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Can someone explain Manila 2D to me please

Hi,
I know this might sound like a freaking dumb question, but I don't really understand the Manilla 2D software. I was hoing someone could just explain it to me and whether my ATT Tilt (default 6.1) can handle it + 2gb card can handle it.
I would like something with the cool Diamond music player, e-mail displayer, etc and I was waiting for lilCrazyBoy's diamond-lookalike skin for ThrottleLaunch since that was the closest I had found to the actual Diamond but does Manila 2d do the same thing?
Sorry if its a dumb question but your explanation will be greater appreciated.

The stock ROM can take Manila and it runs great. Download the file to the storage card but install Manila to the main memory. It works great using the touchscreen, Dpad or scroll wheel- great software. It doesn't work in landscape mode (it stays in portrait mode all the time) but it's a minor price to pay for such a good interface...

bugsykoosh said:
The stock ROM can take Manila and it runs great. Download the file to the storage card but install Manila to the main memory. It works great using the touchscreen, Dpad or scroll wheel- great software. It doesn't work in landscape mode (it stays in portrait mode all the time) but it's a minor price to pay for such a good interface...
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cool, thanks. I only really use landscape for texting so that shouldn't be a problem. Now to see if i should wait for the final release to just use the beta for now. it looks so nice though.

XBmod Manila HD on the Touch Pro

OK, here's the thing.
I'm sure most of you have stumbled upon the XBmod Manila HD port for the Diamond: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470164
If not, take a look.
Anyhow, I'm using an unbranded HTC Touch Pro with a stock ROM. The installation goes through nicely, and asks for a reboot.
After it reboots, the loading icon shows up for a minute, and then I'm getting an error regarding the Loader.exe. If I press details, it says that some files are missing, but does not mention which files.
My question is: has anyone successfully installed and is using the Manilla HD on a stock ROM Touch Pro?
Any ideas on what may be the difference between the Diamond and Touch Pro that could cause this issue?
Thanks!

the only problem is when you flip to landscape, it still tries to display portrait. this ca n be fixed by opening the program you want in portrait, then slide out keyboard, it will flip to landscape. then when you're done, flip back and exit. if you've got some patience, herg is working on hd manila specifically for tpro. can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3169896&postcount=825

vader165 said:
if you've got some patience, herg is working on hd manila specifically for tpro. can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3169896&postcount=825
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That's good to know! I can wait... the version will probably work better with th TP anyhow.
Thanks for the info!

Spec's
Sprint Touch Pro Jigga's ROM...
HD Manila runs just fine, even installed the extra tab cab XBmod had going...so now got's me 15 tab HD.
Stocks are nice, and he's stretched the weather out a bit...
I did miss Jigga's cooked in Zoom In / Zoom Out Text, so I re-installed that from the customizing TF3D thread, and can report that this does work on HD...
Good Stuff!
I never installed the loader or anything, just make sure your on-screen keyboard is open when you are about to hit ok to activate TF3D as your today screen plugin. Pop's up in about 5-seconds...
l8r

chAz15 said:
Spec's
Sprint Touch Pro Jigga's ROM...
HD Manila runs just fine, even installed the extra tab cab XBmod had going...so now got's me 15 tab HD.
Stocks are nice, and he's stretched the weather out a bit...
I did miss Jigga's cooked in Zoom In / Zoom Out Text, so I re-installed that from the customizing TF3D thread, and can report that this does work on HD...
Good Stuff!
I never installed the loader or anything, just make sure your on-screen keyboard is open when you are about to hit ok to activate TF3D as your today screen plugin. Pop's up in about 5-seconds...
l8r
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Hi can you post the cab from Jigga, please?
Thx in advance

Why not just run the new TF3D2 on your phone instead...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493531

New to Diamond2, just required some basic help.

