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WM5: Out of storage memory, 100 meg program memory!

Can I change the balance between storage memory and program memory? I don't need all that for programs, but I need more for storage!

WM5 installas all programs to FLASH, it only run them in RAM, and you cannot install to RAM.
However: most programs that are not todat-plugins or stay resident, can run perfectly well from storage card (SD).
i run ALL programs from SD, except for these few that are resident..

Thanks, but it's the document storage I need. I have a few SD cards, but there is a lot of stuff I need to have no matter what SD card that's in the reader. Does that mean that I can't use that extra memory?

somebody was talking about the possibility for a RAM-drive - I would suggest you search for that article .. that would fix your problem.

AlCapone said:
somebody was talking about the possibility for a RAM-drive - I would suggest you search for that article .. that would fix your problem.
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that works, but is only a temperary solution, when you soft reset, you loose everything, i made the mistake of moving all my documents into the folder it created, and when i soft reset, i lost everything, some very very valuble pics i wanted to keep got lost.

Then that's not the solution. Gotta rethink this stuff...

Phone storage gets lost

Hi there!
I'm having a problem with the phone storage, not the internal 4gb storage...
The phone storage is at 0.20 mb (free!), but i don't really know why! On Saturday there were about 20 mb of free storage, but now they are gone ... I didn't install any programms, just looked a few videos with the youtube player and played around with some pictures that where sent as an email attachement (2 mb per picture) and suddenly the phone tells me "memory is low". i tried the sktools "clean" tool, but i'm not quite sure what i can delete without killing my pim data and so on. Is there anyway to figure out which application keeps all the information stored that killed my storage?!
I looked through the phone folders in the explorer on my pc, but i can't say
where the lost storage is located
any ideas on this !?
Thanks in advance
André

Maybe browser cache-data is filling it up? checked temp folders? 0,20MB sounds weird tho. What ROM are you using?

i searched all the tempfolders (hopefully i found them all ) but there aren't any large tempfiles or so ...
is there any specific folder you want me to have a closer look at?
i'm using the original o2 rom (1.37.207.2 GER)

Make a hard reboot and choose the 2nd option in the hard reboot menu

i'll give it a try the next few days and keep you informed
thnx!

before hard reset use sktools and do a complete clean

Why don't you see in your system settings menu, click memorry.
There you find a 'link' which gives you the option to search for big size files that fill up your memory.

too bad it doens't find many small files

Anyone knows how to change Notes SAVE PATH ??

Hi,
I already did my research on this topic using the search function provided.
However, I can't get anyone giving the correct solution.
So,
Did anyone here knows how to change Notes SAVE PATH ??
I tried to change the registry in :
(HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Notes) from \Internal Storage into \Internal Storage\Notes
HOWEVER,
everytime I saved the new registry, and DO a soft reset, it always revert back to the original condition, and sometimes, the registry value is "\Internal Storage\Notes" BUT when I save new notes, it was saved in the root of internal storage (as usual).
Please help me to find solution for this one
Thanks so much guys...

denis_sianto said:
Hi,
I already did my research on this topic using the search function provided.
However, I can't get anyone giving the correct solution.
So,
Did anyone here knows how to change Notes SAVE PATH ??
I tried to change the registry in :
(HKLM/Sotfware/Microsoft/Notes) from \Storage Card into \Storage Card\Notes
HOWEVER,
everytime I saved the new registry, and DO a soft reset, it always revert back to the original condition, and sometimes, the registry value is "\Storage Card\Notes" BUT when I save new notes, it was saved in the root of storage card (as usual).
Please help me to find solution for this one
Thanks so much guys...
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Maybe instead of storage card you need to change it to 'Internal Storage'....

simba2585 said:
Maybe instead of storage card you need to change it to 'Internal Storage'....
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i've tried but still notes save it to the root directory of internal storage ...
anyone could help... ?

registry..
notes\options\save to...internal storage.
works for me...

