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Tomtom on Kaiser?

Hello,
anyone who has Tomtom working on the Kaiser?
The application runs, but recognizes no maps, allthough the Western Europe Map is present...
Greetz,
Forrest

Netvigator
Yes, I have got Tomtom 6 running on Kaiser and using the latest 6.75 maps and it works perfect.

Great! Can you tell me how you did it?
Maybe I should rename the directory of the Western Europe map on my SD, but I don't know how it should be named...
Thanks!

It works! I renamed the map a few times, and suddenly it was recognized!
Thanks anyway!

How is the GPS in acquiring a GPS fix?
Is it quick?
Thanks,
HJ

If you check the box carefuly, you'll find disk with tomtom app. The version there is newer thet anything you can get elsewhere, but only works with kaiser...
Tomtom Navigator 6.032!!!

Tomtom on my Kaiser
Where can I download Tomtom Navigator 6.032?
ALso does it work in the U.S.?
I'd love to get TomTom working on my Kaiser!
vasil said:
If you check the box carefuly, you'll find disk with tomtom app. The version there is newer thet anything you can get elsewhere, but only works with kaiser...
Tomtom Navigator 6.032!!!
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ausbj said:
Where can I download Tomtom Navigator 6.032?
ALso does it work in the U.S.?
I'd love to get TomTom working on my Kaiser!
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You can't download it. It is included on the CD. Aside from that, TT 6.032 does not work on other devices, it will simply refuse to install.
As far as the fix is concerned, as I already mentioned in another thread, it's really a lot quicker than on the Trinity (Qcomm) or x7500 (Sirf III) and also a lot more sensitive (7 bars on the dinner table compared to 0 for the x7500)

Got my kaiser yesterday, used the tomtom this morning on the way to work , the lock on time was about the same as my sirfiii external unit around 90ecs, was only get around 3-4 sats though so weaker than the external unit. I was not using quick gps fix either.
I will see how it goes as i can always use the external unit with it anyway. handy to have it all built in though.
device seems very responsive compared to my vario II.
time will tell.

Actually, you should be able to manually replace the .exe of 6.032 over a 6.030 install...

Actually, you should be able to manually replace the 6.032 .exe over the 6.030 .exe...

where on the cd is the tomtom cab? I looked at each folder on both cd's that came with the kaiser and nothing. Any chance someone can send me the file? I will proof I do own tomtom maps and a kaiser, please pm.

It is called "Installer_Kaiser_ttn_6_032_8351_HTC_WWE_20070716.exe" on my cdrom, yours should be the same. The cdrom also has the tomtom logo on it as well.
I have had mine freeze twice now whilst using it, i think it may have something to do with the traffic subscription as i have just had that transferred over to my new kaiser, before it was fine with tomtom. Will continue testing to see how frequent this becomes....

It appears that there are two versions of the applications disk. Can HTC's TomTom app be downloaded from their site?

zomig said:
It is called "Installer_Kaiser_ttn_6_032_8351_HTC_WWE_20070716.exe" on my cdrom, yours should be the same. The cdrom also has the tomtom logo on it as well.
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boy, if some kind sould could put this up someplace...

well i guess seeing as it cannot be installed on any other device apart from the Kaiser I dont see any reason not to post it up as no one apart from Kaisers owners can install it anyway.
Obviously if this causes an issue i will remove it immediately....
HERE

Thx Zomig. Much appreciated!

Thanks! Just need to wait for the 8925 release now and see if there's anything else we're missing.
-Mc

Hmmm....McHale- I doubt that AT&T will be releasing Tomtom with their units...

I'm sure they're not. I actually meant if they cripple the device in any way like removing the front camera. I still haven't seen an official release that says it has GPS.
-Mc

What GPS software package are you guys thinking of using?

Well, I am all prepared to buy the Kaiser when it hits the market. I am already looking at the GPS software packages out there for my Kaiser (hopefully GPS is not locked to Telenav). Even if it is locked, I am pretty sure all the good cooks out here will modify the ROM to fix this. What are you all thinking about using?

