CoPilot Live maps up-to-date:
ALK MapSure™ map updates.
CoPilot Live's digital street maps are continuously maintained and updated to include changes in the North American road network. With MapSure™ updates, we will provide these updates to you free of charge throughout the life of your product version.
Coming soon to your CoPilot Live
Free monthly map maintenance updates downloaded straight to CoPilot Live on your phone. These include emergency road closures, updates reported by users and other improvements.
Free quarterly full map updates. The very latest maps of North America will be available as a free download every quarter through CoPilot Central 2.0 desktop software, iTunes or Android Market.
45 day map update commitment. If you notice a road or an address that you believe needs updating, you can report it directly to us. We will verify the information, add it to our maps and distribute it to everyone through an update within 45 days.
Click here to report an update
We will also be issuing regular software improvements throughout the life of your software version in response to customer feedback. Depending on your phone, you'll be able to download these updates via CoPilot Central, The iPhone AppStore or Android Market."
Have to agree with the positive points above.
I was an old time Tomtom user (having used v3, v5 and v7 over the years) I reluctantly switched to Copilot through lack of other options on Android.
A few weeks of use (with several thousand miles travelled) and I have to say I am very impressed. I have to admit that I have had a few lockups, but no more than I used to get with TT7 on my Omnia. The 2 lockups I have experienced have happened after 2-3 hours of running, so could be caused by the phone overheating (or too many additional apps alonside) rather than Copilot freezing.
I ocassionally lose GPS, but this is VERY rare, and it quickly picks me up again and reroutes accordingly - again this used to happen with TT7 so its not fair to fault Copilot for this.
For the price (I paid around £50 for the whole of Europe!!!) I would happily say that Copilot is my favourite sat nav program to date.
Cheers
Zippyioa
Just a headsup for those who tried CoPilot Early and didn't like certain things, the latest update (398) has introduced a QWERTY keyboard similar to the HTC one but skinned for CoPilot. MUCH better and easier to use. and also the maps update tracking as posted above. Brilliant GPS solution...
Dayzee
Anyone tried Sygic Drive for Android yet?
I used it on my old Nokia a while ago and the iPhone App Video looks just awesome!
Hi!
Just a question regarding the maps for CoPilot. When you download them to your memory-card, are they locked somehow? Can I backup the maps to a different location, so that I can save them in case of format of memory card etc?
I read that you have a one-time-only download of the maps...so it's kinda nice to know that I'm not stuck if I loose them
And how about updates for map? With all the roadwork going on, it might already be outdated by now?
And if anyone have experience with CoPilot in Norway, it would be nice to know
/Thx
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hi,
given all positive feedback, I decided to buy copilot. I am in belgium, so no paid apps in the market here. So I used market enabler... However, I am now stuck. The app is listed as purchased, but I fail to download it. It gets stuck saying "authorizing credit card". I am sure there is nothing wrong with my credit card tho. Any ideas?
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Hi!
Just a question regarding the maps for CoPilot. When you download them to your memory-card, are they locked somehow? Can I backup the maps to a different location, so that I can save them in case of format of memory card etc?
I read that you have a one-time-only download of the maps...so it's kinda nice to know that I'm not stuck if I loose them
And how about updates for map? With all the roadwork going on, it might already be outdated by now?
And if anyone have experience with CoPilot in Norway, it would be nice to know
/Thx
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Why note e-mail the company that produces CoPilot, I'm sure they will answer a possible customer.
dudeldei said:
Hi!
Just a question regarding the maps for CoPilot. When you download them to your memory-card, are they locked somehow? Can I backup the maps to a different location, so that I can save them in case of format of memory card etc?
I read that you have a one-time-only download of the maps...so it's kinda nice to know that I'm not stuck if I loose them
And how about updates for map? With all the roadwork going on, it might already be outdated by now?
And if anyone have experience with CoPilot in Norway, it would be nice to know
/Thx
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Hadn't heard that one. But I do have a link for map downloads so I'm not worried about it.
dragonflyFZX said:
hi,
given all positive feedback, I decided to buy copilot. I am in belgium, so no paid apps in the market here. So I used market enabler... However, I am now stuck. The app is listed as purchased, but I fail to download it. It gets stuck saying "authorizing credit card". I am sure there is nothing wrong with my credit card tho. Any ideas?
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I had this problem as well, It's a Google Market problem.
It sorted itself in a few days, Which was not very good.