Someone knows if its possible to make a program to run Iphone programs (like Ibeer en games for Iphone) on a Diamond ?
Like you have the emultor voor nintendo games...
Just get an Ipod Touch
Short answer: no.
Long answer: nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
More serious answer: software emulation of devices (e.g. the SNES or other consoles) is really only possible if the hardware you're running the emulator on is two or three generations further advanced than the device being emulated. As the iPhone is a current gen device, and indeed it's likely to be more powerful than the Diamond itself, your chances of emulating it are less than zero.
Medulla said:
it's likely to be more powerful than the Diamond itself.
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How do you figure this?
Surur
surur said:
How do you figure this?
Surur
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Search for a bechmark Diamond vs iPhone.
Diamond is better but dont have Graphics drivers, laggy sounds some times, WIN MOBILE, etc...
iPhone is like a Mac Mini, can run anything designed for Mac more faster than the same software for windows...
Driskol said:
Search for a bechmark Diamond vs iPhone.
Diamond is better but dont have Graphics drivers, laggy sounds some times, WIN MOBILE, etc...
iPhone is like a Mac Mini, can run anything designed for Mac more faster than the same software for windows...
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When it comes to emulation the important part is the hardware. The Diamond has more RAM and a faster processor. The graphics processor is obviously very important, but I think that is the only aspect that may be different.
When you run Parallels on a mac mini, does that mean your mac mini is more powerful than your gaming desktop?
Surur
surur said:
The Diamond has more RAM and a faster processor.
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What arguments do you have for this statement?
Diamond has very poor graphics performance ATM.
@lede do you want to emulate iphone games if we cannot emulate even sega/snes perfectly? Not to mention native (2D - DirectDraw?) games..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-F-8Saxseg
"Using the same game - DragonBall (on the Touch Pro I have to use SPHelper to start the game as it was designed for touchscreen - PocketPCs).
Left - HTC Touch Pro, Qualcomm MSM7201A @ 528Mhz
Right - HTC Tornado, TI OMAP 850 @ 180Mhz!!"
Videos & more info:
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=1806#comments
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=449391
Medulla said:
Short answer: no.
Long answer: nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
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spot on ahaha
heard some people say that iphone some gpu thingy
but apart from that there is a lot of overhead in emulating
which is why the person before said 2 or 3generation was required
and it would not be likely to cheat itunes to get to itune store
so it would be jail breake stuff too
Rudegar said:
heard some people say that iphone some gpu thingy
but apart from that there is a lot of overhead in emulating
which is why the person before said 2 or 3generation was required
and it would not be likely to cheat itunes to get to itune store
so it would be jail breake stuff too
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People are confusing emulating chips with emulating the environment. The reason why you need 3 generations to emulate hardware is because hardware is a lot faster than software.
Both the iPhone and the Touch run on ARM processors, making running the iPhone environment on Windows Mobile possible, just like running Parallels on the mac, or WINE on Linux.
Surur
Anyone has a Windows XP Emulator for the HTC Touch Diamond :O?
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Which software to use?
In my humble opinion: None......for the Qualcomm there is no software availalble to overclock it....but in time it will come...
try this out guys. application specific.
All this seems to be doing is to change the priority of the threads running certain applications. It does not overclock the CPU like OMAP did.
anyway does this work?
or its like the sktools optimization?
Any progress out there on a safe program to overclock a Kaiser? WM6 is definitely faster than WM5, but alot slower than my old Palm OS Treos.
thanks,
d
I'm also waiting for a piece of software that will allow me to overclock my Kaiser, but still there is no progress at all. As they say - patience is gods' virtue (-:
has anyone tried htc performance?
I believe I read helmi had a hand in creating it???I know this has been used on a few different devices and is very low on batti draw but no one quite knows how it works.Really makes a difference on my device but Im not sure if it would be safe to use or even work with the proccessor on the kaiser.