I've been using Route 66 on my Wizard and it works quite well. DeLorme Pocket Street Atlas is OK but the maps and routing aren't as good.
Lots of people swear by TomTom, and a few reviewers/testers have used it on their pre-production Kaisers. Both semsons.com & buygpsnow.com have a wide selection of GPS software packages.

I use tomtom and find it great.

i think ill also use tomtom. which one is the best?
ive never owned a gps device, so that's the only software ive really heard of..

I've been using OCN6 with my Wizard. . . anxious to see if it works with the Kaiser/8925/Tilt.

Route66 for me. I want my traffic information without having to pay a subscription...
Only thing that could be improved is the frequency of the map updates, where TomTom is the clear winner, but I've had no problems with my R66 map accuracy so far.

regarding the GPS:
Does anyone of you know wether there is GPS Software that could pull images from google maps?
Like a "show me satellite image of my current location" - button?
I think that would be really cool, but does it already exist?
And secondly, I'm looking for a GPS - Software that runs in the background and logs the GPS coordinates in order to geotag photos from my digicam later. Any recommendations here?

Try Mapopolis...
I use Mapopolis and it works and looks great on my ETEN X500+ VGA device. I'll use it when I get the Kaiser too. The resolution will go down but I still love the program.
Mapopolis has a GPS TRAIL option that logs your trip at preset intervals (every 5 minutes, 5 miles or whatever). All you have to do then is use the Location SMS feature of WM6 with pictures attached at capture the places you want. From there, you can create a nice Trip Photo Album with coordinates or send the trip via email.
TEC

I can't really compare software as I have only used Tomtom, but I have always found the program great and have never felt tempted to even try another software package because it has always worked so well.

With my 8525 I purchased the Garmin Mobile 10 which is this awesome little gps receiver that fits in your palm. It's bluetooth and all I do is put the tiny thing in my pocket. It uses Garmin software and works amazingly well. I'm wondering whether this would be MORE accurate than the built in GPS receiver in the Kaiser. If this is more accurate then I'll keep on using it but if the 8925 works just as well then I'll probably sell the garmin.

southy said:
regarding the GPS:
Does anyone of you know wether there is GPS Software that could pull images from google maps?
Like a "show me satellite image of my current location" - button?
I think that would be really cool, but does it already exist?
And secondly, I'm looking for a GPS - Software that runs in the background and logs the GPS coordinates in order to geotag photos from my digicam later. Any recommendations here?
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u should check this out, i just found out about it yesterday
Pdafun.net
its a program called "Google Navigator"

ksjulsen said:
u should check this out, i just found out about it yesterday
Pdafun.net
its a program called "Google Navigator"
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Wow great find. The downside to this software though is it requires an internet connection to connect to google when planning routes. So, if you don't have coverage then youre going to get lost.

MDA Vario III
The Vario III will be coming with CoPilot out of the box (there are having alot of problems in the testing of this cant cant make it work) they are also having problems gettin the WiFi stay on. So all you UK users who are after the Vario III (me included) will be waiting till the start of Oct

I own "iGuidance" which works on the PocketPC .. will test it out once I have the Kaiser
*crossing fingers*

UnicornKaz said:
I own "iGuidance" which works on the PocketPC .. will test it out once I have the Kaiser
*crossing fingers*
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If anybody wants to send me a Kaiser I will try several packages out and report back in a review format.......
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dai_white said:
The Vario III will be coming with CoPilot out of the box (there are having alot of problems in the testing of this cant cant make it work) they are also having problems gettin the WiFi stay on. So all you UK users who are after the Vario III (me included) will be waiting till the start of Oct
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Says here its coming with tom tom taster version
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/wi...tytn-ii-europe-ultimate-mobile-companion.html

I'll be using iGuidance, as it's what I'm using now on my Hermes...

I'll be using TomTom Nav 6. It also has a satelite download but I've never used it.

