I work for a Japanese company, so I've added support for the language to WindowsMobile phones several times and never had these problems.
I install LetsJapanNo6 on a Tilt that's been upgraded to 6.1 and as soon as I type a few keys (regardless of the SIP used; even before any extra are loaded) it flips out and starts "typing" garbage and the only way to stop it is to soft reset. I've done a lot of other stuff without typing, and that seems to be the only time it happens. I tried installing IME_31J_QVGA_F first and making the necessary reg edits, but that didn't change anything.
I thought my files might be corrupt, so I re-downloaded them from a few different locations. I was going to use Effy's solution, but it doesn't have the type of SIP my people like to use.
Hmm... I remember I saw exactly the same behavior you are describing a little while back on my Tilt. If I remember correctly I was trying to install ookii.org's pocket dictionary and not LetsJapan at the time though. I never figured out what the deal was though as got rid of the device shortly after that.
I used to use LetsJapan on that same phone all the time without any issues, but I think that was before I upgraded to WM6.1, so maybe it is a issue with the WM6.1 rom for the tilt? I know it is not an issue with WM6.1 in general because I have LetsJapan running on my new Fuze without any problems.
If downgrading to WM6 is an option, you might try that and see if it works.
Try IME for WM6
Frode Aleksandersen ported or emulated IME on WM6...
I initially found it here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445550
Frode has another version of it here...
http://groups.google.com/group/hony...aefd89be0db/aa1f65816c24a06a#aa1f65816c24a06a
It's really great. Thanks Frode!
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Greetings fellow tweakers,
I am having a problem with my newly acquired US-version T-Mobile MDA Vario (aka HTC Wizard).
For some reason, I can't get ANY 3rd party SIPs (software input panels) to work with this damned thing. NONE. I have tried at least half a dozen (Calligrapher, InterKey, etc.), and the result is always the same. The SIP installs, and when I click on the SIP icon, the option shows on the popup menu (although that menu takes FOREVER to display). Then, when I try to select it, the device reverts to the default keyboard SIP and the one I installed never works.
I once had this problem on my older Wallaby device, and it mysteriously went away. Is it possible that I have a corrupted DLL or registry setting somewhere?
Is anybody else seeing this kind of problem?
Thanks, and happy hacking.
- Justin
This is a know problem with the WM5 devices. I had the same problem.
Luckily Fitaly made a version 4 which doesn't have this problem.
All the other alternetive input methods suffer from this problem.
A small workaround: Soft reset and then choose the SIP of choice before opening any other programs. Works most of the time. Sometimes Todayplugins can interfere.
Wouter
I've tested a bunch of SIPs, and there's several where after the install, you need to soft reset first. Some of them actually do this for you (TopKey was one of them, I think).
I know this topic is months old, but I have recently run into this issue. I'm using Molski's WM5 v3.3 and am getting the EXACT issue as the 1st post recounts.
I install calligrapher, soft reset, run anything, click the keyboard icon (in order to change input methods), the PDA pauses for 7-12 seconds, menu pops up, I click on calligrapher, the keyboard icon remains and the input method doesn't change.
I absolutely LOVE calligrapher, and this is really worrying me on this AKU version.
Is there a fix for this or another AKU3.3 ROM that allows calligrapher to work?
Lowkee
Hi all S730 users!
For some time I've tried to get iFonz working on my S730 but with no luck. It won't even start before it'll crash with an exception. I've tried multiple versions but with the same result.
It seems from the iFonz thread that most people are using it quite happily, but I'm not sure how many of them that run it on a S730.
Have you tried it? If so, any tricks to get it to run?
I've tried to upgrade .NET3 (which is requirement) but I already have the latest version it states.
/Peter
iFonz is for Pocket PCs (devices with touchscreen) only, isn't it?
Well, I just thought that if the requirements are met, i.e. WM6 and .NET3, then I could run the app and navigate with the keyboard, but perhaps you are right. Too bad
/Peter
If Your talking Samsung i730, installed on mine and works perfectly Net.3 went in easily as well. I was surprised..
Hi dogpuke1,
As the thread indicates I have an HTC S730 so I guess it would be quite different from your Samsung i730.
Happy to hear you got it working through
/Peter
Okay, long story short(ened).
I've been using xda-dev for a long time, but this is my first time actually posting. I used to have a T-mo Wing, realized just how many ways in which it lacked power-wise, and decided to upgrade to a Kaiser (specifically, an AT&T Tilt).