Hi everybody, I recently got a Diamond2 and found that the enormous amount of expertise and help available at xda-developers have really helped me enjoy this phone. The phone is not locally supported by any carriers or retailers in Canada so the availability of these forums have been a real help. I've run through most of the issues I've had with the phone (really like the Pro2 Interface better but was way to bulky) but have a few remaining that I haven't been able to find satisfactory answers for, hope you guys will be able to help.
I've downloaded and played around with what seem to be most of the prerequisite softwares: Advanced Config Tool, Klaxon, Changescreen etc. and have also made a couple of registry modifications to enable TF3D rotation and things like that. Here is where I'm getting into a bit of trouble. Although changescreen is a great app I just don't like to install a lot of things on my device and decided to try the regedit. After a soft reset it seemed to work great but was quite slow in switching over to landscape and back. At first I though this was a problem with the g-sensor so I opened up Opera to try it out and found that it was much faster. Obviously it's a lot less graphically intense but I was playing around with a Touch Pro2 before I bought the Diamond2 and it is also significantly faster, with the same processor and everything. I've tried to reduce the sampling time for the g-sensor down from 200ms to 100ms in ACT but that didn't really seem to help. Also I get some really weird lines across the tops of TF3D pages in landscape; in the All Contacts page for example the bar that contains "Search Contacts" will have at least three sets of distorted lines across it at regular intervals across the page. The wallpaper also seems to malfunction as instead of staying as it was, it will stretch across the width of the screen and as a result become extremely distorted. The dialer doesn't go into landscape but that seems to be a common issue. I've downloaded the Rhodium Phone Dialer although I haven't had a chance to install it yet, maybe that will fix the dialer issue.
I do have some app installed that changes the background of all tabs to be the same and this seems to have messed with the transparency of the tab bar and, occasionally the phone will fail to respond to screen swipes that would usually cycle through the tabs without using the tab bar. Maybe this app is also causing the other problems.
The help on these forums has already been a great asset and I was just hoping that I would be able to get some simple fixes for the issues with the landscape thing without having to install more software. Thanks in advance for any help, its all appreciated. Cheers.
PS, rom is 1.39.421.0 (47382) WWE

what you can do to improve things:
1. ditch stock rom and use tess rom
2. install flipit for rotation software - its better than the rest IMO

Thanks for the quick reply
Thanks for the quick reply, sorry I wasn't able to reply right away, got a bit busy at uni.
I was a bit apprehensive about installing a new rom but the one you recommended is amazing. The speed increase alone is unbelievable, doesn't even feel like the same device.
Everything is working great and the rotation is really fast now on everything except TF3D. It almost looks like it attempts to rotate and then fails. The title bars rotate around and then rotate back. I've added the regedit, manually removed and added it back into flip_it, but nothing seems to be working. Aside from that everything else seems perfect. Hope you'll be able to help, and once again, thanks.

oh yeah.. forgot to mention about manila in landscape
go to search and look for At0mAng & Danny_and_2 TF3D2 Tweak cab for topaz
install, and in the list of programs, there is option called Manila Rotate ON.
and thats it, you are all set...
hope this helps

joseph.sapri said:
1. ditch stock rom and use tess rom
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Can I ask where to read and get this rom?
I am also new to Topaz.
Running on stock ROM
been reading around. reading on the various rom threads to decide which to use.
I am looking for something stable, fast (aren't we all?) and 6.1. Still got Manila and hopefully with Titanium built in. Also if possible with ringtones removed.
What would you recommend?
Thanks

Goondu said:
Can I ask where to read and get this rom?
I am also new to Topaz.
Running on stock ROM
been reading around. reading on the various rom threads to decide which to use.
I am looking for something stable, fast (aren't we all?) and 6.1. Still got Manila and hopefully with Titanium built in. Also if possible with ringtones removed.
What would you recommend?
Thanks
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tess = topaz essential
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529260

Almost there
Thanks for the tip about the tweak program, installed it and followed your directions, manila is now rotating. However, its still incredibly slow; in the range of 3-5 seconds for transition to landscape and then around 1-2 seconds back to portrait. Also, those distortive lines I described earlier are back.
I was hoping for the kind of speed seen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPVgN5QuzO4 but I do realize that its a different rom. I've disabled and enabled TF3D and also done a soft reset, but no speed increase. I was thinking it may be a hardware issue but everything else works fine. One thing I have noticed though is that since installing this rom some programs get stuck half rotated and the other half of the screen will display the TF3D home page. Once again, thanks for all the help so far.
P.S. If I disable TF3D the blank today screen will rotate at the same speed as in that video if not faster. Also before when the menus rotated but not TF3D they were rotating at the same fast speed.

yes, I know what you mean.. at this stage, manila rotates pretty slow for me too...
I guess at the moment, we have to live with it... the slow rotation only happens on tf3d2 rite? the rest is ok...
as with hardware issue, I am sure it is not, cause topaz is still relatively new...
btw, Manila 2.1 is around, and manila 2.5 is coming too... so, maybe they would give better performance .
btw, the youtube link is a rom made by Tom Condon, and as you probably know, he is very active in building rom for topaz too... why dont you give him a message, or try his rom...
Tha

sorry double post again..

