I'm not sure if this should be in the general section or in the software section because I'm not really sure what it is.
Anyway, my tethering speed has drastically slowed over the past few days.
I was getting about 28-30 kbs per second during downloads, and now, I'm at a forever slow 2-5 kbs per second.
I've tried resetting my phone and my computer hoping that would do something, but it's still just slowly chugging along.
I even installed a new radio hoping it would do something, but nothing happened.
Any ideas what could be causing this?
Some info would help.......
Who is your provider?
What general area are you in?
Have you checked to see if they are having tower issues ( Other users in your general area having issues too) ?
What kind of signal strength do you have?
What rom/radio are you using?
What spl are you using?
Are you connected via Edge, GRPS, 3G , or HSDPA?
Have you installed any software at all before this all started happening?
pyraxiate said:
Some info would help.......
Who is your provider?
What general area are you in?
Have you checked to see if they are having tower issues ( Other users in your general area having issues too) ?
What kind of signal strength do you have?
What rom/radio are you using?
What spl are you using?
Are you connected via Edge, GRPS, 3G , or HSDPA?
Have you installed any software at all before this all started happening?
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My provider is at&t.
I'm in the Metro-St. Louis area.
I haven't checked if they're having tower issues. I guess I should have done that...
I've got all of my bars, like usual.
My rom is one of the NATF final roms with the hermes 6.1 radio, and before that, I had a niki radio. I updated to the hermes to see if it helped anything.
and in my area, I usually have edge connection.
and no, I havent installed any software.
do u have tethering plan?
if so callup att and tell them. i know they are messing around w/broadband speeds and this might have spilled over to wireless as well.
Do you know how your connected? G,E,3G,H?
In my area, I'm usually connected to edge.
I called at&t and there isn't anything wrong with the towers around me or anything.
Now I'm really confused.
I put on a new rom yesterday, and it's still going super super slow.
gregxdoom said:
I called at&t and there isn't anything wrong with the towers around me or anything.
Now I'm really confused.
I put on a new rom yesterday, and it's still going super super slow.
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Have you tested for the problem in another location? I had a similar problem in the area where I worked on a project recently (about 15 miles from home). At first, everything was fine there. Then for about a week, the data service got so bad I could hardly connect at times. Called AT&T to complain, gave them the location and they told me they had no reports of anything wrong with the towers there, even though everything worked fine for me elsewhere.
Did a hard-reset, cleaned off the phone and didn't re-install anything, and tested it again. Same problem.
After about two weeks, the problem suddenly disappeared. Apparently I wasn't the only one calling in to complain every day.
It's still going mad slow.
I think I just might have to bite the bullet and get a new phone if noone else has any other suggestions.
gregxdoom said:
It's still going mad slow.
I think I just might have to bite the bullet and get a new phone if noone else has any other suggestions.
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What are your connection settings ?
Are you connecting to isp.cingular or wap.cingular ?
Do you have a Pda Plan?
Try deleting all of your settings and putting in this configuration
For both of these make sure the modem is " Cellular Line ( GPRS, 3G ) "
Call this config My ISP
Apn= isp.cingular
User Name = [email protected]
Password = CINGULAR1
Disable the proxy
If that still wont connect
Apn = wap.cingular
User Name = [email protected]
Password = CINGULAR1
Again, make sure the proxy is disabled
Dont select any of the compression settings / ect. Let it stay as default.
Test again and give us your results.
P.S.
The name/password is CASE SENSITIVE so make sure you are using caps exactly as I have for both. ONLY the APN is lower case!
Goodluck and we hope to hear from you soon!
PPS.
Proxy settings are under the tab that says "Proxy Settings"
Make sure you have "This network connectes to the internet" checked and "this network uses a proxy server to connect to the internet" UNCHECKED.
I had problems similar to to this. I would connect and everything seem fine until I tried to download a large file or large amount of data (like a heavy, app-filled website) then my connection speed would drop to near nothing or even completely stall, forcing me to disconnect/reconnect to fix the problem.
In my case it turned out to have something to do with my TCP window size.
I got a copy of TCPoptimizer and started playing with the settings of my laptop, the default setting was about 126000, but I found that I would get the slowdown or stalling with any setting above 40000!
I now have it set to about 26000 and it works great! 1.8 mbs!
I'm not a network guy, but i think that the long latency, fading, shadowing, etc. of the 3G connection was causing the large packet size not to download completely, necessitating duplicate attempts to get the packet.
It would make sense to me that a larger TCP window would mean a faster connection, but in my case this turned out not to be true.
