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opera 9.5 beta official ;) (version: 9.51b1)

Opera Mobile 9.5 Beta
http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/download/
version: 9.51b1

brumle80 said:
Opera Mobile 9.5 Beta
http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/download/
version: 9.51b1
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I have tried this version, I am not so happy with it. I find it rather slow and the zooming in zooming out feels tedious. I may be spoiled because I am also using an iPod Touch with the Safari Mobile browser but are there any previous builds of the Opera Mobile 9.5 browser that have faster performance than this?
I am working on a Samsung i780 so I have a lot of power behind the phone, I just don't find this version jaw-dropping.

Okay this looks great. Just tested it on the Diamond and it's fast, seems stable and fixes the "black whole problem" at least on the sites I had problems with.
One drawback: it doesn't seem to support the g-sensor out of the box. however we might be able to work around that with gsen... didn't try that though.
I guess this is a real candidate for some cooked ROMs...
Edit: This thing is REALLY fast. We might probably want to work on how to replace the original opera on a diamond with this version?
Cheers,
Alex

Will installing this overwrite the default Opera diamond browser?

You can install it on the internal storage - so your pre-installed opera should be left untouched. As for the default browser setting - I didn't check that. But you should be able to switch back if desired as well.

Okay from some testing I can report the following issues:
Does not use old Opera's bookmarks, so when overwriting old opera there's no way to sync bookmarks with Manila (some tiny application might be written to do the job however I guess)
Occasionly prevents device standby (even when manually pressing the standby button) - getting out of opera helps
At least in my setup it keeps starting itself when exited - that might however be a result of me playing around to replace original opera with new one
The most noticable bug from opera's official known-issues list is the non-working re-flow of text paragraphs. instead the paragraphs are _always_ sized to fit the zoomed-in screen
Auto-rotation is not implemented out of the box - I didn't test, yet if GSen would do the trick (for some of us disabled auto-rotation might actually be a plus ;-)
Some of these issues obviously have to be fixed for a final - but I assume they will do so until the final release.
On the bright side we have:
Definitely faster
Looks like it has lower memory consumption (not measured though) - this actually makes the auto-restart thing I experience acceptable for me - I simply keep it running in the background at the moment
The black-hole problem seems to be fixed
Once the issues have been worked out this will be a huge step forward in mobile browsing on the diamond - even compared to the current version of opera mobile!
If anyone else is testing this software I'd be happy to hear some feedback and maybe solutions found to the issues I mentioned.
Cheers,
Alex

Does it also support Flash based websites? (containing flash video's?)

i also tried to install it both on the device & internal storage, but it just won't start the new version... even when i start the program from the program list it will start the old version...
i guess the beta version wanted to prevent the resizing of the paragraph while zooming in some text pages, but i do like it coz the zooming in & out is now more precise...
anyone have any idea how to replace the old opera with this new beta...
also another problem encountered is the pop up of the input keyboard... it will automatically switch to the default windows style even if i set it to full qwerty keyboard...
i hope htc will implement it soon or opera could release the final version soon, this browser is the best so far~

Here is the Thread containing the latest Opera build, was released yesterday I think. Anyway, its miles better than this beta, go check it out!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401643

not impressed, seems much slower than what im currently using

find it in the file manager to launch it.
I find it has a keyboard issue... it keeps reverting back to small qwerty.
I uninstalled it and now my original opera takes longer to load up. (now those progress blocks have appeared?)

FH1 said:
find it in the file manager to launch it.
I find it has a keyboard issue... it keeps reverting back to small qwerty.
I uninstalled it and now my original opera takes longer to load up. (now those progress blocks have appeared?)
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i need to do the samething to launch it;
the keyboard issue is really annoying but the performance is better; i like the skin of it
i didn't have that problem... i tried installing it on internal mem & device & my diamond opera is still working

Jin187 said:
Here is the Thread containing the latest Opera build, was released yesterday I think. Anyway, its miles better than this beta, go check it out!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401643
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Have to agree, build 1938 is *way* better than this one, it's a lot faster and far more stable. At least on a Samsung i780 which is what I used to test it.
I also tried it on an iMate Jasjar but the build had problems working with the qwerty keyboard -- when you try to type it will take in one character then close the SIP, so you can no longer enter any letters. Horrible bug, did not have this problem with any other build I tried so far. But it works fine, only problem is I have to use the SIP, and the point of getting a Universal is to have the QWERTY!

screen rotate problem

Please don't flame. I have searched for an hour, and cannot find the correct search strings to give me my solution. I know it is here....oh where oh where has my little fix gone.....
When using opera 9.5, the screen sometimes stays stuck in landscape mode. Please point a brother....
Pine
PS: tried opera landscape fix, opera screen rotate, opera 9.5 problem and several more..

