hello, i brought a tsm 500 (qtek 2020) in 2006.
At the time it had the original windows 2003 SE installed on it. I installed WM05 and i lost an important program.
In settings/memory i had an option to transfer memory from program memory to storage memory in order to increase the storage memory.
For example I have only 15MB of storage memory available and 64 MB of program memory.
After installing all kind of applications (on the SD card) my storage memory has critically decreased to 1.6 MB but I have 25 MB of program memory free.
Do you know what application I'm talking about?
It allows you to transfer memory from storage memory to program memory and reverse.
Two things
1 - this is in the wrong forum, you obviously have a Himalaya, not an Alpine.
2 - i think the application in question is specific to WM2003. WM5 handles it's memory differently, i think.
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When i upgraded my Himalaya to WM5, I think I used used the 64 MB RAM version. I used the himaDOC tool to partition my device and give 64 MB to the RAM and 64 to storage.
Will that partitioning persist after I have upgraded to WM6? Ever since I installed WM6 my device is very very slow and it is because there's less than 3 MB of RAM left available. Here's what my machine says about its memory:
The ABOUT menu shows "Memory: 61.28MB"
The Hardware tab in Device Information shows RAM 128 MB, Flash 32MB, Storage Size 30.53MB
And when I go to Start > System > Settings > Memory, it shows Storage Total: 30.53 and Program Total 61.25MB
I am a little confused about what all these different types of memories mean. If anyone can clarify, i would really appreciate it. Also is there a way to increase the storage memory because with the total 30.53, 27 MB is always in use and with the remaining 4 MB, the device is painfully slow.
humayunl said:
And when I go to Start > System > Settings > Memory, it shows Storage Total: 30.53 and Program Total 61.25MB
I am a little confused about what all these different types of memories mean. If anyone can clarify, i would really appreciate it. Also is there a way to increase the storage memory because with the total 30.53, 27 MB is always in use and with the remaining 4 MB, the device is painfully slow.
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If you have used DOC partitioning tool, you have 30.53 MB of storage ROM. The rest of ROM is your system and radio stack.
Your RAM is divided into 3 parts: program memory (actual RAM), RAM disk and page pool. They sum up to 128 MB. So, for example, if you have 32 MB of a RAM disk and a 32 MB page pool, you have 64 MB of a program memory left.
So from the numbers I see on my device, does everything seem good or is there anything I can do to further improve memory performance/allocation so that the things will be faster?
Do you have a RAMdisk enabled?
You know, there's no simple answer to "what configuration is better". If it were, you wouldn't have a choice It depends on how many programs you have installed, what exactly programs you're running, and so on...
Hey everyone,
I have the Kaiser and am having trouble with my storage memory.
Total: 125.04 MB
In use: 111.10 MB
***Free: 13.88 MB ***
Why is my storage memory so damn low?... How do I find out what's taking so much mem up?... How do I free that memory up??? I have no programs open, and most of my programs are on my 4 gig storage card.
Any help or suggestions are truly appreciated!
- Jesse
Make sure the caches of IE, OPERA, ETC are deleted routinely.
If you are storing ringtones on your main memory, download software that will allow ringtones on the storage card.
Same goes with any audio clips, videos, or pictures.
If you use resco explorer, make sure the recycling bin is cleaned, or simply disable the recycling bin.
This should free up a nice chunk of storage space. (Ofcourse assuming that most of your programs are actually on your storage card; check your main memory programs folder to actually see whats installed on your main memory)
Thank you for your help!
One more (silly) question - When I install programs to my Tilt, it asks me if I want to install them to the main storage or my memory card. I almost always choose memory card, yet when I check my main storage memory after I install to my storage card, the main storage is depleted... Even though I chose storage card, it still installs some components to the main memory... why is this?
ekw, whats the name of the sofware that allows storage of ringtones on memory card with kaisers?
Thanks....
Just move them to the route of your memory card - no need to purchase software!
Just like on the full-sized Windows, certain programs will want to install a couple of files in the system directories regardless of where the program itself is installed... Those shouldn't be big though.
Is it possible to adjust your program memory using the device memory, like on wm2003?
Nope
That feature is not available with WM 5 and up
That adjustment was there because file storage was done in RAM, and the slider would let you choose how much of that RAM to allocate to storage and running programs. Since WM5, storage is done in the Flash memory, so all the RAM is always dedicated to running programs. No point for it then.
alright thank you!
