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Hey guys on my 6800 when dialing a number it says what state the area code is, how can i get this feature on my Tilt?? thank you
and is it possible to have it while calling in?? thanks
I think that's just a Sprint feature.
I used to have it on my cell phone with Sprint, and you say you have it on your Mogul now. I've had Windows Mobile phones on T-Mobile and now AT&T, and neither has it.
Someone correct me if you've ever seen the state name displayed next to a phone number on the screen of any phone other than Sprint.
Yeah almost all my sprint phones had that feature, damnit i find it rather usefull sometimes when i refuse to answer a call and find out who it can possibly be.. Well if anyone knows how to get this on our phones, i know they have it for the mogul, so it must be somewhere in the rom...
Sometimes I am amazed at the lack of applications for WM5/WM6 versus the Palm. I had a Treo before the Tilt and no matter what, there seemed to be a program for everything, including AreaCodes. When I cam to Windows, I assumed there would be 1,000's more, but it is simply not true!
Sorry for that......
You would think it would be pretty simple... just have the phone display the state name matched from a list of all the area codes and their states...
Maybe someone can cook a cab? I would if i know how to do it
Hello
I live in southern california and have an att tilt. Currently, my reception sucks. I am not sure if it is the phone or the network because my wife also has att and her reception is always better.
Is there any software that I can install that will help the reception? As well I have kaiser tweak. Is there any setting I can change to help on that?
As well, in Kaiser tweak, the default setting for contacts is to show both sim and address book contacts. I know I can change this with Kaiser tweak, but when I have to reset my phone, it goes back to default. Is there a way to change it to just show address book even if phone is reset?
Thank You
Adam Birozy
Check her Radio. If you you aren't running the same Radio version as her, change you Radio and see if that helps.
If you are running the same Radio as her, which is all too possible, you might consider trying other Radios.
EDIT: Yup I read it wrong. I assumed your wife had a Tilt, My mistake... anyway. Try different Radio's than.
Different Phones
Adam,
I am in L.A. too and I laugh every time I see the AT&T "More Bars In More Places" commercial. There are so many absolute dead zones in my life around AT&T that I can't fathom how they get away with it.
That said, while I have NO ability to get a signal in my house (AT&T coverage map calls it "Moderate" which is AT&T speak for "NONE"), others have had better luck.
A friend with a blackberry got 1 bar, and a vendor with a standard clamshell phone (not a PPC, BB, etc) had a full complement.
I suspect that your wife does not have a Tilt. Perhaps she has a phone with an extendable antenna? If so, and you might want to mention back in a reply, that may be part of your answer.
I noticed my signal jump a tad when i switched to an EMO radio. You might want to give it a shot if your ROM will support it
FOUR THINGS YOU PROBABLY NEVER KNEW YOUR MOBILE PHONE COULD DO
There are a few things that can be done in times of grave emergencies. Your mobile phone can actually be a life saver or an emergency tool for survival. Check out the things that you can do with it:
FIRST Emergency
The Emergency Number worldwide for Mobile is 112. If you find yourself out of the coverage area of your mobile; network and there is an emergency, dial 112 and the mobile will search any existing network to establish the emergency number for you, and interestingly this number 112 can be dialed even if the keypad is locked. Try it out.
SECOND have you locked your keys in the car?
Does your car have remote keyless entry? This may come in handy someday. Good reason to own a cell phone: If you lock your keys in the car and the spare keys are at home, call someone at home on their mobile phone from your cell phone.
Hold your cell phone about a foot from your car door and have the person at your home press the unlock button, holding it near the mobile phone on their end. Your car will unlock. This saves someone from having to drive your keys to you. Distance is no object. You could be hundreds of miles away, and if you can reach someone who has the other 'remote' for your car, you can unlock the doors (or the trunk).
