Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere; I couldn't find anything.
I'm looking into getting some spare chargers for my Tilt. I read at Pocket PC Techs that the device has a distinct "fast charge" mode, that uses a special pinout. Is this true?
If so, does the charger that comes with the Tilt use this fast charge mode? It seems to be just a standard mini-USB charger (data sheet here).
The link to Pocket PC Techs is actually to an adapter that they sell that is suppose to give you a fast charge with any USB charger. I'm wondering under what circumstances I'd have to use this.
Anyone know what the fast charge pinout is, and which third-party chargers use it?
Thanks.
ISTR reading something about pins 4 & 5 being tied together on some chargers -- should be very easy to test this.
I have not tested this but I suspect the pin out is the same as the Hermes:
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config
The USB charging is done with different connections and at a different mA rating. The mains charger is 1000mA and is what I would call the normal charging system (but what the site you show, refers to as fast charge - but only by comparison to USB charging) This is just about standard for many sync/charge PDAs and not a special feature of the Kaiser.
Mike
I do notice a huge difference in speed comparing my old razor usb power adapter vs usb cable into my computer vs tilt power adapater so it prolly makes sense
jallenclark said:
I do notice a huge difference in speed comparing my old razor usb power adapter vs usb cable into my computer vs tilt power adapater so it prolly makes sense
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Yep, the Razor adapter only delivers 500mA not 1000mA
Mike
Plus the razor charger does not have the pins 4-5 shorted, this is a HTC tweak that lets the phone know that it's on a charger vs std. USB power and it may in fact charge at a higher rate upon detecting this. I just know that my Hermes occasionally did strange things like turn off BT radio and other odd things when connecting/disconnecting from different chargers. Kaiser seems better at this.
For a couple of weeks now, I have been charging my Kaiser at work by using the adapter that came with my Audiovox SMT5600. It's been working fine. I cannot however determine if this charges any faster or slower than the Kaiser's adapter.
Slow Charging
So that would explain when I use GPS in the car with my old RAZR charger why the battery still drains. Darn, looks like I'll have to buy a new car charger.
USB Charging
are there any issues iwth battery drain or lif when charging with the USB cable connected to a computer?
Thanks,
g
Is there a specific USB charger.
The pin out is the same as the Hermes?
mikechannon said:
I have not tested this but I suspect the pin out is the same as the Hermes:
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config....
Mike
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Is that tested by anybody?
Frans. said:
Is that tested by anybody?
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I wouldn't think it would need to be tested. As per this page:
HTC has developed a range of accessories that are compatible across all HTC devices for consumer's ease of use. These include the BH M200 (Bluetooth headset), HS U110 (3.5 mm audio adapter and headset), and the HS S200 (HTC standard stereo wired headset) to enable effective communications on the move.
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If the audio adapter and hard wired headset are compatible across all HTC devices (per HTC themselves), then that confirms that the pinout of the audio side is the same. And it's been mentioned earlier that the data side follows the mini-usb standard, which I can confirm: I'm using the usb cable from my camera to connect my Kaiser to my PC at home, while I use the supplied cable to connect it to my work PC.
dscline said:
I wouldn't think it would need to be tested. As per this page:
If the audio adapter and hard wired headset are compatible across all HTC devices (per HTC themselves), then that confirms that the pinout of the audio side is the same. And it's been mentioned earlier that the data side follows the mini-usb standard, which I can confirm: I'm using the usb cable from my camera to connect my Kaiser to my PC at home, while I use the supplied cable to connect it to my work PC.
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I would like to use my old Himalaya MDA II Hands Free DSP Car Kit for my new Kaiser (as that I only have to buy a passive holder).
I tried to find a ExtUSB 11-lead Pre-wired Connector Plug ....but it is impossible..any suggestions?
It should be something like this one http://www.gomadic.com/comip10leadp.html
Sorry, can't help you there.
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So that would explain when I use GPS in the car with my old RAZR charger why the battery still drains. Darn, looks like I'll have to buy a new car charger.
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I am experiencing a similar issue with an USB/car adapter and the USB cable that came with the Tilt.