With the battery life as borderline as it is with the Tilt/Kaiser, I'd shy away from overclocking. You'll get lightening fast speed for the 5 minutes of battery life
ya but...
ya but... with the video drivers we're missing and an overclocker the phone would be lightning quick.Also I was reading that the reality is with the right programmers the next gen phones kaiser , dream and a few others a playstation 2 emulator on the ppc would be possible. imagine being on a plane cut off 3g and phone functions and play ps2 games on your phone. plus with extended and/or extra batteries that are now becoming available...
I do not see the logic. The Kaiser is so fast and has so much memory, why would you risk bricking or prematurely damaging your phone? Just my opinion
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I do not see the logic. The Kaiser is so fast and has so much memory, why would you risk bricking or prematurely damaging your phone? Just my opinion
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Glad to learn that my Kaiser is so fast ! I guess you don't use games or heavy graphical applications, because then you would see that the Kaiser is not faster than an HTC Prophet wich is overclocked at only 240 Mhz ! (380 Mhz for the Kaiser...). Also if you want to play VGA videos, the speed is not good enough (wich it should be if you look at the Qualcomm processors capabilities, but as everyone know here, HTC did'nt make the drivers for that).
I am very disapointed by the fact the Kaiser is not a VGA device, but even more disapointed when you see that it is not even faster than a VGA device !!! So at this low speed, where is the interest of having a QVGA screen compared to VGA ?
Definitly, an overclocker tool may help me to consider keeping my Kaiser (even if I think that at this device price, it's a shame to be obliged to overclock it to have a decent speed ...).
The prophet is slower in my opinion, I don't own a Kaiser, but whenever i use it everything happens faster than on my overclocked WM6 Prophet (overclocked to 286MHz normally).
How does the speed compare to the TyTN, mine should be here on Wednesday... I can't wait!
someone found a tool that really works ?
WOW! and I thought we had enough problem threads on here with overheat and battery deaths!
Look out for many more!!
I upgraded to kaiser from a Tmob Wing, for that I played with an overclocker called Fl0wt. Which did seem to work BUT the battery becames a flamethrower of heat and the battery life was sucked away in no time. this wasnt a big clock speed step either. The parts just arnt suited for the additional heat it seems. plus it felt dangerously hot...like "hit the dirt its going to blow" hot. not worth the risk in my oppinion...but hey thats just me
Can you post a link to "Fl0wt" ive searched far and wide and found nothing. Please post a link.
Cheers !
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Glad to learn that my Kaiser is so fast ! I guess you don't use games or heavy graphical applications, because then you would see that the Kaiser is not faster than an HTC Prophet wich is overclocked at only 240 Mhz ! (380 Mhz for the Kaiser...). Also if you want to play VGA videos, the speed is not good enough (wich it should be if you look at the Qualcomm processors capabilities, but as everyone know here, HTC did'nt make the drivers for that).
I am very disapointed by the fact the Kaiser is not a VGA device, but even more disapointed when you see that it is not even faster than a VGA device !!! So at this low speed, where is the interest of having a QVGA screen compared to VGA ?
Definitly, an overclocker tool may help me to consider keeping my Kaiser (even if I think that at this device price, it's a shame to be obliged to overclock it to have a decent speed ...).
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I beg to differ.
I play LOTS n LOTS of games on my TyTN II AND I watch full feature movies and I use Outlook AND I use GPS AND I use internet (Netfront v3.5) and I have yet to find a speed problem as mentioned in this here cheese and whine forum.
Some of the games I have on my TyTN II are:
Cybersaurus
Warfare Inc
Machines at War
Bejeweled 2
Zuma
Ackys XP Breakout
Shattered Worlds
Call of Duty 2
Darxide EMP
gfDoom
Fast Future Race
G-Prime Extreme
Interstellar Flames
Skyforce Reloaded
Quake & Quake 2
Sinbad Return of the Legends
Flux Challenge
Is this a good enough sample for you?
THE KAISER NEVER CLAIMED TO BE A VGA DEVICE. IT IS STRICTLY QVGA....NOW GET OVER IT!!!
I am starting to believe that AT&T roms are fraught with problems.
I don't have that problem here in SA.
My TyTN 2 is MUCH faster than my iMate KJam....MUCH MUCH FASTER!!!
So I don't know what you are referring to.
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I beg to differ.
