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Battery Power Poor. Any advise?

Hi.
I don't seem to last a day without recharging my battery (either by USB or Outlet).
I have some useful programs but I'm afraid to use them sometimes because my phone wont last the day.
On a regular day, without extreme program usage (WiFi, GPS, games etc), just regular phone calls (GSM not 3G), my battery power lasts maybe 18 hours.
If i used 1/4 of my installed programs moderetely, my battery power lasts for about 10-12 hours.
I would like your professional advise to better by battery life.
1. Would changing my ROM to a better modified one solve my issue?
2. Is there a backround process (that is not detected my my task manager) working that I should know about?
3. Are there any tweaks (non registry) that I can do to better the life?
4. Are there any registry fixes that can be done to better the life?
5. Do third party cabs (SPB etc.) drain the battery life even if they are idle?
6. Does letting my battery fully drain and then fully charging it over and over really help the overall battery life?
FYI: I have the OEM ROM, my phone had never been Hard reseted before
I have tried all sorts of things, but I cannot manage to get my phone to last more than a day.
I would really appreciate your advise.
Thanks.
P.S please dont tell me that you people go 2-3 days without charging (that would hurt my feelings )

my kaiser lasts about 10 hours if heavily used, I mean 3G internet always on, browsing with opera mini all while listening to MP3s..
With normal usage and 3G coverage (but classic talks, not video ones) it last al least 2 days..
that's strange

Hi,
i managed to have good power after alot of research and tweaks on this forum.
-disable 3g service
-make sure no application auto-enable wifi, make sure its off.
-make sure device is set lock all buttons
on normal days with just afew calls and very little surfing, i my battery life is the same as other non-pda phones!

boojingyou said:
-make sure device is set lock all buttons
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What do you mean with locking all the buttons?

Would updating my RADIO help?

bluemamba said:
Would updating my RADIO help?
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Default ROM sucks. The registry is setup completely ineffecient (like all M$ software) so eats capacity and battery.
Best thing to do is check the 'Kaiser upgrading' thread and compare the radio version you have with what's posted there and see if you could improver performance. I'm still on the original radio that it cam with, but trying multiple Rom's dramatically improved battery life. That and speed and performance. Their is much to gain, my friend.
I advise you read the articles about CID and SIM unlocking before attemting to flash anything.

Upgrade your radio to 1.27.12.17/32, turn off 3G and flash some clean ROM (like Q-Mobile - see in my signature )
My phone can survive now more than 3 days on normal usage. Before it could live 2-3 days max.

Maybe can you enable alimentation tweaks with KaiserTweak to begin ?

MickyMax said:
Maybe can you enable alimentation tweaks with KaiserTweak to begin ?
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I dont think and fixes of those kind will do anything
I think what Maarten_0031 and gabriel31337 say is the obly way. I will reseach what kinda ROM best fits my need and let u know

I'm using Schap's and very happy with it...

MickyMax said:
I'm using Schap's and very happy with it...
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On average, how long does your bettery last?

2 / 3 days... Some phone calls, wifi and 3G
Much better than the HTC ROM !

MickyMax said:
2 / 3 days... Some phone calls, wifi and 3G
Much better than the HTC ROM !
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Very nice. I think i might try that.

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Battery Power Poor. Any advise?
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Spell correctly, charge it.

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Spell correctly, charge it.
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You spell correctly and keep to the topic

Just got my Kaiser yesterday. Left it to charge all night and removed it by 7:30 am. At 16:00, battery shows 14% left?!?!?!?
What the heck?
Did all the power tweaks from KaiserTweak.
Lets see how it goes without 3G and with the tweaks I did today.
ROM: 1.81.415.4 WWE
Radio 1.27.15.32
Protocol: 22.51.88.13H

it can't be stated enough how quickly your battery will die if you have your mailboxes checking for new mail 'as they come in' or 'every 5 minutes', etc. if you have important emails your expecting then turn it to those settings, but if you don't care if you get your mail only every hour then go that route - it makes a big difference in the battery life.. also make sure you have the disconnect option in kaiser tweak set on - i have mine set at disconnect after 2 minutes.. and finally, if you can get away with using edge then have your phone always set to edge and only set to 3g for web surfing - pulling down your text based email in edge and not 3g is usually a pretty negligible difference.
on a side note, i bought a 3000mAH battery for about $70.. it improves the battery life a decent amount, but the reality is is that if you use the GPS for 2-3 hours without having it plugged in while using the GPS then you can always expect the battery to be dead by the end of the day (or sooner).. if your going to use it as a GPS then have it plugged in..

its all about wifi...turn it off if not needed.