THIRD Hidden Battery Power
Imagine your mobile battery is very low. To activate, press the keys *3370# Your mobile will restart with this reserve and the instrument will show a 50% increase in battery. This reserve will get charged when you charge your mobile next time.
FOURTH How to disable a STOLEN mobile phone?
To check your Mobile phone's serial number, key in the following digits on your phone: * # 0 6 #
A 15 digit code will appear on the screen. This number is unique to your handset. Write it down and keep it somewhere safe. When your phone get stolen, you can phone your service provider and give them this code. They will then be able to block your handset so even if the thief changes the SIM card, your phone will be totally useless. You probably won't get your phone back, but at least you know that whoever stole it can't use/sell it either. If everybody does this, there would be no point in people stealing mobile phones.
How many more times is this nonsense going to be peddled around the internet?
Only the fourth one is correct in all the facts.
112 works from any phone, but - use your brain, how would it work if you're not in network coverage?
The other two I'm not even going to dignify with a response!
Sorry if that sounds harsh, but what waste of time and resources (which I've just contributed to!)
66mustang said:
How many more times is this nonsense going to be peddled around the internet?
Only the fourth one is correct in all the facts.
112 works from any phone, but - use your brain, how would it work if you're not in network coverage?...
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mobilemate said:
..... If you find yourself out of the coverage area of your mobile; network and there is an emergency, dial 112 and the mobile will search any existing network
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He didn't say NO network coverage, he said YOUR network.
That said, the car unlocking sounds a bit BS to me
50% hidden battery power is crazy too. There'd have to be another battery half as big inside.
The car unlocking part DOES actually work; I've tried it. It very much depends on the phone at either end though.
FloatingFatMan said:
The car unlocking part DOES actually work; I've tried it. It very much depends on the phone at either end though.
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No, it doesn't. You can't transmit radio frequencies over a voice line. You could no more do it with a sink plunger than with your mobile phone.
The short code for the extra battery life is just one that changes the audio compression, and, I'm lead to believe, increases battery use.
mobilemate said:
FOUR THINGS YOU PROBABLY NEVER KNEW YOUR MOBILE PHONE COULD DO
There are a few things that can be done in times of grave emergencies. Your mobile phone can actually be a life saver or an emergency tool for survival. Check out the things that you can do with it:
FIRST Emergency
The Emergency Number worldwide for Mobile is 112. If you find yourself out of the coverage area of your mobile; network and there is an emergency, dial 112 and the mobile will search any existing network to establish the emergency number for you, and interestingly this number 112 can be dialed even if the keypad is locked. Try it out.
SECOND have you locked your keys in the car?
Does your car have remote keyless entry? This may come in handy someday. Good reason to own a cell phone: If you lock your keys in the car and the spare keys are at home, call someone at home on their mobile phone from your cell phone.
Hold your cell phone about a foot from your car door and have the person at your home press the unlock button, holding it near the mobile phone on their end. Your car will unlock. This saves someone from having to drive your keys to you. Distance is no object. You could be hundreds of miles away, and if you can reach someone who has the other 'remote' for your car, you can unlock the doors (or the trunk).
THIRD Hidden Battery Power
Imagine your mobile battery is very low. To activate, press the keys *3370# Your mobile will restart with this reserve and the instrument will show a 50% increase in battery. This reserve will get charged when you charge your mobile next time.
FOURTH How to disable a STOLEN mobile phone?
To check your Mobile phone's serial number, key in the following digits on your phone: * # 0 6 #
A 15 digit code will appear on the screen. This number is unique to your handset. Write it down and keep it somewhere safe. When your phone get stolen, you can phone your service provider and give them this code. They will then be able to block your handset so even if the thief changes the SIM card, your phone will be totally useless. You probably won't get your phone back, but at least you know that whoever stole it can't use/sell it either. If everybody does this, there would be no point in people stealing mobile phones.