I play LOTS n LOTS of games on my TyTN II AND I watch full feature movies and I use Outlook AND I use GPS AND I use internet (Netfront v3.5) and I have yet to find a speed problem as mentioned in this here cheese and whine forum.
Some of the games I have on my TyTN II are:
Call of Duty 2
Is this a good enough sample for you?
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I have Call of Duty 2 too, and it's really slow on the Kaiser compared to other devices. You should see how it runs on other PPC's...
MACkjam said:
I am starting to believe that AT&T roms are fraught with problems.
I don't have that problem here in SA.
My TyTN 2 is MUCH faster than my iMate KJam....MUCH MUCH FASTER!!!
So I don't know what you are referring to.
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I have an T-mobile Kaiser and it's definitely not much faster than a Magician. The difference is really, really small.
And we're referring to the fact that there are no drivers for the ATI Imageon hardware. Thanks to this, everything needs to be rendered by the CPU.
Hi,
Has anyone else experienced poor/jerky gameplay with kaiser?
Seems to run fine for everything else but has trouble with the following games:
VT Pocket Tennis (old i know).
Pool Rebel
Seems slightly sluggish (although acceptable) with some of the other games in comparison to my tytn.
Can anyone make any suggestions for tweaks/tests?
Thanks
aqm5181 said:
Hi,
Has anyone else experienced poor/jerky gameplay with kaiser?
Seems to run fine for everything else but has trouble with the following games:
VT Pocket Tennis (old i know).
Pool Rebel
Seems slightly sluggish (although acceptable) with some of the other games in comparison to my tytn.
Can anyone make any suggestions for tweaks/tests?
Thanks
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if they are old games that could be the reason why, it doesn have support for GDI i think it is. have you tryed any emulators? GBA for example?
www.sunbug.net
Thanks for the speedy reply!
Pool Rebel is a new release but is still very sluggish. I have contacted their support team as it may just be that the game is not optimised for the cpu.
VT pocket tennis was designed for PPC2002! Used to work very well on my TYTN but is virtually unplayable on TYTN II.
Will I be able to use the emulator on games designed for PPC?
I'm not sure what is the problem, but I can comfirm that the graphic chipset integrated in MSM7200 is one of ATI Imageon product.
http://brew.qualcomm.com/bnry_brew/pdf/brew_2007/Tech-303_Ligon.pdf
http://www.cdmatech.com/download_library/pdf/3dgaming_brochure.pdf
from the data sheet, the performance should be said as good, so perhaps the new graphic chipset is not supported?
Maybe HTC has disabled most of the Video chipset functionality, they have a habit of disabling everything before launch! *Shakes fist*
It does also look like the graphic chipset has 3d hardware support but so far you cant take adventage of it with direct3d because it only has referance drivers which doesnt use any of the hardware. But once HTC releases drivers that take advantage of this hardware it should be one kick butt gaming device...
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It does also look like the graphic chipset has 3d hardware support but so far you cant take adventage of it with direct3d because it only has referance drivers which doesnt use any of the hardware. But once HTC releases drivers that take advantage of this hardware it should be one kick butt gaming device...
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Just imagine the Touchflo cube interface with D3D. Mmm.
wow, page 5, what game is that???
http://www.cdmatech.com/download_library/pdf/3dgaming_brochure.pdf
looks so cool for a ppc game!
I just got my kaiser, upgraded from a 200 mhz prophet, big difference everywhere except gaming. I have pocketSNES a Super nintendo emulator, and it runs OK, but when you play with sound it lags quite a bit. I thought this device was suppposed to have pretty good graphics??
Some benchmarks
TyTn 2 graphic is slower than HTC Mogul
http://mymobile911.com/dnn2/bBenchmarkDatab/tabid/60/Default.aspx
TyTn 2 graphic is the fastest
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=442869&sid=2ddc04dc6332d94bdbb0a5dc00627b54
ksjulsen said:
I just got my kaiser, upgraded from a 200 mhz prophet, big difference everywhere except gaming. I have pocketSNES a Super nintendo emulator, and it runs OK, but when you play with sound it lags quite a bit. I thought this device was suppposed to have pretty good graphics??
