can i downgrade rom 6.1 to 6.0 and pocketgba question - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

hi is it possible to downgrabe from mobile 6.1 to 6.0? and when everi start up pocket gba it freezes when i rpess anything. thanks!!!!

buugtdbgt said:
hi is it possible to downgrabe from mobile 6.1 to 6.0? and when everi start up pocket gba it freezes when i rpess anything. thanks!!!!
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Yes it is possible to down grade.
Can't help , I have a PSP and actually use my phone as a phone

Yes and HTC should be responsible for their bugs/poor firmware
buugtdbgt said:
hi is it possible to downgrabe from mobile 6.1 to 6.0? and when everi start up pocket gba it freezes when i rpess anything. thanks!!!!
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I complained to HTC in person about reliability issues with the HTC TyTN II WM 6.1 'upgrade that was more of a downgrade' (pausing, GPS perfomance issues, phone not ringing when calls came in - these were just some of the issues I experienced) and they reverted it all for free under warranty for me. Even though I still have the original WM 6.0 ROM, the Radio and SPL (other code programmed onto the phone) are slightly newer & fix a few bugs with the original setup so my device is now super reliable. Why not give that a try? Even if they won't revert it, there'll still be ways of doing it yourself if needed but if your phones under warranty and you're experiencing problems with their setup, really it should be up to them to fix it for you. Let us know how you get on.

ya those dicks wont downgrade it for me. can anyone show me steps to downgrade to 6.0 maybe even 5.0? ?

The wiki is your friend
buugtdbgt said:
wont downgrade it for me. can anyone show me steps to downgrade to 6.0 maybe even 5.0? ?
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Why not, what did they say and which country HTC (you've not filled in your country or network on the User Control Panel/Profile)? You won't be able to downgrade to WM 5 because the TyTN II only came out with WM 6.0 or 6.1 but if you read the wiki, all the info you need to do it is in there. People here won't hold your hand through it, you'll need to do your own research and make sure you understand fully so you don't make a mistake. If it's a reliable WM 6.0 setup you're after on a WWE HTC TyTN II Kaiser (ie HTC Branded), then the components in my sig are a good combination other than very occasional sluggish keyboard responses when typing.

ok but before i downgrade can i ask you a quick favor? can you donwload the latest version of pocket gba and tell me if it freezes when loading a rom for you?

buugtdbgt said:
ok but before i downgrade can i ask you a quick favor? can you donwload the latest version of pocket gba and tell me if it freezes when loading a rom for you?
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Now I have my TyTN II set up as I like it (by and large), I'm not looking to do any ROM 'loading'... I'm not even sure what that means in fact. If your program is WM 6.0 compatible and you don't have any other conflicting software it should work on the native WM 6 HTC ROM but as you haven't answered all the other questions about what you currently have, it's hard to say if it'll work for you. Maybe someone else more familiar with this product knows about its general compatibility.

dot dot dot >>;;;xD pocketgba is a emulator a program not a rom -.-; the only reason wHy i want to downgrade is because i wanna know if it works with 6.0 b/c it freezes on 6.1

so let me tell you it works, but doesn't work well. there is no gba emu for kaiser which can play games with decent fps.

I have a similar problem I'm out of warranty so no use going to HTC they said they'd only put the latest which is 6.1 as they are contractually obliged by law - so where would I get hold of wm6.0 so I can revert mine back from 6.1 to 6.0?

argoran said:
I have a similar problem I'm out of warranty so no use going to HTC they said they'd only put the latest which is 6.1 as they are contractually obliged by law
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Well then they broke the law with me. 'Contractually obliged', what a load of rubbish. It takes 2 to have a valid contract and if one party doesn't want WM 6.1 then there cant be a contract.
so where would I get hold of wm6.0 so I can revert mine back from 6.1 to 6.0?
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There are WM 6.0 ROMs accessible through a link on the wiki (a chart that shows different ROM versions with their matching Radios). You'll need to read up to know what you're doing first, otherwise if you don't want the hassel, pay a phone repair shop to do it for you.

Flying Kiwi said:
Well then they broke the law with me. 'Contractually obliged', what a load of rubbish. It takes 2 to have a valid contract and if one party doesn't want WM 6.1 then there cant be a contract.
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I think they mean contractually obligated to Microsoft. They piss and moan about anybody offering any Windows based rom for any longer than they are contracted to. This means new or older roms.

