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for those of you who have tried the new Opera 9.33 beta or the Opera 9.5, do you think its better then the Opera Mini?
For those of you who haven't tried it the link is right here
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368811
and I got a questions about this aswell. i want to install the Opera beta on my phone and i'm currently running Open Touch v3.0 Slimeline, is there a way were i can replace the Opera Mini so i wont have to Opera's on my phone and have it take up even more space?
thanks in advance
I installed the beta but didn't rly like it so i stayed with Mini, i'm running slimline as well
as for deleting the mini it barely takes any space, plus its build in the rom so i dont know if its deletable
aad4321 said:
yeah, the regular opera sucks!!! i had it before. opera mini like downloads the webpage through operas servers or something, while the standard opera is a standalone which is just as slow as IE. only advantage is that it dosent have to run in java.
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The new version is nothing like the 8.XX version. It's supposed to be a billion times better. I haven't tried it, yet, though.
the official new yes i'm sure i'd love it, but for some reason this early beta release is annoying me rly bad
The UI is very nice... you can just read the thread to see the opinions if you really want some more depth. It's a tad sluggish and kinda buggy, but I can't wait to see what the release version will look like--it looks pretty amazing right now.
The icons are pretty huge, I have a feeling that will get changed, though, because it seems like a lot of people don't like that...
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does it work like opera mini tho? like use operas server to download the web pages as one big "picture"?
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No it doesn't.
Opera Mobile is a full browser which doesn't use or require a transcoder/proxy.
I would use both, but be aware that it's a beta.
Try the the new Opera Mobile to figure it yourself.
I'll recommend to make a backup of your device before, as you should always if you test beta software
The bad thing is that the Beta installs itself directly into the \Windows folder and wastes like 9MB.
GAMBIT999 said:
The bad thing is that the Beta installs itself directly into the \Windows folder and wastes like 9MB.
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Wow... that's a big chunk of space... maybe if it was something freeware and cookable (at least legally cookable...) we could replace pocket IE with it...
I installed it last night on my spare wing and didn't care too much for this alpha release. Why?
1) text sections dont fit to screen like Opera Mini, so scrolling is involved
2) very buggy right now, especially the UI components and menus
3) felt sluggish compared to Opera Mini
4) no flash support
5) too friggin fat! as stated its about 9 megs installed
6)The version I dl'd didn't have an uninstall option. I manually deleted all the Opera9 folders and .exe to regain space.
I do have to say I like where they're going with this browser, scrolling is very fast and smooth. I for one will be waiting for this to hit beta and hope all the minor annoyances are cleared up. Unfortunately I don't see it being the iPhone safari killer people are touting it as unless somehow flash works it's way in, and I can finally have my Pandora on the road =)
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even if u ask to install on the storage card it will still put 9mb on the phone?
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yes it does, the installation routine will force it
There is a modified version of this leaked release which is for QVGA devices and installs to the storage card and has an uninstaller.
GiZZy said:
I installed the beta but didn't rly like it so i stayed with Mini, i'm running slimline as well
as for deleting the mini it barely takes any space, plus its build in the rom so i dont know if its deletable
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Yes you can delete the browser if you want.
Go to Programs>Esmertec jbeb
press on opera then click menu and uninstall
GAMBIT999 said:
Yes, the new Opera Mobile loads the Web through the Opera proxy servers to enhance it for mobile devices, just like Opera Mini does.
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No it doesn't.
Please stop spreading this myth.
Opera Mobile is a full browser which doesn't use or require a transcoder/proxy.
EyeAmRubber said:
No it doesn't.
Please stop spreading this myth.
Opera Mobile is a full browser which doesn't use or require a transcoder/proxy.
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Thanks for the heads-up. Taking my statement back
There is a modified version of this leaked release which is for QVGA devices and installs to the storage card and has an uninstaller.
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I gave this version a shot and really like it. Zooming in and out works really well, scrolling is very smooth, it automatically goes to full screen and hides menus during/after loading a page(except on arrow in the corner to bring it back up). User interface is excellent in my opinion. Only complaint I have for it is that text sections don't fit to screen like Opera Mini.
Hi, I'm getting a kaiser next month, how does the opera 9.5 zoom feature behave on it? Is it a smooth experience?