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this is not because it has poor graphics or has trouble playing it, it's cause PocketSnes hasnt been updated in such a long time it doesnt even support the phone completely or support teh GFX driver. however, have you tried Morphgear?
http://soft.softoogle.com/ap/morphgear-download-5321.shtml
Yeah, I tried pool rebel too ... and damn, it is so slow
Any reply from their support?
Btw, any good game for this Kaiser? The one that is nice and fast.
Support have replied. They will be adding Direct X support for the game in future release although have not specified when. That should hopefully improve performance. I have tried the following games and they work well:
Flux Challenge
Sky Force
Sky Force Reloaded
Resco Guardians
Anthelion 2
Argentum
Explode Arena
KRally
Snails
SPB AirIslands
Stolen In 60 Seconds
Cheers
I never thought id see the day, but it seems that developers are now favoring the iphone. The app store is growing considerably and less efforts are made for windows mobile. Let us take Shaznam, sky by mobile, facebook, myspace, ebay etc - all have fast dedicated iphone apps that take advantage of its display, yet the diamond for example has a higher resolution sreen, but (in the case of facebook) is left with terrible alternatives (such as faceimobiliser). Developers are embrasing iphone and leaving windows mobile behind. This depresses me and makes the future of windows mobile uncertain.
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Apple and VC's have put a lot of funding into iphone apps development. Then when an app has been created the developer can sell it from the app store, a place with many eyes peering.
I'm not aware of any funding or app store equivelant for windows mobile. Which is a shame.
As a developer myself I can see the appeal for developing for the iphone.
don't you worry. as long xda-dev is here....
i think the reason is the growing number of iPhone users and the potential market for iP software. as for the quality of the software....they'll have to work hard for years to get where we, the wm users are.
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I agree, but what has this to do with the diamond, is the general chat not a better forum for this topic...
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I agree, but what has this to do with the diamond, is the general chat not a better forum for this topic...
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I'll tell you why. Because the Diamond is the most fully fledged windows mobile device that is comparable to the iphone. The iphone gets brilliant apps such as facebook, myspace and more yet the diamond, while able to run apps of this quality, is left out. Yes the facebook app vexes me most, its so freaking awesome on the iphone, I would love to have facebook alerts on my diamond while being able to view pictures full screen on that gorgeous vga screen. The technology of the diamond is being wasted...
Unfortunately, I must concur with you there. It looks to me that WM is facing a dead end, because of performance issues and speed. Using Internet is still an issue and there are a lot of instances when some apps are crashing when installed on such device. Yahoo! Go for example is one of them. MS needs to spend more time and money on teir OS or face the extinction. It's a shame that Diamond looks second rate to iPhone, because of OS problems.
There are MANY iphones in the world, yet in comparison there are VERY FEW Diamonds (or WM phones with VGA screens).
WM7 is the future though.
With Apple's iPhone hype, lots of attention has been drawn to that platform. Many developers want to get on that hype to get some attention right now. However, as the hype passes, I think only real quality programs on the iPhone will have a future, just as only real quality programs are being developed for WM right now.
I think it might not be the Apple platform we should be very affraid for, but possibly the upcoming Android platform, which might get the best of both worlds.
What ever, I would rather die than getting a fruityphone.
fruitphone SUCKS
Remember second best they are!!!!!!!!!!
Im sorry im gonna do this on every fruityphone thread, I just despise the damm fruit.
ok heres the deal
ok so there are 2 reasons that not as many developers are making stuff for win mo as we would like (im a developer by the way) so..
the first reason is that there is no uniformity between windows mobile phones and pocket pcs for instance i have a diamond with:
530mhz cpu
16mb graphics card that developers cant use
192mb of memory (64 of which is not available to use)
a g-sensor
640 by 480 screen
gps hardware
touch scrollwheel and lightsensor with 2 cams
one of my friends got a phone a few weeks ago just before the diamond came out a tytn II (kasier) now its a great phone still but it only has:
400mhz cpu
128mb of memory
320 by 240 screen
gps hardware
lightsensor with 2 cams
now as a dev what do i do?
