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Hi guys!
I have a couple of questions.
Last week I performed WM2003SE to WM2005 upgrade on my BA. It comes from German T-Mob. I bought it second hand, so I guess that the ROM I found on it was loaded some way along the road (it was WWE, and my device has a German QWERTZ keyboard layout, meaning it originally had to come with some non-WWE ROM..right?)
When I bought it, it had O2 ìsoftwareî (thatís called extended ROM, right?) v1.31, Radio v1.06 and Protocol 1337.45.
I had some problems installing newest WM2003SE as I was getting error about wrong CID when running .exe update file, so I went for Helmiís 2005 pack. Later I realized I should just rename .exe to .zip and extract needed files from WM2003 .exe updates. I used BaUpgradeUt (of course failed due to the wrong CID) and MaUpgradeUt_noID.
Firstly I upgraded to Helmiís WM2005 (v5.04.09 WWE), but after finished upgrade I started getting some errors for some missing or corrupt executable files after device starts up (see the screenshots), which disappeared when I reinstalled 2005 (reinstalling it for the second time I got those 3 check boxes on a boot loader screen, which I didnít see when doing the installation for the first time..that could be the source of my problems after the first installation). Someway along those actions I also cleared my storage (with a tool provided in Helmiís ROM, that has a red recycle icon). After deleting storage items, I found many apps found on original Helmiís ROM missing (good..I didnít need those
Then I decided to update my radio from 1.05 to 1.16 and it went ok, after I managed to connect the device in boot loader mode to USB cradle.
- Now, I find it rather strange to have that color-striped boot loader screen still appearing when I boot my device. Shouldnít it be replaced with some WM default or ROM assigned bitmap?
- I used GetDeviceData to determine the exact data of my BA and prior to upgrade it gave me something like this:
PH20B WWE some_letter T-MOB102 followed by ROM and Radio version.
After the ROM update (2003SE to 2005) I got this as a result:
PH20B WWE A T%CID? 5.04.09. 1.06.00 % 4
Then I upgraded Radio...
PH20B WWE A T%CID? 5.04.09. 1.15.00 % 4
As you can see, T-MOB102 part disappeared and itís replaced with an unknown CID part. I guess thatís why I still see the boot loader colorful stripes when booting/soft resetting my device. Is it a big problem, as the device works fine? Is it a normal occurrence after using MaUpgradeUt_noID?
- That ìProtocolî version/number (1337.45 in my case)..can that be updated and what is it?
- After the upgrade I noticed that my phone is not recognized as a PPC any more, but as a computer instead. The problem is that now it offers less services over bluetooth (only Active Sync on Mac and Network Access Point on Windows). On Windows computer, I cannot send any files through btooth OBEX and itís very annoying. Is that a problem with bluetooth and WM2005 on these devices one could read about on forums? Any way to fix it? I must say that I havenít installed the newest bluetooth stack (how can I check what stack version do I have now?).
I hope you're still awake after reading this
Answer is simple http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel
And you will receive the same answer whenever you ask beginner question
I appreciate your advice, however, you must know that although some of my questions were beginner questions not all of them were such and those still require direct answers rather than some generic answer you provided.
I read the 80% of the BA Wiki before posting here and I haven't found the answers I need.
For instance, I still don't know why those bootloader stripes are still present..or what happened to my CID part in device data. If it's messed up, how come it's working? If it's ok, why it's not mentioned on the Wiki?
You may correct me if I'm wrong, but after reading all of that, I still don't know wha't really included in the backup or why my SMS messages are still there after I performed a hard reset, but my e-mail settings are deleted...
Saying "Eat if you're hungry will not solve the problem of a hungry one".
In general, that approach of forwarding noobs or people with such questions to a first page of an ecyclopediae is not a solution.
You're right wiki isn't enough, there is a search! And let me told you a little secret - there is a google, (you know google dont you?)
After reading wiki you MUST realize that:
Bootloader - no way of removing stripes!
