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Tomtom on Kaiser?

Hello,
anyone who has Tomtom working on the Kaiser?
The application runs, but recognizes no maps, allthough the Western Europe Map is present...
Greetz,
Forrest

Netvigator
Yes, I have got Tomtom 6 running on Kaiser and using the latest 6.75 maps and it works perfect.

Great! Can you tell me how you did it?
Maybe I should rename the directory of the Western Europe map on my SD, but I don't know how it should be named...
Thanks!

It works! I renamed the map a few times, and suddenly it was recognized!
Thanks anyway!

How is the GPS in acquiring a GPS fix?
Is it quick?
Thanks,
HJ

If you check the box carefuly, you'll find disk with tomtom app. The version there is newer thet anything you can get elsewhere, but only works with kaiser...
Tomtom Navigator 6.032!!!

Tomtom on my Kaiser
Where can I download Tomtom Navigator 6.032?
ALso does it work in the U.S.?
I'd love to get TomTom working on my Kaiser!
vasil said:
If you check the box carefuly, you'll find disk with tomtom app. The version there is newer thet anything you can get elsewhere, but only works with kaiser...
Tomtom Navigator 6.032!!!
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ausbj said:
Where can I download Tomtom Navigator 6.032?
ALso does it work in the U.S.?
I'd love to get TomTom working on my Kaiser!
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You can't download it. It is included on the CD. Aside from that, TT 6.032 does not work on other devices, it will simply refuse to install.
As far as the fix is concerned, as I already mentioned in another thread, it's really a lot quicker than on the Trinity (Qcomm) or x7500 (Sirf III) and also a lot more sensitive (7 bars on the dinner table compared to 0 for the x7500)

Got my kaiser yesterday, used the tomtom this morning on the way to work , the lock on time was about the same as my sirfiii external unit around 90ecs, was only get around 3-4 sats though so weaker than the external unit. I was not using quick gps fix either.
I will see how it goes as i can always use the external unit with it anyway. handy to have it all built in though.
device seems very responsive compared to my vario II.
time will tell.

Actually, you should be able to manually replace the .exe of 6.032 over a 6.030 install...

Actually, you should be able to manually replace the 6.032 .exe over the 6.030 .exe...

where on the cd is the tomtom cab? I looked at each folder on both cd's that came with the kaiser and nothing. Any chance someone can send me the file? I will proof I do own tomtom maps and a kaiser, please pm.

It is called "Installer_Kaiser_ttn_6_032_8351_HTC_WWE_20070716.exe" on my cdrom, yours should be the same. The cdrom also has the tomtom logo on it as well.
I have had mine freeze twice now whilst using it, i think it may have something to do with the traffic subscription as i have just had that transferred over to my new kaiser, before it was fine with tomtom. Will continue testing to see how frequent this becomes....

It appears that there are two versions of the applications disk. Can HTC's TomTom app be downloaded from their site?

zomig said:
It is called "Installer_Kaiser_ttn_6_032_8351_HTC_WWE_20070716.exe" on my cdrom, yours should be the same. The cdrom also has the tomtom logo on it as well.
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boy, if some kind sould could put this up someplace...

well i guess seeing as it cannot be installed on any other device apart from the Kaiser I dont see any reason not to post it up as no one apart from Kaisers owners can install it anyway.
Obviously if this causes an issue i will remove it immediately....
HERE

Thx Zomig. Much appreciated!

Thanks! Just need to wait for the 8925 release now and see if there's anything else we're missing.
-Mc

Hmmm....McHale- I doubt that AT&T will be releasing Tomtom with their units...

I'm sure they're not. I actually meant if they cripple the device in any way like removing the front camera. I still haven't seen an official release that says it has GPS.
-Mc

Please report your GPS experience

For the lucky people who got their Kaisers already, would you please report your experience regarding the built-in GPS please specially the initial cold fix as it was very slow with the Trinity P3600

TomTom 6.030 does not work, instead you have to install the TT version 6.0.32 from the accompanying CD. The first fix (after QuickGPS ran) was almost instaneaous and a lot faster than on the Athena.

