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random freezing on tilt

hey guys, i have an unlocked tilt, flashed with the htc rom, and for some reason it randomly locks up.. i especially notice it with PIE, but also with other programs. i usually have to wait 5-6 seconds, and then it works again. the weird thing is that from what i remember when windows mobile freezes up, and you click a bunch of different buttons, as soon as it un-freezes, all those buttons are pushed, however in this case, no matter what i press, when it un-freezes, it just stays where it is.. im beginning to wonder if i just have a defective screen or something, but i dont remember this happening with the tilt rom tho... any help? thanks
omar

I have the exact same problems...

same here, did it when i had the att rom on it also.

I *had* the same problem. I did a Clear Storage, and everything is fine now. I sware my problems started after I loaded the HTC Home plug-in. After I did the clear storage, my problems went away.
I'm running the Tilt on the Cingular ROM at this time for what it's worth.
I didn't run the HTC ROM long enough to see if it did it also.

Clear Storage
What does clear storage really do?

fredm said:
What does clear storage really do?
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Basically resets it back to how it was when you first turned it on...no contacts, no apps (other than what it shipped with), etc. Basically a factory reset.

If you used kaiser tweak to set your ie temp files to storage card, this will make your kaiser freeze. set back to default.

My problems happend with the HTC rom, and are still happening (although the freeze time is shorter) with the Helmi ROM. I didn't have the ATT rom on long enough to notice it.
Are any of you guys using the Shogun threaded SMS app?

Threaded app works great. Its most likely that you tried to set your Pocket IE storage cache to your storage card. this is a known issue. I believe there's a fix around, but without that fix, you can't put your IE cache on the Storage Card. Set it back to your main memory and you should be OK.

jomo25 said:
Threaded app works great. Its most likely that you tried to set your Pocket IE storage cache to your storage card. this is a known issue. I believe there's a fix around, but without that fix, you can't put your IE cache on the Storage Card. Set it back to your main memory and you should be OK.
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Thats not likely, seeing as how I've *never* done that... ever. And the problem happens outside of IE also.

BoostedSR20 said:
Thats not likely, seeing as how I've *never* done that... ever. And the problem happens outside of IE also.
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Are you using the HTC home screen? I'm wondering if that may be a culprit in more than one issue I'm seeing...

Are you using blackberry connect? I was using version 4.0.0.90 then switched to 4.0.0.84 and my random freezing went away.

HTC home screen = always
Blackberry connect = never
Every rom I used with my 8525 had the HTC home screen, never had freezing issues this bad. Although I do remember having some...

OK, did you use the official HTC ROM? Or one of the cooked variants?

I have witnessed this problem on ATT ROM, HTC ROM, and a cooked ROM. I wonder what is causing this.

jomo25 said:
OK, did you use the official HTC ROM? Or one of the cooked variants?
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All of the above.

Same here with Helmi's Big Storage Clean Rom.

My ATT Rom with schen's HTC homescreen plug-in freezes too, although I think it did before I put it on. It won't accept screen taps for maybe 10 seconds or so, then resumes running fine.

I just performed a hard reset and am starting from scratch. My problems are directly related to PIE and large websites. I did that webview.dll hack thatI just did it to try it out, but I think that is when my major issues started happening. I'll see how things go now with the stock AT&T Rom without customization.

I've been noticing the same behavior, but I noticed it when I was running the stock AT&T ROM, so I'm not 100% positive it's related to HTC Home.
At first I thought it was just really crappy screen recognition, but I've been noticing it with the hard buttons as well, so I don't think it's related to the screen.

Frozen Kaiser

Hi all. I seem to have the same recuuring issue at least twice a day with my kaiser.
For no apparant reason it keeps freezing on me, and each time always displays the same fuzzy graphics on the title bar (see attachment).
Has anybody come accross this issue? What shall I do?
Thanks in advance.

new rom =\...master reset..idk

Novice Gadget Boy said:
Hi all. I seem to have the same recuuring issue at least twice a day with my kaiser.
For no apparant reason it keeps freezing on me, and each time always displays the same fuzzy graphics on the title bar (see attachment).
Has anybody come accross this issue? What shall I do?
Thanks in advance.
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Do you have a custom rom or a stock rom?
What rom are you using?
What radio are you using?
Can you tell us the available memory you have?
Do you have a task manager installed, and are you making sure everything is closed prior to opening new programs?
That information will be helpful in figuring out what's going on. Let us know, thanks! =)
If you don't have one of the newer custom roms, you're pretty much guaranteed to get an answer of "install hardspl / new radio / rom".
If you have a stock rom from HTC... you're gonna hear "reflash the phone with the stock rom, and if it still does it.. return the phone, or flash it with a custom one".
How much warranty do you have left?
Can you also give us a list of what programs you have installed, and which ones are usually running?