CID part - You didn't follow the step-by-step proccess in wiki. And because you are beginner you should follow the Helmi install procedure (or read through WM5-BA page) And what is more important you dont even know anything about CID (use google - it is in wiki but not in BA section)
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Because its not important its not mentioned in BA wiki.
Read something about WM5 how it works and the differences between 2003SE. (Like a persistent storage) <- answer to your SMS and hardreset question. And use google to find more information rather than asking more question
Hello everyone:
I have searched the thread but could not find the solution to my problem.
I installed Transcriber, but when I try to select it as an input method it does not select and continues to show me the virtual keyboard.
I uninstalled it and installed it again in my storage card and the problem still persists. I tried installing and uninstalling a few times, reseting after each and the problem does not seem to dissipate.
Any help or insight would be appreciated.
I am using Crossbow 1.5 and T-Mobile UK Radio Rom on a G3 Unlocked.
Hi, You may double check that transcriber is included in that rom. Transcriber was until recently often deleted in order to make room for other applications in custom roms. I know mfrazzz started using the compression and packing technology from my Rom-Packer kitchen recently and his newer roms may include it now. My rom does include transcriber.
Best wishes,
Hi,
I have my HD from march and being interested in WM6.5 and disappointed by HTC because they do not release an upgrade I decided to try some cooked roms.
I used USPL so that I can keep my original SPL.
I tried:
* Duttys WM6.5 Sense 2.1 Holy Grail
* Duttys WM6.5 Leo Holy Grail
* Topix HD
From the first boot I have noisy screen image with 4 colours or something .... but after entering in sleep mode and restore it recovers to normal "true color" until I reset the device. I can live with that but the real issue is that I cannot start my phone using the original radio neither with the latest versions I found for HTC HD. No error there, it simply stays off after I confirm that I want to enable the phone.
Also the device is hanging for very long time now and then and I have exactly the same problem/behaviour with all the above roms. I tried some fixes found in the forum but nothing works and I did not found anybody with the same weird behaviour.
I wand to recover my stock firmware but I found that even I brought mine from Romania it has a Czech S/N and HTC does not provide a stock ROM for this "v1.56.402 - Czech republic - not supported".
What can I do. do you guys know if I can get the original firmware from somewhere?
Thanks.
Obviously you havent bothered to read anything let alone the guidelines of starting new threads.
The answers are in the forum I suggest you take time to read and start by reading the forum guidelines and the sticky threads.
If you dont understand what you're doing then stick to a stock ROM until you do or you might brick your phone.
You say that you used uspl. Are you sure that it was successful as the symptoms you describe are typical when you have the incorrect spl for the rom you are using. After using uspl, what spl is showing in the bootloader screen?
Follow the steps in the Dummies Guide to Flashing and your problems should be sorted out.
If you still have further questions, post them in that thread as the mods will close this one as soon as they come across it (as explained by homer285)
you're ok as long as you can still go to bootloader mode, then go back to the uspl 2.5 guide here, FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS STEP BY STEP
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505377
and here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462347
format your sd card using fat32 (full format) (if you are a frequent flasher I suggest you get a small capacity sd card – 1Gb - and devote this only for flashing)
rename the RUU_signed.nbh to BLACIMG.nbh and pair this with ROMUpdateUtility -(application file) OR BlackstoneRUUWrapper (whichever the ROM cook presents) copy these TWO files in your formatted sd card.
then using Digital Outcast's USPL GUI: look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=508361
if you're using Vista see this to update your sync driver
http://www.modaco.com/content/windo...u-on-vista-it-can-be-done-the-ultimate-guide/
flash the ROM.
I hope I make the above clear to you.
suggestion: Read the howtos!
If I was you I would do like this:
- flash hspl.
- flash latest radio from memorystick
- flash any 23xxx-rom from memstick (miri or phamQ can I recommend).