do i make a great game for the diamond?
do i spend more time and let the project quality suffer by making sure it runs on at least 100 differnt winmo phones?
do i make a game that runs at only 320 by 240 and dosnt use anything new and just hope that all phones from now on can run it?
that is the one thing that the iphone has over us (it may be a very mediocre phone and a crappy gaming/entertainment device but they are all the same) and until this has been rectified we will keep loseing devs to the iphone
BUT something big is going to be happening when windows mobile 7 comes out early next year things will change windows mobile 7 imposes some hardware restrictions to hardware makers these being:
640 by 480 screen rez as a minimum (that must support touch)
16mb graphics hardware that must have fully unlocked drivers for devs
256mb ram as a minimum
512mb rom minimum
tilt sensor is optional but must be compatible with windows mobile 7s tilt api
gps is optional but must be compatible with windows mobile 7s gps api
(gps and tilt are not required but if it has one it must be compatibal with winmo7 by doing this it means that any game that uses a tilt sensor will be able to work on any device with one)
and the biggest one is it must have as a minimum a 600mhz arm11 cpu
all these things will change the way devs make apps and games for winmobile it means that anything made for any winmo7 phone will run on any other winmo7 phone at the same min speed and other than that it will be like a pc game may have low mid and high settings incase you have a 32mb graphics card but they also know that you will have to have a 16mb card at the min
nvidias Tegra is going to be an all in one chip with a 600 or 800mhz arm 11 cpu a 16mb gfx card and image and video decoders all biult in anything that uses this will be fully winmo7 compliant
end rant lol and for anyone that actually bothers to read all of this good job
bump for discussion..
will win mobile 7 be available to usage on the diamond as well ? i'm curious about this and i haven't found any info on this.
on-topic: it's funny how i chose the diamond over the iPhone. my decision relied mostly on the customization abilities of this phone and here i was not thinking of windows mobile since this is my first pocket pc. i was astonished by the sheer posibilities you can find inside such a phone and all available no thanks to the curtesy of the producers but of users like you and me and all the others. i think that as long as we'll be around, so will the developers, because even i could be one if i wanted too, especially cause i just bought a winmobile device that i'm happy with. so it's all about will.
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I never thought id see the day, but it seems that developers are now favoring the iphone. The app store is growing considerably and less efforts are made for windows mobile. Let us take Shaznam, sky by mobile, facebook, myspace, ebay etc - all have fast dedicated iphone apps that take advantage of its display, yet the diamond for example has a higher resolution sreen, but (in the case of facebook) is left with terrible alternatives (such as faceimobiliser). Developers are embrasing iphone and leaving windows mobile behind. This depresses me and makes the future of windows mobile uncertain.
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Kid, you already made a thread about this same topic, stop being a little girl and let it go. It's old, it's played, it's done.
hi i just seen the iphone/ipod touch apps and games, but comparing to our windows mobile apps and games iphone/itouch has wide selection and not also that, its much well detailed on the version comparing to WinMo
are there any no good developers to port this on WinMo? we win on the UI and customable home menu (UI sense) but in the entertainment section we failed
just for an example: EA games, the NFS undercover on iphone is much richer on both graphics and gameplay compare to WinMo version its just like a java version in a CAB file... but we all know WinMo has greater RAM and grafix (HTC HD had) i think WinMo lacks the developer
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its true,
but with the comming of snapdragon and tegra devices, the developers will soon follow.
(and hopefully PSP, DS and iPhone emulators :-D )
I think it's because iPhone must use its own apps and games. And other wm phones have more choices on apps. So they have to do these apps and games much better than those to attract the users to choose iPhone.
Do you want more games for WinMo , $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ dig deep.
Steve Jobs is not a billionaire because the iPhone has such a wide variety of apps and games that can be easily downloaded from XDA.
Anyway I read somewhere that WinMo is 3y behind iphone.
But catching up fast!!
rafalinx said:
Anyway I read somewhere that WinMo is 3y behind iphone.
But catching up fast!!
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Where did you read that? Macworld magazine.