Maybe one of the NT Gurus on here could explain it
So, I would suggest you get TCPoptimizer, or DRTCP and try changing the network settings of your laptop, and then use a registry editor for your Tilt to change the settings there too.
Hope this helps,
SF
I guess it was just the network, because a few days ago, it just started working normally. Thanks to everyone that helped though.
gregxdoom said:
I guess it was just the network, because a few days ago, it just started working normally. Thanks to everyone that helped though.
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Fortunately the issue has been resolved but you never did report back regarding WAP vs ISP. Earlier this month I had a long layover at O'Hare and ran into the same issue - slow, slow, and slow (26 down, up was norm), but that was on 3G, switched to EDGE and it was good to go. Not only was this on my Tilt, but aircard as well. Network issue, not Tilt. Hence why a quick speed test between 3G/EDGE helps answer the question...
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I've had a Tilt since it launched and have run multiple different roms. What has always happened since I bought it, is that my internet connection will drop when I'm on a phone. I don't understand. I shouldn't, right? None of my other non-WM phones dropped the internet connection.
That's one of the things I loved about GSM, I could be talking on the phone (via BT) and use the internet on it, but not anymore with this phone. IM+ will disconnect all the IM clients, which is the most annoying one. I think I've heard people in this forum say they don't have this problem. Is it a flaw with Windows Mobile itself (Microsoft catering to CDMA), the Kaiser model, firmware or my phone itself?
yep, drops my HSDPA when on call as well. It's probably normal.
hey man you know you can only use the phone and the internet at the same time on a 3g conection right? if its not that then i dont know whats up try a new rom i guess
hey i just saw that another person posted in here and had the same problem on a 3g network so i tried it out i can use the phone for data and a call at the same time im using a wm 6.1 rom not sure what one maybe its a problem with the service in your area
Man, some commas would really help..
Anyway.. when you say that u can use phone and internet at the same time - have you actually tried being on the call and browse internet? It does stay connected, but there is no traffic.
I don't think it has ever worked on my Kaiser. It works on my Razr v3xx. Maybe it is 3G. For some reason, now that I put a new 6.1 rom and a new 6.1 compatible radio, my phone is almost only on EDGE when I used to always be on HSDPA. Well, the battery life is better at least. I'll try again when I connect to a 3G network, which used to be always.
I don't think my Razr was limited to simultaneous voice + data only when on 3G.
fb.knight said:
hey man you know you can only use the phone and the internet at the same time on a 3g conection right? if its not that then i dont know whats up try a new rom i guess
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I've known this too. Tethering and phone work in 3g for me as well.
yeah i did browse to a few sites made sure it was using the data. even made sure it wasnt just cached pages. hey if ur only getting edge maybe its ur radio rom? i was getting that for awhile new rom and it went away
I'm using HSDPA, never 3G (it switches to HSDPA when 3G is available).. it's definitelly faster.. but I have battery charge issues and no traffic while on call. Perhaps 3G doesn't have those issues, I will try it out.
I do get EDGE sometimes, but it's usually same spots. I guess some towers don't have 3G i-net connection, only EDGE. Some places, however, I always get HSDPA (usually where signal strength is high)
sorry i forgot not all 3g is hsdpa i should of clarified we have hsdpa over here
I have the same problem. 3G or H data connections drop when a call is made or received. reconnects when call is over. Anyone with ideas if it is the phone, radio or rom?
Solved!! After some digging around in the forum I found out that setting a limit to disconnect your data connection will cause this problem. If your using kaisertweak go under "Data" set the "disconnect after" to disabled (default) instead of the 1 minute(advised). for some reason this will now allow data and voice to work together and wont drop your data connection while on call anymore. Good luck with your device.
using PDA plan on wap.cingular
ATT TILT
Dutty_s_WM6.1_Official_UC_5.2.19199_RTM
POLAR_Radio_1.58.21.23
kaisertweak setting
I have this feature setup just like you and voice and data still doesn't work together
pacmanpoop said:
I have the same problem. 3G or H data connections drop when a call is made or received. reconnects when call is over. Anyone with ideas if it is the phone, radio or rom?
