Please help me out in my thinking about whether the device or the computer should win when there is conflicting data during a sync.
I would normally think the phone should win when it comes to contacts as I basically use outlook to keep a backup of my contacts. However I am concerned about when I do a ROM upgrade. The device will be empty at the time I first sync, and my concern is that this will cause the Outlook contacts to be deleted. Am I correct in my thinking?
I would always use the computer as the main copy and replace on the device. When you do a rom upgrade you are connecting as a new device and set up a new partnership. It will copy all contacts from the pc then.
If I have the computer as the winner, is the syncing smart enough to recognise that if I have changed a contact on the device, it is newer than the one on the computer and should thus replace the contact on the computer?
If the phone is master and its empty it'll copy from the computer, the only time the master or slave argument comes into play is if two contacts/appointments are identical in name then the master gets copied overwriting the slave.
And if the slave gets updated with at a newer time than the master, the master will over-rule even if its older.
same problem
Even I had the same problem after installing new ROM. my all contacts got deleted even from outlook. It was my luck that i had done backup of my phone with sprite backup before upgrading ROM. I restored my backup & i got my all contacts.
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I installed Activesync 4.5 and MS Outlook 2007 (both came in CD with phone). (I have Windows XP in comp.)
But, when I connect the phone it fails to sync and shows the error :
ActiveSync encountered a problem on the desktop.
Support Code:85010014
The Windows Mobile website is of no use. It asks us to download the ActiveSync 4.5 version, while I already have that.
I uninstalled both AvtiveSync and Outlook then reinstalled. The Problem still persists.
Try to reflash your Rom/Hard reset your phone
But, I never did flashing.
I don't have the backup of the contacts, so that I can hard reset.
Use PIMBackup to make a backup of your calendar, contacts, messages..etc..
There are various programs you can use to back up your phone ... HTC Backup, SPB Backup, SpriteBackup...etc.. PIMBackup is free.
I backed it up using PIMBackup. Not yet tried hard reset.
Mean time, my friend connected his P4350 to my computer (we bought the phones together). His phone got synchronized smoothly. No error.!!!!
How is this possible? Both have same stock rom. Similar applications installed.
I'll hardreset the phone later today.
Finally I hardereset the device. Now it does sync with computer easily.
The problem is, it is updating the contacts with my friends phone contacts (which I did synchronise previously with my computer). Not a big issue. Have to find the file where it is saving the synchronised contacts.
Hey everyone,
I want to synchronize my phone but it wont let me without first deleting the "other pc" it's synced with. Here's what happened:
About a year ago when I first got my AT&T Tilt, I setup a profile, bleh bleh.. But then I needed to re-image my desktop because I had done some hardware upgrades. In doing so, I lost my synchronization profile thing.
I do have a entire copy of my old drive, if there's somehow a way to get the files from there and/or the registry or whatever I need, please point me in the direction. But I would consider this a last resort.
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So, my question is: How can I clear out all of the ActiveSync data on both the Windows Mobile Phone and my Windows XP? Start over fresh without losing any data on the phone while being able to resync EVERYTHING.
Thanks?
~XGhozt
To be absolutely sure, backup your data with "PimBackup", search on this forum. When disconnected, open ActiveSync on your device and PC and delete all partnerships on device and PC. It will only remove partnerships, not your data. Connect your device and it will create a new partnership and synchronise.
Hm, yes, I have that already installed. I'll uncheck one thing at a time and test everything before I do the big ones.
I appreciate your reply.
Okay, I just unchecked tasks since I can re-sync that easily, and it deleted all of my tasks, this confirms that it will also delete my contacts and other content.
Can't I just manually delete the active sync data? Delete the registry entries and any files it uses to keep a record of the partnership?