Hey how come there are so many more games for my PS3 and the games are so much better than on my PC ...? Come on PC catch up...... my PC is at least 3 years behind my PS 3...
Yeah I've got so many great games and apps. Just purchased Bladesof Fury, which is basically a remake of Soul Calibur. Also a game called Gangstar which is like GTA. Gameloft make both, but all the games that have are great.
the iphone also has great hardware acceleration versus the windows phones, so games won't catch up until a significant hardware change accompanies a new mobile operating system.
the iphone was built from the ground up after seeing how everyone else did it for years. sure, MS could redesign everything to catch up, if not surpass the iphone, but what then? all the software that has been developed for resistive screens fall to the wayside and a HUGE user base is left behind.
i love windows, and couldn't even give android more than a day, but i easily accepts the facts that the iphone is one f'ing slick phone, but its the fanboy base that absolutely make me hate anything that is apple related. our OS isn't as smooth, never ever as pretty, and is definitely not as user friendly, so just take pride in the fact that it is a power-users phone and not well-built for the general masses.
thank you let me have a try
lol, wonna games - bye psp
rafalinx said:
Anyway I read somewhere that WinMo is 3y behind iphone.
But catching up fast!!
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Well... in terms of support for standards, no, but yeah, WinMo is old just like PalmOS was 2 or 3 years ago. That former died from not evolving for real, and I fear this is what awaits WinMo as soon as a capable mobile OS hits the shelves.
Ha! Because it is really "cool" to have half the screen obscured by your fingers or tilting your head with the phone... Pfffffff. Even a three year old can understand that you can't really play games without a hardware keyboard/d-pad. I can play touchscreen, accelerometer, hardware and d-pad games on WinMo phones, how many of those can iTards play? WinMo has thousands of games that can be played on many different devices, not on variations of the same one...
I have 100+ WinMo games on my Xperia, 70 java games, MorphGear with thousand of games (which lets me play every old console game out there) and a palm emulator. iPhail sucks big time in general, but it sucks even more when it comes to gaming.
Three years behind? HAHAHAHAHAAH!!! The iCrap is a decade behind...
Steve Job$ can GTFO with his "iPod Touch is the gretest portable gaming machine" - oh yeah? Have you heard of the PSP n00b... lmao. "Ohhhh looky looky we got copy, paste and CUT on the iPhone" - WOW can you imagine that? They have "cut" on their phones in 2009! Pathetic, overhyped devices with outdated hardware and software...
well i would prefer iphone games since i think theyre the best games ive ever played on mobile phones
AndroidFiend said:
well i would prefer iphone games since i think theyre the best games ive ever played on mobile phones
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That would be true if iPhail was the only device in the Universe. I can play Starcraft, Diablo and Age of Empires among hundreds of others. Wich one of those can the iPhail play again?
no games???? wth... try finalburn for wince and you got lots ang lots of arcade games to play...
iPhone has graphics.
orelsi said:
That would be true if iPhail was the only device in the Universe. I can play Starcraft, Diablo and Age of Empires among hundreds of others. Wich one of those can the iPhail play again?
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Windows Mobile does have some fantastic games, but the developers really don't give the damn about graphics. I'm far from an Apple fanboy - quite the opposite - but I do find it sad that while WinMos are capable of graphics as smooth as the iPhone's games (Binoteq / Astraware's MLT shows this), nearly every developer out there does not utilize the full potential of WinMo.
And many of the "official ports" to WinMo also have poor graphics - I prefer Arlanthir's "Touch The Music" to the official "Guitar Hero" game.
games
Check here there some fun game demos and games
www.krenisiswinmobilegamesapps.com
I used to own a HTC Touch HD2 a PSP and a DSlite....sold the lot and bought an Iphone 3gs, the games are in my opinion better than the PSP and DS, kind of a mix of the both, graphically not as good as the PSP, but better than the DS, controls not as good as the DS but better than the PSP, the accelerometer controls on the Iphone are the best on any device, my HTC just could not handle Need for speed, now I have the device that does it all, for me anyway.
clones
There are some clones of iphone games made for windows mobie like doodle jump and canabalt. Go here and check them out, they pretty simple but fun.
www.krenisiswinmobilegamesapps.com
cheap
Look most windows mobile users are alergic to buying games . You cant expect perfect smooth OpenGLS games for free. Windows mobile users think 99 cents is too much for a game. Most windows mobile users dont care about developers or what it takes to make games. They want perfection but dont want to pay a dime. Thats why iphone wins.