KukurikU said:
registry..
notes\options\save to...internal storage.
works for me...
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omg... ur the 2nd person on this thread... u didn't clearly read through the question did u ?

no one knows ?

denis_sianto said:
omg... ur the 2nd person on this thread... u didn't clearly read through the question did u ?
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omg....please accept my sincere appologies for my ignorance and for my feeble attempt to help in resolving such an important issue.
i solemnly promise to never, never jump and try to help without:
- reading the question (you so gracefully reedited after my answer) at least 5 times.
- searching the forum for similar problems.
- researching and learning all the wm manuals.
sarcasm aside, did you tried "my method"?
please note (pun intended) that even if i did not "get" yr question (but i did!), i certainly didn't deserve the slap. usually here we answer with a "thank you but this was not what i meant". try this next time...
and for the record, i do have all my notes in internal storage\notes as i said and with the simple method i described. no registry editing needed.
i also checked the registry and it is still showing "internal storage" and not "internal storage\notes". the path is not reflected in the registry and i do not have an explanation for this...
and here is the proof that i did understand yr question and that my simple, no registry editing, "just use the program settings" method works. look at the path and at first note....

sir... I'm sorry beforehand if I sound rude to you... and if it did, please know that I never meant to
Ok, back to the topic, I did actually tried your simple method, by going to 'Notes', and Options, Save to: 'Internal Storage'... but this eventually gets the 'Notes' to save its new files at the root directory of 'Internal Storage'.
How could you get that kind of setting to save your notes at 'Internal Storage\Notes' instead ?
Could you direct me and give me a guidance on how to direct newly saved notes files to 'Internal Storage\My Documents\Notes' ?
Once again, I would like to say thank you for your willingness to try solve this matter with me

When you're in notes theres a folder drop down list on the top left, you can add a notes folder there and it will put it in Internal Storage, I got mine in Internal Storage\Notes as well but can't get it working trying Internal Storage\My Documents\Notes

kien said:
When you're in notes theres a folder drop down list on the top left, you can add a notes folder there and it will put it in Internal Storage, I got mine in Internal Storage\Notes as well but can't get it working trying Internal Storage\My Documents\Notes
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glad i am not the only one....that's the way to do it, nothing to add.
maybe is not recognizing more than 2 levels..."Internal Storage\My Documents\Notes" is a 3 levels path.
to the OP: glad to help when i can!

FOR KIEN & KUKURIKU :
Thanks so much for the kind explanation you guys have given.
Eventhough I can't save notes in 3 level path, but at least Im happy enough to save in internal storage\notes.
Thank you guys

Ringtone/Notification & Sounds Questions

The G1 has a silence mode, but it unfortunately only silences ringers and notifications. If I want to play a game of Solitaire I am blasted in the face with stupidly loud music. Is there a system-wide switch to just disable ALL sound through the built in speaker?

Go to setting -> sounds & display -> media volume bring then it all the was down you should be able to map a. Shortcut to this with anycut.
Hope this helps

Ringtone/Notification Questions
Is there any way to put your own ringtones on the phone through a storage card like on the wing or other windows mobile phones, I just got the phone and am playing with it right now ad so far don't see no way to do this. If there's a way can someone please help.

I added 2 tones from my wing to the memory card from the G1. Placed them on the root of the card and then installed from the market "Rings Extended". Then selected them.

download the rings extended app. that will let you do what you want.

google market: rings extended
+1 rings extended.
I had a stale page load and the two previous posters beat me to it!
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also, fwiw, with 'rings extended' I found that the media listing was recursive as I had an entire directory structure from my wm6 phone. So, you can still have categorized directory structures if you like.

if you use the correct folder structure there will be no problems setting up the ringtones

gospeed.racer said:
if you use the correct folder structure there will be no problems setting up the ringtones
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there's a thread with that in it, I don't remember where.

If someone finds the thread for the correct folder structure please let me know, and neiltoe idk how to put it in the root folder market extended, I'm coming from a wing and I had a 2gb storage card for the wing so I took the card out my wing and put it in the g1 it sound like the way u do it neiltoe u have to keep the 1gb storage card.

hopefully this link works:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=438486

Alternatively you can just go to the music player, choose a song and press " use as ringtone".

First off, what helped me the most- connect the phone to a pc and enable the usb on the g1. When it pops up (it will look like a mass storage device on the pc) format it and then create these folders at the root of the storage card:
music
ringtones
alerts
notifications
Anything inside music will show up on the music player. Anything outside should not show up anywhere but where it is placed. If you do not format the card first, this will not be the case at least in my experience. Formatting seems to make it all work right.
The folder structure is taken from the tmobile website online instruction manual- cant remember the page

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Alternatively you can just go to the music player, choose a song and press " use as ringtone".
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While true, it also means you may have a bunch of ringtones and alerts mixed in with your music, something I dont like

for the record:
/sdcard/media/audio/ringones
etc
works as well, as does
/sdcard/media/video
for video files.

good to know about the alternative folder layouts
what are you using to play video files? I grabbed the "video player" on the market but curious to know what others are using.