Not sure what you mean by Opera 9.5. I'm pretty sure that the latest Opera Mobile is 8.65 and that the latest Opera Mini is 4. Opera Mobile featuers no zoom. Opera Mini's zoom is smooth and works very well on my Kaiser. Just make sure you flash on the Dutty WM6.1 ROM and your phone should behave flawlessly and fast. Anything else is unacceptable.
Ayle said:
Hi, I'm getting a kaiser next month, how does the opera 9.5 zoom feature behave on it? Is it a smooth experience?
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Hi:
Opera 9.5 is currently available as a beta. I believe the official version should be out soon. I haven't tried it, so unfortunately I can't comment on the zoom, but I've heard it is a great browser.
I'm sure someone will come along soon who can give you an actual review
Prpose to embed this thread in the already existing Opera 9.5 beta thread.
Opera 9.5 is way better than the other Opera browsers imo. The zooming is smooth, sometimes may take a second to re-render it. I like the beta can't wait for the official release.
kkl0wn said:
Opera 9.5 is way better than the other Opera browsers imo. The zooming is smooth, sometimes may take a second to re-render it. I like the beta can't wait for the official release.
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Same here. The beta is very impressive. Unfortunately the version I had was quite buggy and crashed my phone from time to time so had to take it off.
Anyone heard of a release date? Seems a long time now since they announced it and put up the demo on their website.
So does the 9.5 Beta offer 'proper' page rendering and zooming a la Safari on a certain other phone?
kkl0wn said:
Opera 9.5 is way better than the other Opera browsers imo. The zooming is smooth, sometimes may take a second to re-render it. I like the beta can't wait for the official release.
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Is the beta still available to be downloaded?
gmfeld said:
Is the beta still available to be downloaded?
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here is it
cheers
I installed Opera 9.5 Beta QVGA (uninstall version) and it worked awesome until I noticed my HTC home plugin was acting weird. I soft reset now I have NO today screen plugins!! Even though they are ticked and performed many more soft resets and since removed OPERA 9.5 Beta. WTF??? How do I get my today screen plugins to show back on my Today screen? Any ideas beside the almighty Hard reset?? I'm bummed because The new Opera was looking sweet!
Thanks
Very disappointed with the 9.5 beta. Seems a huge step back from Opera Mini 4 (The Java one) to me.
Any word on when the official release will come out?
kareem9nba said:
Any word on when the official release will come out?
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yeah, i'm wondering the same thing here too...i love opera mini 9.5 beta, but its a lil glitchy at times, which is expected in a beta...but then again i just got an email from skyfire a few days ago, and that is the KILL all browser, integrated youtube, flash, and java FTW
Opera Mobile 9.5 Beta
http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/download/
version: 9.51b1
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Opera Mobile 9.5 Beta
http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/download/
version: 9.51b1
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I have tried this version, I am not so happy with it. I find it rather slow and the zooming in zooming out feels tedious. I may be spoiled because I am also using an iPod Touch with the Safari Mobile browser but are there any previous builds of the Opera Mobile 9.5 browser that have faster performance than this?
I am working on a Samsung i780 so I have a lot of power behind the phone, I just don't find this version jaw-dropping.
Okay this looks great. Just tested it on the Diamond and it's fast, seems stable and fixes the "black whole problem" at least on the sites I had problems with.
One drawback: it doesn't seem to support the g-sensor out of the box. however we might be able to work around that with gsen... didn't try that though.
I guess this is a real candidate for some cooked ROMs...
Edit: This thing is REALLY fast. We might probably want to work on how to replace the original opera on a diamond with this version?
Cheers,
Alex
Will installing this overwrite the default Opera diamond browser?
You can install it on the internal storage - so your pre-installed opera should be left untouched. As for the default browser setting - I didn't check that. But you should be able to switch back if desired as well.
Okay from some testing I can report the following issues:
Does not use old Opera's bookmarks, so when overwriting old opera there's no way to sync bookmarks with Manila (some tiny application might be written to do the job however I guess)
Occasionly prevents device standby (even when manually pressing the standby button) - getting out of opera helps
At least in my setup it keeps starting itself when exited - that might however be a result of me playing around to replace original opera with new one
The most noticable bug from opera's official known-issues list is the non-working re-flow of text paragraphs. instead the paragraphs are _always_ sized to fit the zoomed-in screen
Auto-rotation is not implemented out of the box - I didn't test, yet if GSen would do the trick (for some of us disabled auto-rotation might actually be a plus ;-)
Some of these issues obviously have to be fixed for a final - but I assume they will do so until the final release.