This has been discussed in many previous threads.
All the above are applicable and also get rid of any fancy today plugins that show data state (WiFi-phone) and battery condition as they are constantly running and polling the relevant devices.
You will see a VAST difference when you do that.

bad battery or software causing drain?

Had to hard reset my Tilt the other day, re-installed my software and seeing unusually quick battery drain. Phone has been in standby almost the entire time as I've been out of signal area. As far as I know the only software which is different than before is Dutty's 10 button comm manager, and maybe a few options in Kaisertweak, however I tried defaulting alot of the options and still seeing much faster drain than before.
Activesync usually shows up running under programs, I shut it down, but it of course restarts.
Nothing shows running under memory
Program memory shows 101.38 total, 32.58 in use.
ATT Tilt running original rom.
Installed software:
HTC Album
HTC Camera 5.x
HTC Home
Kaisertweak
Advanced config
PHM regedit
live search
HTC GPS tool
Opera mini
vibra switch
WiFiFoFum2
pocket nester+
enable band switch
TCPMP and Flash bundle
PTT fix
Any suggestions as to what could be causing the problem? If not I guess next step is hard reset and test battery life. If still draining fast guess I'll replace the battery, if not I'll have to install everything 1 program at a time.

Well, I had an issue with RSS Hub causing my battery to drain completely in just under 6 hours.
However, to be fair I now have all sorts of hardware issues, so it could have been faulty/failing hardware the whole time.
It does sound like a radio or hardware issue.
#1 I suggest you try re-seating the battery, and see if that does not get rid of some of the issues: I have had a weak connection on one of the terminal points cut my battery time by half before.
#2 Re-seat your sim card.
#3 Try a different radio rom, Because you were out of signal range it could have been using up your battery searching for a signal/maintaining a weak signal constantly.

thanks fenny. I wasnt having any problems with my battery life or reception but just for the hell of it I cleaned my battery. Before I took it out I had about 25% charge left, after I cleaned and put it back in I had a little over 50% charge. Ive also noticed that my battery life is better and my reception improved as well.

behrouz said:
thanks fenny. I wasnt having any problems with my battery life or reception but just for the hell of it I cleaned my battery. Before I took it out I had about 25% charge left, after I cleaned and put it back in I had a little over 50% charge. Ive also noticed that my battery life is better and my reception improved as well.
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When I cleaned my battery contacts, I changed back to a human from a newt! I feel better!

khaytsus said:
When I cleaned my battery contacts, I changed back to a human from a newt! I feel better!
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Ill probably get banned but I dont care.
Go back **** yourself asshole.

Rapid battery drain (under 7hrs)

Hi all,
over the last 2 weeks i have noticed my diamond getting pretty damn hot on random occasions and really chewing through the battery, i have run task manager when this occurs but no process is shown using alot of CPU.
I have read alot of threads on here descibing similar symptoms, some are just people who have wifi on or using CPU intensive applications, this i expect. But a few other users have described symptoms similar to mine where they are not using the phone and nothing appears to be running.
I am getting the problem with both my original HTC battery and the 3rd party spare i brought.
From reading the board the only definite cure seems to be a hard reset.
What im really after is any suggestions you people may have that can help me determin the actual cause of the problem, for example is their any software that will log CPU usuage over time or other diagnostic ideas.
thanks for your time