I used the Tilt with its original ROM for a really long time, and I was about to sell it on eBay to buy a G1 (which I may still do, we'll see) when I decided to try out flashing it with a new ROM.
I weeded through the various ROMs that you guys have cooked up, and I decided I liked Sakajati's Hyperdragon III Opal the best.
Took me a while to get it to work (biggest issue was that I had to switch to my wife's computer with XP, since my PC runs Vista), but now that I've got it running, I love it. I had my Kaiser running all sorts of fun apps before (man, some of you guys make some seriously awesome stuff!), but I could never get TouchFlo to work, so this ROM makes me very pleased. Manila is awesome, too. =)
Anyhow, to the point.
The Tilt has a different keyboard setup than the standard Kaiser. As a result, when I'm typing, I go to hit & and = shows up instead. # turns up with *, " yields &, etc. I can deal with this, but it's pretty annoying.
I don't know, maybe this was addressed in the Hyperdragon III thread, but I tried finding it to no avail. Since this isn't quite a Hyperdragon III issue so much as just needing to rework my keys, I don't think this belongs in that thread anyhow.
But, question is - do you guys happen to have any solutions? Maybe a program that lets me reprogram each of my keys to my own preference, maybe a .CAB that automatically reprograms my keys to the appropriate format. I don't care. I just want a solution.
Anybody?
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Okay, long story short(ened).
I've been using xda-dev for a long time, but this is my first time actually posting. I used to have a T-mo Wing, realized just how many ways in which it lacked power-wise, and decided to upgrade to a Kaiser (specifically, an AT&T Tilt).
I used the Tilt with its original ROM for a really long time, and I was about to sell it on eBay to buy a G1 (which I may still do, we'll see) when I decided to try out flashing it with a new ROM.
I weeded through the various ROMs that you guys have cooked up, and I decided I liked Sakajati's Hyperdragon III Opal the best.
Took me a while to get it to work (biggest issue was that I had to switch to my wife's computer with XP, since my PC runs Vista), but now that I've got it running, I love it. I had my Kaiser running all sorts of fun apps before (man, some of you guys make some seriously awesome stuff!), but I could never get TouchFlo to work, so this ROM makes me very pleased. Manila is awesome, too. =)
Anyhow, to the point.
The Tilt has a different keyboard setup than the standard Kaiser. As a result, when I'm typing, I go to hit & and = shows up instead. # turns up with *, " yields &, etc. I can deal with this, but it's pretty annoying.
I don't know, maybe this was addressed in the Hyperdragon III thread, but I tried finding it to no avail. Since this isn't quite a Hyperdragon III issue so much as just needing to rework my keys, I don't think this belongs in that thread anyhow.
But, question is - do you guys happen to have any solutions? Maybe a program that lets me reprogram each of my keys to my own preference, maybe a .CAB that automatically reprograms my keys to the appropriate format. I don't care. I just want a solution.
Anybody?
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Do a search on xda for tilt keyboard fix.
jeannette
this file will make the changes you need
Thanks guys. I appreciate the help.
RTFM!! haha just kidding. I'm not trying to be one of those guys.
Since you are new to the tilt, I'd recommend you read this thread though. There are lots of good links and tutorials in there.
Not sure how this has come about but I used to be able to connect to internet really easily through my work laptop when the TyTn II was connected by either Bluetooth or USB. Now I don't seem to be able to connect to either????
When connecting through USB I seem to be able to connect to the PC via 'Internet Sharing' which also lights up the 'Data Connection' icon but when I try to use IE it just says 'Cannot connect using current settings'. Thing is, I haven't changed anything and it used to work fine. Getting a bit fed up with the whole TyTn II at moment as I seem to spend more time fathoming why it's not doing what I want than doing it. Beginning to think a seperate phone/PDA may be best way ahead.
Unsure of whether the problem is related to the official 6.1 upgrade or the install of NoData (as I got fed up with accidentally hitting the weather and Quick GPS refresh and having the phone eat money).
Regardless of what I try I can't seem to get it to connect to internet albeit phone shows as connected via both Bluetooth or USB.
Short of solving this (and I'm not sure where to start) I'm temted to do a reflash and leave out things like No Data etc etc and just see if it works again. Bit of a nuisance really.
