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Ebay - be cautious

I have seen a few references to ebay on this and other media.
The basic idea behind ebay is great and it started off brilliantly with people selling used or unwanted stuff to other people looking for exactly that stuff.
In the meantime most of the stuff you find on ebay is cheap crap made in China (not everything made in China in bad!, but most crap is made in China) I think.
Like cigarettes, all advertising for ebay should contain a warning: Buying here might be harm your purse.
Sorry if I sound a bit cynical but fact is that ebay is trmendeously successful and people get carried away. I use ebay myself occasionally but I would never ever (again) by a phone or accessory on ebay.
This is all my humble opinion. I do try support serious online shops that sell good products and good service at a competitive price. My advice here: Always see to it that the online shop you buy from provides full contact details on their website: postal address and a valid phone and fax number. There are too many shops out there with no physical address at all which to me is quite dubious.
Cheers

I've been purchasing a quite a few things off eBay, mostly UK sellers, and all of the product I've got are brilliant. If you were to think China products are mostly crap, you can well steer away from it (i.e. most of the China sellers have a word 'China' on the item location).
Anyway, I have bought a powered USB hub from China (via eBay) for GBP5 (include P&P). For the same product, if you were to get it from here in UK, it will cost you at least GBP15+. And yes, my USB hub is still here and I'm using it.
And, yeah, I've got myself a 512 Kingston SD from China, for GBP5 cheaper than of UK sellers.
Anyway, with most people saying that China will be an "economy threat" to others, I'm sure there are some reason to that (i.e. you can't be a threat by manufacturing craps). You might want to reconsider your point of view.
Anyway, I've got my Charmer off eBay for GBP150, that is more than 50% off as compared I were to get it (without contract) off local/web stores.

I have saved tons of money from getting stuff from Ebay, which includes my K-Jam.

I've bought a lot of stuff from ebay.
However, selling stuff on ebay, obviously be extremely careful about your purchaser and receive positive indication of payment before posting.
Buying: well, you take your chances of course. I've had bargains on some small electricals (eg USB hubs etc), but if you're paying that kind of money, be prepared for crap quality, and then hope you'll be pleasantly suprised.
I've had my fair share of scammers and non paying auction winners. I think your level of caution should grow the more expensive the item, of course. A lot of guys will try to scam you out of a phone, or into a stolen one (or one without a touch screen :wink
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I've managed to find original XDA accessories (Keyboard for £16 and Extended Battery for £11!!!!!!!) selling stupidly cheap (would cost 5x more in the shops) and both work great!
Regards,
Neil.

I think there's some golden rules with eBay...
Take everything you see on there with at least a pinch of salt.
Remember, some fraudsters will get others to post fake good feedback, I've seen this in the past and although it's hard, it's possible.
Also make sure you can pay via a scheme which offers Buyer protection - the standard eBay buyer protection is VERY inadequate, and it's really hard to get your money back (and they charge a fee for the service too). If you have a credit card, usually if you have a problem you can speak to your credit card company directly and they will protect you from fraud by charging back the transaction (as far as I know, all UK credit card companies offer free fraud protection these days, so if you are defrauded out of your money they'll give it straight back and get in touch with the transaction processing company themselves to resolve the situation).
Avoid paying by cheque/cash/postal order wherever possible, you're just asking to be taken for a ride like that. Also, third party escrow companies not run or approved by eBay you should steer VERY clear of, I have seen people defrauded by fake escrow agencies. Anybody who pays with cash is just asking to be mugged.
Read the item description VERY carefully - I'm amazed how many people complain that they've received something they didn't want, or people who put negative feedback on items after they bought something which was actually broken (and said so in the description)... They have only themselves to blame. Scour the eBay description every time, and don't be afraid to ask the seller further questions or request pictures / more information if you feel you need it to be confident enough to make the bid.
Everyone with an ounce of common sense will already realise this, I hope.

Thanks for the tips guys.
Always remember " if it sounds too good to be true, it will be !!! "

Just sold my magician on eBay at the second attempt. I've bought quite a lot on eBay, even from Hong Kong and everything's been fine and dandy.
As a seller I'm a bit of a newbie and some nigerian tried to scam me out of my magician. He registered that very day claiming to be an american on business in Nigeria. He even went so far as sending me a fake PayPal confirmation.
I smelled a rat straight away when he said he wanted it posted to nigeria but gave him a chance given that there was a 0.0000001% chance he might have been genuine. When the fake PayPal came through though that was it. I reported him to eBay, PayPal, the owner of the domain he was using to (try to) scam me and then re-listed. He was thrown off eBay in short thrift and I soon had another (genuine this time) buyer.
If selling, you can specify that bidders MUST have a PayPal account and with "But It Now" you can specify immediate PayPay payment. Make sure you do and you really should be OK.
I have my money and the magician is in the post.
Everybody is happy.
P.S. Why do 99% of the world's internet scammers come from Nigeria?

