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For ALL PEOPLE HOT FIX BLUETOOTH BY HTC

Hello,
HTC have publied a HOT FIX FOR BLUETOOH
"/12/2007
Bluetooth Hot Fix (for HTC TyTN II)
Dropped calls sometimes occur when Bluetooth is on. If you encountered the same problem, please download this Bluetooth Hot Fix and install it on your device.
Go to htc club an enjoy.

Downloaded it from HTc.cOM
Installation instructions
Follow the instructions below to download and install the hot fix on your device:
Make sure you have Microsoft ActiveSync® installed on your Windows XP PC or Windows Mobile Device Center on your Windows Vista® PC. You can find Microsoft ActiveSync from this link or Windows Mobile Device Center from this link.
Connect and synchronize your device with your PC via Microsoft ActiveSync® or Windows Mobile Device Center using the USB cable.
To download thehot fix, first select the check box below. Next, select thehot fix and the desired FTP site then click Download.
Copy the hot fix, which is a cab file, to your device.
To install the hot fix, tap the cab file and follow the on-screen instructions.
Here is the file:
http://rapidshare.com/files/77588898/TyTNII_BT_Hotfix.zip
Enjoy,
Nadavi

for tytnII, but how about att tilt? is it rom specific?

Hope this will work. Thanks for the tip.

private69 said:
Hello,
HTC have publied a HOT FIX FOR BLUETOOH
"/12/2007
Bluetooth Hot Fix (for HTC TyTN II)
Dropped calls sometimes occur when Bluetooth is on. If you encountered the same problem, please download this Bluetooth Hot Fix and install it on your device.
Go to htc club an enjoy.
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This does not show up on the updates for my TyTynII (downloads are serial number specific) only in the generic downloads.
I think its best if you only apply this IF you suffer with any Bluetooth problem.
The old adage, 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it!'

Re: does this work on AT&T Tilt?
In the HTC 1.56 ROM, this file is a replacement for \Windows\TIInit_4_2_38.bts a.k.a. (OEM\OEMDrivers\TIInit_4_2_38.bts for chefs). There is nothing else in that cab (see upgrading forums thread for better description)
Edit: I was wondering if I kept quiet, how many people would have experienced a placebo effect and said that it works great and makes bluetooth 10x better on AT&T...
Summary
If you happen to be an AT&T Tilt user that has flashed to an HTC ROM, this fix will work for you. If you're running an AT&T ROM, or you have no idea what a ROM is, but you know your phone says AT&T on it, it does nothing.

Does this fix the issue were bluetooth is dropped after finishing a call ?

Thanks for letting us ATT users know that it doesn't do anything. Guess we don't have this issue But on a serious note does this actually fix anything besides a supposed call dropping? I don't have that issue but of course we all have tons of issues with BT quality.

I have install the update listed above on a Tilt running the RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship Rom and the Bluetooth quality has jumped 100%. My Bluetooth stereo headphones sound great.
Thanks for starting this thread.

Awesome, thanks! I was going to ask if anyone had drop call problems as it happened to me twice last night and I happened to have my BT headset on

sirooga said:
Thanks for letting us ATT users know that it doesn't do anything. Guess we don't have this issue But on a serious note does this actually fix anything besides a supposed call dropping? I don't have that issue but of course we all have tons of issues with BT quality.
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I have a lot of crackling background on my BT headset. Did not have that on the 8525. Also, there seems to be less functionality supported in the Tilt implementations, regarding the BT, vs the 8525 (I was running a cooked ROM though on my 8525). What i mean by that, is that I was able to use the BT buton to activate the voice dial using the MS VM. In addition, hitting the BT button twice was getting me a redial. Not anymore. I wonder is this has to do with the AT&T ROM or not? Is this a genuine HTC issue?

