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Well, I am all prepared to buy the Kaiser when it hits the market. I am already looking at the GPS software packages out there for my Kaiser (hopefully GPS is not locked to Telenav). Even if it is locked, I am pretty sure all the good cooks out here will modify the ROM to fix this. What are you all thinking about using?
I've been using Route 66 on my Wizard and it works quite well. DeLorme Pocket Street Atlas is OK but the maps and routing aren't as good.
Lots of people swear by TomTom, and a few reviewers/testers have used it on their pre-production Kaisers. Both semsons.com & buygpsnow.com have a wide selection of GPS software packages.
I use tomtom and find it great.
i think ill also use tomtom. which one is the best?
ive never owned a gps device, so that's the only software ive really heard of..
I've been using OCN6 with my Wizard. . . anxious to see if it works with the Kaiser/8925/Tilt.
Route66 for me. I want my traffic information without having to pay a subscription...
Only thing that could be improved is the frequency of the map updates, where TomTom is the clear winner, but I've had no problems with my R66 map accuracy so far.
regarding the GPS:
Does anyone of you know wether there is GPS Software that could pull images from google maps?
Like a "show me satellite image of my current location" - button?
I think that would be really cool, but does it already exist?
And secondly, I'm looking for a GPS - Software that runs in the background and logs the GPS coordinates in order to geotag photos from my digicam later. Any recommendations here?
Try Mapopolis...
I use Mapopolis and it works and looks great on my ETEN X500+ VGA device. I'll use it when I get the Kaiser too. The resolution will go down but I still love the program.
Mapopolis has a GPS TRAIL option that logs your trip at preset intervals (every 5 minutes, 5 miles or whatever). All you have to do then is use the Location SMS feature of WM6 with pictures attached at capture the places you want. From there, you can create a nice Trip Photo Album with coordinates or send the trip via email.
TEC
I can't really compare software as I have only used Tomtom, but I have always found the program great and have never felt tempted to even try another software package because it has always worked so well.
With my 8525 I purchased the Garmin Mobile 10 which is this awesome little gps receiver that fits in your palm. It's bluetooth and all I do is put the tiny thing in my pocket. It uses Garmin software and works amazingly well. I'm wondering whether this would be MORE accurate than the built in GPS receiver in the Kaiser. If this is more accurate then I'll keep on using it but if the 8925 works just as well then I'll probably sell the garmin.
southy said:
regarding the GPS:
Does anyone of you know wether there is GPS Software that could pull images from google maps?
Like a "show me satellite image of my current location" - button?
I think that would be really cool, but does it already exist?
And secondly, I'm looking for a GPS - Software that runs in the background and logs the GPS coordinates in order to geotag photos from my digicam later. Any recommendations here?
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u should check this out, i just found out about it yesterday
Pdafun.net
its a program called "Google Navigator"
ksjulsen said:
u should check this out, i just found out about it yesterday
Pdafun.net
its a program called "Google Navigator"
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Wow great find. The downside to this software though is it requires an internet connection to connect to google when planning routes. So, if you don't have coverage then youre going to get lost.
MDA Vario III
The Vario III will be coming with CoPilot out of the box (there are having alot of problems in the testing of this cant cant make it work) they are also having problems gettin the WiFi stay on. So all you UK users who are after the Vario III (me included) will be waiting till the start of Oct
I own "iGuidance" which works on the PocketPC .. will test it out once I have the Kaiser
*crossing fingers*
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I own "iGuidance" which works on the PocketPC .. will test it out once I have the Kaiser
*crossing fingers*
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If anybody wants to send me a Kaiser I will try several packages out and report back in a review format.......
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dai_white said:
The Vario III will be coming with CoPilot out of the box (there are having alot of problems in the testing of this cant cant make it work) they are also having problems gettin the WiFi stay on. So all you UK users who are after the Vario III (me included) will be waiting till the start of Oct
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Says here its coming with tom tom taster version
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/wi...tytn-ii-europe-ultimate-mobile-companion.html
I'll be using iGuidance, as it's what I'm using now on my Hermes...
I'll be using TomTom Nav 6. It also has a satelite download but I've never used it.
I just got my TyTN II and installed iguidance 3.0.1.
It doesn't actually start most of the time. It appears to run once after a reboot but then not again.
I can see the exe in the process list but the app is not actually running. or never finishes starting.