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaaha, what a moron.
mobilemate said:
FIRST Emergency
The Emergency Number worldwide for Mobile is 112. If you find yourself out of the coverage area of your mobile; network and there is an emergency, dial 112 and the mobile will search any existing network to establish the emergency number for you, and interestingly this number 112 can be dialed even if the keypad is locked. Try it out.
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I tried it, but SWAT arrived in under 5 minutes.
mobilemate said:
SECOND have you locked your keys in the car?
Does your car have remote keyless entry? This may come in handy someday. Good reason to own a cell phone: If you lock your keys in the car and the spare keys are at home, call someone at home on their mobile phone from your cell phone.
Hold your cell phone about a foot from your car door and have the person at your home press the unlock button, holding it near the mobile phone on their end. Your car will unlock. This saves someone from having to drive your keys to you. Distance is no object. You could be hundreds of miles away, and if you can reach someone who has the other 'remote' for your car, you can unlock the doors (or the trunk).
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Now people think my friend is slow, since he is trying to unlock his cell phone with a remote.
mobilemate said:
THIRD Hidden Battery Power
Imagine your mobile battery is very low. To activate, press the keys *3370# Your mobile will restart with this reserve and the instrument will show a 50% increase in battery. This reserve will get charged when you charge your mobile next time.
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My phone just blew up!
mobilemate said:
FOURTH How to disable a STOLEN mobile phone?
To check your Mobile phone's serial number, key in the following digits on your phone: * # 0 6 #
A 15 digit code will appear on the screen. This number is unique to your handset. Write it down and keep it somewhere safe. When your phone get stolen, you can phone your service provider and give them this code. They will then be able to block your handset so even if the thief changes the SIM card, your phone will be totally useless. You probably won't get your phone back, but at least you know that whoever stole it can't use/sell it either. If everybody does this, there would be no point in people stealing mobile phones.
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Wait....if it's stolen, should I call the thief and ask them to dial the number and give me the digits?
Even #4 is a lie, my mom's phone just got stolen and I asked AT&T about an IMEI lock, they said if the person tries to get an unlock code it won't be allowed and if they register that handset as theirs it won't be allowed... But that's as far as it goes.
These features are not real??
have you tried them ever?
technocraft said:
These features are not real??
have you tried them ever?
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oh my days.... do people actually READ a thread before posting or do they like just posting for the sake of it.
And by the way, number one (emergency) is definetley true. It even works if you have a screen pin lock .. Windows even tells you
"Emergency phone calls can be made"
Black93300ZX said:
Even #4 is a lie, my mom's phone just got stolen and I asked AT&T about an IMEI lock, they said if the person tries to get an unlock code it won't be allowed and if they register that handset as theirs it won't be allowed... But that's as far as it goes.
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If your phone is stolen should be able to get the IMEI blacklisted via your carrier. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Mobile_Equipment_Identity#Blacklist_of_stolen_devices
Ta
Dave
Unlocked my car
I used my house phone line and called my ATT Tilt and was unable to both lock and unlock my 2006 Mitsubishi Eclipse over the phone using my keys = that was way cool. So before you condemn this post you should try it out.
Yeah, but this definitely works: By dialling 0800-OPENCAN, I opened a tin of cat food with my TouchPro. You might need to use a different dialling prefix if you're in a country beginning with a D, U or an R.
The amount of ignorance in this thread is amazing.
What's with all the people saying: you can do this, you can't do this, and stating them as facts when they clearly don't know what they are talking about?
Don't make assumption people.
Also, just because something does (or does not work) in one part of the world that doesn't mean it will be the same for the rest of the world.
#3 is actually correct for certain mobiles. I had a nokia which this worked with. Basically the code set the phone to use a different audio codec, which in turn reduced quality but had the advantage of draining less power.
So although it doesn't add extra power to your mobile, it does increase the duration
Chillin said:
The amount of ignorance in this thread is amazing.
What's with all the people saying: you can do this, you can't do this, and stating them as facts when they clearly don't know what they are talking about?