kaluzu said:
I have a lot of crackling background on my BT headset. Did not have that on the 8525. Also, there seems to be less functionality supported in the Tilt implementations, regarding the BT, vs the 8525 (I was running a cooked ROM though on my 8525). What i mean by that, is that I was able to use the BT buton to activate the voice dial using the MS VM. In addition, hitting the BT button twice was getting me a redial. Not anymore. I wonder is this has to do with the AT&T ROM or not? Is this a genuine HTC issue?
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Before I switched to Dutty's ROMs, I was running the stock Tilt Rom for a few days, and then the newer Tilt ROM for a week. Both of those AT&T Tilt Stock roms gave me no issues like you mentioned. I heavily use my BT headset (Jawbone), and use Microsoft Voice Command (I very seldom use the dialer as its easier to just speak and have the phone dial for me). Pressing once on my headset would always bring up MS VC so I could issue it commands, and pressing twice on my headset always did a redial.
Now that I'm on Dutty's 7b, I have the same behaviors there too. Not sure what to tell you (other than some BT headsets don't work well with WM6, but if you were using the same headset on your 8525 then thats probably not the case).
As always... YMMV

_Alex_ said:
This file does not exist in the AT&T Tilt ROM, so it's doubtful it will harm or help to install this.
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I checked the AT&T's 1.60.502.3 rom and it does exist. I didn't check the stock AT&T rom so I don't know if it wasn't there. I did a file comparison with ExamDiff between HTC's fix (22,490 bytes), AT&T's 1.60.502.3 version (22,490 bytes) and HTC's 1.56.405.5 version (23,899 bytes). It appears AT&T's newest rom already has the fix so anyone using the following roms should not have to apply the fix:
AT&T stock 1.60.502.3
Kyphur's XDA Live
Dutty's AT&T Variants
Custel's Series
_Alex_'s 1.60
any of DK's roms (shameless plug)

Is rapidshare the only place to get this? I am behind a firewall.

jgermuga said:
Is rapidshare the only place to get this? I am behind a firewall.
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Cab fix attached.

akadonny said:
I checked the AT&T's 1.60.502.3 rom and it does exist. I didn't check the stock AT&T rom so I don't know if it wasn't there. I did a file comparison with ExamDiff between HTC's fix (22,490 bytes), AT&T's 1.60.502.3 version (22,490 bytes) and HTC's 1.56.405.5 version (23,899 bytes). It appears AT&T's newest rom already has the fix so anyone using the following roms should not have to apply the fix:
AT&T stock 1.60.502.3
Kyphur's XDA Live
Dutty's AT&T Variants
Custel's Series
_Alex_'s 1.60
any of DK's roms (shameless plug)
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Just realized this while doing some diffs and was going to repost. (Microsoft file find sux ) Original post edited...

mfrazzz said:
Before I switched to Dutty's ROMs, I was running the stock Tilt Rom for a few days, and then the newer Tilt ROM for a week. Both of those AT&T Tilt Stock roms gave me no issues like you mentioned. I heavily use my BT headset (Jawbone), and use Microsoft Voice Command (I very seldom use the dialer as its easier to just speak and have the phone dial for me). Pressing once on my headset would always bring up MS VC so I could issue it commands, and pressing twice on my headset always did a redial.
Now that I'm on Dutty's 7b, I have the same behaviors there too. Not sure what to tell you (other than some BT headsets don't work well with WM6, but if you were using the same headset on your 8525 then thats probably not the case).
As always... YMMV
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Give this a read. I have MS VC 1.6 working just fine on my Jabra BT250 after following the instructions.
you can ignore the first part about removeing the cybertron dialer or whatever.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=998205&postcount=9

I'll try it. Thx for the tip. I am not sure if this only works for 8525/TyTn (I do have the TyTn II/Kaiser)
Edit:
Tried. Sorry, did not work. Oh well. will see, but for now I wil stick with the AT&T ROM.

Hi,
there is something weird about that fix:
when the cab is on the kaiser, you tap on the file to install it.
you believe it's installed but in program files , you may find
a "kai6492_hotfix" shortcut, you tap on it and the choices are install or exit
it's seems there an identity check to be sure it's on a kaiser
"module id is kais(required kais)"
then if "equal" "ok" then install
and soft reset needed
why two install required ?
the kai6492_hotfix is still in program files after that
and last VC1.6 was working on my bt headset(but the voice recognition succeded about only 10%,i think because of audio quality when i am speaking) but i could ear vc1.6 replies ou questions)
now it is not working anymore.
when i click on the button(headset) before it was launching voice command as the harware button (assigned to it) could do it
now the same button launches the phone dialer(as i was tapping on "call"(green phone)).
ps; since that hotfix, i haven't been able, any more, to install btIO-0.6-wm5 cab

Deleted cause not worth it....