Agreed; and, at least in Google Maps, the position is more accurate than the Ameo.

For batterie Life
Hello,
Can you post hte comment of batterie life when you use the GPS.
For example: the phone
the telephone is load completely (100% full batterie) and when you use 1 hour of gps
how much battery it remains?
Thanks.
Private69.
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Pfff TyTN II has 5 to 7 satellites reception on the dinnertable in the living room where the x7500 does not receive anything. Not bad for a Qualcomm GPS that supposedly is less good as the Sirf III ...

Wiz said:
Pfff TyTN II has 5 to 7 satellites reception on the dinnertable in the living room where the x7500 does not receive anything. Not bad for a Qualcomm GPS that supposedly is less good as the Sirf III ...
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sorry for a stupid question, do u use tomtom 6 to check the number of satellites? i cant get my gps to start working at all.

Wiz said:
TomTom 6.030 does not work, instead you have to install the TT version 6.0.32 from the accompanying CD. The first fix (after QuickGPS ran) was almost instaneaous and a lot faster than on the Athena.
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Am running 6.030 now!
Don't ask me how or why but it's working fine.
Joe

I now verified that on TT6.030 you have to use "Other NMEA GPS/4800Bd/Com 4: and on TT6.032 you can stay with "Internal GPS"
In any case, TT6.032 with "Internal GPS" the fix is aqcuired a lot faster than on TT6.030
TT6.032 is supplied with the TyTNN II on the accompanying CDRom
(TT6.032 incidentally does not allow itself to be installed on any other device, the installer prevents that, but after installation on the TyTN II, the directory can be copied to for instance the x7500 to replace the old installation there, and it will work fine. My first impression is that also on the x7500 with TT6.032 the fix is faster, but I still need to run the "dinner table test" )

its working fine now after i installed the version on the cd. thanks. my MapKing chinese version also working, GREAT!

When you use tt6.32 from the CD, can you use any tt6 map? or is it locked to 1 map only?
Can you have multiple maps with the tt6.32 from the CD?

Can you confirm that the version supplied with TyTn II i.e., TomTom 6.0.32, is a FULL version ? Licences? or is it a taster and you have to pay to register it as a full version? If it is full, does it come with Great Britain Maps (full) or you have to download them? In case of download, is it free?
Thanks

The CD version of TT 6.032 that comes with the Kaiser is as full as an update one would dowload from TomTom. There is no code. There are no maps either. One can download one area map (f.i. London) for free, but no country or continent maps are added. Those will have to be purchased separately.
If you install it on top of an already installed and registered TT6.0x0, it will not ask for a new code. Any old registration will remain valid.
On another note, sitting side by side in my car, I noticed that the x7500's GPS reception was a lot more consistent then the TyTNN II's. The TyTN II may acquire its fix a lot faster, but on the whole, the x7500's reception is better (even though my "dinner table test" would lead to believe otherwise) and more consistent.
While my x7500 had a permanent reception of 9-10 satellites (albeit with shorter bars) the TyTN II was jumping up and down between 3 and 7 satellites.

I currently use my Hermes in an 'in car' holder, with a bluetooth GPS reciever face up in the window. One thing that I would like to know, is that if I was to get a Kaiser and put it into my car holder, surely the orientation of the GPS reciever inside the Kaiser would be 'end on' to the sky, and the satelites.
This must affect performance?

I got mine this morning. Took me quite a while to get GPS working -- had to do a hard reset. It's now working with Route 66, which I used to use on my Wizard.
GPS data seems a bit bursty -- when I was viewing it with GPSViewer, I'd get a bunch of NMEA strings, then nothing for several seconds, then another burst.