checking email regularly?
rumpleforeskin said:
Hi all,
over the last 2 weeks i have noticed my diamond getting pretty damn hot on random occasions and really chewing through the battery, i have run task manager when this occurs but no process is shown using alot of CPU.
I have read alot of threads on here descibing similar symptoms, some are just people who have wifi on or using CPU intensive applications, this i expect. But a few other users have described symptoms similar to mine where they are not using the phone and nothing appears to be running.
I am getting the problem with both my original HTC battery and the 3rd party spare i brought.
From reading the board the only definite cure seems to be a hard reset.
What im really after is any suggestions you people may have that can help me determin the actual cause of the problem, for example is their any software that will log CPU usuage over time or other diagnostic ideas.
thanks for your time
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Maybe you might wanna check if you have the automatic mail checking feature on? Because I noticed that whenever I let my phone automatically look for email quite regularly (i.e. every 5 or 10 mins) it drains more battery then when you set it to check email every 2 hours for instance. Well that's what has helped in my case...hope this helps...

I have looked at my mail settings and my mail checks every 2 hours, i have had it set to 2 hours since i had the device (6 months) but this rapid battery drain has only started occuring in the last 2 weeks.
In that time i have not installed any new software, so am at a loose end as to the cause of the trouble

Hello,
I did had the same symptom : worked really good for 6 months (battery lasted for 30h +-) and in one time, battery was sucked out in 8 ! I did buy a new one (900mah) and it did the same. The only solution I find was to buy the 1350mah (htc) one and from this moment it last more than 2 days without any problem.
Also, I use G-light in place of the standard windows function and from this moment I really had a difference (from BatLog I went from 142mah to 123mah).
Hope it help (yeah I know: buying a bigger battery is not fun but for a device at this price, it's not so much...)

costp said:
Hello,
I did had the same symptom : worked really good for 6 months (battery lasted for 30h +-) and in one time, battery was sucked out in 8 ! I did buy a new one (900mah) and it did the same. The only solution I find was to buy the 1350mah (htc) one and from this moment it last more than 2 days without any problem.
Also, I use G-light in place of the standard windows function and from this moment I really had a difference (from BatLog I went from 142mah to 123mah).
Hope it help (yeah I know: buying a bigger battery is not fun but for a device at this price, it's not so much...)
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thanks for the feedback, i will order a new battery and give it a try, at the least it will prove if the problem is hardware or software related.
today my phone still has 63% battery since i removed it from charge at 11pm last night. The fact that the problem is intermittent is making it very dificult to diagnose.

Today I noticed my wi-fi drains battery as hell, it was lie 60%+ of battery down in less than 40 minutes. In the past it was like 40% max. The PowerGuard's current meter did not show anything alarming. So the problem seems to be hardware.
Already backed up and hard resetted. The phone is under warranty and so is battery; sending it to service to get it fixed.
Or, I missed something and I can fix it?

Hey,
Yeah I'm currently experiencing the same problem.. I tired just about everything from battery fix cab, radios, to roms. I even got the orginal extended battery. The battery worked really well for like 2 weeks and then it started to drain really fast as well.. My cousin have the same phone as me HTC Diamond, and his battery is verry good.. It can last a whole day with heavy usage no problem. Where as my 1340MAH battery would only lask for 14hrs max with heavy usage, and when we switch the battery same stuff happens... His battery on my phone drains quickly and mine last long on his phone...
So I came to the conclusion that it's definitely a hardware issue.

For those without battery problem, how much usage do you get out of a battery and what kind of things do you do with the phone? I'm just trying to gauge how bad my batter is. It will last about 8-9 hours, but that's with hald of that time spent on the internet on either 3g or edge. I've only had the phone for about a week so it's hard for me to compare it to anything else.

other little things like disabling autobacklight and disabling 3G will help as well.
rgds

One of the things you might want to check is if your phone is constantly trying to switch from 2g to 3g or HSPDA. This constant searching for a "faster" signal can make the phone quite hot and drain the battery quite quickly.
I had it on my diamond when I used to live at my old place as it was right on the edge of a 2g/HSPDA and the phone was constantly trying to get a decent HSPDA signal. The battery would last maybe half a day if I was lucky. Since moving to a decent 3g area, the battery now lasts me a good 2 days on nomal usage. This is with the original battery.