Sync Install and Uninstall problems

Happy New year to everybody...
Mine has started off bad, I just returned from my X-mas/New year break and I can no longer sync, install or uninstall programs ?
when I connect my PDA to the PC it sees it, but it can't sync, if I go to remove/add programs it shows empty nothing installed.
I can even brows the PDA but I can't copy files to or from it?
I'm lost, can anyone help me out on this I really don't want to do a hard reset.
Thanks.

Anyone.........?

tryed to reinstall active-sync?
did you installed some program has to do with network (kind of ftp-server or something else that uses some ports in you network-config)
i had the problem with filezilla ftp-server, using port 990 for ssl-authentification.
the problem was, active-sync also uses this port, but filezilla starting as service was bound to this, so AS could not work.

edi said:
tryed to reinstall active-sync?
did you installed some program has to do with network (kind of ftp-server or something else that uses some ports in you network-config)
i had the problem with filezilla ftp-server, using port 990 for ssl-authentification.
the problem was, active-sync also uses this port, but filezilla starting as service was bound to this, so AS could not work.
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Hi Edi, No I haven't installed anything, but I think my problem might be something else (worse), I just realised that I can no longer copy move or delete files from either the PDA or the MC, I get an "access is denied" error.
Anyone have any idea what might have caused this? and better still, is there a fix.

I seem to be repeating myself lately with this answer, so I apologise if it seems down-right obvious, but have you ensured you have the latest version of ActiveSync/Windows Mobile Device Centre?
The reason I ask this is because I too was experiencing Sync problems using WMDV, but realised I didn't have the latest version (it doesn't automatically update with Windows Update, WTF?). Windows Mobile 6 is obviously programmed slightly different from revious versions, so updating Sync software is a simple step that's often missed...

Audio said:
I seem to be repeating myself lately with this answer, so I apologise if it seems down-right obvious, but have you ensured you have the latest version of ActiveSync/Windows Mobile Device Centre?
The reason I ask this is because I too was experiencing Sync problems using WMDV, but realised I didn't have the latest version (it doesn't automatically update with Windows Update, WTF?). Windows Mobile 6 is obviously programmed slightly different from revious versions, so updating Sync software is a simple step that's often missed...
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Hi Audio,
Thanks for the reply, but I do have the latest version and I never had a problem with it until this week.

Just so i can try and help, what is it you are using Dave? AS or WMDV?

Audio said:
Just so i can try and help, what is it you are using Dave? AS or WMDV?
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Hi Audio, I use both, AS at work and WMDV at home, both used to work fine.

And do you experience the issue on both?
EDIT: Apparently, there may be a problem with ActiveSync 4.5. Just take a look at this list of complaints about it lol.
One user stated:
"I was using AS4.2 with my ETen M700, everything was fine. I wanted to upgrade to WM6 and teh instructions said I needed to use AS4.5 I installed it and tried to connect my device - disaster! The rapimgr.exe process runs at 99% and slows the computer to a crawl.
After 3 attempts, I uninstalled it, and re-installed AS4.2 (available from www.microsoft.com) and now things are working again. "
This may be worth doing to see if this soilves your problem...