Hi,
same problem here

Don't forget its beta ...give it time guys...give it time

Centralkid92 said:
Don't forget its beta ...give it time guys...give it time
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Naw, I swear I saw a fix...perhaps in a ROM thread. But be damned if I can find it again. Maybe someone will run across this thread and show the way to the solution.

pinetreehater said:
Naw, I swear I saw a fix...perhaps in a ROM thread. But be damned if I can find it again. Maybe someone will run across this thread and show the way to the solution.
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I remember it too, (i think) but i've been looking with no luck! ive had the same problem for quite some time, and it only happens sometimes....but i have to reset everytime

I've seen the keyboard popping up fix but not the other fix...i would be interested too

I don't ever remember seeing a fix for this...maybe I missed it though.

lino8419 said:
I remember it too, (i think) but i've been looking with no luck! ive had the same problem for quite some time, and it only happens sometimes....but i have to reset everytime
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this is not a fix but you could go into settings>system>screen>portrait instead of soft reset each time.

Yes fjc3, this is what I have been doing...except HTC home has a shortcut in the frequent programs tab (4th tab).
Still a little frustrating, especially if you flip open your slider every time you want to input text. I prefer to browse with it closed.

Goes landscape then fails to return to portrait
Running 6.1 as of last night. Open keyboard, goes to landscape properly but then screen fonts and HTC new default with HTC Home gets 'bigger' so that I can't see the entire screen. If I un-check HTC Home on the Today screen, open Today and then re-check HTC Home, it comes back correctly.
Any clues??

Had the same problem with Opera 9.5 tried a few different versions and got this one to work OBX-Opera_9[1].5.Build1957.WWE
If you go to this post download the Extended Cabs RAR file and unzip the cab is in there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428528

I've had the same problem with just about every opera released on this forum. I tried the beta 2 from the opera website and it did not have the screen rotation problems on exit. Problem was, it didn't have many of the features from the later versions.
Download the latest version from www.opera.com. The latest build for beta 2 posted on their website without the screen rotation bug is 9.51 beta build 2723

Skyfire on FUZE errors?

I sent the request from skyfire website to change device and do an ota reload of the software. When i load it up on the stock rom it is only showing on the left half the screen with the touchflo hompage on the right side.. Is anyone else having this issue, or is there a setting to get this to work on the phone? Thanks for the help!

gadgetdad said:
I sent the request from skyfire website to change device and do an ota reload of the software. When i load it up on the stock rom it is only showing on the left half the screen with the touchflo hompage on the right side.. Is anyone else having this issue, or is there a setting to get this to work on the phone? Thanks for the help!
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I'm having the same issue. I don't think this version of Skyfire is compatible with VGA screens.

Glad to know i am not the only one with the issue. I went as far as a hard reset to see if there was an issue on the initial configuration.

I am pretty sure skyfire does not yet support the vga screen.

iboj007 said:
I'm having the same issue. I don't think this version of Skyfire is compatible with VGA screens.
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It's not. They have said that they plan to release a VGA version but I don't think they've announced a timetable yet.

you need to open skyfire with you hardware keyboard open to get it to work. Thats the only way to get skyfire on the touch pro as of now.

please keep the post updated if anyone gets Skyfile to work

I am also having this issue.. I was about to go search the Diamond forums and the Skyfire forums... I could have sworn people said they had Skyfire working on the Touch Pro (Non-FUZE) like Black?
Edit: Nevermind, just have to run Skyfire with the keyboard out.

Good job guys, the workaround is to start it up w/ the keyboard out. Thx

I was able to download and install v7081 just a little bit ago. Seems to work perfectly fine for me up until the point you click out of it and run it in the background and try to go back to it then the screen goes half Skyfire, half Today screen.

No go for me. If I start it with the keyboard extended, still just uses half the screen. Any ideas?
FIXED! I was having password problems. Once I got it fixed, I logged in, and then restarted skyfire, then it worked! Still QVGA resolution, but at least it can play flash, etc.!
Right on!