jfran said:
other little things like disabling autobacklight and disabling 3G will help as well.
rgds
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a good tip to save battery power which is something we all have to do, but i do not think its the cause of my new found rapid battery drain.
The last 6 moths i have been getting around a day to day and a half rom the the phone. now on random occasions ot will get real hot (like the gps/wifi is on or like the cpu is flat out) and the power goes in a few hours.
this is fine if its daytime and catch it but a few times its gone from 100% to 0% overnight and i have woken late for work.
Graffen said:
One of the things you might want to check is if your phone is constantly trying to switch from 2g to 3g or HSPDA. This constant searching for a "faster" signal can make the phone quite hot and drain the battery quite quickly.
I had it on my diamond when I used to live at my old place as it was right on the edge of a 2g/HSPDA and the phone was constantly trying to get a decent HSPDA signal. The battery would last maybe half a day if I was lucky. Since moving to a decent 3g area, the battery now lasts me a good 2 days on nomal usage. This is with the original battery.
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interesting, i will leave the phone on 2G for the next few weeks and see if i experiance the rapid drain, maybe i am on the edge of a 2G 3G nexus, as i do get a fairly weak signal here (2 bars 3G and full bars 2G)
thanks for the suggestion

rumpleforeskin said:
interesting, i will leave the phone on 2G for the next few weeks and see if i experiance the rapid drain, maybe i am on the edge of a 2G 3G nexus, as i do get a fairly weak signal here (2 bars 3G and full bars 2G)
thanks for the suggestion
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From you last sentance it does sound like it the 2g/3g switching that is cauing your problems.

i have this issue too.
my phone will drain ~5-7% every hour in standby. and when wifi is on it drains 2% every minute even staying on the home screen and me not doing anything on the phone.
from reading this thread, i can see that this is definitely not normal. looks like i'm headed for a dreaded hard reset...

Good day to all. At first sorry form my eanglish/
I have a same problem with diamond. It is overheating while charging at standby (battery temp. is about 50 C), and if it charges by USB, the battery temp is about 46 - 47 C. The phone's fly mode is switch on. HTC service couldn't answer me smth. But it says that same problem have 2 diamond from 1000, and only way to resolve problem is a change of mother board. in Russia it's about 250 euro.

And one more notice, which battery temp is 46 or 47 C, charging automaticaly switched off... Phone heating, but battery is not charging !!!

i've resolve problem...but don't know how i did it. I try to recharging stock acc. while 4 or 5 cicles, and today i have workable Diamond.
not discharge
not overheating
it's so strange, but it works

BATTERY DRAIN in 1NIGHT from 100-0! why?

okay i'm using slide2unlock and tomtom7 black 7.9.....
before i start tomtom the gps status led isnt active.(doesnt show up orange)
while using tomtom it is active
after using tomtom7 it is still active even if tomtom is closed by taskmanager.
used rom is KaiserHTC_GER_1.56.407.3Reconstructed
radio is 1.27.15.32(1.71 isnt working with this rom!)
does the active led show up that gpsreciver is still runing after closing tomtom?(if it is how to shutdown gps module w/o restarting the device?)
TOMTOM ISNT INSTALLED BY CAB! it is COPIED TO SDCARD!
is there any way to disable gps with an programm?(htc gps tool?)
thanks!

You can try GPS Tools .. and if you have Advance Task Manager, you can kill the process / services ..

the reason your batt is draining so quickly could possibly be attributed to the overal battery life. you might need a new battery

poppinpengawen said:
the reason your batt is draining so quickly could possibly be attributed to the overal battery life. you might need a new battery
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how long is this batterylife in average? 1 year 2 years? 6months? are the batterys like mugen 3000mA bigger than std?/do they need new backcover?