Audio said:
And do you experience the issue on both?
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Yes I have tried it on three different machines, I can see the PDA but it won't sync or let me move or copy files.
It look like I might have to do a hard reset, but I'm hoping not

Also, a chap on a premium (you have to pay for support!) site said the following, which seems slightly similar:
"I've been using ActiveSync for a while now to sync outlook up to my motorola q. For some strange reason it's stopped working. The connection takes place, you get the little signal saying that ActiveSync picks up on it, the "Connecting" message, followed by the "Synchronizing" message... and nothing. It just hangs there. I've reinstalled ActiveSync and Outlook and did a hard reset on the phone. I'm convinced the issue is with the desktop, if I take the same PDA home, I'm able to sync up with my PC there. Does anyone know what happens during the Synchronizing phase and what could be possibly causing it to hang? ActiveSync 4.5 is a new beast, solutions to the older versions don't seem to apply.
If I hit the Stop button, ActiveSync hangs on the "Stopping" message and ActiveSync on the phone becomes unresponsive until I unplug the cable."
So even a Hard reset didn't solve this guys problems...
I would recommend uninstalling AS 4.5 from your machine, and installing 4.2. Reason being, i believe you need your phone connected to the computer when you install syncing software, so it more than likely "fiddles" with some very well hidden settings on the device. If this is the case, 4.5 may have [email protected] it up, but 4.2 may be your savior.
If you decide to give it a go, let us know how it goes...

Audio said:
Also, a chap on a premium (you have to pay for support!) site said the following, which seems slightly similar:
"I've been using ActiveSync for a while now to sync outlook up to my motorola q. For some strange reason it's stopped working. The connection takes place, you get the little signal saying that ActiveSync picks up on it, the "Connecting" message, followed by the "Synchronizing" message... and nothing. It just hangs there. I've reinstalled ActiveSync and Outlook and did a hard reset on the phone. I'm convinced the issue is with the desktop, if I take the same PDA home, I'm able to sync up with my PC there. Does anyone know what happens during the Synchronizing phase and what could be possibly causing it to hang? ActiveSync 4.5 is a new beast, solutions to the older versions don't seem to apply.
If I hit the Stop button, ActiveSync hangs on the "Stopping" message and ActiveSync on the phone becomes unresponsive until I unplug the cable."
So even a Hard reset didn't solve this guys problems...
I would recommend uninstalling AS 4.5 from your machine, and installing 4.2. Reason being, i believe you need your phone connected to the computer when you install syncing software, so it more than likely "fiddles" with some very well hidden settings on the device. If this is the case, 4.5 may have [email protected] it up, but 4.2 may be your savior.
If you decide to give it a go, let us know how it goes...
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Hi Audio, I don't know what to do, I started another thread about no longer being able to either copy, move, delete, install or uninstall anything, I really don't think it's a sync problem anymore. I will wait another day or so and then I'm going clear storage and start again.
what really pisses me off is my wife has no problems at all? perhaps my PDA is ******.

Exactly the same has just happened to me - I tried to connect to ActiveSync this morning to copy a file across via bluetooth, but it refused to connect. I plugged in the USB cable, nothing - the phone charges but ActiveSync does not want to know.
I deleted the device in AS, tried to add a new one - nothing found.
I last sync'd up fine 4 days ago.
I am using Dutty's DualTouch v1.1 release.
I am using AS 4.5.0 build 5096
If I discover services via BT from the kaiser to the computer it finds the ActiveSync service.
I have done a soft reset, no difference, restarted the PC, same. I haven't applied any Windows Updates or made any changes since it stopped working.
I might try rolling back to AS 4.2
Edit: Same with AS4.2
Think it might be clear storage time
Cleared storage and then it worked fine...will take the opportunity to upgrade to dualtouch v2

Hi Blaze, damn it's annoying isn't it, my next move is clear storage as well.
Hope mine works again.

It's bloody happened again I reflashed the rom with Duty's Dual Touch V2. Much better rom, but activesync has just given up again via BT and usb. Maybe it's some inherent problem with WM, or with Duty's roms - which are you using Dave?
I've tried it on a fresh build of XP Pro on an old machine with nothing than AS & Outlook 2k3 on - same, AS sees the device, but wont sink. Problem seems with the device...

Dave... said:
perhaps my PDA is ******.
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Sorry I cant help other than to say my dutty rom is working fine on WMDC.
But I had to post and ask why you asterisked out the "ed" and left the lrest of the word in?