Cant understand why you are doing it the complicated way... there are ways to recover to original-spl if needed. This is the easyest way to flash 6.5 and it is almost fail-safe.
good luck!
brumbrum said:
suggestion: Read the howtos!
If I was you I would do like this:
- flash hspl.
- flash latest radio from memorystick
- flash any 23xxx-rom from memstick (miri or phamQ can I recommend).
Cant understand why you are doing it the complicated way... there are ways to recover to original-spl if needed. This is the easyest way to do it and it is almost fail-safe.
good luck!
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dont add to the confusion, he is already using USPL, the SAFEST METHOD as stated by Dutty Throy, he even advocates this in all of his cooked ROMs
all he needs to do is to redo the steps again as i posted above.
Sorry for my panic post
Yes, after 8 hours of trying stuff I did not read post guide-lines but I searched all the internet and xda forums, tried all the dumb fixes for my weird behaviours without any success.
I am sure that my original rom it is not available and I call for help from people that have Czech S/N English version to extract the flash and the radio if it is no so complicated or if they have it as backup.
Actually I read every "flashing for dummies" posts and only when I thought I got everything I started to flash it.
I used the latest 2.5 USPL, the GUI one and also the command line from the cmd prompt so I saw all the output lines and there was no error at all. It is clear that the device was successfully flashed and I respected all the version requirements stated in description of the packages. The problem comes from some sort of incompatibility. The versions at boot is the right one.
The only wrong thing I did was after seeing USPL 2.5 coloured boot loader I go on with the tutorial which said to read on screen RUU instructions which said to connect with activesync and I did as they said and restart the device, cradle and continue flashing in which case the original SPL started and I got a flashing error on the desktop client but after restarting the device everything run normally with the stock firmware and I think I have a good understanding on how it work and I can say that that error does not hurt a bit.
I finally succeed, in the morning, to flash 6.1 vanilla topaz and almost everything works except the GPS module and I am investigating this issue.
It is clear that you cannot help me an my device issue related to WM6.5 roms are unique and I will investigate this on my own.
Sorry to everybody, again, for my wrong located post and have a nice day.
I am trying to get the cool 4 shortcut buttons and was directed to something called Cookies Home Tab. I installed it but no program showed up.
I would then try and uninstall it an install it again with sense deactivated, but when choosing uninstall on the program (which shows up on the "remove program" menu, but not in the start menu) the "busy-cursor" is just rotating and nothing happens. I tried powering off and try again, and the same thing happens: It says its uninstalling, but it takes forever and nothing happends.
Can someone help? How do I get the program properly installed. I am running a danish original rom and assumed it would be compatible when directed there. I am not sure where to find my sense version. Can it be that its 2.16xxxxx or is that windows?
came99 said:
I am trying to get the cool 4 shortcut buttons and was directed to something called Cookies Home Tab. I installed it but no program showed up.
I would then try and uninstall it an install it again with sense deactivated, but when choosing uninstall on the program (which shows up on the "remove program" menu, but not in the start menu) the "busy-cursor" is just rotating and nothing happens. I tried powering off and try again, and the same thing happens: It says its uninstalling, but it takes forever and nothing happends.
Can someone help? How do I get the program properly installed. I am running a danish original rom and assumed it would be compatible when directed there. I am not sure where to find my sense version. Can it be that its 2.16xxxxx or is that windows?
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If you cannot find your manila version, or at least search on how to find it, you really need to learn more before you mess up your phone.
I assume you did a hard reset after your registry issue. If not I suggest you do as you will probably have to do it a few times as you attempt to customize your device.
Your manila version can be found in Settings\Device Info\Software Info.
Read the thread on Cookies Home tab for compatable versions and install instructions. Post your questions there.
p.s. Thanks for implying...
I am really sorry for sounding like a total noob, but I DID read the post, installation instructions and whats not. I also read the "how to find your manila version" which also said to go to settings tab - device info - software info. The thing is that its danish on my phone and I cant find anything called device info on my tab, only "about" which leads me to a webpage with a lot of copyright and legal mumble jumble.