Don't make assumption people.
Also, just because something does (or does not work) in one part of the world that doesn't mean it will be the same for the rest of the world.
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So your saying that people should keep there opinions to themselves?
Whats ignorant about trial and error and posting results...Ignorance from questioning what would seem to be outrageous, fallible claims!?
Dude this (post) is some skeptical bull**** to begin with. To not question these claims validity of these would be against all this community stands for... (IE check out every other bat**** post..)
Ps tried the battery thing with the tilt ;;;command not supported
sdlopez83 said:
So your saying that people should keep there opinions to themselves?
Whats ignorant about trial and error and posting results...Ignorance from questioning what would seem to be outrageous, fallible claims!?
Dude this (post) is some skeptical bull**** to begin with. To not question these claims validity of these would be against all this community stands for... (IE check out every other bat**** post..)
Ps tried the battery thing with the tilt ;;;command not supported
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No no, everything should always be questioned. I am refering to the people that are posting their guesses and their opinions as fact.
They should not be saying you can or can't do this or that. They should be saying I think you can or can't do this or that. Then at least other people will know to look into it to verify their guesses not and to not just accept it because someone else is pretending he/she knows what they are talking about.
rb14 said:
Yeah, but this definitely works: By dialling 0800-OPENCAN, I opened a tin of cat food with my TouchPro. You might need to use a different dialling prefix if you're in a country beginning with a D, U or an R.
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LOL too funny
mobilemate said:
FOUR THINGS YOU PROBABLY NEVER KNEW YOUR MOBILE PHONE COULD DO
There are a few things that can be done in times of grave emergencies. Your mobile phone can actually be a life saver or an emergency tool for survival. Check out the things that you can do with it:
FIRST Emergency
The Emergency Number worldwide for Mobile is 112. If you find yourself out of the coverage area of your mobile; network and there is an emergency, dial 112 and the mobile will search any existing network to establish the emergency number for you, and interestingly this number 112 can be dialed even if the keypad is locked. Try it out.
SECOND have you locked your keys in the car?
Does your car have remote keyless entry? This may come in handy someday. Good reason to own a cell phone: If you lock your keys in the car and the spare keys are at home, call someone at home on their mobile phone from your cell phone.
Hold your cell phone about a foot from your car door and have the person at your home press the unlock button, holding it near the mobile phone on their end. Your car will unlock. This saves someone from having to drive your keys to you. Distance is no object. You could be hundreds of miles away, and if you can reach someone who has the other 'remote' for your car, you can unlock the doors (or the trunk).
THIRD Hidden Battery Power
Imagine your mobile battery is very low. To activate, press the keys *3370# Your mobile will restart with this reserve and the instrument will show a 50% increase in battery. This reserve will get charged when you charge your mobile next time.
FOURTH How to disable a STOLEN mobile phone?
To check your Mobile phone's serial number, key in the following digits on your phone: * # 0 6 #
A 15 digit code will appear on the screen. This number is unique to your handset. Write it down and keep it somewhere safe. When your phone get stolen, you can phone your service provider and give them this code. They will then be able to block your handset so even if the thief changes the SIM card, your phone will be totally useless. You probably won't get your phone back, but at least you know that whoever stole it can't use/sell it either. If everybody does this, there would be no point in people stealing mobile phones.
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just tried num 3 and it does not work... it says "Command not supported"
for those of you that dont know video share does not work on the htc fuze it your settings say wap.cingular. att has tried to fix this with no success still waiting on a call back from them. we know that the settings should say ims.cingular butmanually changing it does not work it has to come from htc like that. so it anyone has any suggestion please post. and yes i do have the service from att and it works on other video share phones.
I have had alot of issues with differant devices and VIDEO SHARE, to that i will say this; have them remove the soc code(feature) and then add it back to the account after a soft reset on your device. This has been the process that has corrected mine for many of my devices.