Solved!! After some digging around in the forum I found out that setting a limit to disconnect your data connection will cause this problem. If your using kaisertweak go under "Data" set the "disconnect after" to disabled (default) instead of the 1 minute(advised). for some reason this will now allow data and voice to work together and wont drop your data connection while on call anymore. Good luck with your device.
using PDA plan on wap.cingular
ATT TILT
Dutty_s_WM6.1_Official_UC_5.2.19199_RTM
POLAR_Radio_1.58.21.23
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I had the same problem and this fixed my issue.
so for apparently no reason today my internet stopped connecting. When I go to connect it says -
Dialed: wap.cingular
it says underneath it there is no modem at the above number.
ummm.... I didn't change anything in my setting but for some reason it won't connect to the 3G network. Any ideas here or do we know whats going on?
thanks for the help.
l3urton32 said:
so for apparently no reason today my internet stopped connecting. When I go to connect it says -
Dialed: wap.cingular
it says underneath it there is no modem at the above number.
ummm.... I didn't change anything in my setting but for some reason it won't connect to the 3G network. Any ideas here or do we know whats going on?
thanks for the help.
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OK check this
START/SETTING/CONNECTIONS/MANAGE EXISTING CONNECTIONS/PROXY SETTINGS
and make sure that there is not a Check in the box next to :
THIS NETWORK USES A PROXY SERVER TO CONNECT TO THE INTERNET
This should do the trick I hope.
This always happens to me.
didnt work
no dice. its still giving me the same bounce back message that theres no modem at the above number. do i need to put a proxy server in the proxy server field? by the way this is a Tilt.
What program is trying to access the internet when this happens?
The same problem is occuring for me. I tried what Vol22002 suggested, but still can't connect. I was trying to access Internet Explorer.
Me Too - Atlanta
First thing this morning I tried to access the Internet with Opera and got the "Dialed: wap.cingular Cannot connect for unknown reason. ..." error. No recent changes to phone configs or software, worked fine after midnight last night. Power cycled and checked the usual stuff, still no data connection regardless of program.
Not Me Too Anymore - Atlanta
After not working from 0700 to 1050, I 'suddenly' have a working data connection. Go figure.
You'll probably find that this happens when your network is down. This happens very occasionally here and then I call my service provider to confirm this.
MACkjam said:
You'll probably find that this happens when your network is down. This happens very occasionally here and then I call my service provider to confirm this.
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I would say that is the most common reason for the problem the OP is having.
the netowrk isn't down....
My dad's phone (not a tilt) is connecting to the 3G network completely fine. I can't access the internet through any program...internet explorer, opera, google maps, livesearch, the weather tab on my today screen...nothing. I'm at a loss right now.
l3urton32 said:
My dad's phone (not a tilt) is connecting to the 3G network completely fine. I can't access the internet through any program...internet explorer, opera, google maps, livesearch, the weather tab on my today screen...nothing. I'm at a loss right now.
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So Disable the Proxy.
still nothing...with or without the proxy on.
I've been having problems with my data connection and phone service dropping out for the last 2 weeks even though I have changed nothing on the phone. I see an x by data connection and exclamation point by phone. I'm using Dutty's 6.1 official release and radio 1.58.26.20. Usually I can get back service by turning on and off airport mode, and the problem is very sporadic. Usually only when I really need the phone to work! Sometimes just switching between GSM and Auto mode for 3G will provide a temporary fix. I just tried disabling the HSDPA, and we'll see if that helps in a more permanent way. I wonder if AT&T is kicking people off of its network that are using HSDPA before it is supposed to be available. I called AT&T about the issue (w/o mentioning the cooked ROMs or HSDPA and they say I should return the phone for warranty but I don't want the hassle of restoring the old ROM. Any ideas?
is everyone posting here with issues from ATL? I am and have had the same, figured its just a radio issue and have been too lazy to change radios...for those that aren't lazy, i'd try that...
nope, I'm in Oregon. I'm of the opinion that AT&T has changed something about how they run their phone and data networks (perhaps in preparation for the 2nd gen iphone and HSDPA) that is randomly kicking people off their network.
legba_76 said:
nope, I'm in Oregon. I'm of the opinion that AT&T has changed something about how they run their phone and data networks (perhaps in preparation for the 2nd gen iphone and HSDPA) that is randomly kicking people off their network.
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There goes the iPhone messing with Smartphones again. First changes what a Smartphone should be. NOW messing with the network. Hulk Mad!
Nope its not just AT&T im experiencing the same problem over in the UK. Now my proxy is disabled and I know I have all the correct settings but still the error message "unable to connect to the receiving modem." It seems to have no pattern for this happening con we get correlation on what ROM's & radios everyone are using to see if its that
Hi, the search button has failed me. (Two posts in 2 years isnt too bad is it?)
My issues is.... accessing the internet over 3g works fine (and HPSDA) Internet, push mail everything... however, If I drop out of coverage at any time my internet connection vanishes as to be expected. However once connection is re-established still the Internet fails to work. It shows connected to 3G or HPSDA but all websites time out and Activesync reports waiting for network.