When going to settings - advanced - about the device I get a tab called version, where it says Rom Version 2.16.403.1 (67041) dan. But I dont know if thats it.
But lord, how many original stock roms can there be? Its a pretty new phone and I installed every HTC update available to me. I must say that configuring this little diamond seems to take a rocket scientist or above. I can use a computer pretty well, but getting a little modifications to the HTC UI seems to take a phd
You seem like a nice guy, and I would like to learn. Maybe you can help me out so I dont have to ask so many noobish questions. I really tried to learn by myself but it is a new world to me and it is quite overwhelming.
1) I read that installing a rom is ireversible. Does that really mean that I under no circumstances can replace the original software? Is a cooked rom really a whole other OS and replace windows mobile 6.5 completely? Or is it just a modified windows?
2) What is the distinction between HTC Sense, Touch Flo and Manila, if any? As far as I read the black and white icons is manila and the colored ones is sense... Is that true? And does that mean that I cant use any programs that needs manila to run if I have the HTC Ui with the colored icons?
I hope the above questions helps me to a basic understanding, so I further on dont have to ask so many questions.
PS) after installing TD2 tools my screen rotation line in my system registry came back, and I got rid of the landscape.. Thats one problem solved. Call recording aswell. If I find a way to get these 4 shortcut-buttons available and set one of them to my to-do list I think Im done.. No more tampering.. I promise.
came99 said:
1) What exactly is the difference between installing Cookies Home tab and installing another rom? As I understand it, a rom is a whole other OS, where this software only is a skin? Correct?
Correct, The ROM is the whole OS, where CHT is a modification to the Sense (Manila) UI.
2) I read that installing a rom is ireversible. Does that really mean that I under no circumstances can replace the original software?
No, You must first install hard SPL to be able to flash a cooked(custom) ROM.
Once you install HSPL, your device is considered "out of warranty".
However you can reflash a Stock ROM and then reflash Stock SPL to return the phone to the factory state for warranty purposes. So it can be reverted.
3) What is the distinction between HTC Sense and Manila, if any?
They are one and the same, also referred to as Touch Flo 3D (TF3D)
4) The original question about getting Cookie to work, if someone feels like helping.
If you have installed Cookie's Home Tab and soft reset, when you are on your home screen you should see the flip clock (assuming that in Settings\System\Home\Items is set to HTC Sense), on top right of that is a little dash, this opens up additional panels for your shortcuts.
There should also be a new program possibly in settings or \Programs\Tools called CHTEditor to access your tab settings.
I suspect that it installed, you just didn't know how to access it.
Lemme know.
PS) after installing TD2 tools my screen rotation line in my system registry came back, and I got rid of the landscape.. Thats one problem solved. Call recording aswell. If I find a way to get these 4 shortcut-buttons available I think Im done.. No more tampering.. I promise.
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See above for answers. One quick word of advice; If the program interfaces with your today screen, phone functions, etc. install to device memory and never to Storage Card. Programs that just tweak the registry and settings can be installed to SD card.
Uhm, and I wouldn't be promising anything because its addicting. Once you pop, you can't stop!
Sorry.. I edited my post while you were answering. I found the preguide to roms which was just about basic enough to enlighten me. Your answers helped a lot to, and everything fell into place.
I do think that I will stay away from flashing as it seems like risky business.. The option to hard-reset without to much hassle seems like the emergency brake I like available to me
At the moment I am trying to reinstall Cookies Home Tab, but the installation just hangs.. Probably because it wasnt uninstalled correctly. Any tips other than Hard Resetting which means several hours of setup
Edit: Ahh f... it.. I may aswell do it.. All the tampering made my phone slow anyway.. Now I know what I need and can get it to work without too much experimenting..
Thanks dude.