So maybe i will give tom tom a try. LOL
Edit: Oh actually i ran it and waited 10 minutes and the program actually launched.. so there are definitely a few issues.
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I use Mapopolis and it works and looks great on my ETEN X500+ VGA device. I'll use it when I get the Kaiser too. The resolution will go down but I still love the program.
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Actually, I'd love if someone with a Kaiser would try Mapopolis - just load the Los Angeles, USA map and see if it's usable. My Hermes dogs out completely at high zoom levels - I'm presuming due to only 64MB of memory vs the 128MB in my old iPAQ 5555. (By "dogs out" I mean drag-panning the map is extremely jerky and category searches take near to a minute!)
Mapopolis' POI management is second to none, and it's had text-to-speech for ages. TomTom v6.030 is the latest PocketPC version I've found and it still has no text-to-speech, won't allow you to add your own POIs to the canned categories, etc.
Richard
Has anyone used Delorme Street Atlas USA with the Kaiser? It looks like a decent alternative to Tom Tom...
It is currently not compatiable with Kaiser and they are aware of the problem.
When you close the program or tell it to disconnect from GPS it locks up your device.
I can confirm this behavior as I spent the money to buy it. Wasable to convince Best Buy to accept it back. DeLorme offered to refund my purchase price in the event that Best Buy wouldn't allow the return.
Good company that has been doing maps for a long time, I hope they sort the problem out quickly.
I looked at it due to the price and thought that it would be a great buy, but the reviews on Amazon were less than steller. Several reviewers complained the maps were not up to date, but the big thing that sold me away from it was a mention elsewhere that "within the desktop application, you actually select and create a map for a specific circumstance." http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/articles.php?action=expand,56666&start=2
What if I'm already away from home and need to get directions? That won't for for me, sorry. I guess I'll shell out the big bucks for TomTom or similar.
They offer a 30 day mbg. I got my check yesterday. It's a nice program but doesn't play nice with the tilt. It was also missing a feature i like, directions by gps position. You always had to give it a start and end, with Tomtom or WLS you can just tell the program to start where you currently are.
agoyeneche said:
Has anyone used Delorme Street Atlas USA with the Kaiser? It looks like a decent alternative to Tom Tom...
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It is not, by any means, a decent alternative.
Its user interface is extremely clunky, and it is SLOW. POI Search and routing on-device is essentially useless in SA2006HH and all indications I have seen say that SA2008HH is no better. DeLorme couldn't even get it right with the PN-20.
That said - if you need topographic maps on a PDA, DeLorme is the way to go. I use TomTom for driving, and once SA2008HH gets fixed for the Kaiser I will be upgrading to 2008HH from 2006HH (which worked well with an external BT GPS on my Hermes.) for topo capability.
Here I am playing nice, searching and finding an old topic to resurrect instead of starting a new one...
I have an old (2002) version of Delorme Xmap for pocket PC.
I just loaded it up today on my tilt, I already had prepared maps for the Northwest USA so I added those.
The program started up, I changed the settings to look at port 4 and since I had started my GPS with GPSTest it found the device and located my position very quickly.
Here is the reason I am posting:
I see they have version 2009 out now and it looks pretty good.
However if it causes lockups on the Kaiser then I should not buy it.
Still - for $40 it seems you get a lot.
http://shop.delorme.com/OA_HTML/DELibeCCtdItemDetail.jsp?item=27867§ion=10120
I have the 2005 version with both streets and topo maps, it ran just fine on my Hermes (AT&T 8525) with a bluetooth GPS receiver but would never run right on my Kaiser (AT&T TILT). Being an avid outsdoorsman I miss my topo maps but, have found an alturnative, freeware called TGPS, it takes a little more work to setup and install maps but it works great.
I have version 2009 -- it works perfectly fine on the kaiser
burtcom said:
I have version 2009 -- it works perfectly fine on the kaiser
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Thanks Burtcom - just what I needed to hear.
Is it also fast? Or sluggish?
resonably fast -- except when you first zoom out to level 5 or higher. It can take a while to render the map at that level -- then its fast enough for the rest of the session.
It depends on how much info you've saved in the maps, though.
I tree to keep maps exported to the Kaiser about 1 to 2 MB in size, though I do have a 14MB map of much of the Western US, levels 5 to 9 or so, that has decent performance
What is the best GPS software that works on the Diamond and why?
