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Delorme Street Atlas USA

Has anyone used Delorme Street Atlas USA with the Kaiser? It looks like a decent alternative to Tom Tom...

It is currently not compatiable with Kaiser and they are aware of the problem.
When you close the program or tell it to disconnect from GPS it locks up your device.
I can confirm this behavior as I spent the money to buy it. Wasable to convince Best Buy to accept it back. DeLorme offered to refund my purchase price in the event that Best Buy wouldn't allow the return.
Good company that has been doing maps for a long time, I hope they sort the problem out quickly.

I looked at it due to the price and thought that it would be a great buy, but the reviews on Amazon were less than steller. Several reviewers complained the maps were not up to date, but the big thing that sold me away from it was a mention elsewhere that "within the desktop application, you actually select and create a map for a specific circumstance." http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/articles.php?action=expand,56666&start=2
What if I'm already away from home and need to get directions? That won't for for me, sorry. I guess I'll shell out the big bucks for TomTom or similar.

They offer a 30 day mbg. I got my check yesterday. It's a nice program but doesn't play nice with the tilt. It was also missing a feature i like, directions by gps position. You always had to give it a start and end, with Tomtom or WLS you can just tell the program to start where you currently are.

agoyeneche said:
Has anyone used Delorme Street Atlas USA with the Kaiser? It looks like a decent alternative to Tom Tom...
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It is not, by any means, a decent alternative.
Its user interface is extremely clunky, and it is SLOW. POI Search and routing on-device is essentially useless in SA2006HH and all indications I have seen say that SA2008HH is no better. DeLorme couldn't even get it right with the PN-20.
That said - if you need topographic maps on a PDA, DeLorme is the way to go. I use TomTom for driving, and once SA2008HH gets fixed for the Kaiser I will be upgrading to 2008HH from 2006HH (which worked well with an external BT GPS on my Hermes.) for topo capability.

Here I am playing nice, searching and finding an old topic to resurrect instead of starting a new one...
I have an old (2002) version of Delorme Xmap for pocket PC.
I just loaded it up today on my tilt, I already had prepared maps for the Northwest USA so I added those.
The program started up, I changed the settings to look at port 4 and since I had started my GPS with GPSTest it found the device and located my position very quickly.
Here is the reason I am posting:
I see they have version 2009 out now and it looks pretty good.
However if it causes lockups on the Kaiser then I should not buy it.
Still - for $40 it seems you get a lot.
http://shop.delorme.com/OA_HTML/DELibeCCtdItemDetail.jsp?item=27867&section=10120

I have the 2005 version with both streets and topo maps, it ran just fine on my Hermes (AT&T 8525) with a bluetooth GPS receiver but would never run right on my Kaiser (AT&T TILT). Being an avid outsdoorsman I miss my topo maps but, have found an alturnative, freeware called TGPS, it takes a little more work to setup and install maps but it works great.

I have version 2009 -- it works perfectly fine on the kaiser

burtcom said:
I have version 2009 -- it works perfectly fine on the kaiser
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Thanks Burtcom - just what I needed to hear.
Is it also fast? Or sluggish?

resonably fast -- except when you first zoom out to level 5 or higher. It can take a while to render the map at that level -- then its fast enough for the rest of the session.
It depends on how much info you've saved in the maps, though.
I tree to keep maps exported to the Kaiser about 1 to 2 MB in size, though I do have a 14MB map of much of the Western US, levels 5 to 9 or so, that has decent performance

copilot 7 and traffic

anyone know how to purchase the traffic updates on copilot 7?

Havent got my phone on me at mo but if I remember rightly you have to purchase them through the app itself. I came across a screen think it was the about screen and it has ticks and crosses for what you have and what you dont have. There was an update button there. Sorry I cant be more specific will look when I am near my phone and let you know later if you cant find it.

cheers desktop i feel i have tried anything and im tearing my hair out now!! im tempted to jump ship to tomtom because this is ridiculous product should be easily useable! when i go to live and connect it doesnt even connect to the internet! have you had any problems with copilot 7?

if i go to the licensing screen it says upgrade and then i put my reg key in and it says i have am incorrect product key!!!! so frustrating!