Any relief on this? curious if it is the ROM I am using or if it really isnt working.
iceberg1824 said:
for those of you that dont know video share does not work on the htc fuze it your settings say wap.cingular. att has tried to fix this with no success still waiting on a call back from them. we know that the settings should say ims.cingular butmanually changing it does not work it has to come from htc like that. so it anyone has any suggestion please post. and yes i do have the service from att and it works on other video share phones.
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strangely my phone sometimes says ims.cingular and I cannot connect and it asks for a password on boot up. Most of the time it is wap.cingular. Weird...
As for videoshare, you have to be on a 3g (H) connection to stream data and talk at the same time. I haven't tried the videoshare, but I will test and see what I get....any other ideas?
Video Share Checklist
I just thought I'd share my experience with getting Video Share to work properly on the FUZE (and on my LG VU) So here it is:
Checklist
3G Service Area: you (and the other party) MUST be in a 3g service area, with at least 2 bars, why 2 bars you ask? well, quality of service mainly, less than 2 bars and your 3G will be very slow, remember you're trying to transmit alot of data with Video share.
A Data Plan: This was a shock, but not really... if you don't want to be charged for every KB of data sent / received in addition to the 35 cents per minute pay per use or whichever plan you have, you must have a good data plan to cover the charges... I don't understand why AT&T feels they must double charge, once for the feature and then for the data to use that feature, MMS Messages do the same... if they charge a high rate for MMS, you shouldnt be charged for the associated DATA, what a rip!
Video Share PPU, Starter, or Premium service (the service itself) -- not much to say but DUH, also the receiver must have this service and an appropriate data plan as mentioned above or you will never see the option on your phone during a call.
IMS APN Feature: (FREE) Although the guy I finally got a hold of to make this all work (who had a thick accent and was hard to understand, but knew what he was doing) told me that video share will work with wap.cingular, there have been reports that it doesn't. When you provision Video share the network automatically changes your APN to ims.cingular, IMS APN feature must be on your account for access or it could give you all sorts of problems form "forbidden" on browsing to rejected emails/mms. If you have a 3G phone this is most likely on your account, it is the new higher speed apn for 3G, maybe that's why the internal customer service code for it is "3GMM" hmm....
Correct settings in your phone: I'm not going to go into those details here, but its obvious, you must have the correct settings.
Correct IMEI: Here's the fun one, I had tried everything above as mentioned in scattered posts throughout the net only to call at&t several times getting frustrated over not getting any results, the final time I called them I ended up talking to some guy in a "special department" related to video share issues. After reviewing all settings on my account he finally figured out the problem (which took him about 2 minutes after getting transfered) the IMEI numbers for my phones were not listed in the system. (blame the dealer I bought the phones from as they are supposed to enter this) there are several places the IMEI's get listed, and I'd think they could easily pluck this information from the network when the phone registers but no, I read him my IMEI information from both lines on my account that video share didn't work for (the FUZE and the VU), he had us remove the batteries as he sent the updates across the network, and BAM the very next call between the phones and video share works like a champ. What this boiled down to is the network didn't know what type of phone I had and what features to turn on and what to do to make the phones talk to each other in a compatible form. I'd think this would cause all sorts of other issues with the network too, not just for video share.
A final note on this: if you change phones, make sure you call and have the IMEI information updated, if I change my FUZE for another FUZE it would probably work, but if I swap the device out for a different model it would not necessarily pick the most compatible features for my phone...
Privisioned Dates: When you go to your online account management and add features, it says they are immediately effective, sometimes this is true, but in the case of my account it likes to post-date to the next bill cycle. This is especially true when you visit an AT&T store, it will definitely post-date there. I had 3 IMS APN features and Video Share features on my account, all with different dates, this is because, I tried to add and 2 people at the store tried to add, to make sure Video Share and IMS are on your account and active / effective TODAY you have no choice but to call customer service and tell them you want them on your account effective immediately. While it will appear on your account management that you have it, don't trust it as it only checks for the feature, not the active dates.