Brilliant! Lmao! :d:d:d

unwired4 said:
Sorry I cant help other than to say my dutty rom is working fine on WMDC.
But I had to post and ask why you asterisked out the "ed" and left the lrest of the word in?
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Good Point I didn't even notice, put it down to stress...
PS: For anyone who's interested, I ended up doing a hard reset, reinstalled my apps, restored my backups and it's working fine now.

Did you have F-secure Mobile installed? If not, I could take that away from possibilities that's causing this problem

Bluetooth Problem with Kaiser Please Help

Can anyone help me with this problem i just bought kaiser yesterday but i notice that i cant be able to receive any file transfer from a bluetooth connection.
However i can be able to beam file through bluetooth connection to another phone.
Can anyone help to solve this problem please?
thanks

Please be more specific, in order to get answers to your question. How your problems shows? Could it be just that other devices can not see your Kaiser, if so, then you have to tick checkbox "Make this device visible to other devices" on bluetooth settings.
--
Mika

As per the last post, your device has to be set to 'Visible' in BT settings and if you want your device 'Open' to receive all beams the uncheck the box in BT settings under 'Security'

There is another setting to check.
Under Start\Settings\Connections there is an icon labelled "Beam". Click this and make sure the box labelled "Allow incoming beams" is ticked. (Not sure about the exact wording but it is the only checkbox on the screen.)

And whilst we're on the subject of ticking boxes....
I'm pretty sure the two boxes under the FTP tab in the bluetooth setting need to be ticked aswell...Could there BE anymore boxes to tick for 1 simple operation?!

Similar Issues
I am having similar issues, but a bit more severe. Kaiser wont see my laptop that has a USB bluetooth dongle. It can see my bluetooth headset just fine. But it refuses to see my desktop and my desktop refuses to see it. Any suggestions
JKO

jack_b_uta said:
I am having similar issues, but a bit more severe. Kaiser wont see my laptop that has a USB bluetooth dongle. It can see my bluetooth headset just fine. But it refuses to see my desktop and my desktop refuses to see it. Any suggestions
JKO
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This sounds like a problem with your laptop/dongle, if your kaiser is able to see other things...

What rom are you using? I was using alex's rom for a while but he some how removed the ftp tab in the bluetooth settings and I was never able to receive any files. I switched over to sleuth's rom and it fixed all my problems.

kinktao said:
What rom are you using? I was using alex's rom for a while but he some how removed the ftp tab in the bluetooth settings and I was never able to receive any files. I switched over to sleuth's rom and it fixed all my problems.
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It's the same in Dutty's new ROM. The FTP tab is gone, and now I (and a few other people) can't send/receive via bluetooth.

Technical intervention is required here ...
I'm facing the exact same problem with my TyTn 2, but here are some spacifics that require an expert's opinion...
1. The device sends perfectly...
2. When it comes to recieving, here's the low-down:
-I tried sending a pairing req. from my computer (through my BT dongle) & the phone received the req.
-After the pair, the computer sent & the device received (no problem until now)...
-I tried sending another file (from my Nokia 6300) & there was no response from my phone...
-I tried sending from a Nokia 6260, the phone received without even the need to pair!!!
What I want to know is the technical reason for this to happen???
P.S.
Here are the options set on my device:
-Receive all incoming beams (Checked)
-Turn on BT (Checked)
-Make this device visible to other devices (Checked)
-Authentication (Passkey) required (Unchecked)

I think it would be a whole lot easier if you just packed your phone up and sent it to me. I would uh, take care of it for you.

Bluetooth beam fixed
You have to fix bluettooth with this cab
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=69625&d=1202484170
after fixed make soft reset and bingo!!
k101d

Thanks alot k101d for the quick response, but as I'm quite skeptical when it comes to messing around with my phone's internal configuration or registry files & so on, I would like to know the source from which you got the .CAB file, & what it exactly does (on the inside of course)...
Many thanks again, dude...

Oh, thanks a lot k101d.
Till today I was so dissapointed with this BT of mine (it costs about 100 €).
It worked !!!

Yo costas2by4AIO,
sorry if I'm gonna be bothering you, but bare with me & my desperate questions...
What exactly were you suffering (concerning BT) from before applying the .CAB file, & what was the result that satisfied you?