I have only had the product since yesterday so not had a chance to really use it much yet. From driving round town with it yesterday I definately prefer it to copilot 6. Its easier to follow and warns you of speed cameras without losing the map of where you are. Seemed to take me on better routes than copilot 6 did too.
As for the live bit I havent tried that yet. Most people arent interested when I am going to arrive! Besides they'd just ring me on my other mobile to find out where I am!! lol
Have you managed to upgrade to traffic yet?

no still cant get the traffic to work can you check the steps to upgrade so i can have a go! cheers mate

Just one question about CoPilot Live 6 or 7. Do they support Text 2 Speech? When you are driving does it tell you the names of the streets?
- TKN

tariq_niazi said:
Just one question about CoPilot Live 6 or 7. Do they support Text 2 Speech? When you are driving does it tell you the names of the streets?
- TKN
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Yes it Does.
JPHCCFC said:
cheers desktop i feel i have tried anything and im tearing my hair out now!! im tempted to jump ship to tomtom because this is ridiculous product should be easily useable! when i go to live and connect it doesnt even connect to the internet! have you had any problems with copilot 7?
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I have been using copiolt for over 3 years on my laptop and after calling them many many times I still can't get live services to work. I expect the same on the PPC version of the software and thats why I choose not to buy it. When talking to customer service they say they get their traffic updates from yahoo traffic and their servers must be down. BS!
My suggestion is to go with Telenav for the 30 day free trial and get the GarminXT Micro sd card when it comes out later this month for $99. I have mine on preorder and hope to get it before my 30 day trial runs out. Telenav works great but you can't navigate to a contact in your phone book. You must enter the address manuly, it uses your 3G or Edge connection constantly while navigating. And it's $10 a month after 30 days or $99 a year. A BIG + is that you can enter a address by voice though.

Another question for anyone who has owned CoPilot before. For the Live Traffic, do you pay annually or is it once after you buy it? Also, when I get the memory card (which is 2GB), if I copy everything to my 8GB microSDHC, will everything work?
I am really considering buying this software as TomTom is giving me a lot of problem with Live Traffic (it is due to the free map that I am using but I don't have space to put in the entire US map yet). Also, the interface looks much nicer and I really need the Text2Speech thing for my navigation as TomTom sometimes confuses me.
- TKN

tariq_niazi said:
Another question for anyone who has owned CoPilot before. For the Live Traffic, do you pay annually or is it once after you buy it? Also, when I get the memory card (which is 2GB), if I copy everything to my 8GB microSDHC, will everything work?
I am really considering buying this software as TomTom is giving me a lot of problem with Live Traffic (it is due to the free map that I am using but I don't have space to put in the entire US map yet). Also, the interface looks much nicer and I really need the Text2Speech thing for my navigation as TomTom sometimes confuses me.
- TKN
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You dont have to pay for live service. At least not on the laptop version. But once again I haven't been able to get it to work.

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tariq_niazi said:
Another question for anyone who has owned CoPilot before. For the Live Traffic, do you pay annually or is it once after you buy it? Also, when I get the memory card (which is 2GB), if I copy everything to my 8GB microSDHC, will everything work?
I am really considering buying this software as TomTom is giving me a lot of problem with Live Traffic (it is due to the free map that I am using but I don't have space to put in the entire US map yet). Also, the interface looks much nicer and I really need the Text2Speech thing for my navigation as TomTom sometimes confuses me.
- TKN
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I just got the CoPilot Live 7 software and I've tried everything possible to get it to work and nothing. I copied the 2GB microSD contents over to my 6GB card and executed an autorun and nothing. Tried again and launched the .cab file and nothing. Hooked it up to the laptop and installed the software from there saving it to the storage care ... nothing. I uninstalled between each load attempts and absolutely nothing. I don't want to put it on the phone as it runs from their dang SD card, so why won't it run from mine? Has to be some kind of proprietary thing or a bug. I don't want to load it on the main memory as I'm runing out. I've used CoPilot since version 3 and have always saved it onto the card.
If anyone can help, I'd greatly appreciate it.

COPILOT 7 Traffic Free
Here you go
http://www.alk.com/store/cart.asp?Action=AddItem&SKU=DIG-CP10-TRF
COPILOT 7 Traffic Free

TomTom discontinuing Navigator ?

Through conversations with a few folks I've learned that TomTom is apparently contemplating ceasing any further development on any products for PDA's. They are apparently no longer supporting Nav6 nor will they provide any further map/poi updates for Nav6. They had apparently begun development of Nav7/8 but have suspended that project until a go/no decision is made.
This decision is apparently being driven primarily by significant bootlegging of maps (their primary source of income with Nav software).
I have gotten this info second-hand, but believe it is reliable. Has anyone else heard anything along these lines?