The fix is to go Start>Settings>Connections>Connections>Manage my existing connections.
Then I simply "Next" thru all the settings until I get to the end. Press Finish. The data connection drops and the re-establishes and Im working again!?!! Very Annoying!
Im running. Duttys 6.1 Rom (April) and a few bits a pieces (It happens with nothing installed also and with another ROM I tried in desperation!) T-Mobile UK
Does this sound like a Radio issue to you guys? Should I try another Radio or Ditch Dutys Rom? (Which I love)
Any help gratefully accepted.
If Downgraded to WM6 (T-Mobile stock ROM) and Im still having this issue. Very frustrated.
I've found a few posts from the US who seem to have the same sort of issue. 3g does not recover after dropping out of service.
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/...thread.id=88007&view=by_date_ascending&page=1
Not sure what to do now...
I've had the same sort of thing, I just disconnect (Long press on the red End call key or click on the 3G icon in the top bar and hit disconnect), and let it reconnect.
I have exactly the same issue with mine as well and its only started recently. I too have found the only way to fix it is to go through and 're setup' the connection. Disconnecting and reconnecting, rebooting all seem to do nothing...
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If Downgraded to WM6 (T-Mobile stock ROM) and Im still having this issue. Very frustrated.
I've found a few posts from the US who seem to have the same sort of issue. 3g does not recover after dropping out of service.
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/...thread.id=88007&view=by_date_ascending&page=1
Not sure what to do now...
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Are you abled to make a voice call over 3G...?!
Noxious Inc. said:
Are you abled to make a voice call over 3G...?!
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I think so... however, Im such a light "voice" user I never really notice... I'll double check the next time it goes. IE When I get a cuppa tea at the office..
marcopolo007uk said:
I think so... however, Im such a light "voice" user I never really notice... I'll double check the next time it goes. IE When I get a cuppa tea at the office..
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Which symbol is most of the time in the top of your screen G/E/3G/H...?! Check this one out also --> my 3G issue
I usually have a H (1 or 2 bars), when walking around my office this can drop to a 3G connection at times.
If I head to the basement, I drop to the Areial symbol or completely disconnect.... When the H or 3G connection starts again my Data connection fails as described above.
(However, I am able to make normal outgoing voice calls, not tried incoming yet)
Ok, I think I have a work around that seems to be working for me.
I set my BAND to GSM only as a test.... and it worked for the whole day, when I dropped into a NO SERVICE area the data connection dropped. When it recovered my data connection was back and working.
Obviously GSM is too slow, so I've now set my BAND settings to;
Network Type - WCDMA
UMTS Band - UMTS(2100+800)
And also diasabled HSDPA.
Currently everything seems ok... Now my connection does not drop from HSDPA>3G>G and back up again it seems to work fine?? Seems the issue may be with switching between the GSM standards??
I realise I wont get coverage in GSM only area's, but consistant data (Push Email) is just as important to me.
I've the same problem, but changing settings to gsm only is no solution. In this case I have to restart my Kaiser to get a new working connection.
I also have many Problems since updating to wm 6.1. Can I downgrade to the original german 6.0 or is there a really stable german 6.1 out there?
I've been getting the same problem as well for the past month or so.
Have been 'fixing' the problem by either putting the phone into airplane mode and back again, or rebooting the phone.
It's getting quite annoying though
Stopping the phone dropping to GSM seems to work for me. Leaving me with HDSPA and 3G.
I'm lucky to be in a good 3G coverage area I guess.
Im not sure who we should log this issue with? Carrier or HTC?
Are we all on T-Mobile having this issue?
i'm on o2 germany and a one day test with t-mobile didn#t show this error
with o2 i have this problem about three times a day
any new ideas since july ?
Sometimes i want to throw my phone away.
I'm still having the problem as well. Has anybody figured out a solution?
A strange problem..
I recently got GPRS activated on my sim..
When i try connecting on my Diamond, the E becomes active and it tries to connect.. But after abt 30 secs to a min, it says "Cannot connect for an unknown reason... etc etc.."
I initially thought it was a problem with the network..
But, when i put the same sim in my old Asus P525, set up the connection and tried to connect, the G became active and got connected within a few seconds!!!
From then i've been tryin to connect on my Diamond and have got connected about twice with E in the signal bar.. But that must've been some freak accident cos after a few hours i tried connecting w/o changing any of the settings and absolutely no luck!
I've tried almost all the cooked ROM's. And different radios.
Right now i'm on the Official WWE ROM 1.93.
Hard SPL 1.23 or 1.24.
And 1.00.25.03 Radio.
Any idea about what's wrong, guys?