Thanks a lot guys, you were very helpful.

ok i am totaly lost ok i have connected it to my pc formated the card to FAT quick format made the folders and still nothing can anyone help

davidsalinas said:
ok i am totaly lost ok i have connected it to my pc formated the card to FAT quick format made the folders and still nothing can anyone help
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put stuff into the folders. uncheck the USB box on the phone (you lose the PC connection at that point). Now your phone can find stuff.
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having trouble
ok so i need some help xda-ers!!!
i had the wing. i took my 2GB card and put it in the g1. i connected it to my pc running xp and changed the names of my folders to what was recommended. maybe i should have made new folders altogether is the issue? i can try that. anyway... it's not working... i go into settings to set ringtones and i cant set anything except the stock ones.
is the issue that i didnt make brand new folders and just changes the names?
or do i need to take everything off the card, reformat it, and start fresh?
thnx!

sh!mon said:
or do i need to take everything off the card, reformat it, and start fresh?
thnx!
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in my experience, this is exactly what you need to do. Format it on the pc while its in the phone using the data cable.

Main Memory Low

I save all my programs and install them on the internal drive. I am still getting a low memory warning. Are there any specific places I need to look , i.e Windows folder, etc.., where I can remove useless files? I'm afraid to delete some important things.
I have an Alltel Touch Diamond. Thanks in advance.

Low memory warning is not about the storage where you save your stuff & apps. Its the RAM of the diamond. To solve the issue you'll probably have to install another ROM with lower mem usage or close TF3D before running your heavy apps.

HI THERE
the program pocket mechanic solve me a lot of that issue .
after installing the prog. i removed some what of files to the intenal storage .
it did work for me just great /

windows folder/directory
open windows directory. goto Opera folder. goto images folder. any files that aren't jpg or png (meaning files that will have an opera logo in front of them) are deletable. If you use opera a lot and have never done this, there may be many. Also Windows/Messaging. this stores info from all emails, even when you delete, info is left here- delete all old stuff. If you feel iffy about trying any of this, create a folder in your internal storage to cut these files into, and if you have any trouble or do something wrong, you can cut/copy them right bsck (but these sre things i do to keep memory clear). Also, ClearTemp is an AWESOME HELPFUL program (and free). I think v1.21 is the latest, but after 3rd day of using it, it had recovered about 10mb of storage memory. (set it up properly, din't just hit 'clean'). good luck.
Lastly, some early diamonds (roms) had a known issue with unrecoverable storage memory, so last case scenario, update to newest official rom.

nickschot said:
Low memory warning is not about the storage where you save your stuff & apps. Its the RAM of the diamond. To solve the issue you'll probably have to install another ROM with lower mem usage or close TF3D before running your heavy apps.
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au contraire. memory on diamond is partitioned 3ways (storage memory, program memory, internal storage)
when you get a 'main memory low' msg, it's usually because your storage memory (not RAM), and not program memory, has dropped to <1mb. not your operating memory or program memory.

UgXvibe said:
I save all my programs and install them on the internal drive. I am still getting a low memory warning. Are there any specific places I need to look , i.e Windows folder, etc.., where I can remove useless files? I'm afraid to delete some important things.
I have an Alltel Touch Diamond. Thanks in advance.
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I dealt with this on my first diamond. Had to return it - it is an issue on early diamonds, known by htc (storage not erasing things it should, regardless of user settings). A search will turn up a handful of other threds on this topic.

Thanks for all the replies.. here are screens of what I'm talking about.
As you can see I have a ton of storage on the Internal but 1Mb left on Device... If you still agree that I should follow the advice above I will do that. Just wanted to clarify what I was talking about.

thank you scottspa74
I have exactly the same problem with storage memory and what scottspa74 proposed just gave me the solution to my problem .
Thank you very much

Well, I also found that if you have taken a lot of pictures and video with the phone it takes up a ton of device storage. Try deleting big video files or transferring them somewhere else.