There's a culture, particularly in Nigeria, that scamming people from richer countries is almost entirely acceptable, as the scammers prey on the gullibility and greed of the rich people who usually fall for the scams (the promise of millions with a much smaller payment, what stupid rich person could turn that down?) - some people make a living exclusively from scamming Europeans and Americans (they call their targets 'mugus', singular mugu)... The most prevalent scam is the Advance Fee Fraud - the 419 scam (so called due to the number of the Nigerian law which makes it technically illegal... The thing is, these laws are rarely enforced, and corruption itself is widespread throughout the police force and government).
Of course, this is just how I interpret it, but you'll find others who share a similar point of view. Just googling for Nigerian scam 419 culture brings up some interesting results, including http://slashdot.org/articles/05/10/21/138243.shtml and http://www.pambazuka.org/en/category/blog/31063 ... Read those and browse for some more, very interesting, discussions on the subject.

Read this article http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3887493.stm on the BBC web site. It's very funny. :lol:
It's about a hobby called Scam Baiting - which is basically stringing the 419 scammers along, getting them to do rediculous things and sometimes conning THEM out of money in the process.
If you want to get in on scam baiting go to http://www.419eater.com
Edit: Funny you should mention police corruption - this is the address he wanted me to send it to:
Name : Eke James
Address : block (d) highway patrol barracks flat 17 :shock:
City : Ikeja
State : Lagos
Country : Nigeria
Zipcode : 23401

TheBrit: that's some funny sh*t!! :lol: "Church of the Painted Breast" LMAO
Sometimes I'm not even sure if the scammers know what they're talking about: one time I received a request to end the auction early with an instant payment of something like £300 for this xda iis with a broken screen, and that I must send it to this guy's cousin a.s.a.p. cos it was his birthday! :lol:

Oh guys if you haven't seen it already, check out http://www.amirtofangsazan.blogspot.com/ - don't sell a faulty laptop and leave your data on the hard disk! This has been making news around the world, over 2 million hits now and a Wikipedia article hahaha!
Neil.

OMFG - the fun never stops!!! I'm laughing so hard that I can't even go to bed... :lol:
It's a shame that the guy's been kicked off ebay now: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI..../search.dll?from=R40&satitle=6825578528&fvi=1

Hardly, he's exactly the kind of person that I don't want to see on ebay. I love all the newspaper coverage this story's been getting

What I mean is that guy is probably using ebay under a different name now, so it's hard for us to track him down, unless he forgets to wipe his hard disk again!

I have bought heaps of great things on eBay and I find it great but you should always be careful of things that seems to good to be true.

htc tytn II for sale

htc kaiser for sale - $350
comes with original box, app cd, manual, sync cable, 1gb microSD, flashed with a 6.1 rom,
has had screen protector quite literally from the moment i took it out of the box.
came with european charger, i'll throw in the motorola charger i've been using + car charger and car windshield mount(see: http://www.thepocketsolution.com/PSI-42435/HTC+TyTN+II+Deluxe+Dashboard+Mount.html, white pocket solutions case with clip(see http://www.thepocketsolution.com/PSI-42360/HTC+TyTN+II+White+Diplomat+Series+Case.html
original htc case, blue clear case (see: http://www.thepocketsolution.com/PSI-43906/HTC+TyTN+II+Blue+Crystal+Clear+Case.html
brand new pack of 3 styli specifically for the tytn II
if i think of anything else i'll add it later
the phone does have a few scratches along the edge of the casing but the phone works flawlessly, right now i have no pics, and honestly the scratches wouldn't be visible in a picture anyways. you already know all the specs on this phone so i'm not going to list those. it is this HTC tytn II as i mentioned before not the att tilt or any other variety
i will ship(on me) usps with insurance unless otherwise specified
email me at [email protected] for questions/offers
i accept paypal only
when i post to ebay i'll add the link here
here's the ebay link with pictures!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170229041118

just sent you an email.

Treat this post as a standard disclaimer and it is NOT aimed specifically at this seller.
If you buy any device from any member having seen it for sale on XDA-Developers; then you do so at your own risk. It is entirely up to you to ascertain if the description of the device is accurate and the offer genuine. You are not covered / protected in any way by XDA-Developers and XDA-Developers has not checked or authorized the sale of any device on these forums.