Make sure you have the correct GPRS/WAP settings installed on your HTC Diamond.
There are different settings for Payandgo and Contract SIM cards.
You can try searching Google for them, or if you live in the UK try this website: http://www.filesaveas.com/gprs.html
prank1 said:
Make sure you have the correct GPRS/WAP settings installed on your HTC Diamond.
There are different settings for Payandgo and Contract SIM cards.
You can try searching Google for them, or if you live in the UK try this website: http://www.filesaveas.com/gprs.html
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prank1, the settings are right..
That's why it's working on my old phone..
I think it may have somethin to do with Edge and GPRS..
Maybe my service provider does not have Edge capabilities..
If i'm able to restrict my Diamond to try and connect to Edge and connect to GPRS instead, it may work..
Any way that could be done?
sanctifiedrust said:
A strange problem..
I recently got GPRS activated on my sim..
When i try connecting on my Diamond, the E becomes active and it tries to connect.. But after abt 30 secs to a min, it says "Cannot connect for an unknown reason... etc etc.."
I initially thought it was a problem with the network..
But, when i put the same sim in my old Asus P525, set up the connection and tried to connect, the G became active and got connected within a few seconds!!!
From then i've been tryin to connect on my Diamond and have got connected about twice with E in the signal bar.. But that must've been some freak accident cos after a few hours i tried connecting w/o changing any of the settings and absolutely no luck!
I've tried almost all the cooked ROM's. And different radios.
Right now i'm on the Official WWE ROM 1.93.
Hard SPL 1.23 or 1.24.
And 1.00.25.03 Radio.
Any idea about what's wrong, guys?
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My bad - didnt see the 'set up connection' bit so I assumed you didnt have the correct settings.
I had this problem once but it went away with a ROM upgrade - that was when I had the XDA Orbit.
The problem may be that my phone does not try connecting to GPRS and directly tries to connect Edge..
Isn't the connection supposed to be G-E-3G, in that order?
Is there any way i can prevent my phone tryin to connect to Edge?
Can i make GPRS as first preference instead?
Anybody? Please?
From what i heard my diamond doesn't support US( or Canada which is where i live) 3g because of diamonds hardware so that's why it only connects to edge which is really slow... anyways to connect i had to phone rogers my wireless provider and they gave me my username and password which was needed to connect online. So i'm guessing it's the same for you if you go to
Settings > Connections > rogers internet( for mine) > Manage existing connection
from there you'll go to the next page where you can input your info.
NekciuQ said:
From what i heard my diamond doesn't support US( or Canada which is where i live) 3g because of diamonds hardware so that's why it only connects to edge which is really slow... anyways to connect i had to phone rogers my wireless provider and they gave me my username and password which was needed to connect online. So i'm guessing it's the same for you if you go to
Settings > Connections > rogers internet( for mine) > Manage existing connection
from there you'll go to the next page where you can input your info.
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Hey.. That doesn't seem to be the prob since i can get it to work on my old PDA with the same settings..
That phone gets connected and it shows 'G'.
What might help me is somethin to block my phone tryin to connect to Edge before it even tries to connect to GPRS..
I don't think that's practical, but wishful thinking..
I've had the same issue with my Diamond, I know for sure that the network settings are correct as it sometime connects fine and other times I keep getting the "Cannot connect for an unknown reason..." error- only a soft reset would resolve the issue. Seems a bit random but am trying to monitor what is causing it.
It always used to work fine on my Hermes. BTW I'm using Dutty's ROM on my Diamond.
sh500 said:
I've had the same issue with my Diamond, I know for sure that the network settings are correct as it sometime connects fine and other times I keep getting the "Cannot connect for an unknown reason..." error- only a soft reset would resolve the issue. Seems a bit random but am trying to monitor what is causing it.
It always used to work fine on my Hermes. BTW I'm using Dutty's ROM on my Diamond.
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Yeah.. Sounds almost like my prob..
Could it be a rare manufacturing defect sort of thing thats affecting our phones?
Cos nobody else seems to have such an issue..
And i keep changing between Dutty's and Panosha's ROM..
I don't know if it's same problem you have ,
but I had kinda same problem..
I found that the lame ActiveSync change the proxy of my internet connection and put in the internet connection proxy my local proxy at work, even I removed the proxy it didn't help (dunno why) , just by adding new connection from the advance and adding new name etc.. it solve the problem...
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And i keep changing between Dutty's and Panosha's ROM..
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I've only had my Diamond (MDA Compact IV) for only about 3-4 weeks. I was so keen to flash to a different ROM that I did so within 10-15 hours of receiving the device; my point being that I didn't get to try out my data connection on the stock T-Mobile ROM.