Tried searching all manner of related topics but no joy so far
It is a problem with the WM 6.1 official HTC update
I had exactly the same problem in reverse with my TyTN II when it was running the WM 6.1 (the same official HTC ROM that you have). By 'in reverse' I mean I couldn't initially do internet related things on the TyTN II using my home internet (either via USB or Bluetooth connection). It was fine before but after the upgrade thats when the problem occurred. I didn't have any additional software installed apart from Tomtom Navigator 6.032 (HTC Version) so I don't think your NoData install will be to blame (at least not solely). I did manage to get pocket IE working under these circumstances though after I had a fiddle around in the connections tab under settings - or was it Activesyncs settings.... I could never get the automatic Quick GPS updates to occur though, even under those settings and I still had to manually update (although it did use the home internet connection when I did this).
I remember that I changed a drop down selection from something along the lines of this device is connected to 'Auto' to make it 'The Internet'. Sorry for being so vague but I've now reverted to the original WM 6.0 ROM (more precisely I had HTC do it for free under the warranty) and none of the options I'm looking at now ring any bells. Perhaps someone else recalls more clearly what settings change is required.
I think the most important part of your post is:
Empgamer said:
Getting a bit fed up with the whole TyTn II at moment as I seem to spend more time fathoming why it's not doing what I want than doing it.
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Thats how I felt about the HTC upgrade that wasn't. I was quick to go down the upgrade path but since it's been back with WM 6.0 other than a few uncommanded resets in the first day or two which haven't since reoccured, the device is now rock solid again. Of course it'd be nice to think the latest HTC upgrade didn't introduce more problems than were already present but in my experience their current update is more trouble than it's worth (and you haven't even mentioned GPS). If you decide you want it reverted under warranty, I found the HTC Repair Centre (at least here in the UK) to do a fine job of it. I dropped off my phone in the morning, after booking it in over ther phone the day before and it was ready at the end of the same day.
Flying Kiwi said:
If you decide you want it reverted under warranty, I found the HTC Repair Centre (at least here in the UK) to do a fine job of it. I dropped off my phone in the morning, after booking it in over ther phone the day before and it was ready at the end of the same day.
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Or you can always download the original shipped roms here off the wiki and flash it yourself. It only takes about 10 minutes. You dont have to download a special SPL for an OEM rom
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
The spl is an issue - reverting it
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Or you can always download the original shipped roms here off the wiki and flash it yourself.
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I was tempted to do that myself (and even asked HTC for the downgrade file to do so) but there are a couple of issues for those of us that like to keep things 'HTC Official'. A big one for me is that since HTC was responsible for creating the buggy WM 6.1 ROM, they should also accept responsibility for fixing it (fat chance of that, I agree with what -888- wrote in the WM 6.0 vs. WM 6.1 thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=432482&page=4 along the lines of the best developers being assigned to the latest and greatest products). If they're not going to fix it, then they should at least revert the device to a reliable state. I was in a fortunate position to be in the area of the HTC Repair Centre but if it means sending the phone away, I understand why some might prefer the DIY option.
It only takes about 10 minutes. You dont have to download a special SPL for an OEM rom
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There's alot to digest about ROM (and Radio and spl) flashing in the wiki and that takes much more than 10 mins. Although a special spl such as hardSPL isn't used with the HTC official setups, the spl does need to be reverted from the 3.28 version with the official WM 6.1 WWE, back to a 1.xx version with WM 6.0 for proper functioning. That isn't just a simple case of running the RUU program like the upgrade to WM 6.1 was - it has to be manually reverted (presumably using something like jumpSPL and the procedure in the wiki for restoring a device for warranty purposes) so it gets more complicated. I was expecting spl version something along the lines of 1.56 on my WM 6.0 setup (to match the ROM numbers) but they installed 1.93, presumably because it was more reliable or offered other performance benifits. Perhaps the ideal spl is in the package already but again this cant just be run like the WM 6.1 upgrade was so there's some jiggery pokery involved
I tend to agree. Not sure why I really bothered with 6.1. One of the first things I did was use Kaiser Tweaks to turn threaded SMS off.
I didn't realise that reverting to WM 6.0 would require more than reflashing so that makes it a little more problematic. I'm not near a HTC Centre. The whole device certainly seems more buggy under 6.1 than it did before and this internet through laptop problem is a nuisance. Being fairly unimpressed with Co-Pilot I don't use GPS that much and, withe the aside that i think I've used the keyboard twice since I had it (another 'essential' I'd put on my list for phone/PDA attributes), I'm beginning to wonder if return to factor state and sell it might not be the better option, reverting to a Nokia E51 and Ipaq 214 Enterprise combination
Post is an option.