And finally the internet connection: Some people have noted that your connection must be active before the call, this is not true although it is very helpful. The video share negotiation takes place over the phone control channel, when it is determined that you both have the service and compatible phones it will send a message to both phones. They will then try to turn on their data connections and verify with the server whether or not the option should be turned on. If your data is active before the call your video share button will be available instantly as it is for me. If it is NOT then it will take ~20 seconds or more to connect to the net and contact the server to verify, then turn on the option for you. Just make sure your internet works in general and that you can connect and you should have no problems during a normal call.
I hope this helps at least some of the people out there having this issue, and maybe some others having other issues with the network. Sorry for the long post
vs is ok now
OK this is a miracle finally got my HTC fuze to do video share. When I started this thread I was so mad at ATT and htc. Well here is the deal I had tried just about every avenue to get this to work and after reading whitehawk82 post, one of his points stood out.
FIRST make sure you have the latest sim card from ATT and IMS APN Feature is activated, now be aware that ATT needs to reset your entire data service so the ims.cingular can kick in on the ATT fuze. To make sure this is working when you turn on your fuze it will automatically connect to ims.cingular as with all video share phones.
SECOND now that you are connected you would think it would work, well not quite that easy. Now you need to re-install original ATT fuze rom and finally when you go to contacts live video share call will no longer be grayed out. Put back all your info manually for best results sprite restore may put back some incorrect settings.
whitehawk82 said:
I just thought I'd share my experience with getting Video Share to work properly on the FUZE (and on my LG VU) So here it is:
Checklist
3G Service Area: you (and the other party) MUST be in a 3g service area, with at least 2 bars, why 2 bars you ask? well, quality of service mainly, less than 2 bars and your 3G will be very slow, remember you're trying to transmit alot of data with Video share.
A Data Plan: This was a shock, but not really... if you don't want to be charged for every KB of data sent / received in addition to the 35 cents per minute pay per use or whichever plan you have, you must have a good data plan to cover the charges... I don't understand why AT&T feels they must double charge, once for the feature and then for the data to use that feature, MMS Messages do the same... if they charge a high rate for MMS, you shouldnt be charged for the associated DATA, what a rip!
Video Share PPU, Starter, or Premium service (the service itself) -- not much to say but DUH, also the receiver must have this service and an appropriate data plan as mentioned above or you will never see the option on your phone during a call.
IMS APN Feature: (FREE) Although the guy I finally got a hold of to make this all work (who had a thick accent and was hard to understand, but knew what he was doing) told me that video share will work with wap.cingular, there have been reports that it doesn't. When you provision Video share the network automatically changes your APN to ims.cingular, IMS APN feature must be on your account for access or it could give you all sorts of problems form "forbidden" on browsing to rejected emails/mms. If you have a 3G phone this is most likely on your account, it is the new higher speed apn for 3G, maybe that's why the internal customer service code for it is "3GMM" hmm....
Correct settings in your phone: I'm not going to go into those details here, but its obvious, you must have the correct settings.
Correct IMEI: Here's the fun one, I had tried everything above as mentioned in scattered posts throughout the net only to call at&t several times getting frustrated over not getting any results, the final time I called them I ended up talking to some guy in a "special department" related to video share issues. After reviewing all settings on my account he finally figured out the problem (which took him about 2 minutes after getting transfered) the IMEI numbers for my phones were not listed in the system. (blame the dealer I bought the phones from as they are supposed to enter this) there are several places the IMEI's get listed, and I'd think they could easily pluck this information from the network when the phone registers but no, I read him my IMEI information from both lines on my account that video share didn't work for (the FUZE and the VU), he had us remove the batteries as he sent the updates across the network, and BAM the very next call between the phones and video share works like a champ. What this boiled down to is the network didn't know what type of phone I had and what features to turn on and what to do to make the phones talk to each other in a compatible form. I'd think this would cause all sorts of other issues with the network too, not just for video share.