The connection seems to be fine today...!
arix said:
I don't know if it's same problem you have ,
but I had kinda same problem..
I found that the lame ActiveSync change the proxy of my internet connection and put in the internet connection proxy my local proxy at work, even I removed the proxy it didn't help (dunno why) , just by adding new connection from the advance and adding new name etc.. it solve the problem...
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Hmmm.. I don't think i have the exact same problem, but somethin similar..
I'll try adding a new connection..
Thanx..
As I know something with Activesync **** the GPRS connection..
Let us know if you solve your problem with new connection...
Ok.. Note the "E" in the first pic and in the second..
The first one is 'clear' and the second one is 'hazy'!
When the "E" is 'clear', my GPRS connects!!!
I found this out after putting a different sim card of a different network and connecting..
When i put the other sim card, i got 'clear' "E" and GPRS worked..
Then i put back my old sim card and on switching on the phone, the "E" was still 'clear'!!
On tryin to connect, it worked!!!! Even after several manual diconnections, it worked only cos the "E" was still 'clear'..
Then i reset my phone with my sim card and got the 'hazy' "E".. And back to square one.. Not connecting..
My question is, what does this 'hazy' "E" mean and how do i make it 'clear'???! Only then my GPRS seem to work!
Help!!!!!!
This is how it is when connected properly..
Cannot connect for an unknown reason
I also had this problem. To make my story short, I have a data plan with Claro Peru which I have been using with my Touch (not 3G phone) with no problems. 3 days ago I acquired my Diamond 3G US version. When attempted to connect to the HSDPA I got the error mentioned here (cannot connect for..., sometimes the "H" symbol was difusse [like in the picture in a previous post in this thread], etc). The root cause of this was that my data plan only have GPRS/EDGE activated, my network provider (Claro) differentiates 2G internet vs 3G (so no HSDPA/UMTS until subscribing to a new plan).
The **SOLUTION** for my case was to select under "Select your network type" the option GSM (Start, Settings, Phone, Band tap). The option Auto was the default. Thus restricting to EDGE my data connection (which is according to my plan). Also, on the same tap I selected UMTS(850+1900)+GSM(850+1900) under "Select you GSM/UMTS band". You have to select here the frequencies according to your country.
P.S. The problem was the same before and after I updagred my ROM to RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE_2.03.405.3_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.51.25.26_1.09.25.23_Ship. So, two things to mention here. 1, A ROM upgrade is not the solution for this problem (in my case). 2, you can upgrade the Diamond US version (my is DIAM110) with a WWE ROM upgrade.
Hope this help someone.
dach said:
I also had this problem. To make my story short, I have a data plan with Claro Peru which I have been using with my Touch (not 3G phone) with no problems. 3 days ago I acquired my Diamond 3G US version. When attempted to connect to the HSDPA I got the error mentioned here (cannot connect for..., sometimes the "H" symbol was difusse [like in the picture in a previous post in this thread], etc). The root cause of this was that my data plan only have GPRS/EDGE activated, my network provider (Claro) differentiates 2G internet vs 3G (so no HSDPA/UMTS until subscribing to a new plan).
The **SOLUTION** for my case was to select under "Select your network type" the option GSM (Start, Settings, Phone, Band tap). The option Auto was the default. Thus restricting to EDGE my data connection (which is according to my plan). Also, on the same tap I selected UMTS(850+1900)+GSM(850+1900) under "Select you GSM/UMTS band". You have to select here the frequencies according to your country.
P.S. The problem was the same before and after I updagred my ROM to RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE_2.03.405.3_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.51.25.26_1.09.25.23_Ship. So, two things to mention here. 1, A ROM upgrade is not the solution for this problem (in my case). 2, you can upgrade the Diamond US version (my is DIAM110) with a WWE ROM upgrade.
Hope this help someone.
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I have the Diamond on T-Mobile in the UK with the web'n'walk plan (HSDPA enabled - although not the higher-speed "plus" version). This happens to me every single time I'm in a GPRS-only area - when I have HSDPA coverage, it connects fine. In order to get it to connect, I have to open the Comm Manager, turn off the data connection and re-activate it.
Before anyone asks, my connection settings are all correct and I've tried numerous different main and radio ROMs - nothing makes a difference. I'll give this a shot, see if it makes a difference.
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I have the Diamond on T-Mobile in the UK with the web'n'walk plan (HSDPA enabled - although not the higher-speed "plus" version). This happens to me every single time I'm in a GPRS-only area - when I have HSDPA coverage, it connects fine. In order to get it to connect, I have to open the Comm Manager, turn off the data connection and re-activate it.