Hi Guys,
Need Help......
I am not able to beam more than one file altogether with my HTC tytn II
Please help me to figure out, How can I beam files altogether to other Bluetooth device instead of one by one.
Thanks,

k101d said:
You have to fix bluettooth with this cab
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=69625&d=1202484170
after fixed make soft reset and bingo!!
k101d
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I can't download this .CAB file any more ........anyone could help?
Or any way to fix my bluetooth problem.
I can not send or receive file with another PPC or even my computer.........

Please someone help
I do have the same problem. I can't send or receive files (contacts, video, photo, music, ringtones) from other phones.
Already tried HTC patchs, but no solution at all.
Tried to download that file, but the link is not availlable. Can someone post the file again or have another solution ?

Bluetooth Send Problem

Hi People, I've been away from PDA's for while, realized the error of my ways and picked-up o2 Stellar at the weekend, the 2nd one in week. Before doing anything I installed WIN 6.1,everything appeared to working fine, until I tried to transfer files from my N95 to the stellar via bluetooth, every time I tried I got the same error 'unable to connect, I can pair with any phone tried 4 different phones today and I can send from my phone to another but can't receive files. I have double checked all my settings they seem to OK so I'm at a loss. Before I take it back for a 3rd has anyone else here had the same problem or know what I'm doing wrong.
Any help and advice would be much appreciated.
ROM details as follows
ROM Version 3.29.206.0.WWE
05/09/08
Radio Verson 25.83.40.02W
BlueTooth Verson 2.0/2.0+EDR
Windows Mobile 6.1 Pro.

plaver said:
Hi People, I've been away from PDA's for while, realized the error of my ways and picked-up o2 Stellar at the weekend, the 2nd one in week. Before doing anything I installed WIN 6.1,everything appeared to working fine, until I tried to transfer files from my N95 to the stellar via bluetooth, every time I tried I got the same error 'unable to connect, I can pair with any phone tried 4 different phones today and I can send from my phone to another but can't receive files. I have double checked all my settings they seem to OK so I'm at a loss. Before I take it back for a 3rd has anyone else here had the same problem or know what I'm doing wrong.
Any help and advice would be much appreciated.
ROM details as follows
ROM Version 3.29.206.0.WWE
05/09/08
Radio Verson 25.83.40.02W
BlueTooth Verson 2.0/2.0+EDR
Windows Mobile 6.1 Pro.
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I had a similar problem with a bluetooth dongle.
Start/Settings/Connections/Beam/Recieve all incoming beams. Make sure BT filesharing is turned on the phone (if you fileshare), also make visible. BT can be spotty sometimes and these settings can be reset to default if the phone is reset.

nufsaid said:
I had a similar problem with a bluetooth dongle.
Start/Settings/Connections/Beam/Recieve all incoming beams. Make sure BT filesharing is turned on the phone (if you fileshare), also make visible. BT can be spotty sometimes and these settings can be reset to default if the phone is reset.
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I forgot the setting 'Receive all incoming beams' now that has been set, everything is OK. Thanks

Had the same problem. Set to visible, receive all incoming beams etc. but I could only send, not receive. I solved the problem by activating Bluetooth Explorer and Activate File sharing. Strange since I didn't have this problem with WM 6.0 and BT Explorer deactivated.

Bluetooth Questions/Issues

Considering the G1 doesn't have a standard 2.5 or 3.5mm jack for line out, stereo bluetooth was the only other option. who wants to use a retarded adapter on your headset??
Is there any way to add support for this later? It has to be a software fix, as WM didn't have Stereo Bluetooth until WM6. Any ideas?

You're about a month late discovering this one
I've heard that the Google devs are working on a new bluetooth stack that may support A2DP. I've been poring over so many forums lately, I couldn't begin to tell you exactly where. But even review sites say "...bluetooth (A2DP to come later)." When is anybody's guess.