I did some research on your stock ROM and it looks like you are running Manila 2.1 which is the older version so many tweaks you are attempting may be for 2.5.
You would be better off changing ROMs.
Here is a download of our stock ROM for warranty purposes, keep it just in case. You may have to register for the site, but you may also find a nice cooked ROM in your language on that site. Dutty is a great chef and I use his ROMs because of their stability.
I can attempt to walk you through HSPL, but there have been many issues lately. Almost seems like the only way to get it to work is to "donate" to the developer.
Okay Mr Dope Pusher.. i see where you are going.. Telling me to stay away from these sheningans and 1 hour later you got me hooked anyway
Jokes aside.. Yes.. I Do think I am gonna need some help here.. While the stock backup rom is downloading I will try and find out for myself, but I would very much like some confirmation on what to do before I take the leap.. Stay tuned and thank you very much.. Your help is very appriciated.
I have a question though.. Now I downloaded the stock rom, but what if my phone breaks when Duttys Rom is installed.. Then I wont be able to reinstall the original rom before sending it in for repair. And then Im screwed warranty wise, right?
..., in anticipation of your next question;
As long as you have over 50% battery and do not interupt the flash (unplug the USB) there are very few chances of it bricking.
I have never had it happen and most errors are correctable with a hard reset. It really sounds worse than it is.
Most devices get bricked because the user attempts to flash a cooked ROM w/o HSPL or a ROM or radio from another device.
I have attached 3 files.
Do the following after you download these files;
1. Remove your SIM and SD card.
2. Sync your device to your PC through Active Sync or WMDC depending on your windows version.
2. Copy the enablenewrapi.cab to your device through file explorer and install
to device memory.
3. Open both the SPL 1.83 and the RUU zip files and place contents of both into a new folder.
4. Run the RUU.exe and you should see a progress screen appear.
5. With any luck, you won't get stuck at 0% and the flash will complete.
As the screen states, it may take up to 10 minutes. You will see your device disconnect from active sync, which is normal. Let it run until it completes and do not open anything or let your PC go into standby. Also, you may want to disable your AV and any firewalls as these can mess with the installation.
Make sure you have greater than 50% battery before you attempt this as any interuption during the flashing process can brick your device.
If the steps above complete, you can go into bootloader mode by holding down both volume keys right after you hit the soft reset buton, but before the device begins to boot. You may have to try a couple of times if you are not fast enough. Or you can power off the device then hold both volume keys and press the power button. In bootloader mode which is a tri colored screen, you should see SPL: 1.83.Olinex, then you will know it has installed correctly.
From this point, you are able to flash any cooked Topaz ROM.
The ROM flashing process is the same as HSPL in regards to placing the ROM's .nbh file into the same folder as the custom RUU.exe, so keep that RUU.exe file for future use.
You need only flash HSPL once to continue to flash as many ROMS as you like.
If you ever have to revert to stock, you would install the ROM you downloaded, then find the StockSPL file from the HSPL thread and follow the instructions.
Always hard reset after you flash a new ROM.
**If you are not successful in flashing HSPL, you will need to go to the HSPL thread and read up on opening a ticket with HTC Support, which will give you an autoinstaller that will work once you donate through the program. I believe they are asking for 4gbp.
Ok.. And one of the above files is the Dutty Rom? Edit: Oh I se.. It isnt.. I will download it then..
Will it look and feel similar to Sense, just with more features and customisation options?
You write: Most devices get bricked because the user attempts to flash a cooked ROM w/o HSPL or a ROM or radio from another device.
Can you please elaborate? I understand it like you need to make sure I install the hspl first before cooking, but "radio" from another device. Please explain it for a dummy as me, so I dont attempt to do it by accident.
came99 said:
Ok.. And one of the above files is the Dutty Rom? Is it available in danish as is, or do I have to do something.
Will it look and feel similar to Sense, just with more features and customization options?
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No, I have not provided you with a ROM, just the HSPL unlocker.