@ the OP
Please inform us if it is successfully sold so that we may close this thread at the appropriate time.
@ everyone else
I deleted the posts that were hijacking this thread. I hope you guys understand.
Thank you for understanding

Hello All,
This is just to inform you all that this phone is now sold since I have just purchased it on ebay.
This will be my second Kaiser, and I have to admit that I am very happy with it. I had a Herald before, and the Kaiser is a distinct improvement.
Thanks to all on this site who provide such good advice!! And thanks for helping me find a new phone for my wife!!
nebc100

How come no one wants to purchase my phone, although its been advertised for longer?

Sorry, 246810. I didn't see that your phone was for sale, and also, although your phone if probably a cheaper offer (if you look at what you are giving with it), I wanted the HTC model not the MDA version because I already have an HTC model myself and I don't want to have two different versions of the same phone.
Sorry!!!
P.S. I might have a Herald for sale when the Kaiser arrives as my wife currently has a Herald and she might not want it any more. Anyone interested?
P.P.S. I regulary send older models to the Philippines (my wife is from the Philippines) as charity as they cannot afford such phones there. If anyone has any of the older models (so far I have sent Wizards and a couple of Universals) and would be willing to donate them to charity (I don't make any money from this at all), please PM me. THANKS!!!!

Hey 246810.
Maybe you should reduce your price a bit to get more interest. Your Phone is a T-mobile branded TYTN so will not have the look of the original TYTN from HTC Which may put some poeple off a bit.
I recently had the opportunity to purchase a MDA vario 3 for £200 brand-new and never used but my heart was set on an orginal looking one. A week later I managed to get an orange branded one with a HTC replacement battery cover £250.
I'm not saying yours isn't a bad offer. But maybe the price is a bit too much for what it is.
Hope you find luck selling it.

nebc100 said:
Sorry, 246810. I didn't see that your phone was for sale, and also, although your phone if probably a cheaper offer (if you look at what you are giving with it), I wanted the HTC model not the MDA version because I already have an HTC model myself and I don't want to have two different versions of the same phone.
Sorry!!!
P.S. I might have a Herald for sale when the Kaiser arrives as my wife currently has a Herald and she might not want it any more. Anyone interested?
P.P.S. I regulary send older models to the Philippines (my wife is from the Philippines) as charity as they cannot afford such phones there. If anyone has any of the older models (so far I have sent Wizards and a couple of Universals) and would be willing to donate them to charity (I don't make any money from this at all), please PM me. THANKS!!!!
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Yep, I have a thread advertising my phone. I'm still waiting for my paypal set up to come through and then I will put in on Ebay. Mine is brand new as well and hasn't even be switched on and comes with all you need.
Good luck with your herald- quite personally I don't see myself purchasing a Windws Mobile phone again in a very long time...

just great...

246810 said:
How come no one wants to purchase my phone, although its been advertised for longer?
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Cause I have no way of getting to London, lol. If you wanna fly to the US and sell it face to face let me know

wshader said:
Cause I have no way of getting to London, lol. If you wanna fly to the US and sell it face to face let me know
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Lol. Okay, point made. If there is a buyer in London, UK then I am willing to meet face to face as this is the safest method for both the buyer and seller. I really do want to get rid of it however, and when my Paypal is sorted out shortly, you can purchase it by paypal if you're interested?....

246810 said:
Lol. Okay, point made. If there is a buyer in London, UK then I am willing to meet face to face as this is the safest method for both the buyer and seller. I really do want to get rid of it however, and when my Paypal is sorted out shortly, you can purchase it by paypal if you're interested?....
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Thats what 550-600USD? Not really, can almost buy a diamond for that price and an att tilt for half of that

wshader said:
Thats what 550-600USD? Not really, can almost buy a diamond for that price and an att tilt for half of that
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May I ask if you can buy it for this price brand new? I do find it hard to believe that you can purchase a new Diamond for around £290. Who are you purchasing them from? Cuboosh?...
Also, keep in mind that it comes with 4 cases, two of which are the boxwave clear active case and Siedo's case, and two leather cases, Sony Bluetooth headphones in good condition, along with a virtually unused very compact Bluetooth keyboard that I purchased off Expansys for £60/$120.

not to hijack the thread or anything, but just to let you know, that most people dont really care about that stuff. i wouldnt pay extra for a bluetooth keyboard. why would i need it??? hah 4 cases??!!! one is more than enough. just letting you know why you're having problems selling it so far. maybe try selling that stuff separately??

[For Sale] 6 months used AT&T Tilt / HTC Kaiser [$210]

Hello all,
I am selling my currently use AT&T Tilt for $210 ($10 shipping cost). I have this phone for almost 6 months. I am moving over to the iPhone (muwahaha).
Here's what you will get:
1/ A phone (of course)
2/ CD-ROM and Manual
3/ Wall Charger & min USB cable
My phone is almost in perfect condition due to ZAGG skin. I will give buyer a 3 days return policy. If you can found something wrong with the phone, I will more than happy to return your money. It's one of my "do to other as you want them to do it unto you". However, no buyer remorse.
I am in San Jose, CA. If you want to do local pickup.
If you want to pay through paypal, PM for my personal email address. Fully funded cash only as I only have a personal account. Thanks!