A final note on this: if you change phones, make sure you call and have the IMEI information updated, if I change my FUZE for another FUZE it would probably work, but if I swap the device out for a different model it would not necessarily pick the most compatible features for my phone...
Privisioned Dates: When you go to your online account management and add features, it says they are immediately effective, sometimes this is true, but in the case of my account it likes to post-date to the next bill cycle. This is especially true when you visit an AT&T store, it will definitely post-date there. I had 3 IMS APN features and Video Share features on my account, all with different dates, this is because, I tried to add and 2 people at the store tried to add, to make sure Video Share and IMS are on your account and active / effective TODAY you have no choice but to call customer service and tell them you want them on your account effective immediately. While it will appear on your account management that you have it, don't trust it as it only checks for the feature, not the active dates.
And finally the internet connection: Some people have noted that your connection must be active before the call, this is not true although it is very helpful. The video share negotiation takes place over the phone control channel, when it is determined that you both have the service and compatible phones it will send a message to both phones. They will then try to turn on their data connections and verify with the server whether or not the option should be turned on. If your data is active before the call your video share button will be available instantly as it is for me. If it is NOT then it will take ~20 seconds or more to connect to the net and contact the server to verify, then turn on the option for you. Just make sure your internet works in general and that you can connect and you should have no problems during a normal call.
I hope this helps at least some of the people out there having this issue, and maybe some others having other issues with the network. Sorry for the long post
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And this is why Video Share will NEVER take off. It's too ****ing complicated to get working on 2 devices, and it is completely USELESS. Seriously... I talk to people online and we both have webcams, but we don't get on cam just to talk. We just talk. Video is such an unnecessary part of every day communication.
Is there a way to turn it off? WSJ Link
In the case of Google, according to new research by security analyst Samy Kamkar, an HTC Android phone collected its location every few seconds and transmitted the data to Google at least several times an hour. It also transmitted the name, location and signal strength of any nearby Wi-Fi networks, as well as a unique phone identifier.
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Uncheck Settings -> Location -> Use Wireless Networks
Calling it secret is a HUGE exaggeration. By default it is disabled, and when you enable it it pops up a warning that says "are you sure you want to do this, enabling this feature will send your location to google."
Also, sign out of Google Latitude if you ever signed in to it. The entire purpose of that app is to constantly update google with your location so your friends can know where you're at so if you don't want your phone tell google where you are, you should probably not be using this app.
Finally when the browser asks, "This page wants to know your location", say no.
I have that turned off. I'm concerned with tower triangulation data being sent to unauthorized recipients such as Google.
Why do you believe that your phone is still transmitting it's location if you have turned off all of the features that warn you when you turn them on they will transmit your location? The story you linked to does not imply that he had those features turned off.
On the other hand, so long as the cell towers can see your phone, the towers can calculate your position so AT&T can (and does) know where you are, and is free to sell that location to who ever they please. But the only way to disable that is to not own a cell phone of any kind because it is not a function of your phone it is a function of the cell towers.
It is my impression that both Apple and Google use cell tower triangulation and call home over the cellular network. The Apple collected info definitely comes from cell tower triangulation.
My firewall logs do not show any attempts to send data from my home network. They would be blocked as unauthorized. The real question is how can one be certain of what the evil empire is doing to destroy one's privacy?
For apple, there is no way to know. There can be no "secretes" when it comes to android. You don't have to trust google not to transmit your location when you uncheck the box that says don't transmit your location. You can find out exactly under what scenarios the phone will transmit your location by downloading and reading the source code yourself. Or you can just trust that many of the DEV's on this site have read the source code and have not found any "evil" going on.
cypho said:
For apple, there is no way to know. There can be no "secretes" when it comes to android. You don't have to trust google not to transmit your location when you uncheck the box that says don't transmit your location. You can find out exactly under what scenarios the phone will transmit your location by downloading and reading the source code yourself. Or you can just trust that many of the DEV's on this site have read the source code and have not found any "evil" going on.