You can go to HTCPedia and search for a Danish ROM with manila 2.5, or take a look through the ROM development thread and find one from another chef. It should have Sense installed but 2.5 unless it states otherwise. 2.5 has more features and functions and is the most current.
Many ROMs are multilanguage so I believe you select your region language when the ROM first loads. Just look for one that supports DAN. I use WWE (World Wide English) so I am not experienced with multilanguage variations.
Just make sure your HSPL is successful before you attempt to flash a ROM.
If you search hard enough you may even find a ROM with CHT cooked in which will alleviate you from having to install it yourself, but I suspect that your previous install didn't work because your on Sense 2.1
I have never used CHT, but use Max Manila Themes which is just a different mod, but I am thinking about trying CHT.
I'll take a look and see what I can find.
Regarding Radios;
A stock ROM comes with the OS and Radio ROM.
Most cooked ROMs take just the OS and tweak it for best performance, adding programs, removing other useless programs and do not include the radio ROM, therefore you will still have your stock Radio unless you flash a cooked ROM that has included the radio (usually denoted in the title of the ROM by the radio#, i.e. 4.49.25.57 (which is a Topaz radio version)
The only time you can brick is you attempt to install a radio from another device (sometimes they work better) such as a Blackstone radio to a Topaz device unless your SIM is unlocked or attempting to flash a Topaz radio w/o HSPL.
Personally, there are enough Topaz radios posted in the radio thread that I don't need my SIM unlocked to try others.
Symptoms of a problem radio are poor signal strength, rapid battery loss and your device heating up.
I have switched my radio ROM a few times but honestly haven't noticed a difference from my stock radio.
The stock ROM you downloaded would replace your Stock Radio if you happen to flash to a different one.
Your region and carrier are also a factor in choosing a radio, so again, just stick to stock unless you have issues.
Dude.. That radio thingie made me EXTREMELY paranoid and I see that there is dozens of different roms from dutty and thousands of rom in general where many of them seems to come with radio-thingies... I am extremely afraid of choosing something that will brick my system, so please, please help me through this, even though you already have been extremely helpful.
If I were on my own, I would go with this:
http://htcpedia.com/duttys_topaz_wm_leo_r_rtm_e11d19c3e22de899a/soft/htc-topaz-rom.html
But to be honest I dont know if it will work on my device or if I will be able to get it with a danish language pack..
Please help me choose the right one.... I am ready to rock, so I hope for a quick reply, and I promise I will do a extra good deed tomorrow to repay the world for all the help you gave me tonight.
came99 said:
Dude.. That radio thingie made me ETREMELY paranoid and I see that there is dozens of different roms from dutty and thousands of rom aswell where many of them seems to come with radio-thingies... I am extremely afraid of choosing something that will brick my system, so please, please help me through this, even though you already have been extremely helpful.
If I were on my own, I would go with this:
http://htcpedia.com/duttys_topaz_wm_leo_r_rtm_e11d19c3e22de899a/soft/htc-topaz-rom.html
But to be honest I dont know if it will work on my device or if I will be able to get it with a danish language pack..
Please help me choose the right one.... I am ready to rock, so I hope for a quick reply.
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Don't sweat it Bro, if its posted as a Topaz ROM then its got the Topaz Radio, the only thing you risk is not being able to connect to certain 3G bands.
I've used Dutty's R-8 and its not a bad ROM, but its a little outdated and I didn't see that it had multi language support.
I am really having a hard time locating a Danish language ROM.
I find FRE. GER, ITA, ESN, NLD, WWE, but no DAN????
"I am really having a hard time locating a Danish language ROM.
I find FRE. GER, ITA, ESN, NLD, WWE, but no DAN????"
Then it aint just me being total clueless.. I cant find any either..
Im bafled by this world.. I basically have two modest demands: To record calls in mp3 and get easy access to my to-do list.. preferably on my homescreen, but just as good by one of the nifty Hotbuttons Ive seen in pictures..