I just got my TyTN II and installed iguidance 3.0.1.
It doesn't actually start most of the time. It appears to run once after a reboot but then not again.
I can see the exe in the process list but the app is not actually running. or never finishes starting.
So maybe i will give tom tom a try. LOL
Edit: Oh actually i ran it and waited 10 minutes and the program actually launched.. so there are definitely a few issues.

technillion said:
I use Mapopolis and it works and looks great on my ETEN X500+ VGA device. I'll use it when I get the Kaiser too. The resolution will go down but I still love the program.
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Actually, I'd love if someone with a Kaiser would try Mapopolis - just load the Los Angeles, USA map and see if it's usable. My Hermes dogs out completely at high zoom levels - I'm presuming due to only 64MB of memory vs the 128MB in my old iPAQ 5555. (By "dogs out" I mean drag-panning the map is extremely jerky and category searches take near to a minute!)
Mapopolis' POI management is second to none, and it's had text-to-speech for ages. TomTom v6.030 is the latest PocketPC version I've found and it still has no text-to-speech, won't allow you to add your own POIs to the canned categories, etc.
Richard

Please report your GPS experience

For the lucky people who got their Kaisers already, would you please report your experience regarding the built-in GPS please specially the initial cold fix as it was very slow with the Trinity P3600

TomTom 6.030 does not work, instead you have to install the TT version 6.0.32 from the accompanying CD. The first fix (after QuickGPS ran) was almost instaneaous and a lot faster than on the Athena.

Agreed; and, at least in Google Maps, the position is more accurate than the Ameo.

For batterie Life
Hello,
Can you post hte comment of batterie life when you use the GPS.
For example: the phone
the telephone is load completely (100% full batterie) and when you use 1 hour of gps
how much battery it remains?
Thanks.
Private69.
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Pfff TyTN II has 5 to 7 satellites reception on the dinnertable in the living room where the x7500 does not receive anything. Not bad for a Qualcomm GPS that supposedly is less good as the Sirf III ...

Wiz said:
Pfff TyTN II has 5 to 7 satellites reception on the dinnertable in the living room where the x7500 does not receive anything. Not bad for a Qualcomm GPS that supposedly is less good as the Sirf III ...
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sorry for a stupid question, do u use tomtom 6 to check the number of satellites? i cant get my gps to start working at all.

Wiz said:
TomTom 6.030 does not work, instead you have to install the TT version 6.0.32 from the accompanying CD. The first fix (after QuickGPS ran) was almost instaneaous and a lot faster than on the Athena.
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Am running 6.030 now!
Don't ask me how or why but it's working fine.
Joe

I now verified that on TT6.030 you have to use "Other NMEA GPS/4800Bd/Com 4: and on TT6.032 you can stay with "Internal GPS"
In any case, TT6.032 with "Internal GPS" the fix is aqcuired a lot faster than on TT6.030
TT6.032 is supplied with the TyTNN II on the accompanying CDRom
(TT6.032 incidentally does not allow itself to be installed on any other device, the installer prevents that, but after installation on the TyTN II, the directory can be copied to for instance the x7500 to replace the old installation there, and it will work fine. My first impression is that also on the x7500 with TT6.032 the fix is faster, but I still need to run the "dinner table test" )

its working fine now after i installed the version on the cd. thanks. my MapKing chinese version also working, GREAT!

When you use tt6.32 from the CD, can you use any tt6 map? or is it locked to 1 map only?
Can you have multiple maps with the tt6.32 from the CD?