On the bright side we have:
Definitely faster
Looks like it has lower memory consumption (not measured though) - this actually makes the auto-restart thing I experience acceptable for me - I simply keep it running in the background at the moment
The black-hole problem seems to be fixed
Once the issues have been worked out this will be a huge step forward in mobile browsing on the diamond - even compared to the current version of opera mobile!
If anyone else is testing this software I'd be happy to hear some feedback and maybe solutions found to the issues I mentioned.
Cheers,
Alex
Does it also support Flash based websites? (containing flash video's?)
i also tried to install it both on the device & internal storage, but it just won't start the new version... even when i start the program from the program list it will start the old version...
i guess the beta version wanted to prevent the resizing of the paragraph while zooming in some text pages, but i do like it coz the zooming in & out is now more precise...
anyone have any idea how to replace the old opera with this new beta...
also another problem encountered is the pop up of the input keyboard... it will automatically switch to the default windows style even if i set it to full qwerty keyboard...
i hope htc will implement it soon or opera could release the final version soon, this browser is the best so far~
Here is the Thread containing the latest Opera build, was released yesterday I think. Anyway, its miles better than this beta, go check it out!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401643
not impressed, seems much slower than what im currently using
find it in the file manager to launch it.
I find it has a keyboard issue... it keeps reverting back to small qwerty.
I uninstalled it and now my original opera takes longer to load up. (now those progress blocks have appeared?)
FH1 said:
find it in the file manager to launch it.
I find it has a keyboard issue... it keeps reverting back to small qwerty.
I uninstalled it and now my original opera takes longer to load up. (now those progress blocks have appeared?)
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i need to do the samething to launch it;
the keyboard issue is really annoying but the performance is better; i like the skin of it
i didn't have that problem... i tried installing it on internal mem & device & my diamond opera is still working
Jin187 said:
Here is the Thread containing the latest Opera build, was released yesterday I think. Anyway, its miles better than this beta, go check it out!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401643
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Have to agree, build 1938 is *way* better than this one, it's a lot faster and far more stable. At least on a Samsung i780 which is what I used to test it.
I also tried it on an iMate Jasjar but the build had problems working with the qwerty keyboard -- when you try to type it will take in one character then close the SIP, so you can no longer enter any letters. Horrible bug, did not have this problem with any other build I tried so far. But it works fine, only problem is I have to use the SIP, and the point of getting a Universal is to have the QWERTY!
There are so many Opera versions out there...
The one I have been using 15316. Before that I was using some other version, I can't remember which.
Anyway, I am tired of this flipping the screen upside down everytime I exit it (in landscape).
Which is the best version to use on a Tilt?
SaltyDawg said:
There are so many Opera versions out there...
The one I have been using 15316. Before that I was using some other version, I can't remember which.
Anyway, I am tired of this flipping the screen upside down everytime I exit it (in landscape).
Which is the best version to use on a Tilt?
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I was using Opera 9.5 beta 2, and hated the whole widget mess that they created, so I rolled back to beta 1. So far no complaints.
TelloMan said:
I was using Opera 9.5 beta 2, and hated the whole widget mess that they created, so I rolled back to beta 1. So far no complaints.
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Where can I get it? What is the build number?
Just a tip, build 15233 ripped from the Omnia worked very well in the short time I used it. There was no screen flipping problem, and it was very stable. It also supported zooming by sliding your finger on the side of the screen. I think the real reason I stopped using it was there was some kind of text reflow issue when you zoomed it though. It has no widgets, although it installs a shortcut to the non-existent widgets, so you need to delete it.
However, I currently use NFSFan's build 15316, which I like due to its 10 tab support and speed. However, as a trade off, it suffers from the screen flipping problem if you minimize it or touch the taskbar while using it. And I definitely agree with TelloMan about the widgets, they just waste space and annoy me. Try to keep looking around XDA, especially in Development and Hacking (where I found many opera builds).
Dave
Yeah, NSFan's 15316 is the one I'm using now. The screen flipping is driving me crazy.