From what i can see the big ones are:
Tom Tom
iGo
Destinator
Route66
CoPilot
Google Navigator (yeah ok the wildcard!)
Do any of these have built in/downloadable speed cameras, and do any have traffic information?
I'm sure everyone is else will be asking the same question in about 1 week
Personally I like tomtom the most, it might be that im just used to it cuz I was using it for few years, Garmin mobile xt is pretty decent too. They both have speed cameras/ traffic but it's an extra service. I think traffic is free but you have to buy speed camera locations
i have used IGO,Destinator, Papago & TomTom.
Currently, I have TOMTOM on my diamond and it works great! I think TomTom is very user friendly and provides good info. You can get fixed red light cameras and fixed speed cameras.
I hope this helps
Garmin
phankhi said:
i have used IGO,Destinator, Papago & TomTom.
Currently, I have TOMTOM on my diamond and it works great! I think TomTom is very user friendly and provides good info. You can get fixed red light cameras and fixed speed cameras.
I hope this helps
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I have Garmin Mobile XT, it is pretty good. When you arrive at the destination, it tells you whether the address is at right or left side of the street. It is especially helpful when you are on a wide street with 2 or more lanes each side, you can be prepared to go left or right. On the other hand Tomtom does not tell you whether the address is on the right or left side of the street. Otherwise they both are comparable.
Just my 2 cents.
What is the difference between Google Navigator and Google Maps?
I´m not able to install tomtom on my diamond it does not find the maps any ideas?
best regards
Herby
I've always used Tomtom. But it hasn't been updated for two years and there is no news of a new verison coming out yet (apart from the usual rumours). I'm going to try Copilot 7.
Copilot was always good (had it years ago) but had a clunky interface. Looks pretty good now its had the interface re-done in the latest version.
Not a bad review of it here...http://www.trustedreviews.com/software/review/2007/11/01/ALK-CoPilot-Live-7-for-Windows-Mobile/p1
Don't know about Destinator or Route66. Never used them. And from other posts in this forum I don't think iGo will work. I think it will only run off a copy protected SD which rules out the Diamond, but I could be wrong on that.
Anyone know the situation with iGo?
Also any previous users have any comments about Route66 or Destinator?
IGo is locked to the micro SD card it is supplied on which is a real shame as it makes putting this application on to a device with no card slot impossible. It also makes it impossible to copy the app/ maps onto a larger card so once you have bought it you only have a small amount of free space available unless you are happy swapping cards all the time where a card slot does exist.
I would consider looking at Route 66, its a decent application although the maps are around 12 months old which seems strange for a very newly released application (version 8 for PPC). These maps are around six months more up to date than the v675 map which is the latest map release that works with TomTom Navigator 6.
Tried Destinator and never bothered putting it back on the PDA, too slow and clunky for my taste, I also have Co-Pilot Live 7 and that seldom gets used because I find the interface too slow although once you get used to it its a decent application, another one is Sygic Live, great potential but the version I used tended to route down back streets, narrow lanes etc to the extent I didn't trust it - Mike
I currently have TomTom and MioMap on my Touch Cruise.
I prefer MioMap.
I have just made the switch from CoPilot 7 to Garmin XT. Garmin seems to have more functionality- or maybe I'm more familiar with it because I have it in my car and it's EXACTLY the same interface!
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What is the difference between Google Navigator and Google Maps?
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Google Navigator: http://www.pdafun.net/
So it seems everyone has their favourites! How about from a speed camera/traffic update point of view? Please correct me if i'm wrong.
It seems all of them charge for speed cameras with some anual charge, but by registering for free here you can get an up to date speed cameras POI for the UK for free. http://www.poigenie.co.uk/speed_cameras
There are also other versions around compiled from the official tomtom update and other sources.
For traffic, it seems again they all charge unless your using TMC - which the diamond doesnt have (right?).
Since iGo doesnt work i'm now split between TomTom - because eventually we'll get a v7 rom / and Garmin - because alot of people seem to like it.
I think Copilot speed camera updates are free. But they charge for Traffic info (bout £35 for 2 years ).
Do any of these sat nav apps come with card readers seen as the Diamond doesn't have an SD card slot.
I'm assuming most of these are supplied on SD card
Thanks
I have MioMap3.3 and TomTom V7 on my trinity, I by far preferr MioMap but I have to use TomTom because it has more upto date maps and knows more POST codes than MioMap.
I dont think you have to have an SD card to install either of these programs and they both work perfectly.