Hum..seems to be same issue than Paul from Modaco :
"The GPS bug seems to occur with some applications whereby the GPS 'data stream' will pause for a few seconds at a time, which makes some apps think the GPS has gone away (e.g. Google Maps) and other apps just update in sudden jumps rather than smoothly." ?
Seems that HTC did not fix it in the final ROM.
Do you know if HTC is aware of this issue and plan to fix it ?
Thanks

don't know if i've encountered the bug but here's my situation: i cannot get the GPS Hardware Port (or COM) settings to "stick" after changing them. for example i can change GPS Program Port and it will stick but changing the Hardware Port and clicking OK has no impact. if i reopen the GPS settings, the Hardware Port shows "(NONE)". and this is after 4 hard resets. funny thing is that is worked when i initially set up my device, then all of a sudden, TT6 was reporting "No GPS Device"... it may be time to pack it up and return it for a replacement... any suggestions would be appreciated.
Update: Followed Paul's (on Modaco) suggestion to leave the default settings and now GPS is working.

Which Navigation programs work in landscape mode???

for those of you with a Tytn II, are you able to modify the GPS Hardware COM port from one setting to another? the fact that mine says "(NONE)" is leading me to believe i have a hardware defective unit. thanks.

Kaiser and mapking 2007
ive tried mapking 07 on kaiser and it doesnt work. It juz cannot pinpoint the location that I am at. I wonder if its the software problem??

I installed TOM-TOM from the HTC CD and it has worked with out problems, even installed US MAPS from another Tom-Tom CD I have from the original version. Only problem so far, once I was using it and received an SMS message and it locked up. Had to restart. Receiving email is fine but the SMS message freaked it out.

Delorme Street Atlas USA

Has anyone used Delorme Street Atlas USA with the Kaiser? It looks like a decent alternative to Tom Tom...

It is currently not compatiable with Kaiser and they are aware of the problem.
When you close the program or tell it to disconnect from GPS it locks up your device.
I can confirm this behavior as I spent the money to buy it. Wasable to convince Best Buy to accept it back. DeLorme offered to refund my purchase price in the event that Best Buy wouldn't allow the return.
Good company that has been doing maps for a long time, I hope they sort the problem out quickly.

I looked at it due to the price and thought that it would be a great buy, but the reviews on Amazon were less than steller. Several reviewers complained the maps were not up to date, but the big thing that sold me away from it was a mention elsewhere that "within the desktop application, you actually select and create a map for a specific circumstance." http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/articles.php?action=expand,56666&start=2
What if I'm already away from home and need to get directions? That won't for for me, sorry. I guess I'll shell out the big bucks for TomTom or similar.

They offer a 30 day mbg. I got my check yesterday. It's a nice program but doesn't play nice with the tilt. It was also missing a feature i like, directions by gps position. You always had to give it a start and end, with Tomtom or WLS you can just tell the program to start where you currently are.

agoyeneche said:
Has anyone used Delorme Street Atlas USA with the Kaiser? It looks like a decent alternative to Tom Tom...
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It is not, by any means, a decent alternative.
Its user interface is extremely clunky, and it is SLOW. POI Search and routing on-device is essentially useless in SA2006HH and all indications I have seen say that SA2008HH is no better. DeLorme couldn't even get it right with the PN-20.
That said - if you need topographic maps on a PDA, DeLorme is the way to go. I use TomTom for driving, and once SA2008HH gets fixed for the Kaiser I will be upgrading to 2008HH from 2006HH (which worked well with an external BT GPS on my Hermes.) for topo capability.

Here I am playing nice, searching and finding an old topic to resurrect instead of starting a new one...
I have an old (2002) version of Delorme Xmap for pocket PC.
I just loaded it up today on my tilt, I already had prepared maps for the Northwest USA so I added those.
The program started up, I changed the settings to look at port 4 and since I had started my GPS with GPSTest it found the device and located my position very quickly.
Here is the reason I am posting:
I see they have version 2009 out now and it looks pretty good.
However if it causes lockups on the Kaiser then I should not buy it.
Still - for $40 it seems you get a lot.
http://shop.delorme.com/OA_HTML/DELibeCCtdItemDetail.jsp?item=27867&section=10120

I have the 2005 version with both streets and topo maps, it ran just fine on my Hermes (AT&T 8525) with a bluetooth GPS receiver but would never run right on my Kaiser (AT&T TILT). Being an avid outsdoorsman I miss my topo maps but, have found an alturnative, freeware called TGPS, it takes a little more work to setup and install maps but it works great.