The life of a Lithium-Polymer battery, at least in my experience, is a couple of years more or less, depending on how much I use it, charge it, etc. And assuming that your battery is shot, a quick search at amazon.com led me to stock batteries and extended ones.
However, to truly know if it's a battery hardware problem, you need to know whether this happened gradually; over days, weeks and months; or if this just spontaneously started one night.
If it gradually declined, it's could be your battery itself, but if it just happened one day, then I would guess that your GPS or cellular/data connection is active and in use all night, or some misbehaving program isn't letting your device sleep properly.
Dave

DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
The life of a Lithium-Polymer battery, at least in my experience, is a couple of years more or less, depending on how much I use it, charge it, etc. And assuming that your battery is shot, a quick search at amazon.com led me to stock batteries and extended ones.
However, to truly know if it's a battery hardware problem, you need to know whether this happened gradually; over days, weeks and months; or if this just spontaneously started one night.
If it gradually declined, it's could be your battery itself, but if it just happened one day, then I would guess that your GPS or cellular/data connection is active and in use all night, or some misbehaving program isn't letting your device sleep properly.
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thanks for your help

Battery Life hacks? Which one?

Hi,
I came across this cab file today for the Kaiser http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2132767&postcount=151
its right said:
ok guys, some of you want to increase the battery life, i attached a cab file which contains these registries:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\L2TP1\Parms]
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Irsir1\Parms]
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\AsyncMac1\Parms]
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\PPTP1\Parms]
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\L2TP1\Parms]
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:0
all of these can improve the battery life, but if you face any issues with WiFi, just check these registries .
enjoy.
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Has this been used in preference to, or in conjuction with the cab found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1351827&postcount=6
Power Saving.cab
sd-battery-save.cab
I have spent about an hour trolling through all sorts of posts and would like any feedback on what is recommended.
Thanks in advance.

anyone have any comments? surely im not the only one trying to get a full day out of the stock battery.

This is the best hack out there.
http://cgi.ebay.com/AT-T-TILT-8925-...s?hash=item1c05a465c2&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

if I not wrong, sp call battery hack ..it not really hack to battery, It only reduce the phone keep searching the network (which consume a lot battery ...according to some forum).
I think this one better ..2800mah ...
http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2...00-110-120-O2-XDA-Stellar-2800mAh-Battery.htm

My phone will last about 3 days by measurement if I'm not running Flexmail with two mailboxes online. Otherwise, 14 hours.
Want a full day out of your Tilt? Limit network activities, or interactive activities, and don't use the GPS. Network, backlight, and GPS are probably the biggest power users on the Tilt. I assume WiFi too, but the only thing I've used WiFi on my Tilt is for scanning for open access points.

Sorry bumping thread couple of months old....
I've got a Kaiser HTC TyTN II and my battery is a shame.... i can't get it until the end of the day, always getting empty at the end of the day....
What can i do to improve the battery life time?
I've installed those cabs, but nothing really happens....
My phone idle during the night takes like 20-25% of the total battery.
I just use my phone to make and receive calls (lot of them), and sometimes the bluetooth when staying at the car.
Some time ago i ordered a 2800mah battery, but i really don't want to carry always a replacement battery with me, besides its really heavy and big....
Thank you for you advices.

xpgo said:
Sorry bumping thread couple of months old....
I've got a Kaiser HTC TyTN II and my battery is a shame.... i can't get it until the end of the day, always getting empty at the end of the day....
What can i do to improve the battery life time?
I've installed those cabs, but nothing really happens....
My phone idle during the night takes like 20-25% of the total battery.
I just use my phone to make and receive calls (lot of them), and sometimes the bluetooth when staying at the car.
Some time ago i ordered a 2800mah battery, but i really don't want to carry always a replacement battery with me, besides its really heavy and big....
Thank you for you advices.
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There's an old saying begars can't be choosers... Kinda makes sense you want better battery life yet you want to stick to stock battery.
Ummmm? Buy a OEM new stock battery if the size of 2800 is too much? To be honest the Tilt is a brick anyway so i'm happy to have aprx 1cm added to the base... Also maybe time to try all the Radio's available to see if you can get better battery life, while @ it hard-reset device to start from fresh