I have tried Tomtom, Garmin, Navigon and iGO8 and I think that iGO8 by far is the best one. I think there is a version for the Diamond but I do not know if you can by it without the phone...
It is however quiet easy to install the regular version on a Diamond even without a SD-slot. Just use the searchfunction and you will find an answer in this forum.
I have Tom Tom and it is working fine
can someone please advise me if tomtom 6 works on the diamond.
many thanks
As far as I know, TT6 can't use the internal GPS. TT7, however can. No idea why you'd even use TT6 personally.
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As far as I know, TT6 can't use the internal GPS. TT7, however can. No idea why you'd even use TT6 personally.
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TT6 can ofcoure use the internel GPS!! I have tt6 in my Cruise that came with the CD and it works perfect with Diamond too, but why use tt6 and old maps(v6.75 Latest and last) with TT7 you can use the latest 7.20 maps
cheers guys
lets me now look for tt7
Tomtom works
I have been using Tomtom 5.2 with Western Maps of Europe 6.6. It works superbly and GPS is found in under a minute. I'm not impressed with Tomtom though despite having used it since Version 2 as they are in breach of their EULA by refusing to send me a new device code as they say its been used on other units. Their EULA specifcally states "one device at a time". In the meantime I am forced to use a dodgy exe file whjich goes against all my principles but have paid for it and now can't use it, until they sort it out. I have threatened legal action to recover the cost of the software and my traffic subscription and am awaiting their response. I also have reports that CO-Pilot is faultless with Touch Dimaond so would be inclined to go with that from hereon.
I've got US/Canada maps in a box, and I installed TT6, but even after copying the maps to the internal storage, TomTom 6 says "no maps found"
Tt6 Is Good To Go
i have used it from day one on my diamond
i have it installed on internal memory no problems with 2 maps
hope this helps
have a good weekend
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I have been using Tomtom 5.2 with Western Maps of Europe 6.6. It works superbly and GPS is found in under a minute. I'm not impressed with Tomtom though despite having used it since Version 2 as they are in breach of their EULA by refusing to send me a new device code as they say its been used on other units. Their EULA specifcally states "one device at a time". In the meantime I am forced to use a dodgy exe file whjich goes against all my principles but have paid for it and now can't use it
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Agree completely. I've got a bought-and-paid-for TomTom (with TomTom Bluetooth GPS unit) that I've been unable to use for two years because I no longer use the phone on which it was installed, so I'm forced to use pirated copies of the same software on my current machine.
Even Microsoft aren't this good at alienating legitimate paying customers.
Legitimate TT6 works well with my touch diamond.
And, unlike others who had problems, it was a second install, which I managed to carry out just fine. Installed software, it generated a device number, I went into TTcodes and put device number and product code number in, and it generated a code that I put into device and away it went.
As I understand it you are allowed one new install every 6 months using TTcodes.
I wish I'd had the same luck. Bought TomTom 6 because I wanted legitimate software. Have tried everything, but it just wont detect the gps after install. Maybe it's just mine
Hi all..
I want to start a threat on the best navigational software for the HTC Diamond.
This one is for the nominees the next threat will be with a poll of all nominees.
Post like me plz.
My nominees are:
1. Igo v8
2. TomTom v7
3. Sygic McGuider v7
And please post those without the 50m delay error !
Some say that the phone is not accurate and that indications and guidance are 50m late with Tom Tom and many others...
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And please post those without the 50m delay error !
Some say that the phone is not accurate and that indications and guidance are 50m late with Tom Tom and many others...
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The delay is not caused by the software. It is the way they implemented GPS in the Diamond.
what's the legal status of loading TomTom 7 on a Diamond/branded handset that does not include this
I know of someone who tried to buy maps from Tomtom - and they accused him of piracy for loading the software - took his money and closed off his access to the maps he had bought online
merrica said:
what's the legal status of loading TomTom 7 on a Diamond/branded handset that does not include this
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Easy question : illegal !
TT7 is not sold by TomTom in any way except included in some devices...
merrica said:
I know of someone who tried to buy maps from Tomtom - and they accused him of piracy for loading the software - took his money and closed off his access to the maps he had bought online
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That's pretty dumb to buy maps for a software acquired illegally.
To come back to the original question :
I can see only 2 real contenders : TT7 and Igo8. I found pros and cons on each one and cannot decide which one to use...