Grrrr
denco7 said:
I think they mean contractually obligated to Microsoft.
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That's even more annoying The same company that lets HTC sell a product with their OS on it and doesn't even insist it has full driver support first. Given they allowed the device to come out with WM 6.0 once upon a time, it should be up to the manufacturer to put the most reliable ROM for the customers needs on the device and if that means the latest isn't the greatest then either fix the latest or use another version.
The bottom line is HTC can get away with doing this if they want to, I know through personal experience.

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Windows mobile 6.1 Rom

Does someone knows if there is a WM 6.1 ROM for the Wings?
I see several devices that already work with WM 6.1 but I can't find one for the Wings.
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Does someone knows if there is a WM 6.1 ROM for the Wings?
I see several devices that already work with WM 6.1 but I can't find one for the Wings.
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I have been wanting to make one. But I cant seem to find a Windows Mobile 6.1 standard version.. Only the Pro for touch screens...
If I can find a standard ROM, what more do I need to create a cooked ROM?
Surfboomerang said:
If I can find a standard ROM, what more do I need to create a cooked ROM?
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You would need a kichen to cook it.. Kaiser kitchen works.
Hard to tell if you need anything else without alittle try and fail.
But an OS would help a lot.. I tried flashing a Pro version to my wings..
Did not work out well
I'll keep an eye open for the standard version.
it seems that the Motorola Q9 is already equiped with 6.1 standard (possibility to rip the rom?)
Surfboomerang said:
I'll keep an eye open for the standard version.
it seems that the Motorola Q9 is already equiped with 6.1 standard (possibility to rip the rom?)
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Yes, it is possible. But it would come with alot of Motorola SW included, and no HTC SW... So that would take some work I guess..
mmmmm.. first we have to find a person who has such a phone
BTW what is all the buzz for? What are new features/improvements compared to WM6?
It was told that there is more free ram at boot. And hopefuly some minor bug fixes
i really want 6.1
and the demand for a cooked rom is high!!
A.Bagatov said:
i really want 6.1
and the demand for a cooked rom is high!!
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I think we are all waiting to someone who will make it. To be honest - original ROM is not a masterpiece. My previous device was HTC TyTN and there are many available ROMs for this dev. We have to hope there will appear someone like dutty (IMO best ROM creator for TyTN). Meanwhile we can just sit and cry for him/her
I really want it too.
And i join the queue for request a cooked version of WM6 (maybe one closer to a Pro WM6)
millovanillo said:
I really want it too.
And i join the queue for request a cooked version of WM6 (maybe one closer to a Pro WM6)
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I hardly doubt WM6 Pro could be used as a base. Either it is impossible (most probable) or work on adoption to Standard would be too hard.
Uhmmm...
so u think will not be possible upgrade the S730 to a Pro version??
millovanillo said:
Uhmmm...
so u think will not be possible upgrade the S730 to a Pro version??
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Yes, I do. In my opinion differences of the architecture of whole OS will be big. And altough I'm really interested in WM generally I didn't hear about any successful attempt of porting from PPC -> Smartphone.
If microsoft officially released WM6.1 standard it should not be so hard to find/rip it? right?
IMO they should just make it available to buy just like any other version of Windows!
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If microsoft officially released WM6.1 standard it should not be so hard to find/rip it? right?
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Perhaps. In-house geeks always find a way
Hi Guys,
I recently bought a HTC S730 with Windows Mobile 6 standard - I am slightly disappointed with this userfriendlyness of this software (you have to tap/click to many times to get what you want). I have read a lot of posts in these forums, but can not seem to find a way to change.
I am looking for is some newbie step by step guide explaining in detail how I should flash with new modded software... I am an experienced C# developer, so technical things shouldn't be a problem
I have radio version: 25.62.30.03H_1.58.17.02
Hoping for some help.
as to today, there is no new ROM available for the Wings.
but an official flash is easy as.... just run an exe file, the phone reboots, you wait for 10 mins and voila! done.
Not official roms are a bit trickier...

Windows Mobile 6.1?