AT&T Tilt Phone
I'm interested in taking a look at your phone.
I am close to San Jose.
Please call me at 650-430-2626...
Thanks,
Brandie

Brave, aren't you
Brandie, What would have you post your phone number openly on this forum. There are oodles of loons out there with nothing better to do than mess with people.
Maybe a mod can help her out and delete her number.
LOONS I SAY... LOONS!!!!

I have one on ebay. It's with alot of accessories. I'll stop the auction if I'm made a good offer. Search for srhawkins or
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190285195637&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:1123
Thanks.

srhawkins said:
I have one on ebay. It's with alot of accessories. I'll stop the auction if I'm made a good offer. Search for srhawkins or
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190285195637&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:1123
Thanks.
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Its not proper to hijack someone elses thread to try to sell your phone when he is trying to offer his.

Stu_Can_Sam said:
Brandie, What would have you post your phone number openly on this forum. There are oodles of loons out there with nothing better to do than mess with people.
Maybe a mod can help her out and delete her number.
LOONS I SAY... LOONS!!!!
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It's bad enough people use there email address as there user name and now we have a phone no.
So just to clarify!!!
LOONS I SAY... LOONS!!!!

Still Avaiable
I'm interested. Still aviable? PM me if it is.

kaiser for sale

hi guys, im selling a brand new kaiser for $270 inlcuding shipping, if anyone is interested, pm me

You Joined Specifically to Sell your phone huh?
Wow,
Everyone, I have to caution you. You never know who is who behind their internet handle.
To skyler I must say that you would be better off Selling it on eBay, they have a buyer protection program which makes buyer feel soo much better.

Ebay gets a portion of the sale too..
I can't believe Jimmy actually came around.. lol

well if you are trying to sell
I would suggest listing the firmware & programs installed how long you had it, if it is unlocked or not type of payments you will accept. where you are located photo's etc asking people to buy a unit sight unsean with almost no description from somebody with no post what country even and does $270 shipped mean any where in the world this is a world wide forum with people literally around the world. anything you can do to raise you credibility will help you sell faster.

this person as jimmy said just joined to sell his phone so most likely it has absolutely nothing but the stock ROM included on it.

wow, well it is true i just joined basically to put my phone for sale which im sure anyone could figure out once you see i posted the same day i joined and have no other posts. i figure i would have more people interested here since everyone here is into modifying tilt or planning to get one.
i did post on ebay, too many charges and had one buyer who didn't pay after he won.
its a new phone i got through insurance because i lost my old one but then found the old one later on. all the stuff is still in it original wrapping except the phone and adaptor which i used for few weeks until i found mine.
i can post pictures of the phone if anyone is truely interested.
and if not then sorry for the inconvience............

Selling a genuine diamond!?

OK, Im not some sort of southern hemisphere dealer or nothing, but I've got a perfect HTC diamond sat around for someone to purchase for ROM testing or spares etc.
I couldnt find a specific forum that supports this form of selling on this site and I apologise if this breaks rules etc. But XDA was the first place I thought of before distributing this handset to other easier means for cash. I also hate ebay for this sort of selling too and it contains timewasters. This site does not.
It's an official O2 XDA Ignito (so not the dodgy back cover) that was sourced direct from O2 due to upgrades.
This phone has not been bought 2nd hand, I am the original owner from O2, nor has been locked or reported stolen.
Before I post pictures etc to prove working, the phone is still boxed within the original packagaing and contains all the supplied accessories which include:
Case (although slightly damaged from use)
USB Lead
Mains Charger
Brand new official HTC RC100 Remote Control Headset (Replacement supplied with handset)
Unused Official Screen Protector
CD and Manuals.
This handset was used by myself for 18 months, and comprised of around 8 months with the original O2 ROM and then cooked (with help from a friend)
with HardSPL Olinex 1.40 to just a few ROMs I've been dancing to and from, mainly the EnergyROMs, the GenY but its now got the Memo ROM flashed.
This sort of sale would be very ballpark, but im open to offers here at the moment. Its been sat around for a few months now and needs a good home.
Please PM me for offers or reply with any questions.
The phone box will be packaged in bubble wrap and brown paper and sent via Royal Mail Recorded delivery. P+P will be an extra £5 on top of the offered price.

Only spotted the marketplace at the top of the forum after posting this.
Apologies.
Please lock or delete.