Pictures part 1
Thanks for the quick response. There are a lot of questions so i took a bunch of screen shots. Hope this helps. Let me know if you need anymore detail.
See second post as i am unable to post all pics in one post.
Thankyou

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I am also running battibar in the background.

Well, from what i gather from the screenshots you posted everything should be working fine. There's no reason it should be freezing up, unless there is some sort of conflict, or corrupt program.
Have you noticed that it happens after opening a certain program, or is it really random?

Oh, I take it that's a stock rom right? You never flashed the phone, you just installed individual cab files, right?

nimda0 said:
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....Have you noticed that it happens after opening a certain program, or is it really random?
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It seems to be random but then on the other hand ive noticed that it usually happens when its been sitting on the charger and idle (for example, i'll pop it on the charger before bed, and when i wake up in the morning its frozen). Also it happens at work when its connected to my pc via activesync and after i havent been doing anything for a while.

nimda0 said:
Oh, I take it that's a stock rom right? You never flashed the phone, you just installed individual cab files, right?
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Yes, thats correct.

Novice Gadget Boy said:
It seems to be random but then on the other hand ive noticed that it usually happens when its been sitting on the charger and idle (for example, i'll pop it on the charger before bed, and when i wake up in the morning its frozen). Also it happens at work when its connected to my pc via activesync and after i havent been doing anything for a while.
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Well... it could be overheating. If that's the case it's gotta go back. How much warranty do you have left on the phone before it ends?

Novice Gadget Boy said:
Yes, thats correct.
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Well, just like I posted above. Everything seems fine... and since you are using the stock rom you only have a few choices. You can start uninstalling programs 1 by 1... (noting which ones you uninstall so you can put them back on). Go 1/2 a day, and see if you still have the problem after uninstalling each program. That will help narrow down the theory about corrupt programs or conflicts.
Another option, is reloading the stock rom from HTC... and don't install anything. See how that works for a day... if it's fine, then you can start installing programs.... then if the problem occurs, you know it's got to be something with one of the program you've put on there.
Then you could always just uninstall everything, reset everything, and send it back and get a new phone.... but if it's the software causing the issue, and you put the same software back on the new phone.. you'll just be right back in the same situation again.
If you have warranty time left, i'd uninstall everything, and demand a new phone because of teh issues you are having. Onec you get it, then i'd flash with a custom rom... just make sure you do it right. =)
EDIT: Hell even if you don't have any warranty left, i'd STILL flash with a custom rom. I can't even begin to tell you how much better my phone runs now that it's flashed compared to before. I was using the stock ROM before from HTC, i had some issues... it was a bit laggy... so i reflashed with the stock rom, limited the software i put on it.. etc. etc.... still ran like dog piss... so i flashed, and well..... you get the picture. It's awesome now.

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Well... it could be overheating. If that's the case it's gotta go back. How much warranty do you have left on the phone before it ends?
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10 months. But i dont feel any heat whatsoever, and the other day i was using it at work all day connected via activesync and it didnt freeze up. its only when i leave it idle on the charger.... Last weekend i kept getting messages from friends all during the night while it was on the charger (i was reading messages) and it didnt freeze.

So if it's sitting still for a long time without activity.. it freezes. Hmm... well i could give you a dozen things to try, but they'd just be bandaid fixes anyway. If it's freezing something isnt right.
Read my first post on page 2 of this thread you started and that should give you your options. FLASH!!