Interesting...
I had to call them to help me activate my maps on my fourth replacement tilt. In the course of conversation, I asked about new maps. And the answer was there were new maps but not for navigator 6....they were developing navigator 7 and were in the process of determining "viability." When I asked if that meant they were thinking of discontinuing it, he backpedaled and said they just want to make sure that everything works with such a wide variety of devices to support - palm, symbian, windows mobile.
With what you heard, it sounds like it could be a possibilty. Shame. It's a good program...

I agree, it's an excellent program and I get a lot of good use out of it, I hope they continue to upgrade and improve it. The ONLY thing I don't like about TomTom Navigator 6 is that it doesn't have Text to Speech, it would be nice to hear "turn right on Yuba Street then turn right on California Street" instead of just "Turn right then turn right".

freddiemac1 said:
Interesting...
I had to call them to help me activate my maps on my fourth replacement tilt. In the course of conversation, I asked about new maps. And the answer was there were new maps but not for navigator 6....they were developing navigator 7 and were in the process of determining "viability." When I asked if that meant they were thinking of discontinuing it, he backpedaled and said they just want to make sure that everything works with such a wide variety of devices to support - palm, symbian, windows mobile.
With what you heard, it sounds like it could be a possibilty. Shame. It's a good program...
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They released new maps this past week for the Nav6 as well as all their other products.
Until you see this on their web site it is just someone's rumor.
http://www.tomtom.com/products/maps/?Lid=4
Bill

Do you know if those truly are new maps? After installing TT on my Kais and downloading the free map for my metro area 5 days ago I've found a large number of outdated things including 1 year old streets not in TT and POI's 1 to 4 years out of date. I'd think that they'd want the map they give you for a trial to get you to purchase from them would be the most up to date.

Can anyone tell what the exact version is of the new maps? From what I can read about them is that they are version 6.75 but they done give the build number. I already have version 6.75.1409. Just wanting to know if they really are newer maps.

So use Google Maps.....
It doesn't have text to speech either but it is FREE! and I suspect the real reason TomTom are no longer going to support the PDA version. Very powerful - search for "KFC" and it will find all the nearest with clickable links to websites, phone numbers, driving directions from current position, from an input address from a contact etc. Everything you could want when you need to top up on Kentucky Fried Chipmunks.....or whatever you need to find.
Of course as it is "live" and downloads maps on the fly you better have an unlimited data plan. But it is cool driving along in Satellite View!
HINT - the CAB is not seperately downloadable. You have to download it direct to your PDA - last time I did it was about 1.5Mb. Though once you have the CAB in memory you can back it up to your PC.

These are not new maps - they are the same as what i downloaded several weeks ago.
This has also been confirmed at the following site
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=400322#400322
"TomTom have today announced the availability of the v.7.20 maps from the Map Shop as well as the v.8.05 maps for the GOx30 users.
All existing map versions that were previously available from the shop have now been replaced with the new v.720 maps for all PND’s except the GOx30 series. GOx30 owners can now buy new map version v.8.05. Anyone contemplating a map purchase is advised that the maps are device dependent and therefore it is important that you select the exact device model you own to ensure you receive the correct map.
The 7.20 and 8.05 maps are based on TeleAtlas 2008.01 data.
The 6.75 maps will remain available in the Map Shop for NAVIGATOR 6 users and Automotive units (Eclipse, Daihatsu, Toyota) Note: Rider and Rider 2 users can now buy the new v.720 maps (premium maps) from the map shop."

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It doesn't have text to speech either but it is FREE! and I suspect the real reason TomTom are no longer going to support the PDA version. Very powerful - search for "KFC" and it will find all the nearest with clickable links to websites, phone numbers, driving directions from current position, from an input address from a contact etc. Everything you could want when you need to top up on Kentucky Fried Chipmunks.....or whatever you need to find.
Of course as it is "live" and downloads maps on the fly you better have an unlimited data plan. But it is cool driving along in Satellite View!
HINT - the CAB is not seperately downloadable. You have to download it direct to your PDA - last time I did it was about 1.5Mb. Though once you have the CAB in memory you can back it up to your PC.
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The one big disadvantage of google maps is that it DOES require that live connection. If you are in a poor reception - or no reception area - it is hard to get those directions. For me, i would rather have it sitting on my device and just be dependent on the satellites....instead of BOTH satellite and cell tower.