"supposedly" there will be an update the same day it releases to add in A2DP support...

yeah ive heard of 2 updates after release or on release one major and the other not......but again who knows

rantrav said:
yeah ive heard of 2 updates after release or on release one major and the other not......but again who knows
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I hope the other update is video recording...
Oh well, this is STILL the best device T-Mobile has released since the HTC Wizard (aka T-Mobile MDA). And maybe add Outlook support w/ Activesync and Exchange. Well, that might take awhile but someother software might work just as well. Either way,
Does anyone know if word, excel, and powerpoint will work in some kind of fashion?

sino8r said:
I hope the other update is video recording...
Oh well, this is STILL the best device T-Mobile has released since the HTC Wizard (aka T-Mobile MDA). And maybe add Outlook support w/ Activesync and Exchange. Well, that might take awhile but someother software might work just as well. Either way,
Does anyone know if word, excel, and powerpoint will work in some kind of fashion?
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Im not too sure as to how great this source is....they said that there will one minor update and the other will big a big one with having to reset the device....so I really do not know I will try to find it tomorrow..i think that it was on the tmonews.com site...but i will look into it. if it is just a person then i wont post anything else about it but if it has some sort of source then i will be sure to post it.

sino8r said:
Does anyone know if word, excel, and powerpoint will work in some kind of fashion?
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So far, all they're promising is read-only for Office docs.

beartard said:
So far, all they're promising is read-only for Office docs.
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Even if we can install Docs-to-go?

Has DataViz put out an Android client?

G1 Bluetooth
I've asked in various stores and got different answers, so I'm hoping someone with a G1 can give me a definitive answer.
Will the G1 allow another device to access the internet over bluetooth??
Specifically I make a lot of use of my TomTom sat nav during the day, and I rely on it getting traffic updates over the web by bluetooth with my phone. Before I buy a G1 will this still work?
TIA
Dave

maybe?
For now no. maybe some one will develop

Poo, that means I have to still carry a PDA and a phone, I was hoping I could put both together by getting a G1.

You can get GPS Maps and Web access through your G1, so you wont need your TomTom. However, it wont be as detailed or have voice.

hotelier said:
You can get GPS Maps and Web access through your G1, so you wont need your TomTom. However, it wont be as detailed or have voice.
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YET!!! LOL

The hardware is there, but the software isn't finished yet. Right now the only thing Bluetooth can do in Android is connect to a hands-free headset. As I understand, Google is still working on the Bluetooth API and the other profiles will be enabled in a future software update.
Personally, I'm waiting for A2DP. Not a whole lot of point in loading a phone with music if it doesn't work with my headphones.

hotelier said:
You can get GPS Maps and Web access through your G1, so you wont need your TomTom. However, it wont be as detailed or have voice.
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We use our PDAs alongside our TomToms in vehicles, and to be honest I quite like having them seperate for various reasons.
I'll just have to wait for bluetooth internet then maybe reconsider my position.

drum said:
We use our PDAs alongside our TomToms in vehicles, and to be honest I quite like having them seperate for various reasons.
I'll just have to wait for bluetooth internet then maybe reconsider my position.
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I agree I like having separate devices. I don't like combining too many things into one object because you can't use them at the same time. I have a TomTom, a MP3/video player, and the G1 now... But I like the fact that when the TomTom is not up to date I can switch to the G1... and if I find myself without my MP3 player I can just use my G1. I like having the option but I don't use it on a daily basis.

TomTom traffic
I understand your concern as I have a similar problem. I have the Vario II and I have had a lot of trouble with it (WM6.1) connecting to the Tomtom traffic server. My case may be complicated by the fact that I ride (tomtom rider) and I cannot get the phone to fix things in the middle of the ride The problem started when Micro$oft changed DUP bluetooth connection and everything gets messed up. I was considering the android G1 as long as I can get the traffic service that I paid but I cannot use. And just to clarify, I do have a single tomtom unit which does the GPS and all the things. The phone is only to provide connection to the tomtom plus service.
I hope that comes soon.

flashing blue led for enabled bluetooth?
is there one? mine doesnt, yours?

Mine blinks when bluetooth is active... not sure if it's only when a device is connected or not but that would be nice to only see it when devices are connected.