To get those two modest demands fulfilled I either:
- Need to give up on my danish interface and crack my phone beyond warranty and a chance of bricking it.
- Disable HTC sense and go with WM interface
I know how limited I would be with any other phone, but this road I got myself on is really amazing
came99 said:
"I am really having a hard time locating a Danish language ROM.
I find FRE. GER, ITA, ESN, NLD, WWE, but no DAN????"
Then it aint just me being total clueless.. I cant find any either..
Im bafled by this world.. I basically have two modest demands: To record calls in mp3 and get easy access to my to-do list.. preferably on my homescreen, but just as good by one of the nifty Hotbuttons Ive seen in pictures..
To get those two modest demands fulfilled I either:
- Need to give up on my danish interface and crack my phone beyond warranty and a chance of bricking it.
- Disable HTC sense and go with WM interface
I know how limited I would be with any other phone, but this road I got myself on is really amazing
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I found some Danish support threads, just search Danish Topaz in XDA and you may find something to load over a WWE rom.
Personnaly I think you will be disappointed if you do not take the plunge.
I had a Rhodium before my Topaz and once I go tmy Topaz, I couldn't stand it. It wouldn't do half the **** my Rhodium did. Because I had my Rhodium flashed to custom.
Finally HSPL was released and I flashed it immediately and can't believe I ever liked that other brick of a phone.
Take your time, get comfy with the process first, and read lots on the language packs.
The brick warning is just a disclaimer and it is very difficult to achieve if you follow the steps correctly.
I know these are expensive toys to take a chance on, but they really are only at 50% capacity out of the box. What a waste....
Bruce, dude, you're a saint. This is why so many folks look to xda for help. You should be commended, but probably won't be! You got my vote.
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Bruce, dude, you're a saint. This is why so many folks look to xda for help. You should be commended, but probably won't be! You got my vote.
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Thanks JD!
Is that commended or condemed???
Just trying to give a little back.
Greetz from SoCal.
I agree.. The helpfulnes here has been overwhelming, and has given me the bravery to try this out. But I am still very nervous.
Let me sum up what I learned from tonight.
1) When following your instructions I will have a phone which I can modify with custom roms.
2) As long as I am 100 % sure the rom is for Topaz I dont have to worry about messing up and bricking my phone due to doing wrong stuff to the radio-thingie? (yes, I still dont understand what that is)
3) I will be able to get back to factory defaults and warranty by installing the official rom you linked and afterwards install the original spl thingie afterwards?
4) Should I mess up and brick my phone, there is a fair chance of being able to restore it by the help of another device and a micro SD-card? (See I DO try and learn myself.. (Its probably incorrect though ))
5) I need to give up on the danish interface, but I will without too much hassle be able to get a danish keyboard?
6) To be absolutely sure not choosing a wrong ROM, please confirm this one as a possible choice: "Duttys Topaz HG R10 [5.2.23541.5.5.0]"
It is downloading and I am ready to take the leap... Geronimoooo!
came99 said:
I agree.. The helpfulnes here has been overwhelming, and has given me the bravery to try this out. But I am still very nervous.
Let me sum up what I learned from tonight.
1) When following your instructions I will have a phone which I can modify with custom roms.
Yes
2) As long as I am 100 % sure the rom is for Topaz I dont have to worry about messing up and bricking my phone due to doing wrong stuff to the radio-thingie? (yes, I still dont understand what that is)
Radio controls cell signal, GPS and WiFi connections.
3) I will be able to get back to factory defaults and warranty by installing the official rom you linked and afterwards install the original spl thingie afterwards?
Yes
4) Should I mess up and brick my phone, there is a fair chance of being able to restore it by the help of another device and a micro SD-card? (See I DO try and learn myself.. (Its probably incorrect though ))
Exactly.
5) I need to give up on the danish interface, but I will without too much hassle be able to get a danish keyboard?