Opera won't restart after being closed

Hi,
I've tried a couple of the Opera cabs available on d0ugie's BlownFuze site:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446306
and I've found that they work fine the first time they are launched, but once they've been closed (I used the GScroll function mapped to a double tap to close the app), I couldn't re-open it.
I don't know whether it's specifically down to the way I'm closing it - I've restored my Touch Pro now, so can't re-test easily, but the stock version (v9.5 build 1522) supplied with my v1.90.00.00 HTC ROM has no such problem.
Anybody else seen this behaviour, and have any suggestions?
Cheers,
Steve.

I think I had such an issue. This was basically that Opera didn't close. If you have a good Task Manager you'll notice that one of the processes related to Opera still hangs around. If you kill it you'll be able to open new Opera explorer.
I had such issues with custom roms and new Opera builds. I now have a factory rom and it seems to be working fine.

ok - thanks.
It was probably how I was closing it, using GScroll that was the issue. If I venture down that path again, and the problem still exists, I'll probably write a program to shut Opera down completely.
Cheers,
Steve.

R3AA smooth scrolling in Opera with Optical Joystick?

In R2AA i've get used to the optical joystick (d-pad) to slide really smooth through internet pages in the Opera Browser. A few days ago I've upgraded to R3AA and suddenly the smooth scrolling is gone. Sliding with the optical joystick will let the page jumps (in pretty big steps) instead of smooth kinetic scrolling. So scrolling with the optical joystick isn't that effective and precise anymore...
I've done a lot of settings by enter opera:config into the address bar, but that didn't do the trick. I've also used the "solution" in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444694 but they had a different problem (the optical joystick just moves a highlight between the links on the page), so that didn't work for me.
Does someone knows a solution? Maybe by posting the input.ini or opera.ini file from a Generic R2AA phone will help.

I am also having this same issue.
Opera flips through pages rather than scroll smoothly.
And "smooth scrolling" in opera config is enabled btw.

A friend of mine has the same issue. It was fine after he installed R3A, but after a couple of days he noticed the "jumping". I guess some fo the programs that you have installed messed Opera up?

I thought, just bring the thread back to the front
I don't think it has to do with any other program I've installed. I installed exactly the same programs after I've upgraded from R2A to R3A... But on the other hand, if it worked smoothly for a couple of days after upgraded to R3A (as you mentioned orelsi), and than suddenly the smooth scrolling in Opera was gone.... hhmmm that's a different story.
All I want is my smooth scrolling back, but I don't wanna hard reset my device to test it... it's a hell of a job with all the installations and settings and stuff.
I still believe by posting the input.ini or opera.ini file from a Generic R2AA phone (maybe) will help. Or if someone else have an other suggestion?

Jeecobs said:
I thought, just bring the thread back to the front
I don't think it has to do with any other program I've installed. I installed exactly the same programs after I've upgraded from R2A to R3A.
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Sigh...facepalm... Just like he said it is software incompatibility. How could you not understand that the programs cause it? Obviously you installed the same programs and obviously the programs conflict in the new firmware. And once again, obviously the programs conflicted in R3A but not R2A. Sigh... think people...think!

Has nothing to do with software incompatibility. Fresh install of UK generic ROM R3A. And the same thing is occurs with opera's scrolling. Its not smooth as it used to with the previews ROMs.

rotsu said:
Has nothing to do with software incompatibility. Fresh install of UK generic ROM R3A. And the same thing is occurs with opera's scrolling. Its not smooth as it used to with the previews ROMs.
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Thank you rotsu
poetryrocksalot said:
Sigh...facepalm... Just like he said it is software incompatibility. How could you not understand that the programs cause it? Obviously you installed the same programs and obviously the programs conflict in the new firmware. And once again, obviously the programs conflicted in R3A but not R2A. Sigh... think people...think!
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It isn't that I won't THINK about it! How could you not understand that the programs NOT cause it?
Ok, to be honest, I'm not sure what's the cause and I'm not sure if it's a program conflict in R3A, but I don't like the way you use the word "obviously". Obviously with a fresh R3A ROM installation the same thing occurs...
I've also installed Opera 9.7 beta, but first I don't like the version right now (text is pretty blurry) and second, scrolling with the optical joystick jumps between links instead of free scrolling.

I have just updated mine to the new rom and opera is also jumping about in big blocks now instead of smooth scrolling like it used to.
Has anybody found a fix for this yet?

You can still have smooth scrolling by using your finger to scroll the screen