Sounds good
Glad to know that it wasn't just a one off issue. I'll give his rom a shot, was kind of wary b/c of the comments that said WM 6.5 was slow. Would you be able to direct me to somewhere that I'd be able to download TF3D 2.1 alone without a rom upgrade or anything or maybe even cooked into the TESS rom. Thanks for the incredible quick reply and for all the help so far.

mukhan said:
Glad to know that it wasn't just a one off issue. I'll give his rom a shot, was kind of wary b/c of the comments that said WM 6.5 was slow. Would you be able to direct me to somewhere that I'd be able to download TF3D 2.1 alone without a rom upgrade or anything or maybe even cooked into the TESS rom. Thanks for the incredible quick reply and for all the help so far.
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if you follow tess forum, then the next release would have manila 2.1

Thanks
Ye, sorry about that didn't quite follow the forum all the way, I guess I'll be waiting. Thanks man.

Questions and my opinion on the TD2, read

just bought a TD2 yesturday and managed to flash dutty's holy grail r6.
I used to have the xperia and didn't like it. I'm having a similar feeling with the diamond 2; they both looked good on screen. I think its just Windows Mobile thats uncomfortable. Also, capacitive > resistive. The only reason i can remotely even use this phone is because of my fingerNAILS. When you use an iPod touch for over a year, you'll start to notice the difference of responsiveness.
Some questions I have; help is appreciated:
1) Word Mobile can't turn sideways to use the landscape keyboard? Is there a way to be able to make EVERYTHING go landscape (when i tilt the phone), including the homescreens? (xperia was able to when i slide out the keyboard)
2) Why are there those unnecessary up, down, left, right, arrow keys on the keyboard? I never use them and they have become hindrances. When I go on windows live messenger and use the landscape keyboard, I cant see what im typing because the keyboard takes up almost the whole screen.
3) Can i have more then 15 favorite contacts in the contacts grid tab? (i have manila 2.5)
4) Some of my songs are in another language, so their names are in blocks of letters (when i play them in the music player) instead of proper symbols (chinese, etc).
5) Even after upgrading to dutty's rom, the phone still feels sluggish (music player), SLOW, unresponsive at times. None of my above inquiries would be a problem if the phone was super fast; it would compensate for all faults.

arikado said:
just bought a TD2 yesturday and managed to flash dutty's holy grail r6.
I used to have the xperia and didn't like it. I'm having a similar feeling with the diamond 2; they both looked good on screen. I think its just Windows Mobile thats uncomfortable. Also, capacitive > resistive. The only reason i can remotely even use this phone is because of my fingerNAILS. When you use an iPod touch for over a year, you'll start to notice the difference of responsiveness.
Some questions I have; help is appreciated:
1) Word Mobile can't turn sideways to use the landscape keyboard? Is there a way to be able to make EVERYTHING go landscape (when i tilt the phone), including the homescreens? (xperia was able to when i slide out the keyboard)
2) Why are there those unnecessary up, down, left, right, arrow keys on the keyboard? I never use them and they have become hindrances. When I go on windows live messenger and use the landscape keyboard, I cant see what im typing because the keyboard takes up almost the whole screen.
3) Can i have more then 15 favorite contacts in the contacts grid tab? (i have manila 2.5)
4) Some of my songs are in another language, so their names are in blocks of letters (when i play them in the music player) instead of proper symbols (chinese, etc).
5) Even after upgrading to dutty's rom, the phone still feels sluggish (music player), SLOW, unresponsive at times. None of my above inquiries would be a problem if the phone was super fast; it would compensate for all faults.
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1. Download TD2 Tools, there is a G-Config menu that allows you to specify what rotates.
2. We lost navigation keys with the invent of the scroll bar so.... They got to be somewhere. Change your SIP will resolve this. I use Touch Pal.
3. No. 15 Comntracts is all you can load in teh contacts tab, however you can download Max Manila Themes which will give you 20 shortcuts on your home screen that can be assigned to additional contacts.
4. I know Dutty has language support but not sure how that works. Sorry.
5. I have no issues with this ROM other than the WM6.5 SMS slowdown bug.
I assume you have followed protocol and hard reset after flash?
When you first go to Pics or Music tab, it will be slow at first until everything caches.
Hope this helps. Once you check out max Manila Themes you'll be much happier.