I don't think the have stoped developing v7 because the new HTC Daimond comes with v7 intergrated in the rom. This can be found in several artical on XDA.

There is much to like about google maps. As you mentioned, they are constantly updated, fairly accurate, have tons of useful info, allow you to click on POI's for info, to call POI, or link to POI website.
Unfortunately it doesn't have turn-by-turn capabilities (at least that I've ever seen) or allow you to keep maps on your device (besides costly when roaming, I seem to always find areas without cell service). It doesn't determine your direction of travel with an arrow, only shows a dot. These are the biggies. Some of the route planning and other things that TT or Garmin have are also useful but missing from Goog. Google's love of learning anything and everything about people for their own profit is also a bit disconcerting. Them knowing where I've been, where I am, and where I'm going is perhaps too much.
Telenav only works in the US, Garmin is coming out with their own phone to avoid the pirated maps/revenue issue...

Darren Griffin from PocketGPS forum has written the following statement
"In Amsterdam last week I quizzed TomTom on this and whilst their future plans for PocketPC were vague, they did suggest that piracy had been major issue and 'if' any future releases were planned they would most likely only be in partnership with manufacturers. "
www.pocketgpsworld.com
Article is on the home page discussed under "HTC Launch O2 XDA Diamond in Germany with TomTom v7"

Google
Google does not offer voice guidance or turn-by-turn maps. However, Google does offer a traffic overlay which is free (TomTom charges) and does not require updates.
Oddly, it seems to take TomTom about 10 minutes or so to get a GPS lock. Google (with GPS turned on) seems to take less than a minute. I have never understood that

jwbrint said:
Can anyone tell what the exact version is of the new maps? From what I can read about them is that they are version 6.75 but they done give the build number. I already have version 6.75.1409. Just wanting to know if they really are newer maps.
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I called and the 1409 is the latest version of the map.
Tech support indicates that they have no plans to discontinue the Nav6.
Bill

jdmba said:
Oddly, it seems to take TomTom about 10 minutes or so to get a GPS lock. Google (with GPS turned on) seems to take less than a minute. I have never understood that
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Mine (Kaiser w/ TT) almost always gets GPS lock within about 30 seconds of starting the TT app. This is in US including MN, CA, NY, and GA.

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Mine (Kaiser w/ TT) almost always gets GPS lock within about 30 seconds of starting the TT app. This is in US including MN, CA, NY, and GA.
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Yep, same here, TomTom has a lock and is showing my location in at most 60s when I turn it on while driving. If I'm sitting still, it's less than that.
The Tilt does not seem to have much luck getting a signal when shielded from the sky, however.. Even sitting in a restaurant near a window I've found it completely unable to get a signal but it locked on in <15s when outside. I always mount my Tilt on my 'grip' mount on my dashboard so it has a reasonable view of the sky.

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Yep, same here, TomTom has a lock and is showing my location in at most 60s when I turn it on while driving. If I'm sitting still, it's less than that.
The Tilt does not seem to have much luck getting a signal when shielded from the sky, however.. Even sitting in a restaurant near a window I've found it completely unable to get a signal but it locked on in <15s when outside. I always mount my Tilt on my 'grip' mount on my dashboard so it has a reasonable view of the sky.
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Do you have aGPS enabled? That will enable you to get a lock even inside of buildings, or anywhere that has little or no view of the sky.

I hope they do move to navigator 7 at some point as I like the idea of things like map share that are avaliable on the go 720 tomtom models.

Looks like there will be TomTom 7 for Procket PC.
There is a news item on MoDaCo website.
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-professional-news/268462/tomtom-7-coming-to-pocket-pc-soon/

i get a quick lock on tomtom, but poor refresh updates from the GPS chip, so its laggy as.
TOMTOM also dont support the kaiser, TYTN II, or the OEM Branded ones, so getting support is a pain (even though my bloody phone came with tomtom on a CD!)
My GPS Reception jumps all over the place too. very unreliable.

Garmin Lag

does garmin lag on anyone elses tilt or is mine just messed up. by lag i mean its very choppy. it updates itself like every two seconds. annoying like crazy. i love the interface and the maps look better than tomtom, but i just cant seem to get used to the choppyness. i'ved tried changing setting and all the tools it comes with but can't seem to change this. does anyone else have this problem?