Before anyone asks, my connection settings are all correct and I've tried numerous different main and radio ROMs - nothing makes a difference. I'll give this a shot, see if it makes a difference.
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OK, I would try the option Auto for the "Select your network type" so the phone auto negotiates the technology in use (between GPRS or the much better HSDPA), but change the option for the bands according to your country.
Let us know the results!
This might be a silly question, but does anyone know if the G1 will be able to access the web if you live in an area where 3G is not available yet? I live north of Los Angeles (who has 3G) in Bakersfield and we don't have it yet. I am hoping that I was not an idiot to preorder the phone and then not be able to use all the cool web features.
Thanks in advance,
Jamie
it should still work on the EDGE network
From my understanding it will work with GPRS, Edge, and 3g so you shouldn't have any problems bro by the way I understand the concern.
With a 1150ma battery, GPS, "big" screen etc, 3G will just drain the battery even quicker.
I will not worry about 3G until an extended battery is released- and the fact that 3G will not be in my market for a year of so.
aad4321 said:
Hey guys i have a htc wing now, and it does not have a gps. It looks like the gps for this phone is one of the main highlights, because it uses it for a lot of applications. Does anyone know what the gps strength will be like? Will it work will in a building, it do i have the be in direct light for like ten minuites to get a signal?
Anyone with a htc device with a gps already, does it work well?
I hear the android is a-gps, so mabye it will have the ability to somewhat work well when in a pocket, or building.....
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Time for a lesson on GPS... It uses satellites in the sky, and you need a view of a certain amount of satellites to find your location (4 will find you but not very accurately, the more the better). If you're in a building, and not right next to a window, no GPS will ever find your location, ever. That's like asking if your internet will work if the ethernet cable is unplugged from the back of your computer and you don't have wifi, it goes against the entire idea of how it functions.
Now, as for the quality of the HTC GPS receiver... People have complained about GPS lag, but I maintain my opinion that it's completely software related, my Fuze had none whatsoever. You don't need to be in sunlight, just have enough clear sky that it can get a reading from the satellites. I've taken trips with the Fuze even on very cloudy days and it took a little longer to get a lock (5-10 mins, it locks in like 30 seconds to a minute with clear skies) but once it had my position, it stayed true. All of the upcoming HTC devices use A-GPS, by the way. Diamond, Touch Pro, Xperia, G1...
aad4321 said:
WHAAAT? you dont want to use 3g? lol in my opinion thats 50 percent of the phones features.
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He's using the battery draining as an excuse, something to keep him from pulling his hair out because he won't have 3G for another year. Anyone who's used a phone for data features on both networks knows EDGE doesn't hold a candle to 3G.
As for the original post, yes, it will give you all of the same data features on EDGE as on 3G.
The big thing with A-GPS is that it's mainly used to increase the startup speed of your GPS. Instead of waiting 10 minutes to download the almanac of the satellites in the sky from the GPS sats, it downloads the data over your data connection, using the basis of which cell site you're connected to for determining your rough location. This way it only takes about 30 seconds to get a fix instead of much longer.
The sensitivity of the GPS on phones has been fairly good as far as i've seen on devices like the Tilt and such, so I don't see why a phone with such a heavy emphasis on location-based apps would have a sub-par GPS setup. Here's hoping things work well.
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He's using the battery draining as an excuse, something to keep him from pulling his hair out because he won't have 3G for another year. Anyone who's used a phone for data features on both networks knows EDGE doesn't hold a candle to 3G.
As for the original post, yes, it will give you all of the same data features on EDGE as on 3G.
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Thanks to one and all!!! I am looking forward to my G1 and retiring my Wing.
Black93300ZX said:
He's using the battery draining as an excuse, something to keep him from pulling his hair out because he won't have 3G for another year. Anyone who's used a phone for data features on both networks knows EDGE doesn't hold a candle to 3G.
As for the original post, yes, it will give you all of the same data features on EDGE as on 3G.
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3g doesnt burn that much battery unless your using it constantly like as a primary internet for your computer. also when you put your phone in sleep mode it isnt runnig in the background
haitiankid4lyf said:
3g doesnt burn that much battery unless your using it constantly like as a primary internet for your computer. also when you put your phone in sleep mode it isnt runnig in the background
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Exactly... But when you're without 3G, I guess you try to justify why it's not as good, and that's what he came up with. It's like everything though, people on here try to justify why the iPhone isn't as good as the Diamond/Touch Pro, truth be told it's better in many aspects but comes short in many as well.