Will there be an official Windows Mobile 6.1 for the Herald?
nope. just that easy
so basically, tmobile wing will not have windows 6.1 that is not cool
Well July 12 I will be on my iPhone then.
well before you jump ship, all the current custom roms are 6.1
try those
well i am not jumping mate, I have tried them, and the closest i have gotten with HTC herald upgrade from tylerC161 is error messages saying, the system cannot excute the specified file and then shuts off. i am new to this, so if you have any experience with one of them, please reference, i dont need tutorial, i can do it i am sure, there are just a million version in this forum and i have not been successful with three of them so far and it took me a 6 to eight hours by now. i am still not frustrated, more like eager to see one of them work and see how touchflo works on my wing before i buy an iphone.
i agree
Why is it that the wing wont get a 6.1 upgrade but people that have had wm5's were able to go to 6's from what ive read. whats the point of having windows default update software on there if there never gona let you have the updates ??? i want the 6.1 also. Ive tried a few roms myself and went back to factory settings because of minor but imoprtant errors.
in all honesty, the wing already has wm6. if you're mad about them getting wm6 from wm5, the jump form wm6 to 6.1 doesn't necessarily translate
and windows update for wm is one of those ideas that sounds nice but doesn't really quite work
ok but also
I heard wings arent gona be upgradeable to WM7 either so do you see what i mean ?
Yeah but the iPhone won't make the jump from whateverthehellitsOSiscalled to wm7 either
Also, why would you want to run the bloatware that is a stock TMO rom? I mean seriously, you can't deny the fact that your wing runs 800x faster as soon as you flash anybody's rom, let alone a slim/lite version of one of them.
If you're going to dump the wing in favor of a different device, at least just use a custom rom untill wm7 hits. Otherwise you'll be buying yet another phone.
idea
try flashing to open touch v3.0 slim, everything works and its vrey fast. any program that it doesnt have you can usually find for free. good luck and dont stick with the tmo os cause it for lack of a better word sucks.

Upgrade my TyTN II to 6.1 ??