Can you confirm that the version supplied with TyTn II i.e., TomTom 6.0.32, is a FULL version ? Licences? or is it a taster and you have to pay to register it as a full version? If it is full, does it come with Great Britain Maps (full) or you have to download them? In case of download, is it free?
Thanks

The CD version of TT 6.032 that comes with the Kaiser is as full as an update one would dowload from TomTom. There is no code. There are no maps either. One can download one area map (f.i. London) for free, but no country or continent maps are added. Those will have to be purchased separately.
If you install it on top of an already installed and registered TT6.0x0, it will not ask for a new code. Any old registration will remain valid.
On another note, sitting side by side in my car, I noticed that the x7500's GPS reception was a lot more consistent then the TyTNN II's. The TyTN II may acquire its fix a lot faster, but on the whole, the x7500's reception is better (even though my "dinner table test" would lead to believe otherwise) and more consistent.
While my x7500 had a permanent reception of 9-10 satellites (albeit with shorter bars) the TyTN II was jumping up and down between 3 and 7 satellites.

I currently use my Hermes in an 'in car' holder, with a bluetooth GPS reciever face up in the window. One thing that I would like to know, is that if I was to get a Kaiser and put it into my car holder, surely the orientation of the GPS reciever inside the Kaiser would be 'end on' to the sky, and the satelites.
This must affect performance?

I got mine this morning. Took me quite a while to get GPS working -- had to do a hard reset. It's now working with Route 66, which I used to use on my Wizard.
GPS data seems a bit bursty -- when I was viewing it with GPSViewer, I'd get a bunch of NMEA strings, then nothing for several seconds, then another burst.

Hum..seems to be same issue than Paul from Modaco :
"The GPS bug seems to occur with some applications whereby the GPS 'data stream' will pause for a few seconds at a time, which makes some apps think the GPS has gone away (e.g. Google Maps) and other apps just update in sudden jumps rather than smoothly." ?
Seems that HTC did not fix it in the final ROM.
Do you know if HTC is aware of this issue and plan to fix it ?
Thanks

don't know if i've encountered the bug but here's my situation: i cannot get the GPS Hardware Port (or COM) settings to "stick" after changing them. for example i can change GPS Program Port and it will stick but changing the Hardware Port and clicking OK has no impact. if i reopen the GPS settings, the Hardware Port shows "(NONE)". and this is after 4 hard resets. funny thing is that is worked when i initially set up my device, then all of a sudden, TT6 was reporting "No GPS Device"... it may be time to pack it up and return it for a replacement... any suggestions would be appreciated.
Update: Followed Paul's (on Modaco) suggestion to leave the default settings and now GPS is working.

Which Navigation programs work in landscape mode???

for those of you with a Tytn II, are you able to modify the GPS Hardware COM port from one setting to another? the fact that mine says "(NONE)" is leading me to believe i have a hardware defective unit. thanks.

Kaiser and mapking 2007
ive tried mapking 07 on kaiser and it doesnt work. It juz cannot pinpoint the location that I am at. I wonder if its the software problem??

I installed TOM-TOM from the HTC CD and it has worked with out problems, even installed US MAPS from another Tom-Tom CD I have from the original version. Only problem so far, once I was using it and received an SMS message and it locked up. Had to restart. Receiving email is fine but the SMS message freaked it out.

Using GPS brings machine to crawl

I have a HTC Tytn II Pro. Everything works great, except GPS.
The CDs did not have any Tomtom application, but I had my own copies of Destinator, Igo 2006 Plus and Mapopolis, along with Map4Pda.
When I try to access the GPS via any of these apps using COM4:, the machine slows down terribly. I haven't been able to get a fix so far either. This morning Quickfix GPS was downloading fine, now it gives connection errors.
I haven't messed with GPS Control Panel yet, but I am wondering if I have a faulty unit, or does the Tomtom 6.032 unlock/change something to make it work.
Has anyone used the unit's GPS without any Tomtom install first? Did anyone experience any slowness using GPS?
Any suggestions? I tried a hard reset and just installed Map4Pda after that, still no luck.

That strange if you dont have TomTom6 in the Application CD.
It is called:
Installer_Kaiser_ttn_6_032_8351_HTC_WWE_20070716.exe
Check your manual, is TomTom6 mentioned there?
If it is, why dont you contact your supplier and ask?
Btw, I use TomTom6 from CD and it is running fine. Got fix pretty quickly under 30 seconds.