Ran Google Maps yesterday with GPS on and when I got home my phone was almost empty. It was charging the whole time in the car though.
Does this mean I should look for another USB cable that is shorting those pins?
What about these adapters that plug into the phone and allow you to connect a USB cable for charging and a 3.5mm audio plug?
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-3in1-USB-3-...ryZ15040QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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I am experiencing a similar issue with an USB/car adapter and the USB cable that came with the Tilt.
Ran Google Maps yesterday with GPS on and when I got home my phone was almost empty. It was charging the whole time in the car though.
Does this mean I should look for another USB cable that is shorting those pins?
What about these adapters that plug into the phone and allow you to connect a USB cable for charging and a 3.5mm audio plug?
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-3in1-USB-3-...ryZ15040QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Mmm, that is a unique piece!! But the cable seems somewhat short.
I think at the end..I am going to combine following pieces to make the final connection to my old handsfree carkit.. (I hate soldering)
http://i.expansys.com/i/b/b139762.jpg
http://www.allekabels.nl/Kroonsteentjes/35/3249/Kroonsteen.html
http://www.allekabels.nl/Monitor-Kabels/19/1342/Monitor-Kabel.html
Any problems with me using my old Razr car charger on my Kaiser? Typically I charge mine every night with the standard charger but in case of emergency I'd like to use my Razr car charger
Thanks
In answer to the original question, yes, pins 4 & 5 are shorted on the OEM charger that ships with the Tilts, thus enabling it to fast-charge the phone at currents greater than 500ma.
Hopefully this helps,
--W5i2
Hello everybody,
I have an MDA Vario III (Kaiser) with a home (travel) charger and a navigation device Transonic with both home and car charger. As both devices (Kaiser and Transonic) are having a mini USB port (also) for charging, I asked myself if I could use the car charger from Transonic to charge the Kaiser; of course I don't want to risk to damage my Kaiser in any way... The question is: are there different standards of the mini usb chargers (concerning pinouts, etc.), or there are all made respecting the same standard configuration? I know that my Kaiser is supplied with 5V at max. 1A from his home charger and the car charger from Transonic delivers 5V at 850mA, but I'm not sure about the compatibility of the mini usb connectors. Can anyone help me with this?
Thank you very much in advance!
Conrad
There's a whole thread related to car chargers. It seems there may be some problems using non-HTC chargers. I don't think they damage the Kaiser but they don't charge it properly either.
See this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406771&highlight=car+charger
I'm having a problem with my phone. When I go to charge it with a car charger or a wall charger, the mini usb port on my Tlt won't recognize the charger.
I know it works,because when i put it in my docking station to connect it to my PC it works just fine. It will sync and charge. It also works with headphones.
I've checked the chargers and they charge other phones but not mine, I've gone to the AT&T store to try new chargers and ask for help and nothing works.
Is this a fixable issue?
Thanks in advance!
I'm having a problem with my Tilt (WM 6.1). When I go to charge it with a car charger or a wall charger, the mini usb port on my Tilt won't recognize the charger.
I know it works, because when I put it in my docking station to connect it to my PC it works just fine. It will sync and charge. It also works with headphones.
I've checked the chargers and they charge other phones with mini usb ports but not mine, I've gone to the AT&T store to try new chargers and ask for help with no luck.
What's wrong?
same with mine. check your mini usb port, the terminal might be broken. mightve been when it was dark and stuck the stylus in there by mistake instead of the resest button. thats what happened to mine
hello,
i just bought a htc c200 to charge my hd2 in the car.
this cable is very interessting for getting conected with the notebook on travel too - in theory, because it doesn´t work for me.
it seems, that it is only possible to charge the phone with this cable, but can´t get the phone to sync with the pc using it.
do you have experiences with the cable?
is mine defect, or isn´t it provided to use it for something else than charging?
many thanks in advance.
best regards
mario
i'm not sure, but i think that only the contacts for loading are connected.
the others are just left empty...htc sells it as "charging cable", so this could be correct
DN41
i hope so.
any other experiences?
I have the same experience as you do.
Charges the phone but no datatransfer.
I had to use the cable i from the wall socket charger.
/Mikael