Problems with Kaiser

My Kaiser has been acting up since today morning.
The buttons/keyboard wont work and the voice recording program will start automatically and create files for every 4-8 seconds back to back.
I'm running Dutty's Dual touch ROM.
I reinstalled it and it worked perfectly fine for few hours until when i started txt messaging again....
any suggestions

hamudi said:
My Kaiser has been acting up since today morning.
The buttons/keyboard wont work and the voice recording program will start automatically and create files for every 4-8 seconds back to back.
I'm running Dutty's Dual touch ROM.
I reinstalled it and it worked perfectly fine for few hours until when i started txt messaging again....
any suggestions
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Are you performing a hard reset after the rom installation?
Also what applications have you installed?
Next time post this in the thread where the rom is, try to stick to forum rules

Also what do you mean your keyboard is broken? Is it simply not functioning at all or are you typing a sentence and " it cmes out lke tis"

oops thanks, I'll post it in that thread. Basically I've been using it for good 5 months and no other applications have been installed.
Keyboard is not broken...the send/end/email/windows start buttons wont work...only the touch screen works.
and yes i hard reset it after the installation

seems like the problem is not with custom rom/firmware and its with the phone in general.
I'm now running stock firmware and the butons still dont work and it acts weird as soon as i turn on (example - goes to phone mode and dials EDFC, and then opens voice recording and starts recording small clips for every 4-6 seconds until i bring it complete stop)

hamudi said:
seems like the problem is not with custom rom/firmware and its with the phone in general.
I'm now running stock firmware and the butons still dont work and it acts weird as soon as i turn on (example - goes to phone mode and dials EDFC, and then opens voice recording and starts recording small clips for every 4-6 seconds until i bring it complete stop)
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Sounds like one of your buttons is stuck. Maybe try dusting the button area with canister air duster? Hope you don't have to do defective exchange, but that might be in the cards.

cushcalc said:
Sounds like one of your buttons is stuck. Maybe try dusting the button area with canister air duster? Hope you don't have to do defective exchange, but that might be in the cards.
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I will try that tonight,
Might have to take it into a cell repair store...the drawback is i bought it off a local user, i will give HTC a call.
i love this phone

hamudi said:
My Kaiser has been acting up since today morning.
The buttons/keyboard wont work and the voice recording program will start automatically and create files for every 4-8 seconds back to back.
I'm running Dutty's Dual touch ROM.
I reinstalled it and it worked perfectly fine for few hours until when i started txt messaging again....
any suggestions
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If i read you correctly, reinstalling the OS fixed it temporarily right? Maybe you got a corrupted file download and should redownload it again? It seems odd to me that the buttons would work short term after a reinstall.
Also , you can try other roms aside from Dutty's ( while his certainly is nice ) there are many alternatives. Pick one that has the radio included just to make sure you dont have some sort of firmware corruption. Also update Hard-SPL to the newest here.
Just a few things you could try

pyraxiate said:
If i read you correctly, reinstalling the OS fixed it temporarily right? Maybe you got a corrupted file download and should redownload it again? It seems odd to me that the buttons would work short term after a reinstall.
Also , you can try other roms aside from Dutty's ( while his certainly is nice ) there are many alternatives. Pick one that has the radio included just to make sure you dont have some sort of firmware corruption. Also update Hard-SPL to the newest here.
Just a few things you could try
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Yea I tried that too, but now it just wouldn't work...I formatted the memory car but i couldn't format the device, i called HTC and they asked me to send it in and they will take a look at it and said will fix it. I have to return everything back to stock and see how it goes.
Thanks guys

Coming to the end of my tether with this phone!

Hi all,
for some reason, when i mess around with my phone, and install stuff, the people tabs stops working, and its starting to really bug me.
It seems that when i install stuff it happens, like just now. I had some themes and a font installed, and the phone was running perfect, and now, i just installed something else, and the people tab has died!
Does anybody know of the reason for this? Do i have a faulty phone?

Shaady said:
Hi all,
for some reason, when i mess around with my phone, and install stuff, the people tabs stops working, and its starting to really bug me.
It seems that when i install stuff it happens, like just now. I had some themes and a font installed, and the phone was running perfect, and now, i just installed something else, and the people tab has died!
Does anybody know of the reason for this? Do i have a faulty phone?
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I dont have any problems with this phone what so ever (using Duttys latest 2.5). To me it sounds like your installing faulty applications.

Its nothing that loads of people on here havent installed on their devices!

then you must be doing something wrong because this is the first i've heard of this problem

Actually I have the same problem. For some reason the entries of faforite people dissapear from the people tab. I run a stock Dutch ROM with nothing special...
Anybody know a solution?