TT6
Seems like TT is not on CDs in north america.
Get it - TT6 works like a charm, fix in less then 7 secs here (use the gps quickfix download) and very responsive - even at high speeds.
No complaints on TT for TyTNII

my app cds had the tomtom app.... bought in vegas (uk plug though)

Please test, some reports the gps lost signal after 1 hour.
nukenine said:
Seems like TT is not on CDs in north america.
Get it - TT6 works like a charm, fix in less then 7 secs here (use the gps quickfix download) and very responsive - even at high speeds.
No complaints on TT for TyTNII
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my app cds had the tomtom app.... bought in vegas (uk plug though)
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My app cd says MEA, so it must be from Middle East/Asia. And manual does not refer to TomTom at all. I bought it through SuperiorGadgets. I don't think it is their fault though, it appears devices from certain regions don't have Tomtom.
With that said, I made another hard reset on Friday evening, first installed Beeline GPS, which got a lock after a minute and QuickGPS was updating fine too. Then I installed my apps, after installing several I checked it again, Beeline was fine. Finally I installed Igo 2006 Plus (June 2007 version) and that is working fine and slowness with GPS is gone away. It makes me wonder what caused it in the first place. I'll install couple more GPS apps and see what happens.

HTC TYTN II GPS (Kais 130) - Got it working.....YES
Hi Guys,
I just bougth this HTC TYTN 2 and it seems ok.
For the GPS, I installed Google maps which did not find any satellites either.
I then copied visualgpsce.exe ( in the attachment) on the kaiser and ran it from there, it got 7 sattelites in less than 10 seconds. after that, google worked like magic. I did not have TOMTOM on my CD either so i could not try it and I am in an area that is not covered by maps from TOMTOM, but i think it will work just fine after this nice warmup.
It seems that the first connection require some clear skies, nice warm up software and some patience.
Thanks and good luck.

I'm in the states, got it from Mobileocity. Came with TT6 on app disc. Works like a charm, finds location within 10sec, no slowdown on system.

Hi
Please test, some reports the gps lost signal after 1 hour.
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No problems here, been working perfectly on journeys of 3 and 4 hours.
Regards
Phil

Yeah, it worked perfectly on my last journey too (each 1.5 hour).

Tom Tom v6 Navigator - OK with Kaiser?

Hi All - I can see a few post about the above software. Tom Tom are saying that V6 Navigator is not officially compatible with the Kaiser. Can I assume because there are manly positive posts about it here that it DOES work OK on the device?
I'm with O2 and although they sell (and I've bought) 'Co-Pilot', I been having a few problems with it triggering the message 'the server has been reset...blah...blah...all your data needs to be resynchronised' when I try and sync the device with Outlook. The resyncing is a L-o-n-g process and it wipes out all my quick dials too - ouch!) Co-Pilot Support have confirmed it's a known problem on some devices..so I'm not looking to fix this as O2 are sending me a credit)
Thanks

I got the "o2 Stellar" yesterday and TomTom 6 works fine.. Just find which com port the GPS is assigned to in Start -> Settings -> External GPS .. Then just assign TomTom to that com port via the configuration - I used "Other NMEA GPS Receiver" but I dont think it matters which option you choose aslong as you choose the right port.

TomTom 6 works brilliantly well on my "Stellar".

Got TomTom working on my AT&T Tilt. Pick other GPS receiver, Baud 9600, COM4.

Well, seeing as HTC sell the Tytn II with a trial version of Tomtom, you would rather expect it to work!

Got tomtom v6 working perfectly fine on my tilt with duttys v3 rom. Like posted above, most likely its com 4. Initial start takes about 30 seconds but after that full blast reception.