I have been looking to upgrade my Tytn II to the latest ROM however I have not been able to get the upgrade it from HTC.
but its seems to not be there....
My system is
R 1..27.15.32
G 22.51.8.13H
D 1.82.00.00
Now I"m not sure what all those numbers ar efor but I know the R is for radio!!
I got lost after reading that bit... I was going to try to upgrade it myself but got confused so I stopped... trying and thought I'd wait till an update was available from HTC...
Well it seems its not to me anyways...
SO if there is anyone out there that can help me sort out an upgrade..
I live in Brisbane, and use optus as my carrier... my phone is unlocked as far as I know... I purchased it on the net from a Melbourne online store.
So help an Aussie if ya can.....
if you want to upgrade, then please start reading here.....
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
6.1 very bad gps.
6.0 good gps
Why go to WM 6.1?
peto01 said:
6.1 very bad gps.
6.0 good gps
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Exactly! Having been there, done that and decided to go back to WM 6.0, in my effort to help a fellow person from 'down under', I can tell targ that if he uses (or expects to use) Tomtom or GPS at all on the device, he'd better be very patient at waiting for satellite locks under WM 6.1.
Although HTC have improved some of their WM 6.1 upgrades by using a newer Radio, I've tried the latest WWE version and it's still far short of what my original WM 6.0 implementation achieved as far as GPS performance is concerned. Once you upgrade to 6.1 it's quite a task to go back to WM 6.0 (the spl needs reverting too) so I had HTC do that on my device under warranty.
Yup tried reading that...
got lost as to what I need to match to what!!!
Like I said I'm looking for a some help to do this .
I"ll have another crack at it though see if I can make sense of any of it...
Peto01 man what you mean the gps goes crap... in 6.1
Is this only in a few units or every unit.
More reading material
targ said:
what you mean the gps goes crap... in 6.1
Is this only in a few units or every unit.
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Have a look at this thread about *hopeless* GPS after 6.1 update
The problem seems fairly widespread with TyTN II WM 6.1 updates. Since the ROM and Radio on your device seem to be from the Rogers network (as listed in the xda-dev wiki), that may explain why the generic HTC upgrade doesn't work for your device (only genuine HTC TyTN IIs will run the HTC upgrade as-is).
If you're just wanting to upgrade to WM 6.1 because it's the latest, you may be disappointed!
Useful!
I was browsing forum trying to see should I upgrade my stock 6.0 ROM to 6.1. Now I am sure that I will wait for couple more months (weeks?) !
I'm inclined to wait until the next ROM and Radio release has been tested/reviewed
I'm inclined to let someone else be the guinea pig regarding fixing the broken GPS. When a new ROM/Radio Combination is released on HTC eClub/Support, I'll check here to see how reports about GPS performance look and then when I'm sufficiently sure it's not still broken, will again jump over to WM 6.1.
Once bitten, twice shy and I don't want to have to get HTC to revert it to WM 6.0 again!
Flying Kiwi said:
Exactly! Having been there, done that and decided to go back to WM 6.0, in my effort to help a fellow person from 'down under', I can tell targ that if he uses (or expects to use) Tomtom or GPS at all on the device, he'd better be very patient at waiting for satellite locks under WM 6.1.
Although HTC have improved some of their WM 6.1 upgrades by using a newer Radio, I've tried the latest WWE version and it's still far short of what my original WM 6.0 implementation achieved as far as GPS performance is concerned. Once you upgrade to 6.1 it's quite a task to go back to WM 6.0 (the spl needs reverting too) so I had HTC do that on my device under warranty.
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I had the same experience and reverted back to 6.0 roms. BUT I've recently been using Garmins WM6.1 DK3 with radio 1.65.17.56 and the GPS fix is always quick and strong - Works all over UK. This setup may be worth considering.
ach2 said:
I had the same experience and reverted back to 6.0 roms. BUT I've recently been using Garmins WM6.1 DK3 with radio 1.65.17.56 and the GPS fix is always quick and strong - Works all over UK. This setup may be worth considering.
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I want to keep it all official HTC and not have to use hardspl at this stage, besides I prefer the look of the original HTC setup (themes, icons etc) over the customised Garmin DK3. The latest official HTC ROM for the device uses the same radio as you're using and I was far from satisfied with its reception instability compared to the old WM 6.0 setup. I've sent a letter to the big cheese at HTC so will wait and see what happens!
Flying Kiwi,
What do you mean "Rogers network" (WTF) I bought a HTC Tytn II from a Retailer. surely this is not a fake HTC??
Should I be looking at taking it back?
Does this mean I don't have any Warrenty?
This would be why HTC said that the Upgrade is not a suitable for my unit... going by the S/N!!
What am I to DO now.
As for the GPS issue some seem to be having no real issue with cooked roms.
AS I live in Australia would I need to get a diff radio then say you in the UK?
I"m rather intrested in the L26 TL ROM of Leo's
And if I understand it correctly I need to
1. run jump SPL
2. then flash the SPL that suits the rom I go for.
3. flash the Radio
4. Flash the ROM I have choisen.
Then hard reset.
IS that right?
or have I got the order wrong or missed a step.
Just trying to make a simple as I can..
Would my location and carrier make a difference as to which SPL, ROM, RADIO I use.
OH yeah !
What Does the R, D, and G mean...
Well, I finally did my first ROM change (to 6.1) and have to say I don't have any problems at all.
I have a T-mobile Vario 3, that although everything worked, I always found slow and buggy.
I went for Sleuths 6.1 V3 ROM, simply because I was a hermes user before and his stuff was always flawless.......and I was proved right again.
It's really simple to do, contains the correct radio (much better than the shipped one), and is really fast and stable. Had it a week and used it intensively - no problems with Tomtom or GPS - the same, if not better than it was before.
I would suggest, if you're not sure which one to go for then try this and see if it suits you.
Ok I tried to use the link in the WIki to the Jump SPL the latest one that only needs you to follow the on screen info..
And well according to the on screen prompts it must be done but as for the unit its self I don't hink so as nothing really happened on it... I"m thinking that the wizard does not like Vista or it does not like Sync Centre.
anyone able to help me out ....
No WTFs reqd after-all
targ said:
Flying Kiwi,
What do you mean "Rogers network"
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Your Radio (R) is the same as that used by Rogers on their WM 6.0 ROMs. But you're right, I missed the bit about your 1.82 series ROM though so it looks more like you have the 3rd one down the wiki list of HTC WM 6.0 ROMs here and not the first: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
Should I be looking at taking it back?
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Not if it currently works as you need it to but you could see what their explanation for why there is no WM 6.1 upgrade for your device yet is. HTC in Australia should also be able to advise you http://www.htc.com/au/about_htc.aspx?id=21840
As for the GPS issue some seem to be having no real issue with cooked roms.
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And some are so are you willing to take that risk as a newbie and get stuck with a non-original non-warrantable installation thats not straight forward to revert back to original WM 6.0 if it plays up for you? Is it not worth liasing with HTC first to see what they have to say about a possible WM 6.1 update if you're really that keen?
AS I live in Australia would I need to get a diff radio then say you in the UK?
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Pass on the Radios but if history is anything to go by, there are a few different ROMs on that wiki page released for Australia. If you do a bit of searching around here I think you'll find cases of peoples non-Australian purchased TyTN IIs having problems when used there as well. I can't recall what the issues were but there definitely were issues (months ago before WM 6.1 came out on the Kaiser). Perhaps a search for Australia just in the Kaiser General or Kaiser ROM Dev forums may yeild results.
Thanks heaps I'll follow your leads Cheers