Chris1974 said:
Actually I have the same problem. For some reason the entries of faforite people dissapear from the people tab. I run a stock Dutch ROM with nothing special...
Anybody know a solution?
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Yup thats exactly what happens to me. Do you get an error report and then it goes back to the home screen and says launching touch flo 3d?
I run a stock ROM, and its really bugging me, because the good thing about win mo is that ability to install these kinds of apps, but im afraid to because the chances are it will bring back this errror.

I really don't understand why plp stay with crappy/buggy old roms... just because they are official... you should spend 10 minutes to cook one of the newest roms here around and you'll see how many steps they are forward to "official" ones
bye,
davide

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I really don't understand why plp stay with crappy/buggy old roms... just because they are official... you should spend 10 minutes to cook one of the newest roms here around and you'll see how many steps they are forward to "official" ones
bye,
davide
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Agreed....I hate to say this gents, but the original ROMs that HTC publish are not as good as you think they are
If I were you I would pick a resectable ROM that looks like what you require, set your PDA up and "flash" away all the quirks and bugs that HTC introduce to the device!
I know its not right, but thats life with HTC.......

Official ROMs are fine.... until you find this forum
then you start installing apps... tweaking... uninstalling... it all gets messy.
You baisically try and create what custom ROMs do on top of a 'Official' ROM. Best advice is to Flash a ROM, you can always put it back to 'out of the box condition' by flashing the SPL and Official ROM back (i've had to twice for repairs )

if you are talking about your favorites clearing, that happened to me when i moved the people tab. i bet your favorites are hard coded to that location so moving or altering it messes it up in some way.

tilt keeps freezing

hey guys, not sure whats going on, but my tilt lately keeps freezing, but it only freezes when i go into landscape mode. i've ran the same programs for a long time (palringo, google maps, live search, kaiser tweak and srs wow) i'm not even running skyfire anymore, and i've uninstalled my opera browser but it keeps freeze. i've done some reflashes and hardware resets, and only ran the above programs, and it still ends up freezing when i put it into landscape. Anyone know what could be causing this? it doesn't matter if im typing landscape in notes, palringo, PIE or anything else, always freezes. The ironic thing is that if i bust out my stylus and type w/ that using the soft keyboard it seems to run just fine (but slows me down A LOT). any help would be much appreciated.

Do you mean your hardware keyboard lags?
If so in software is a speedup keyboard .cab.

stylez said:
Do you mean your hardware keyboard lags?
If so in software is a speedup keyboard .cab.
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no its not a keyboard lag by any means, the phone literally freezes. i dont even have to type when its in lanscape mode for it to freeze, as soon as the screen changes orientation it freezes immediately

simbadogg said:
no its not a keyboard lag by any means, the phone literally freezes. i dont even have to type when its in lanscape mode for it to freeze, as soon as the screen changes orientation it freezes immediately
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Thanks for clarification, just that you say soon as use onscreen keyboard no issue, are you using a stock ROM? Does it happen on a clean flash no programs installed?

stylez said:
Thanks for clarification, just that you say soon as use onscreen keyboard no issue, are you using a stock ROM? Does it happen on a clean flash no programs installed?
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sorry, i should have given a lot more info, but i had to jet to class. Anyways, its not the stock rom, i'm running NATF's Lite rom (no TF3D). I actually downloaded originally around september/nov/dec of 08 (dont remember, but its been months that i've been running it). And never had a problem with it...now all of a sudden it seriously craps out everytime i run it. I tried running Hyperdragons IV Lite and i was experiencing some of the same problems. I'm really starting to think its one of the problems i'm running, so i'm going to to a hard reset (again) and see if it runs just palringo, and google maps w/out any problems. its just getting super frustrating to be honest. i'm running the exact same programs that i've ran for the last year, but now its deciding to act up. hopefully its something in the software and not hardware

ok...so i got home, and installed the OEM att tilt rom. really, no matter what program i install, pretty much anything. the freezing occurs. any out there familiar w/ cell phone hardware? i'm thinking that might be the cause, if so...do you think there's anything that can be done/replaced to fix it?