I have version 2009 -- it works perfectly fine on the kaiser

burtcom said:
I have version 2009 -- it works perfectly fine on the kaiser
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Thanks Burtcom - just what I needed to hear.
Is it also fast? Or sluggish?

resonably fast -- except when you first zoom out to level 5 or higher. It can take a while to render the map at that level -- then its fast enough for the rest of the session.
It depends on how much info you've saved in the maps, though.
I tree to keep maps exported to the Kaiser about 1 to 2 MB in size, though I do have a 14MB map of much of the Western US, levels 5 to 9 or so, that has decent performance

TomTom - does it work OK?

I've been asked whether it's working OK on the Kaiser (and its rebranded versions). As I've run into diametrically opposing reports, I've found it the best to start a new thread so that I can see whether it works or not.

Yes it does work, well on the Vario III incarnation it does. I have had 6.0 running and now I've installed 6.030 which is also running perfectly

Works fine on my HTC branded phone, running 6.032 now

Version 6.032 ships with the TyTN II and works fantastic as it directly supports the internal GPS!

Works great for me out of the box. Vodafone v1615 and V6.032.
Had to buy a full UK map and that installed OK.
Hope this helps

Works perfect on my unbranded HTC Tytn II... no configuration and stuff needed...

The only thing I've found is that it won't work with some of the newer maps.
I am running a v660 map but I couldn't get a newer (675) version to work.
Anyone able to use newer than 660 on a TyTn II?

Thanks guys and gals; highly appreciated

i have maps 675 working uk n ireland map.
TomTom Navigator 6.030 (8320) + UK and IE Plus Major Roads of WE 1409 v675.1409
works fine

mbriody said:
The only thing I've found is that it won't work with some of the newer maps.
I am running a v660 map but I couldn't get a newer (675) version to work.
Anyone able to use newer than 660 on a TyTn II?
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I'm running the TomTom 6.032 with USA_Canada map (version 6.75).

Guess it must be just me then!
I'll give 675 a try again.

I'm running 6.010 on my Tilt with no issues. I just chose 'other nema gps' for my adapter and set the com4 and 4800 baud.
Works like a champ.

laakness said:
I'm running 6.010 on my Tilt with no issues. I just chose 'other nema gps' for my adapter and set the com4 and 4800 baud.
Works like a champ.
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Why do you use an adapter and not the internal GPS radio built into the Tilt?
I have TomTom working on my Tilt (still evaluating with freebie map) using the internal radio. Works good but certain features are turned off (i.e., sound) in the evaluation version. TomTom looks to be much better and more user friendly than Telenav.

BillMc said:
Why do you use an adapter and not the internal GPS radio built into the Tilt?
I have TomTom working on my Tilt (still evaluating with freebie map) using the internal radio. Works good but certain features are turned off (i.e., sound) in the evaluation version. TomTom looks to be much better and more user friendly than Telenav.
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I never said I was using an external adapter. I said "other nema gps" SETTING which is in the options. That is because the 6.010 version does not have Internal GPS as an option so I have to specify the comm settings for my device.

v6.030 with v675 maps works flawlessly on my Orange TyTn II.

TomTom Maps 50% Off
For anyone who doesn't yet have the TomTom maps, it appears they are 50% off today. Not sure how long this sale price will last.

Question for you guys..... I purchasing a Tytn II on the internet, and i asuming it will come with TomTom, but mind dose not.
Just want to know where did you guys purchasing your TytnII??? I live in USA, and using Tmobile...it is suck they do not have the 3G ...... I wish it will have it soon.....