When you uncheck tasks in ActiveSync (AS), it shouldn't delete any data on your PC or device but only stop the synchronization between PC and device. In my previous post, I wasn't talking about deleting any data on the PC or device (tasks, …). Everything is done within ActiveSync: without connecting the device, open the ActiveSync program on your PC, select and delete the name of your device's partnership. Still unconnected, do the same on your device. Then, connect your device and as there is no existing partnership, ActiveSync will create a new one, asking for your settings, then select the data you want to synchronize (tasks, …) and at the end, it will synchronize what you selected.
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When you uncheck tasks in ActiveSync (AS), it shouldn't delete any data on your PC or device but only stop the synchronization between PC and device. In my previous post, I wasn't talking about deleting any data on the PC or device (tasks, …). Everything is done within ActiveSync: without connecting the device, open the ActiveSync program on your PC, select and delete the name of your device's partnership. Still unconnected, do the same on your device. Then, connect your device and as there is no existing partnership, ActiveSync will create a new one, asking for your settings, then select the data you want to synchronize (tasks, …) and at the end, it will synchronize what you selected.
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That's exactly how I thought it worked, but here's what happened:
When I deleted the partnership on the PC, then when I connected the device it asked to create a second relationship because it thinks it's a different computer.
When I try to delete the partnership on the device within active sync, I get prompted with: "Deleting this source deletes only the sync relationship and items exclusively used by that source. All others will remain on the device. Would you like to continue". All of the "items" are checked for that partnership, and like I said, when I just tried to uncheck ONE of them it deleted all of the data for that item.
Now I'm hesitant to click "Yes" in fear that it could potentially delete everything.
For the worst case, I would first make an Outlook or Windows backup of your data. Additionally, did you make a backup with PimBackup on your device, selecting all data? With this you shouldn't loose any data.
Deleting a partnership on an unconnected device should not remove your data on the paired PC, I believe the warning is only for data on the device.
What I would do after backing up is:
1) without being connected and within ActiveSync (AS), remove all existing AS partnerships on PC and device
2) connect device and create new AS partnership
3) synchronize and you should retrieve on your device all your data stored on the PC.
anoano said:
For the worst case, I would first make an Outlook or Windows backup of your data. Additionally, did you make a backup with PimBackup on your device, selecting all data? With this you shouldn't loose any data.
Deleting a partnership on an unconnected device should not remove your data on the paired PC, I believe the warning is only for data on the device.
What I would do after backing up is:
1) without being connected and within ActiveSync (AS), remove all existing AS partnerships on PC and device
2) connect device and create new AS partnership
3) synchronize and you should retrieve on your device all your data stored on the PC.
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The only problem with that solution is that, I don't have a backup of my data on my PC. This is why I need to re sync everything, to create a backup. But I can't because it's synced with my last installation, pre-hardware update (as previously noted). So, the data on the device is the only data I have, and I want to create the partnership without losing anything.
As mentioned earlier, you can back up your data with PimBackup (freeware)http://www.dotfred.net/ or Sprite Backup http://www.spritesoftware.com/products/download.php?pid=191 (trial version) on your device and restore it in the worst case.
I took a brave step and deleted the registry settings which looked like the partnership key's. I then restarted ActiveSync and the profile was gone, it didn't touch my files and it acted like it had never synced before. When I connected it to the computer after doing this, it syncronized everything without deleting anything.
Thanks for the help, but sometimes it just takes some hacking.
1. I have contacts on my X1, and on my PC (Outlook).
I make a sync - will all of the contacts appear on my X1 and PC
I mean all of the PC ones on X1, and all from X1 on PC?
So contact is lost in that process?
2. What happens when one takes out the memory card out of X1?
And puts it back?
Will all the programs installed on card work normally?
Question nr.2
For the 2 question when i take out memory card and put it back nothing changed,all apps on storage card work ok. I have 2gb card with garmin navigation,and other items.
For 1 question cant answer because i dont have outlook.
My os is windows 7 for the time.
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For the 2 question when i take out memory card and put it back nothing changed,all apps on storage card work ok. I have 2gb card with garmin navigation,and other items.