Hi, this started happening to my just today also! At first I thought it was the onscreen keyboard that made my phone freeze (as I have seen others with the same issue) and thought I could fix it by using another keyboard app. I used SPB's keyboard and it prevents my phone from freezing and I'm able to type things using it. BUT my phone STILL freezes when I put it in landscape mode and try to type something. It freezes after typing a couple of letters. This is stock ROM; I've never flashed it.
Is there a .dll I can use to repair or anything of the sort?
Btw, I'm using a Tilt. Thanks!

anyone have any method ..to prevent this problem???
I find that if restart the phone few times will freeze at gray screen .."the original HTC gray blank screen with loading box in the middle" but the antenna reception green light is normal blinking (all the button not functioning).... -solution have to press reset button below ...
so now everytime install new program very scare to restart .. if un lucky ..will stuck at that screen.... really wonder why ...is it the WM6.1 not stable???
I use motorola linux ..no such problem...

simbadogg said:
i'm running the exact same programs that i've ran for the last year, but now its deciding to act up. hopefully its something in the software and not hardware
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Try the relevant ROM thread also look at your hardSPL version. Some users have fewer freezing probs just by updating hardSPL.

tsfatt said:
so now everytime install new program very scare to restart .. if un lucky ..will stuck at that screen.... really wonder why ...is it the WM6.1 not stable???
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Not at all, there's definitely something wrong with your setup if it wont even boot fully. Maybe a hard reset and some testing between installing each individual program will weed out the culprit. That said I've found (at least the HTC official) WM 6.0 ROMs to be much more reliable and stable than WM 6.1 ROMs.

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Try the relevant ROM thread also look at your hardSPL version. Some users have fewer freezing probs just by updating hardSPL.
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Sorry if it's a dumb question, but is there a HardSPL update for OEM OS?

DaDragonChild said:
Sorry if it's a dumb question, but is there a HardSPL update for OEM OS?
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Not as such - hardSPL is made by dedicated folks who have customised the OEM version but installing it will mean you no longer have an 'official' setup. That said, you can always revert to the official HTC SPL if needed for eg a warranty return. You could also install a newer HTC SPL for your ROM (as long as it's compatible *be careful about this* - eg I'm using the 1.93 HTC SPL with my ROM instead of the 1.56 SPL). This is all explained in the Kaiser wiki (through the xda-wiki button above) so it's well worth having a good read there

aaaahh I looked around. and I can't find a driver to reinstall for the hardware keyboard... I'm assuming this would fix it~

Sorry to double post but I just wanted to say I fixed the problem by backing up and restoring with SKTools after doing a hard reset. It makes me think, what exactly caused the problem in the first place if doing this fixes it? Is there anything that SKTools leaves behind in an All System backup? Perhaps something messed with my registry causing the keyboard to freeze the phone when used.
I'd hate to think my phone can actually get spyware now. Maybe Skyfire's true desktop viewing of webpages allows for this to happen?
Let me know what you guys think

" used Spb's keyboard and it prevents my phone from freezing and I'm able to type things using it. BUT my phone STILL freezes when I put it in landscape mode and try to type something. It freezes after typing a couple of letters. This is stock ROM; I've never flashed it."
If I will you to avoid ...uninstall this soft keyboard ... use back the original keyboard at the time being and see... if u restore back what is the diff compare to now ... If I not wrong still the same ...
FYI, I got this freezing problem is after I have install PCM kb 0.14 ...then I try install & uninstall & install ..and need to restart the phone ..2 out of 4 time is freeze at loading screen .. now really worry is it b'cos I uninstall it at the same time have remove certain original files .....
WM is diff with windows ...lack of tool to chk which system files damage .... I really hate hard reset ..just like computer... imagine keep format the hard disk ....

Hard reset comparible to system recovery process
tsfatt said:
WM is diff with windows ...lack of tool to chk which system files damage .... I really hate hard reset ..just like computer... imagine keep format the hard disk ....
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If only restoring a full size PC was as easy and quick as hard restting. Sure there's a little work involved in reinstalling apps after completing the hard reset but if the apps are well designed ones that install via activesync, that's as easy as going to Activesyncs add and remove programs function and ticking a box. If this is not available then maybe the old app is the cause of the problem?
A hard reset every now and again is very useful for maintaining peak performance and it certainly weeds out whether a problem is hardware or software related pretty quickly.