My works great with Garmin Mobile XT on the micro-sd it came with.
I forget, but I think there is a setting to be sure the micro-sd card is not powered down on the Tilt? i could be totally off-base on that though... but worth a look!

yeah, its in the kaiser tweak software. i tried it both ways and its still hella slow...

no problem
Mine works perfect.

When I tried it I had a very slow interface as well. It was always like a half of block away from any intersection and was slow on turns.
I moved to iGo and love it. Better (imo) interface than both TT and Garmin XT

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Mine works perfect.
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care to ellaborate? how about what rom you are using ? or what version of garmin mobile xt ?
I used garmin mobile on L26 Diamond rom v9 and it lagged so bad. It would be off by almost half a block on city streets. On highways it would pause for about 10 seconds at a time is some instances. I really like garmin with all the features it has and I am still keeping it on my phone just for traffic detours. But if there is a way to get it so it didnt lag and ran at least as smooth as tomtom that would be great.
TomTom is a very competent nav program , but I have opted to go with iGO8 as it is much smoother , it features TTS and the interface has more functiions, although i read that the maps have errors in them , I have yet to experience it.

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...... , but I have opted to go with iGO8 as it is much smoother , it features TTS and the interface has more functiions, although i read that the maps have errors in them , I have yet to experience it.
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How do you get TTS to work on igo? I have igo june 3rd release.. but no TTS..
I have all 3 and I like igo the most...
TomTom - easiest to use... maps kinda outdated.. picks funky routes and the eta time is way off
Garmin XT - poi are out of date... better then tomtom as far as eta... about the same at picking routes... i wish i could customize the display more... cant change schemes or "skin"
iGo - nicest looking.. poi is better then garmin.. picks better routes.. eta time is better... no traffic it even shows buildings which is cool... it uses skins, backgrounds and map colors... highly customizable

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How do you get TTS to work on igo? I have igo june 3rd release.. but no TTS..
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405616
Follow instructions there on how to install.
If you are using it in North America , get the Phenomes.
It is bad ass. Dont have to look at the screen, it tells the names of the roads clearly.

ahh thanks... I saw that thread before but the links were dead... now there are some updated links... I'll try this out asap

i have tryied every gps software out there on my att tilt and there is nothing close to tomtoms coverage of maps interface is not that good but who cares. i live in area where streets are not older then 3-4 years tomtom has most of them other softwares not even that part of city. i use tomtom 7 with usa and canada 720.1802. tomtom is way to go. go test it your self get navi or garmin and tomtom with in same price range and test them in area not that popular and you will see who is the best. good luck

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405616
Follow instructions there on how to install.
If you are using it in North America , get the Phenomes.
It is bad ass. Dont have to look at the screen, it tells the names of the roads clearly.
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I tried it and its acting flaky... at first it didnt work... then it started using the number instead of the name for a road.. for instance the road name was old apex road and it was also state road 1022... it would say turn on to 1022..
after that it stated working correctly... saying the road names...
now today it dosent say anything... just beeps when a turn is coming up... all this without me changing anything... just turning the program on and off... havnt installed any other software...
p.s. what do you mean by phenomes?

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p.s. what do you mean by phenomes?
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Best Nav Software

Which Nav Soft you use, and why do you like it?

CoPilot Live 7 - 'nuf said.

Wow Scilor, you are a brave man. This has been asked many times, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=best+nav+software&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=10&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.xda-developers.com&as_qdr=all&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images. Not sure if a poll has been taken though. The BEST is very subjective. Maybe a better question is "what do you use". In any case, I am running away fast before the bombs come.

i like TomTom 7...i used iGo8, but its not so great, it just looks great...i am in LA, where there are plenty of buildings, but there arent any buildings for igo 8 so its kinda pointless

I have four good ones, but decided on Garmin
I currently have tt7, navigon, igo8, and garmin 2009...I like igo8 the best, really just because of the cool maps...but without a TCM device, I went with Garmin for the free traffic over gprs...
It is good, I used tt6 forever, and tt7 is mostly the same with some impovements, it has a really simple UI, but also has limited features (i.e. no over trip stats, traffic requires subscription, etc)...so i only have been using Garmin for about a week, i will see how it goes...