For 1 question cant answer because i dont have outlook.
My os is windows 7 for the time.
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Well thank you very much for reply!
doministry said:
1. I have contacts on my X1, and on my PC (Outlook).
I make a sync - will all of the contacts appear on my X1 and PC
I mean all of the PC ones on X1, and all from X1 on PC?
So contact is lost in that process?
2. What happens when one takes out the memory card out of X1?
And puts it back?
Will all the programs installed on card work normally?
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1 - I don't use contact syncing.
2 - Yes.
orelsi said:
1 - I don't use contact syncing.
2 - Yes.
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Ok, thank you too.
Hopefully somebody DOES sync.
I actually came to the idea I remove all of the contacts, notes etc. from PC and run Sync. Hope to see all the data copied to my PC!
doministry said:
1. I have contacts on my X1, and on my PC (Outlook).
I make a sync - will all of the contacts appear on my X1 and PC
I mean all of the PC ones on X1, and all from X1 on PC?
So contact is lost in that process?
2. What happens when one takes out the memory card out of X1?
And puts it back?
Will all the programs installed on card work normally?
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I SYNC!
I think it will merge the two sets of people it will add to both - but if there are any overlaps it will either ask you or there is a setting which is under Mobile Device Center which says "Overwrite contacts from X1 or PC" or something like that - although i have had someproblems with outlook where when syncing it would randomly delete both from my phone and x1 but luckily outlook has a recycle bin like feature.
Hope this anwers your question
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I SYNC!
I think it will merge the two sets of people it will add to both - but if there are any overlaps it will either ask you or there is a setting which is under Mobile Device Center which says "Overwrite contacts from X1 or PC" or something like that - although i have had someproblems with outlook where when syncing it would randomly delete both from my phone and x1 but luckily outlook has a recycle bin like feature.
Hope this anwers your question
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Okay looks like my answer!
Thanks!
Done this lots of times and yes, Activesync on the PC will prompt you whether you want to merge or overwrite the data - which then applies for all your Outlook data inc. contacts, calendar, tasks and notes. If you choose to merge, AS should work out which is the most recent record when encountering exact duplicates and ditch the oldest one.
But from experience if your data is important to you I STRONGLY recommend that you do a backup of your PC Outlook data first (e.g. by exporting all to a new PST file), and also on the handheld with the excellent and free PIM Backup application, before you connect the two together. Otherwise you may end up with lots of duplications (or worse, unseen deletions), which can be an absolute nightmare to sort out.
PIM backup is also useful for keeping your essential data safe on your SD card should you need to hard reset the phone while you're away from your PC.
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Done this lots of times and yes, Activesync on the PC will prompt you whether you want to merge or overwrite the data - which then applies for all your Outlook data inc. contacts, calendar, tasks and notes. If you choose to merge, AS should work out which is the most recent record when encountering exact duplicates and ditch the oldest one.
But from experience if your data is important to you I STRONGLY recommend that you do a backup of your PC Outlook data first (e.g. by exporting all to a new PST file), and also on the handheld with the excellent and free PIM Backup application, before you connect the two together. Otherwise you may end up with lots of duplications (or worse, unseen deletions), which can be an absolute nightmare to sort out.
PIM backup is also useful for keeping your essential data safe on your SD card should you need to hard reset the phone while you're away from your PC.
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Just to add to that - you could also use Microsofts MyPhone service - at least that is what i have been using to store data online so there is even less chance of it being lost
Guys I really appreciate your help.
I already have PPCPimBackup,
I just wanted to be sure I understand the sync.
Right now I want to delete all contacts on my Outlook,
and sync this with X1 so all data from X1 will be copied there.
The reason is that I previously sync'd my other smartphone,
P1 on Symbian/UIQ with Outlook (to have all my contacts on X1)
but it made loose all "+" in all contacts lol.
So I manually put all "+" on X1 contacts and now want to just put it on Outlook too without a hassle....