3g data transfer?
ok i currently have the tmo wing.. and i can connect my lappy to the tmo data network via usb port.. will i be able to do this with the g1?yes/no maybe?
iife_aint_easy said:
ok i currently have the tmo wing.. and i can connect my lappy to the tmo data network via usb port.. will i be able to do this with the g1?yes/no maybe?
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I choose D... all of the above
No... it will not work out of the box.
Yes/maybe... it should work someday soon unless HTC/T-Mobile have somehow disabled that ability in hardware.
As soon as I get the phone I will be working on it on the Linux side (not an actual internet sharing app... more of a route/iptables script) and I am sure someone will work on a java solution (although a kernel solution would be faster). There was an application for the iPhone that provided internet sharing but it was banned from apple store and Google has said they won't do that so I think it should be here soon.
problems with Wireless (3g and wifi)
does anybody else have problems with the 3g?
i have tmobile and i didnt select the option for only 2g but my 3g keeps going in and out even when im in the same spot it'll go from 3g to Edge for no reason.
also does anybody have problem conecting to wifi?
i have a linksys wireless n (WRT300N) router, the ssid is visible and uts using wep security but when ever i try to connect to it it says out of range or it just stops trying to connect Please Help
haitiankid4lyf said:
does anybody else have problems with the 3g?
i have tmobile and i didnt select the option for only 2g but my 3g keeps going in and out even when im in the same spot it'll go from 3g to Edge for no reason.
also does anybody have problem conecting to wifi?
i have a linksys wireless n (WRT300N) router, the ssid is visible and uts using wep security but when ever i try to connect to it it says out of range or it just stops trying to connect Please Help
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I have an issue with my G1 WIFI connection. If i broadcast my SSID I connect with no problems. but if i disable the broadcast it will not connect, and this is with me manually putting in the connections into the phone.
I called TMobile but they said i needed to call HTC. they didn't have a solution.
BTW, I have no WEP enabled. I just disable the SSID broadcast.
I just connected to my Linksys router with WPA2 and had 3G running, connected no problem.
Haitiankid: try entering the details of your network manually and seeing if it will connect then. Also, as for the 3G fading in and out, are you in a week signal area for 3G?
wifi working
I got my wifi to work. It was my routers fault. What I did was in went into my routers settings by typing 192.168.1.1 and entered 'admin' (no quotes) and no password. Once in my settings I changed my brocasting type from b&g mixed to all mixed changed frequency to auto, changed network key from shared to open and wifi started working. I don't know if all those steps were neccesary but it worked for me. Hope it works for some else.
As for the 3g it seems to be getting better
for those of you with the 3g/edge switching problem...
Hey, if uve got the 3g switching to edge back and forth continuously, its likely because you didnt get a new SIM card when u got the g1. It simply means you have an old SIM card that doesnt support 3g well, call tmobile up tell them your situation, theyve given most people a free new SIM card thats more compatible.
drewernxc said:
Hey, if uve got the 3g switching to edge back and forth continuously, its likely because you didnt get a new SIM card when u got the g1. It simply means you have an old SIM card that doesnt support 3g well, call tmobile up tell them your situation, theyve given most people a free new SIM card thats more compatible.
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I don't think that's the case. I've had the same SIM card since 2000, no problems like this. If any SIM is too old to support 3G, I'd think one made 8 years ago would definitely be the case.
It sounds like he's in a bad coverage area, which could be lots of things. There is a coverage map on the T-Mo website, don't know if it shows 3G. Or it could be the building he's in. My phones have never worked at my grandmother's house. I get full bars on the front porch, and full bars the second I get out the back door, but no signal in the house itself. Even relatives on other networks get little to no coverage inside the house. Probably the really really old insulation and building materials are blocking the signal. At my last apartment I only had a good signal on the corner of my bed, and that disappeared when new neighbors moved in upstairs.
These are radio waves, which aren't foolproof or perfect, they encounter all kinds of interference. Nothings going to be as secure and consistant as a wired connection. Nature of the beast, unfortunately.
haitiankid4lyf said:
I got my wifi to work. It was my routers fault. What I did was in went into my routers settings by typing 192.168.1.1 and entered 'admin' (no quotes) and no password. Once in my settings I changed my brocasting type from b&g mixed to all mixed changed frequency to auto, changed network key from shared to open and wifi started working. I don't know if all those steps were neccesary but it worked for me. Hope it works for some else.
As for the 3g it seems to be getting better
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Careful dude, with the security set to open anyone within range (neighbors, wardrivers, etc.) can use your wifi to get on the internet. Try using WPA or WPA2 security, but leaving it all mixed and frequency at auto.