It's hard to believe there isn't one decent browser for Windows Mobile. Anyone know what's going on with that Firefox Mobile?
you're referring to "Minimo" by Mozilla. I haven't seen or heard much lately from them. There's some opera builds are fairly close to perfection depending on what irritates you the least amount. Too bad none of them has flash working perfectly yet. If I had to choose 2 browsers for WM, it would be netfront and opera mobile
well... call me heretic, but imho for casual browsing and forums the best one is opera mini and if I need to use my bank's web page or anything more complicated iexplorer is reliable enough. additionally, I have skyfire installed on my memcard just to make sure that I can browse whatever I want.
the answer? opera mini and skyfire in my opinion. I am tired of o.mobile bugs and new builds every few days/weeks.
Actually, I think he is referring to Fennec, not minimo. Minimo was horrible and requires very high specs, while Fennec, which is still in alpha/early beta, is very unstable yet very promising. It will be quite a while before it will be really usable. I would just stick to opera mobile for now. Skyfire works well, but isn't 100% stable. Opera mini is fast, but not full featured.
As I said, Fennec is very promising, but it is extremely unstable and VGA only for now.
Dave
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well... call me heretic, but imho for casual browsing and forums the best one is opera mini and if I need to use my bank's web page or anything more complicated iexplorer is reliable enough. additionally, I have skyfire installed on my memcard just to make sure that I can browse whatever I want.
the answer? opera mini and skyfire in my opinion. I am tired of o.mobile bugs and new builds every few days/weeks.
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I agree about Mini i use it for pretty much everything then for sensitive info use Mobile.
"I like fast pages and come from SP stock so used to the Mini approach"
I used to get annoyed by the text flipping, but Manila2D always corrects the screen back to portrait when you hit the homescreen. I've been using that as my bandaid.
Build 15233 is yummy
DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
Just a tip, build 15233 ripped from the Omnia worked very well in the short time I used it. There was no screen flipping problem, and it was very stable. It also supported zooming by sliding your finger on the side of the screen.
<snippy snip snip>
Dave
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Like Dave was, I just got build 15233 running per the instructions at
http://www.smartphonemag.com/cms/blog/9/tutorial-everything-you-need-know-about-flash-lite-3-and-playing-back-flash-web-videos
and it is by far the best browser experience I've had on my Tilt yet. Flash even worked on http://www.spezzo.com.
It isn't very fast, but compared to IE and the first Minimo, this actually WORKS. I can switch from mobile versions to desktop versions, zoom and scroll, and it uses my IE favorites.
AT&T Tilt
Windows Mobile 6.1 (Build 19199.dutty's)
Thanks XDA good guys!
Was curious if anyone had tried this 10 2beta build of Opera Mobile?
I just installed it on my Fuze and dig it so far. Especially the text fields. It makes it much easier to post w/o the aggrivating scrolling and lack of ability to scroll w/o having to back off zoom. Still running through options at moment. All new look and setup.
do you have a .cab? I'd like to try
how do you edit the tabs tho?
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how do you edit the tabs tho?
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Tap and hold on a tab brings up a edit/clear menu (a good second an a half hold)
Cab.
I dumbed up on it trying to go to opera;config. Its on opera website I think it was m.opera.com for the mobile dl. of the cab.
Says its for Nokias and smartphones, but still works great for me. I havent tried youtube, but from what I read its supposed to play. I was on my phone and havent had time to sit @ desktop or I would have upped the file. i tried from fuze, with the 10 2beta and thought it was gonna actually let me upload it here, then it said unsuccessful upload.
I have been using Opera 10 b2 for a while and like it, alot!
Much better than 9 IMO.
One thing I found, Opera 10 can be "Squeezed" (compressed .exe) and it makes a WORLD of difference in boot time.
could opera 10-2 beta could do copy and paste text & pict just like usual opera for laptop?
I too like Opera 10 a lot better than 9.x. However I like the last 10 build better, this one seems to have issues with some XML stuff I use/do. I will jump back to an older version to test, to make sure that is in fact the issue... but yeah - 10 kicks ass, way better.
just tested 10 beta 2u on youtube. it opens streaming media player and quality is bad. 10 2u has auto screan rotate.
Been using opera 10 beta on symbian before and now on wm, works as good here Alot better than 9.x, seems faster to me atleast and GUI is alot better on 10b2.
Opera 10 beta 2
Is my favorite of all browsers. If you install on your storage card all your favorites are saved after reflashing.