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Well, seeing as HTC sell the Tytn II with a trial version of Tomtom, you would rather expect it to work!
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TomTom is not trial, it's special Kaiser full version.

stevep said:
Hi All - I can see a few post about the above software. Tom Tom are saying that V6 Navigator is not officially compatible with the Kaiser. Can I assume because there are manly positive posts about it here that it DOES work OK on the device?
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The Tytn II ships with a "Taster" edition of TomTom 6 (version 6.032). Thus I expect TomTom support the platform
Actually I have a "Pukka" copy of the "Navigator 6 software and maps of western Europe", and have raised a few calls about the software (the version on my CD shipped with V6.010, so I asked for latest specifying my exact device, and was pointed to the "downloads" area of tomtom website (version 6.030 is there))
I'm with O2 and although they sell (and I've bought) 'Co-Pilot', I been having a few problems with it triggering the message 'the server has been reset...blah...blah...all your data needs to be resynchronised' when I try and sync the device with Outlook. The resyncing is a L-o-n-g process and it wipes out all my quick dials too - ouch!) Co-Pilot Support have confirmed it's a known problem on some devices..so I'm not looking to fix this as O2 are sending me a credit)
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T-Mobile now offer Co-Pilot with its Tytn II varient (MDA Vario III)
Having had a quick "play" with a co-pilot system, it looked fancier (and has a better "Licensing" policy than tomtom) however I preferred the TomTom software (my Girlfriend has an old TomTom Go)
I have TomTom traffic and Safety camera's options purchase and find these excellent
If you can test co-pilot you might prefer it. I preferred tomtom

Always worked flawlessly on my HTC Kaiser, never messed with gps settings either

Tom Tom and Co Pilot
Thanks everyone. I'm going to purchase Tom Tom as Co Pilot caused a few serious problems on my Stellar

But you should have TomTom already if you own Kaiser device...

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true... plus, there's always *other* ways of getting TOMTOM

Older version also works, but the 6.032 has "Build-in GPS receiver" option. In older you need to manually set it up as other NMEA receiver. In Poland EraGSM (soon to be T-Mobile) provide Vario III with full version of TT6 with regional maps.

I'm running TomTom that's "for the Trinity" from HTC e-club. I used the same thing on my Trinity and it auto picked up the internal, and has internal GPS setting. On my Tilt, this option is not available, but picked other, baud 9600, com 4 and it works nice and fast

tomtom 6
Hey all, been running tomtom 6.032 on my o2 Stellar with absolutly no problems at all!! It is by far the best sat nav for pocket pc. I have tried most programs out there but tomtom wins hands down for speed, stability and performance.. 10/10

I agree duncstar- have tried iGo and Navigon but TomTom is far quicker and more stable.
Out of interest, can someone calify the differences between the TomTom Taster and regular TomTom?

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TomTom is not trial, it's special Kaiser full version.
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No its not - its not special in any way. You have to buy any of the maps you wish to use (except for the 'free' city map they give you).

I installed TomTom Navigator 6 V6.010 with 6.75 US/Canada maps into my Tilt...everything works except one feature in the point of interest. It doesn't list nearby "stores" in the Los Angeles. Only show Apple etc. stores that are in the east coast, what gives? What can I do to fix this? thanks

Thanks for help
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Hey all, been running tomtom 6.032 on my o2 Stellar with absolutly no problems at all!! It is by far the best sat nav for pocket pc. I have tried most programs out there but tomtom wins hands down for speed, stability and performance.. 10/10
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Thanks Duncstar for your help. Especially as you're an O2 user in the UK too Thanks also to everyone else who offered advice and pointed me in the right direction. I did read some stuff about 'maps not showing up'. Duncstar - Did yours work literally 'straight out of the box'?

I have an imported Kaiser here in the US. Tom Tom works perfectly. I bought the usa/canada maps from amazon for $125. Installed it and no issues. I did have to select the gps, used 57,000 baud, com 4 and it's great.
There's also a "quick gps" application on your phone. Use it to help zero in the gps even better. It wants to run once a week.
I also bought and installed the Mr. T voice and I'm officially the biggest nerd on my block now. Turn Right Sucka!
Oh yeah, I"m not sure which version of TT6 was on my kaiser. When I installed the purchased software, it loaded up version 6.010. I had to go to tom tom's website and download the 6.030 version.