I only have a couple of problems.
1. If I minimize TT by pressing the side OK button then try to click on something in the corners (volume, start menu) then TT comes back forward.
2. Sometimes it takes quite a few minutes for TT to connect to the GPS.
Besides these minimal problems, I love not having to carry around a separate GPS unit.

My Tilt did not come with TomTom but after a a great deal of searching and reading the forums here, I ordered it from Amazon. I wanted a GPS solution that was independent of a data feed (I have no data plan since most all of my stops have wi-fi access.....and I'm cheap).
Installation to the computer was very simple. Setting up the device worked the first attempt (likely because I had read about which settings to chose here on the forum). Registering the software was not exactly intuitive (I attempted to use the product number provided in the box.....which it turned out to be only used online to get the actual activation number from tomtom).
Running TomTom Home 1.5v106 on the computer and 6.010 on my Tilt.
I can pull a good signal even indoors at home. In-car performace in poor (without an external antena). But all works like a charm on my Harley, where the driving instructions are played thru the stereo speakers.
The only thing that appears to be lacking (or I just haven't found it yet) is the ability to plan routes on the computer and upload them to the Tilt. But I've had no problems planning routes directly on the device itself.

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I only have a couple of problems.
1. If I minimize TT by pressing the side OK button then try to click on something in the corners (volume, start menu) then TT comes back forward.
2. Sometimes it takes quite a few minutes for TT to connect to the GPS.
Besides these minimal problems, I love not having to carry around a separate GPS unit.
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Same problem here- if I have the phone on mute, I can't minimize TomTom to turn up the volume, as TT seems to hog control of the touchscreen in WM6. This wasn't a problem in WM5. I'm eagerly awaiting the next release of TomTom.

What is the verdict on TomTom 7?

To put the question out straight away: for those of you who have been using TomTom 7, is it worth the change over?
I've been reading with great interest (and gratitude) the TomTom 7 threads, most namely:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401679&highlight=TomTom
But as you use it, is it a good result?
A couple of "detail" questions on my TT6 pet peeves:
1) Does TT7 still "take over" the full screen, in my case forcing back to TT6 when I tap on the top heading of the screen while in another program?
2) Will TT7 route to "company names" in the Microsoft Mobile Contact list? (My work around, of course, is simply to copy the company name to the "personal name", but it's tedious.)
Anyway, what's the verdict?
Thanks in advance.
Capn

I prefer iGo8 over it by far. Tomtom has barely changed since v5.

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I prefer iGo8 over it by far. Tomtom has barely changed since v5.
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Be fair... He's not asking if iGO is better, i think he just wants to know if tomtom 7 is a decent upgrade over 6, to which I would answer a resounding yes.
I navigated a semi tricky ramp setup in northern NJ, (where the turnpike meets the parkway, which hooks up with 440, which splinters of into the beginning of 287... and not only did I not experience any lag, the the separate ramps are shown in yellow, quite clearly, and it was almost impossible for me to go the wrong way.
Igo over tomtom? I'd say yes. but tt7 over tt6... hell yes. Take the plunge. Graphically nothing new, we all know this. But it gets the job done and I've never had issues with HTC home...

i had TT6 on my TyTN II. and have recently upgraded to TT7 and i think its great. the map is more detailed, it has speed limits on known major roads, and if you go 2 much over the limit it beeps telling u 2 slow down. you can also manually set a maximum speed limit and if you go over it beeps. (that saved me a speeding fine on my last trip to the peninsular) you can have a quick menu on screen all the time with just options you want in it. like quick set to night mode, or mark GPS position or mute. you can also make some changes to the map yourself, like street names and whatever, but from i see you cant change the speed limit of a street.
i will admit its the only software i have had installed on my PPC but its so good i have no need to look anywhere else.