Empgamer said:
I'm beginning to wonder if return to factor state and sell it might not be the better option, reverting to a Nokia E51 and Ipaq 214 Enterprise combination
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Of course it's up to you but don't forget that even though you may not be near a HTC Repair Centre, you could still call them up on the phone to make the booking and post the device to them once you've arranged to have it reverted. They should do it for free but confirm this so you don't get any unpleasant surprises.
I've had my Tilt running pretty smoothly on the stock firmware since I bought it over the summer (camera stopped working, but that's a different story). Anyway, I did a backup this morning (SPB Backup), and after the reboot I couldn't get a voice signal. If I pushed the phone button, nothing would happen! Now here's the weird thing: I'm able to get a data connection (was able to get new email), but the phone icon still says no service. Has anybody experienced this before, or know of any fixes? I've soft-booted a few times, but didn't want to hard boot if there was a simpler way.
And yes I did search this entire forum for similar posts, but didn't find any.
Thanks in advance!
have you tried a different SIM from a different operator?
you might want to try a different SIM from a different operator just to be sure your SIM and/or operator is not the problem.
if it works with another SIM, you can be fairly certain that it is NOT a hardware issue...in which case, a hard reset will more than likely resolve your problem.
also, are you able to receive incoming calls? what kind of a message does the caller get in case your phone doesn't even wake up and ring? finally, have you tested sms text messaging? try sending a message to someone and also try to receive an sms text message from someone...these little steps will help you confirm whether or not you are experiencing a hardware issue...in which case you might want to consider having it checked/fixed under warranty.
keep searching...cheers !!!
Happened to me once. I tried everything, but didn't work. If it's under warranty, AT&T will replace it. I went through 3 units in the 11 months I owned tilt.
hmmm have you tried flashing another Radio? (don't know what happened to your camera, but if you've got cam & phone issues, it's worth checking the Radio...
It's happened to me twicw also. This is an SPB Backup quirk. I'm afraid a hard reset is all that's left to do.
Well,
first of check if you're connecting to the correct network AT&T and not accidently logged on to the T-Mobile network - perform a manual network search / selection on your device.
If the above step does not help, try to restore your device with the SPB Backup you made. If that also does not work, well, then ... yeah ... hard reset! I would not really consider a RADIO FLASH on your device since it semmed to be working fine for you before that?
Thanks for everyone's suggestions. I tried doing a full restore of the latest backup (that morning), and that seemed to bring back the phone functionality. However, the restore also eliminated a few of my main programs, which was very weird! So, I did a full restore from the previous backup and tested that one out. Everything was like it should be. Then I did a restore of the latest backup's tasks/appointments (only things that changed), and now I'm back to full operation
As a side question, since I'm running WM 6.0 and want to flash to 6.1, would I be able to do a full restore from SPB Backup... or would that be incompatible with the upgraded OS?
You won't be able to perform a FULL RESTORE. There are a couple of changes in WM6.1, so, just to be on the save side I would suggest that you back up your PIM data, then flash to 6.1, restore your PIM data and reinstall all of your application.
BTW:
I was running WM6.1 on my MWg Zinc II and couldn't find any real advantages other than THREADED SMS. The Pocket IE gets a whole bunch of new bugs (for example Frames in websites are not shown or not shown correctly) and experienced a couple of incompatibilities with 3rd-party software application. If you still want to take a chance, good luck! However, I do not believe that you can go back to WM6.0 once you flash to 6.1!
I wouldn't upgrade to 6.1 if you're running SPB software. I was running 6.1 without problems, then loaded SPB Phone Suite, Diary, and Pocket Plus, and suddenly Garmin XT couldn't locate satellites at all. It took several hard and soft resets, and a visit to the SPB forums to realize that 6.1 could be the culprit, and it was. All problems disappeared with 6.0. There was a post at the SPB forums that *seemed* to indicate that SPB apps hadn't been fully tested--they may have used the word "certified"--with 6.1. Good luck.
No, that's not it -- I'm running the latest versions of all of those SPB titles on a stock 6.1 with no problems.
i have no spb apps on this one and i have the problem...it just can't fix the network
it happened few days ago to a guy that isn't quite familiar with ppcs he somehow turned it off and when he turned it on he couldn't get the network...eventually he hooked up after half a day (i'm not sure for how long did this problem last because i don't know does he use soft reset and flight mode)...so i took the kaiser to test it and to see what happened..i messed with flight mode and SR it couldn't find the net at all
tried wm6 and two wm6 radios
tried wm6.1 and two wm6.1 radios
i'll try android...just to test the module itself..if there are any hardware issues