errrr all of them and a few more depending on what I am doing and where I am going.
EG: If I am running an off road route in my 4x4 TomTom is niether use nor ornament as it's simply all green on the map. So I use MemoryMap.
Psi

exzist78 said:
I currently have tt7, navigon, igo8, and garmin 2009...I like igo8 the best, really just because of the cool maps...but without a TCM device, I went with Garmin for the free traffic over gprs...
It is good, I used tt6 forever, and tt7 is mostly the same with some impovements, it has a really simple UI, but also has limited features (i.e. no over trip stats, traffic requires subscription, etc)...so i only have been using Garmin for about a week, i will see how it goes...
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does garmin lag for you ? like in cities it is off by maybe half a block, be super slow on turns ( so slow that you miss the next turn if it is close by) and on highways it might lag out for 10 seconds before getting back on route ?
if not please let me know what rom you are using and what version of garmin.

Destinator 7, like it cause the maps are really accurate...

No, not noticeably...
I say this with a condition however; TT7 does seem the smoothest (rerouting, staying consistant, etc) however, it is slight. I noticed the iGO8 actually tends to have more laginess than the others; surely, because of the great maps and user interface. Yet, again it is slight at most, nothing too bad. I have used them both on Leos Roms (V_9), and on ROMeOS v4...As far as the Garmin version, I installed the 2009 Version, it loaded something like v. 40010w.exe; however, you can update this from the Garmin site to version 42050w.exe; they claim many improvements from the first file i have listed until the last. If you do update, I found the easiest way to accomplish this is by first installing the older version, connecting through WMDC, then updating the software that way...Good Luck...
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does garmin lag for you ? like in cities it is off by maybe half a block, be super slow on turns ( so slow that you miss the next turn if it is close by) and on highways it might lag out for 10 seconds before getting back on route ?
if not please let me know what rom you are using and what version of garmin.
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Im using AutoMap5. Its great for Poland and Europe.
Video - credits goes to author

This moment I have Navigon: it does exactly what it supposed to do, easy to use. Great forum for tricks and tips, only German. Befor Navigon I had TomTom but I refuse to buy a new product of them. (I bought a new release and within a month they simply told the pda wasn't supported anymore so I had nothing exept a empty pocket.No discussion possible.)

Nav4all....
not the best... but very, very free.

tt6 and iguidance both work great.

TOMTOM is my choice!

TTN7 FTW; the best by far IMO.

I use TT6
it was on my Kaiser

Garmin has a wonderful interface - very easy to use, finger-friendly, and functional. It also consistently locks onto a GPS signal in less than 20 seconds.
The only other app. I've used is iGuidance, which had plenty of issues:
Slow GPS lock
Clunky interface
Sluggish performance

Wait lol...Deffinetly the guy who said Nav4all is a good gps app is smokin crack...that gps app was the first gps prog I ever used ..and it was only cuz it was free and I didn't know diddly about TomTOM and that people had actually extracted it and posted it on xda..and first things first... Nav4all is like a cheap european hooker version of a gps application. The people who made that thing really must not of liked themselves..its a kmart version o what gps software should be..I never used an app that lacked everything gps software is supposed to have..it was bare bone..it could only locate maybe half of a satelite and had no turn by turn..no poi..nothing.........
But anywayz TomTom7 is by far the best and user friendly gps software out there..and u guys that are still using TT6...geezus just upgrade to TT7...why wouldn't u? such a better upgrade believe me. And for the people who don't like how the map colors look..just PAY for the more expensve colored maps and search around ull find something u like..I mean I hear that IGO and Garmin are "pretty" looking gps maps and all , but their defintely not as user friendly, as detailed and as easy to use...and im 100% sure theres nothing out their as precise and as accurate as TT7. TOMTOM7 has no lag whatso ever...and the estimated arrival time and when u actually get too the location are accurate to a T!. I mean it can't get any bettter...so until I see other gps software becoming as accurate as TOMTOM, I doubt a lot of us will be switching gps software anytime soon, just look at this simple forum poll...I mean iphone users are dying for TT to be available for the iphone..which I doubt It will be, those flunks are stuck with piss on me googlemaps Lol....
anywayz goodluck on finding a gps software u like, this is my 2 cents on it.

its all about google maps! tried route66 but ended up just using google.

Shub-Niggurath said:
its all about google maps! tried route66 but ended up just using google.
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Sorry for little OT, but
Wow, Lovecraft lover here?