Other GPS software are far behind those two
The Tomtom software is free. The map cost.
I have both Tomtom and Igo on my TD. Igo win hands down.
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The Tomtom software is free. The map cost.
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Where did you see that ???????
TomTom 7 for VGA devices is sweeeeet on the Diamond. It´s lightning fast and everything looks super sharp. Installed it yesterday... great gps locks on my diamond, even indoors in seconds...
I also have both TT7 and Igo8, and I prefer Igo8. The lag on TT7 seems less though (maybe just due to the big arrow!). Igo8's UK map has directed me down a few one way streets but I really prefer the interface, it is much easier to use even as a piece of map reading software, and I find the instructions clearer, with fewer ambiguous instructions (like BEAR LEFT = TURN LEFT sometimes = go straight other times on TT7)
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Easy question : illegal !
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Wrong!! I have TomTom 7 installed, it didnt come packaged on my device, and i sourced it from TomTom.
Also you might want to read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401679 particularly the title "TomTom 7 extracted from HTC Diamond"
If this was EXTRACTED from a HTC Diamond, it was shipped from HTC with TomTom 7 Installed!
and if you look here: http://navngo.com/pages/global/eng/news_and_press/htc_touch_eng you can read about Nav N Go WM6 compatible software
I suggest you go to both of the manufacturers websites and re-read the sections about PDA's
I -really- prefer the interface, features and visuals of IGO8 over TomTom. The problem is IGO8 has around 20M lag so I end up using TomTom.
destinator
I tried several applications in the past.
"Destinator" is the only package that works for me without problems
both on my diamond as on my other devices.
Destinator also does not have problems with all my other applications that
run in the background.
is use both Igo8 and Tomtom7. Both work fine on the diamond, except for the GPS lag (the same with Igo8 and TT7). I recently switched back from Igo8 tot TT7 because i found the screen from Igo8 too overwhelming, looks like a computergame with lots of information and colours. TT7 has more basic looks, wich on the -little (compared tot dedicated devices)- screen from the Diamond looks better. Only complaint about TT7 are the small icons for the POI's, on the Igo8 these are better visible than the TT7 ones.
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And please post those without the 50m delay error !
Some say that the phone is not accurate and that indications and guidance are 50m late with Tom Tom and many others...
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I have a delay, but no more than 10m and when you're driving it really doesn't matter.
i have tried various versions of both TTN7 and IGo8, ended up sticking with IGo8, mainly because of the interface. The only thing that anoys me is not being able to put in Postcodes in the UK
anyone know a answer?
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Wrong!! I have TomTom 7 installed, it didnt come packaged on my device, and i sourced it from TomTom.
Also you might want to read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401679 particularly the title "TomTom 7 extracted from HTC Diamond"
If this was EXTRACTED from a HTC Diamond, it was shipped from HTC with TomTom 7 Installed!
and if you look here: http://navngo.com/pages/global/eng/news_and_press/htc_touch_eng you can read about Nav N Go WM6 compatible software
I suggest you go to both of the manufacturers websites and re-read the sections about PDA's
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You should have read ALL my post : it's illegal IF NOT PRE-INSTALLED ON YOUR PHONE...
Its loaded on SOME Diamonds not ALL. If not present it's illegal to install it as TomTom does not provide it...
Please provide OFFICIAL info and link on how to get LEGAL TT7 when not shipped with phone to prove I'm wrong (and I would be glad to be wrong !!!!).
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The Tomtom software is free. The map cost.
I have both Tomtom and Igo on my TD. Igo win hands down.
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given the person I spoke of above - thankfully not me - no the software isn't free, or at least TomTom don't think so
AFAIK iGo is illegal on the Diamond too since it's shipped only on SD cards that will hardly be accepted by our babies.
Anyway, running fine on my XDA Diamond.
I use the Diamond for IGO8, Memory map OS and Run.GPS....
Rom. Swiftblade 7, radio 05...
Almost instant gps fix, very accurate even whilst out for a run...
Mostly used is Run.gps, then Memory map followed by IGO8 when I have to go to a meeting...
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AFAIK iGo is illegal on the Diamond too since it's shipped only on SD cards that will hardly be accepted by our babies.
Anyway, running fine on my XDA Diamond.
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Not really - if you bought yourself iGo on SD card and ported it over, you have purchased the rights to use that software
...unless some overly pedantic legalese prohibits shifting the files from SD card to Internal Storage