I'll just wait for a different rom with more program memory then.
program mem is static one cant add more by rom other then
move ram from pagepool to app memory
and doing that kill application io performance
pagepool was interduced when flash storage was
to counter the issue that flash storage was much much slower
then old sd ram storage
hello, i brought a tsm 500 (qtek 2020) in 2006.
At the time it had the original windows 2003 SE installed on it. I installed WM05 and i lost an important program.
In settings/memory i had an option to transfer memory from program memory to storage memory in order to increase the storage memory.
For example I have only 15MB of storage memory available and 64 MB of program memory.
After installing all kind of applications (on the SD card) my storage memory has critically decreased to 1.6 MB but I have 25 MB of program memory free.
Do you know what application I'm talking about?
It allows you to transfer memory from storage memory to program memory and reverse.
Hello,
I would like someone to clarify to me some things about the device memory. My current mem readings as shown in the Control Panel are:
- Storage: 299.01 MB (210.27MB free)
- Program: 183.73 MB (72.87 free)
According to the official specs, the Topaz has 512 MB ROM and 256 MB RAM. How are these two types of memory related to Storage and Programs? Is there a way to mess between RAM, ROM, Storage and Programs in order to achieve optimum memory usage? For example, in my device there seems to be a lot of free Storage Mem available, as compared to Program Mem... Should I need to do something about this big discrepancy?
I would be grateful if someone clarified all this to me.
To be very short:
ROM (Read Only Memory) is where bootloader and Windows resides:Beside this there is more room to install applications (Programs) and to store personal files such as pictures,videos,mp3,docs etc.(Storage). ROM is non-volatile memory, this means that data will remain in the device even if power is cut off and will be available the next restart.RAM (Random Access Memory) is volatile memory that your device needs for ordinary functioning (loads into it programs that are running).RAM wil be emptied if powered off. It does not have sense to compare these two values and try to make them similar. An advice would be to install and store all you can in the Memory Card.Note: some apps/cabs need necessarily to be installed in the device (Programs memory) otherwise they don't work.Note 2: Access timings to memory cards are higher than internal ROM, take it in consideration if you have to decide where to store/install.
...Well I wasn't so short..I'll try it again:
If someone asked me:""why do I have so little free Program memory compared to Storage memory?"
I'd answer:"It's beause of many useless Microsoft programs embedded into Windows that cannot be uninstalled, only cooks can do it"
Thanks a lot for the (not so short after all! ) reply! So, if I get it correctly, the so called Storage Memory is the ROM after all: In other words, these 210 MB that are free cannot be utilized by me in any way, unless of course, I switch to a cooked ROM that contains lots of programs that currently occupy my RAM, and which they will not be needed to be installed there any more.... However, I am not in the mood of flashing and setting everything up from scratch, right now....
The storage card is indeed a solution, yet it has the two limitations that you correctly mentioned... So, I will basically have to stick with the RAM that is left...
In the same order as your arguments:
-Those 210 MB CAN be used by you, by installing apps in it, but I adviced you to possibly install them in Memory Card unless inevitable.
-Cooked ROMs generally free up Programs Memory area (or maintain same memory and upgrade embedded apps).
-Storage card is simply VITAL,access timings and transfer speeds are good enough to support everyday use.
-Then you talk about RAM: You "have to stick to RAM that is left" as anybody,but RAM usage is variable, depending on how much intensive is your device work in runtime. To optimize RAM memory use CleanRam, you can do it manually or schedule it (like I do)...and of course don't run too many apps at the time (check Task manager)!!
jcan said:
Hello,
I would like someone to clarify to me some things about the device memory. My current mem readings as shown in the Control Panel are:
- Storage: 299.01 MB (210.27MB free)
- Program: 183.73 MB (72.87 free)
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I was talking about these 210 MB, which are reported as free in my Storage memory, which if I understood well is the ROM... So I can't use them to install apps in it.
On the other hand, the Program memory (which I have 73 MB free) is the RAM, right?
Or I've got it all wrong?
210 MB is part of the ROM and it is free space in which you can store personal files (mp3,pictures,videos,contacts,docs etc.)--->same as Memory Card but smaller and quicker.The free memory in which you can install programs is in your case 72.87MB and is still part of the ROM(I want to better check this last statement,update coming soon).
RAM is another memory module,physically separated from ROM,it's another chip. RAM values vary with the device workload.
Update: I confirm,to simplify we can say that both Storage and Programs memory is part of the ROM, in no ways it can be considered as being RAM.
Thanks a lot for all the clarifications, sualc! Now everything has been sorted out to me.
You're welcome,cheers