Don't restore the PPCPimBackup contacts unless you have to. i.e lost contacts on X1 & Outlook.
I did a hard restart and it sync'd the contacts from Outlook like it should via ActiveSync. Then I restored a PPCPimBackup backup and ended up with two of every contact on the X1 and in Outlook. :/
I have had problems trying to sync my contacts with outlook from the very first day that i got my X1. I have not been able to do that on my PC but was able to do it using a friend's PC. Now iam in another country and need to backup my contacts and sync them on a new (third) PC. However when i use ActiveSync or Mobile Media to delete one of the existing PC relationships, the sync program says that this will delete all related data from that particular PC. In my case this means loosing all the contact information which ofcourse is what i want to keep and use sync for in the first place.
Since i have imported contacts on my X1 using my friend's PC, does that mean i will really loose all my contacts data on X1 if i delete that PC relationship?
If so then how do i delete an existing PC relationship and add a new one WITHOUT loosing the information/data i have on my X1?? I find it quite stupid and illogical that i am not able to import, sync and backup my contacts data on any number of PCs i want..... or is it that now Microsoft has rights over our own data usage as well?!?!?!
just use PIM 2.8 to backup the contacts. then delete the partnetship (and contacts) from activesync. then restore the contacts using PIM again
Recently I've used the recovery dvd to reset my PC. I also have to install Active Sync. Strangely enough I couldn't install the disk that HTC puts into the boxes where you buy your phones in. The program says that you must install flash 8.0 or higher with a link that link you up to Adobe's website. I already did install the latest flash player. I uninstall it, reset the computer, put in the disk, hit the link, install the flash player again, restart again. Still the same message. After that I downloaded ActiveSync 4.5 at the website of Microsoft. It works okay.
When I put a new contact in the phone it won't set the contact into Word Office Outlook 2003. Otherwise it works.
I've tried to delete the device into ActiveSync and loaded up in it again but that won't work unfortunately. Please help!
Is everything else you selected to sync sychronising properly? It's not just simply that you didn't select the options when you re-installed?
Does ActiveSync come up with any error messages? It could be that you need to delete partnerships and re-establish them - in my experience ActiveSync is a bit 'fussy' when uninstalled and re-installed.
Whatever, make sure you do full backup(s) before trying anything - I lost all my data one time when an engineer 'tried' to re-establish my ActiveSync partnership!
My pc was completly turned up side down so I used the recovery dvd and that deleted the whole C disk, also ActiveSync. I do had to download ActiveSync from the website because the disk wouldn't run. And yes I do change some options.
It can not synchronised some contacts that I install on my Topaz. Installing contacts in Outlook 2003 to the device works, otherwise not.
It gives the warning code 1.
Sorry, not sure what to suggest here.
If NOTHING from the phone is syncing with Outlook (i.e. no Appointments, Tasks or whatever) it sounds to me as though it could be a problem with the firewall - if you have one set up. Try disabling that and syncing.
If it's only Contacts that aren't syncing, but it works the other way, I'm at a loss.
Worth looking at the Microsoft Support pages - but ActiveSync often seems to have a mind of its own!
Sorry I can't help.
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If it's only Contacts that aren't syncing, but it works the other way, I'm at a loss.
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It does Sync tasks, appointments, etc. Just a couple of contacts strangely enough :S
...and it won't sync NEW Contacts at all? I've had the problem previously where existing Contacts didn't get changed - ActiveSync seemed to have got 'confused' as to which was the most up-to-date version and I had to go through entire Contacts list making small changes, waiting for them to be replicated, and if they were not then deleting that Contact on both devices and adding them back in.
That's simpler than it reads - but if you can't add NEW Contacts from the phone I'm not sure that's the problem.
Sorry.
Thnx for your input
ive tried to synce my gmail contacts all goes well with the setup then it wont even sync i keep hitting the synce button and NOTTA. so i said fuc* it and did it all manually. must be a microsoft thing.