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It's all open source. There's nothing to worry about. That's the magic of Android.
I think this a case of worrying over nothing. What can they do with that data if they have it...improve features and service? LOL
Detectives would sacrifice their first born to have a location history of someone they are investigating. There is no doubt that divorce lawyers would do the same. If that info is stored in a file on the cell phone, they'll get it. Read the stories about the Michigan State Police testing the Cellebrite UFED.
You guys are pretty naive if you think Android being open source has anything to do with this. As long as you're in phone mode and connected to a tower, they can track you. Only airplane mode or turning the phone off will stop this. The problem is not that the phone can do this, but that there are no laws that dictate what can be done with the info and who can have access to it and under what circumstances. We are so quick to adopt these new technologies without knowing or fully understanding how they can expose us. The law does not keep pace with the technology.
The question is who is "They". If the OS is secure the only "they" is the people who own the cell towers. But if the OS is not secure, google, samsung, or someone else could be tracking you.
Unfortunately, the party I trust the least is AT&T and I agree with you that there is nothing anyone can do that would stop them from knowing where you are.
But if it is google, samsung or someone else other than AT&T that you fear, then the discussion does have merrit.
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You guys are pretty naive if you think Android being open source has anything to do with this. As long as you're in phone mode and connected to a tower, they can track you. Only airplane mode or turning the phone off will stop this. The problem is not that the phone can do this, but that there are no laws that dictate what can be done with the info and who can have access to it and under what circumstances. We are so quick to adopt these new technologies without knowing or fully understanding how they can expose us. The law does not keep pace with the technology.
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The question is who is "They". If the OS is secure the only "they" is the people who own the cell towers. But if the OS is not secure, google, samsung, or someone else could be tracking you.
Unfortunately, the party I trust the least is AT&T and I agree with you that there is nothing anyone can do that would stop them from knowing where you are.
But if it is google, samsung or someone else other than AT&T that you fear, then the discussion does have merrit.
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AT&T knows and has known where u were even on basic cell phones cos ur phone would be attached to the cell tower it is connected to. So there is no way u can get around from AT&T knowing where u r.
"They" is the evil Google.
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Detectives would sacrifice their first born to have a location history of someone they are investigating. There is no doubt that divorce lawyers would do the same. If that info is stored in a file on the cell phone, they'll get it. Read the stories about the Michigan State Police testing the Cellebrite UFED.
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Not to belittle the privacy concerns but if detectives and divorce lawyers are the first thing that pop into your head you probably have some issues to address.
Seriously though getting your location is nothing new whether it be via cell, credit/debit card purchases, etc., if the police can justify to a judge that they have avalid reason to try and locate you using these means, they most definitely will. Remember though, they are concerned with admissability as well. At least at the local, state, and moat federal levels.
As for.the msp article,there is no evidence they have misused the technology.....yet.
Those weren't the first occupations that I considered. Anyone can purchase forensic electronics and suck up the contents of a handset. A warrant is immaterial. Ask the Michigan State Police. I'm not worried about the legal aspects as much as the illegal ones. The police though are noted for crossing the line of legality, especially at traffic stops.
My concern is protecting my privacy. That's why I use prepaid sims, single use email addresses, proxies and several legal tools to obfuscate my identity. I use anonymous gift cards for non-cash purchases.
You don't have to turn Latitude off to prevent your location being sent to Google. There is an option to enter a location to send. I'll have to dig in to find out where the option is. Using this option you can pick a spot on the map and that is what is sent to Google. As far as Google is concerned i haven't left Mallory Square in Key West for about 6 months!
I don't have Latitude so I didn't consider it.
There are lots of other location aware apps.
I have that feature turned off.