As we can know, our phones have 8 cores, all Cortex 53, 64 bit.
Can someone make a program, to somehow make the phones cpu (or gpu/ram) to assist the PC through USB (wifi would be too slow..) Even if these 8 cores would work as one real cpu core, that would be nice I'm not the one who would use it + i can even pay if it's needed 5eu :d
Ideea seems to be easy, but in reality... I guess it is hard, cuz it need time for the information to go through usb-phone, to convert, to send it back etc... I read that it wasn't posibble some years ago, but now that we have ALL the same cpu (8 cortex 53 not 4a and 4b cores), + 64 bit
Usb port would be issue
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Usb port would be issue
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What would be the issue? Connection, i guess adb is good, too slow? Ahh
This is a joke, right?
BrainNotFound said:
This is a joke, right?
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Ya it is, BrainNotFound
You know that a single core of your pc is like 10x more powerful than all of those 8 cores right. Plus, sharing the core's tasks through USB wouldn't be feasiable.
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You know that a single core of your pc is like 10x more powerful than all of those 8 cores right. Plus, sharing the core's tasks through USB wouldn't be feasiable.
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What? 10x slower? But in some benchmarks it's actually really good, i believed that these 8 cores are at least as good as 1 cpu core... I mean secondary tasks, like ts/skype or something... Not main apps, like Photoshop or games
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What? 10x slower? But in some benchmarks it's actually really good, i believed that these 8 cores are at least as good as 1 cpu core... I mean secondary tasks, like ts/skype or something... Not main apps, like Photoshop or games
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For that, you can easily install those apps on your phone.
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For that, you can easily install those apps on your phone.
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Right, but i can't ue some features + i need 2 headphones... One pc(hearing what i want) and one communicating
D1stRU3T0R said:
Right, but i can't ue some features + i need 2 headphones... One pc(hearing what i want) and one communicating
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Just install them on your pc? Teamspeak's performance impact isn't noticeable, nor would a phone help it in any way, especially a low end phone like this one...
myclarity said:
Just install them on your pc? Teamspeak's performance impact isn't noticeable, nor would a phone help it in any way, especially a low end phone like this one...
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It was just an example...
I'm kind of amazed nobody's pointed out that this is not and could not be possible.
The CPUs in our phones are what is called ARM technology [which is, in short, a less powerful and portable type of processor chipset]
Your desktop, I would assume, uses x86 or amd64 (a.k.a x86_64) technology which has a completely different instruction set.
Essentially, the application in question, would have to be specially modified to run on an ARM chipset - but you might as well upgrade your PC.
Not only that, the apps you mentioned (TeamSpeak [and Skype?]) already have mobile versions anyway; so could you not just download an app and use it on your phone?
Finally, (if you run Windows), you might want to open Task Manager and check what's maxing out and upgrade that component, because I bet it's probably your RAM and not the CPU anyway...
gbmasterdoctor said:
I'm kind of amazed nobody's pointed out that this is not and could not be possible.
The CPUs in our phones are what is called ARM technology [which is, in short, a less powerful and portable type of processor chipset]
Your desktop, I would assume, uses x86 or amd64 (a.k.a x86_64) technology which has a completely different instruction set.
Essentially, the application in question, would have to be specially modified to run on an ARM chipset - but you might as well upgrade your PC.
Not only that, the apps you mentioned (TeamSpeak [and Skype?]) already have mobile versions anyway; so could you not just download an app and use it on your phone?
Finally, (if you run Windows), you might want to open Task Manager and check what's maxing out and upgrade that component, because I bet it's probably your RAM and not the CPU anyway...
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Hi, i knowed all of this, but I didn't know that ARM can't process x86_x64 apps. My PC us giid enough, it's never running 100 ram or cpu, but still, little help won't be bad.