Captain_Eric said:
To put the question out straight away: for those of you who have been using TomTom 7, is it worth the change over?
I've been reading with great interest (and gratitude) the TomTom 7 threads, most namely:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401679&highlight=TomTom
But as you use it, is it a good result?
A couple of "detail" questions on my TT6 pet peeves:
1) Does TT7 still "take over" the full screen, in my case forcing back to TT6 when I tap on the top heading of the screen while in another program?
2) Will TT7 route to "company names" in the Microsoft Mobile Contact list? (My work around, of course, is simply to copy the company name to the "personal name", but it's tedious.)
Anyway, what's the verdict?
Thanks in advance.
Capn
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i am using TT7 and TT7 does use the entire screen but when u hit the red phone it is still running in the background.and u can always go back to it on the bottom right hand corner of your phone. even when the screen is off it will tell u when to make the next turn. so it is always running unles u manual exit the application
i think it is a great peice of work. picks up more sat. and it gives u many more options

For me upgrading to version 7 is a must, cause is the only way to use 7.20 maps. And there are much differences between v6 and v7 maps here in Spain
Haven't notice much differences in the soft, for me works fine both versions, 6 and 7.
Cheers.

Ive used miomap, igo, tt6 and tt7. I really liked miomap but got tired of disabling htc home. Once TT7 came out I tried it and never went back.

I love tt7, but i was using telenav. as said above it gets the job done.

TomTom Home 2.2
Guys,
Maybe a little bit off topic, but can you use TomTom Home (2.2)? With TomTom Home you can update your maps with mapshare.
The version of TT Home which you can download in first place, can not upgrade my maps.
I downloaded TT Home 2.2, but then my Kaiser has not been detected.
Someone any suggestions?
Temba

Thanks everyone. Most helpful.
A little follow-up:
1) Is the extracted TomTom 7 fully functional? That is, if it was "tuned" for the Diamond, do all the features work the way they are supposed to, perhaps like a 720 or 730?
2) Does the MapShare function as intended? (setting aside for the moment if it's useful feature yet). That is, any bugs due to extraction from the Diamond?
Again thanks,
Capn

how do i get IGO on my tilt?
im from NJ usa ..is it possible?

TT7 is the ****....not that super detailed but always shows the fastest route,speed camera and going over the speed limit notification beeps are very solid.
Washington d.c area is complete and down to a T..even new structures and ramps. Clear difference in options from TT6.
.. I mean I haven't tried IGO or another gps program other then google maps but I don't really consider that navigation...so I dunno the difference in other apps, but TT7 seems to get the job done. I don't really see anything else to expect more from it, I always get where I want..fast

A Resounding YES!
Tried iGo8 before TT7 came out and hated it. Looks great but probably the most unintuitive GPS software I've ever seen. TT6 over TT7? Yes, absolutely.
Only thing I hate is the muting of sound when you have a GPRS data connection.

I tried TT awhile ago, wasn't impressed. I ended up with Garmin XT, which I like alot (I have a car unit by them), but would consider iGo8 or the latest TT7 if one or the other is really better.

Can only compare TT7 to TT6, but I've gone back to TT6.
Yes, you need TT7 for the latest Teleatlas v7 maps and there are a few minor enhancements within TT7 over TT6, but I've gone back to TT6 because the route calculation on TT7 is a nightmare.
I've checked and its the software version rather than the map version, because TT7 does the same whether using V6 maps or V7 maps.
On a number of occasions, its taken me over narrow, single track back roads when there is a main road travelling parallel that I knew to be better and when I actually forced TT7 to calculate the better main-road route I knew - it was actually quicker!
Many people say that the last v6 maps from Navteq which Tomtom used until they bought Teleatlas are actually better than the later Teleatlas ones.
So I'm back using the "better calculating" TT6 software and the v6 Navteq maps and that will do me...

scroll wheel doesn't work anaymore with TT7
One thing very annoying for me with TT7 is that the scroll wheel (hardware button) doesn't work anymore on the kaiser for zoom/dezoom and for scrolling through adresses and city names ! This was working with TT6 but no more with TT7