WM 6.5 upgrade

Sorry for my noob question...
I heard that all TD2 gets a WM 6.5 upgrade for free when the system is released. (Hopefully September )
But how do we get it? Do HTC release some kind of upgrade software on their website?
The reason why I ask, is because there is no flyer or information about this free upgrade in my TD2 box, and I don't see any update software on my installation CD, so I need to know that I get this, because the salesman told me, that all TD2's gets the upgrade for free.
Thanks!
Yes the upgrade will be free. There will probably be a page on the HTC site where you have to type in your serial number and then a Windows EXE to download. This will then upgrade the unit over ActiveSync.
this topic got me excited for 3 seconds
idesmond said:
this topic got me excited for 3 seconds
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Heard somewhere else WM6.5 was out in May but guess we have to wait on HTC. I would hope they'd prioritise it as it's a good selling point.
Rob.
Yup, it was annouced that WM6.5 is complete and has been RTM. Now only a matter of time before we see some good stuff rolling in.. or just wait for HardSPL. I got a feeling HardSPL will arrive before WM6.5
What is your guess about the ToucFlo3D interface? Will it look the same after an upgrade or will there be more parts that are visible from WM6.5?
Will it work as it works now, you choose the default home screen or the TF3D home screen?
I got a feeling it will still be the current Touchflow3D. I bet most people will turn off the TF3D.
Personally, as soon as 6.5 goes on my Topaz I'm going to dump manila, it's driving me nuts!

some advise

hi i am new to all this but i have managed to hardspl my kaiser and also sim unlocked it and removed the cid.
i am now looking at flashing a rom but i would like a rom that has good look and also if possible has windows messenger and you tube allready in it and a smart look. can you recomend one?
also as i have unlocked this and i want to use it with t-mobile in the uk how can i put the mms sms and internet settings onto the handset to allow it to work with my t-mobile sim card
any help would be greatfully appreciated thanks
dazzlet said:
i am now looking at flashing a rom but i would like a rom that has good look and also if possible has windows messenger and you tube allready in it and a smart look. can you recomend one?
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It is very difficult to recommend one since we all have our own preferences. The best thing to do is decided are you going to go with WM 6.1 or WM 6.5, the next step is to pick a ROM and read the thread about it, seeing what the chef has put into his ROM and then finally...flash...that is the only way that you find the ROM that you like the best....
Good Luck...flashing is half the fun.
what is the differance between the 6.1 and 6.5 is one more stable than the other. also i have seen the athineOS too which i know runs on 6.5 but i dont fully understand what it is
dazzlet said:
what is the differance between the 6.1 and 6.5 is one more stable than the other. also i have seen the athineOS too which i know runs on 6.5 but i dont fully understand what it is
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6.1 has been officially been released, but 6.5 has some improvements in it, but it has not been officially released, but the chefs here have been able to craft some pretty good ROMs that are stable and workable.
Myself, I have chosen to stay with 6.1, because I have seen and read to many problems with 6.5 roms. It is ultimately your decision which version to go with.
dazzlet said:
hi i am new to all this but i have managed to hardspl my kaiser and also sim unlocked it and removed the cid.
i am now looking at flashing a rom but i would like a rom that has good look and also if possible has windows messenger and you tube allready in it and a smart look. can you recomend one?
also as i have unlocked this and i want to use it with t-mobile in the uk how can i put the mms sms and internet settings onto the handset to allow it to work with my t-mobile sim card
any help would be greatfully appreciated thanks
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like greywolf said, you pretty much need to look around and see what you like. i am using the lastest TPC rom and pretty happy with it, but there are a lot other good choices out there right now
As for you using your phone with other sim cards most roms come with "Connection Setup" it usually detects your sim card and asks you if u want to change the setting to the carrier. you can always search for the latest cab on this forum.

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