Bruce Inman said:
1. Download TD2 Tools, there is a G-Config menu that allows you to specify what rotates.
2. We lost navigation keys with the invent of the scroll bar so.... They got to be somewhere. Change your SIP will resolve this. I use Touch Pal.
3. No. 15 Comntracts is all you can load in teh contacts tab, however you can download Max Manila Themes which will give you 20 shortcuts on your home screen that can be assigned to additional contacts.
4. I know Dutty has language support but not sure how that works. Sorry.
5. I have no issues with this ROM other than the WM6.5 SMS slowdown bug.
I assume you have followed protocol and hard reset after flash?
When you first go to Pics or Music tab, it will be slow at first until everything caches.
Hope this helps. Once you check out max Manila Themes you'll be much happier.
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Thanks for the reply Bruce
1) I downloaded the TD2 tools, and added pocketword and wordpad to the whitelist in G-sensor. However, it doesnt work after reseting the phone and they disappear on the list when i go back to check. Same issue with "Enable touchflo3D in landscape".
2) is there another way to change the keyboard? one with unnescessary arrow keys (and other keys) and BIGGER qwerty but LESSER space taken up
5) Ahh, i just feel SO frustrated at the unresponsiveness of these phones. Even after upgrading to a nice rom (dutty's) i dont understand why WinMo is so uncomfortable to use.
Its ridiuclous to type with the onscreen keyboard, both portrait and landscape. Has anyone tried the Hero's? because its capacitive, it actually reads my fingers. I have to grow my fingernails to use this phone productively.
I bought this phone to use it's Word capabilities, calendar appointments, and live messenger, not to mention the very important SMS.
but each one of these has their own faults.
word wont rotate, calendar won't either, i cant see what im typing on messenger, and SMS is slow.
Its ABSURD.
Is there a way to delete or change something in the phone that makes the phone go FASTER? or rather the typing on the keyboard

Another ISSUE.....
Why on EARTH can't I play music (TouchFlo's music player) with the screen off (sleep mode)?? Once i press the power to sleep, the music stops.

If you want an good audio player that also allows you to turn off the screen, must you use Nitrogen.
Swype, instead, is a keyboard that has keys sufficiently large and it don't has the arrow keys.

luigug said:
If you want an good audio player that also allows you to turn off the screen, must you use Nitrogen.
Swype, instead, is a keyboard that has keys sufficiently large and it don't has the arrow keys.
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I like the HTC music player, and to not use other ones. Is there anyway to make the music player during sleep mode??
I'm also familiar with that Swype method but I'm really just interested in a normal qwerty keyboard with large, responsive keys that dont take up so much of the screen.
Thanks for the suggestions though
can you guys please help me? im really in the verge of selling this phone (but its hard to sell it)

However, with the stock rom wm 6.5, if you have setted the deactivation of pda after for example 1 minute, after this period the device will sleep and the htc player will continue to work.
For the input, you also can try Resco keyboard or the other lot of keyboards for wm.
The strength of winmo, unlike other operative systems, is that you can always find a solution to everything ...

Some quick comments:
4) If you are looking specifically for Chinese (CHT/CHS) I use a cab file found on XDA... do a quick search for "uhei00m-gray.cab" file and this should help you. Works well for Touch HD Leo ROMs and my wife's TD2's stock 6.5 ROM.
5) I have use dutty's Leo ROM in my Touch HD before, and the sluggish-ness is due to the Leo build (cover-flow). My wife's 6.5 stock rom (without cover flow) works find without any delay/sluggishness. Keep in mind, the Leo ROM was built for HD2 with has 1GHz CPU to handle the intense graphics.
2) Keyboard, I have been using the TD2 & THD keyboard without the need for finger nail. I think just like iPhone, it takes some time to ramp up (2-3 weeks) when I used it for a short-while.
Good luck, and I think the form factor for TD2 is great! (especially for my wife who cannot stand THD size).

M2D Landscape Workaround??

Can anyone point me to the CAB that corrects the landscape issue for M2D? I found one posted by mbavarian but the link is dead. I'm running -shifu- WWE 6.1 ROM on my ATT Tilt. Nice ROM but when you end a program and return to the Today screen it returns to portrait mode even though the keyboard is slid out.
Thanks!!

I would be interested in this too-I was not aware that there was a "fix," as M2D was never designed to work in landscape unlike newer versions of TF3D that have it built in.

As stated it was never created to run in landscape mode. There are fixes but all the ones I have tried have been pointless. If you want a fully fledged and supported device for landscape mode, then run a stock rom.

There is a fix based on mbv's by shifu it's not a 100% fix as works via mort to create a action screen when keyboard opened, i'm mobile @ mo so cant give direct link but click my ROM in sig and work from back of thread as i linked it for users, to be honest if you like m2d then you get used to the nuance of landscape and work around it...

Ok, thanks guys! Will live with nuance of portrait mode. Love M2D home screen.

I still have the file. I believe this is what you are talking about. Its a bit slow to rotate but it does work.

Yes, that's it! Thanks!!