Bingo!
6) To be absolutely sure not choosing a wrong ROM, please confirm this one as a possible choice: "Duttys Topaz HG R10 [5.2.23541.5.5.0]"
That's the one I am currently running. Great ROM!
It is downloading and I am ready to take the leap... Geronimoooo!
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I'm usually not on the forum as much on the weekends but if you get stuck, shoot me a PM which will notify my e-mail and I'll see if I can help.
I take it you were successful with HSPL? If so, thats most of the battle!
Peace!
"5. With any luck, you won't get stuck at 0% and the flash will complete."
Well... Guess what...
Can someone please help.. Im stucked here and having a stroke.
Edit: Tried on 2 different computers and its the same: Stuck on 0 %.. Antivirus disabled.
Hey guys,
New to this whole world of flashing devices and have been browsing for days trying to learn and understand all the different terms associated, so please forgive me if i say something that doesn't make any sense
Trying to upgrade my HTC Touch HD (Blackstone), Rom version: 1.14 WWE (put my phone into bootloader and the SPL is 1.14), was trying to update my phone which is when i came across cooking roms and updating them via flashing, have read Digital Outcast's Dummies guide: flashing 1.56+ roms [v 2.0] - [HSPL][USPL], decided i wanted to follow the HSPL which is when i came across
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=671277
and wanted to install the 'blackSTONEhenge HyPer MaxSense' Rom, said i needed RADIO ROM version 1.14 or above, my stock standard HTC has RADIO Version 1.09, which meant i had to try and flash my devices radio rom.
What im not sure is this HSPL, i dont fully understand if im supposed to try and get/put HSPL on my phone before i do any flashing/ im not sure if HSPL is the 'thing' that allows flashing to become capable...
If someone could help me out as i have been browsing the forums for a few days and its driving me nuts as usually i would have worked it out by now!
Cheers,
Scott
Go to this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505377
dont get confused
1.just download "HSPLWrapper_Blackstone_156OliNex.zip" from "Attached files".
and unzip in a empty folder.
2.connect your phoneto pc via active sync.
3.run HSPLWrapper_Blackstone_156OliNex.exe, click yes/next/ok(sorry dont remember what was it, you phone will restart in bootloader (three color screen and hspl will be done automatically.
thats it.
now flash any radio or rom of ur choice.
nice explanation, just let me add some newbie information:
basically, what you are facing, is flashing three things:
1. you flash hspl, which means that your device will be unlocked for roms of all carriers and all countries, and you will be permanently ready to switch roms any time you want, as it remains in your phone, whatever you do (hard reset, flashing a stock rom, whatever).
2. the radio rom, the radio is the bridge between the windows mobile operating system and the hardware. this is responsible for the fact, that for example switching on wi-fi is done with the same button on any device, independent from which wi-fi card is actually installed. it controls wi-fi, gsm, 3.5G communications, bluetooth, camera and sound input and output. the latest radio for the blackstone is 1.17 (.25.09 i believe). it offers the best quality in all beforementioned services, but drains slightly more power than previous versions, due to higher performance.
as there is actually yet another stepping stone between the OS and the radio, rilphone.dll, it is advised to use a new radio with the cooked roms offered here. most chefs integrate a new rilphone.dll in their roms and they work best with the corresponding radio rom.
3. in the end, you will flash the actual OS rom that changes your operating system, possibly the language, the manila version and everything else. just like formatting your windows xp pc and installing windows 7, your apps, settings and personal information (in this case contacts, appointments, sms...) will be gone.
for it to work, you must flash hspl first, or your device will be unable to accept actual roms, and then proceed with the radio, and before flashing the actual OS rom (in your case blackstonehenge), you should perform a task 29, either you can flash it (see task 29 thread), or use mtty or use advanced ruu, which has an extra option to do it.
this was just a basic introduction to make it easier for you, to understand, what you are actually doing, when attempting to flash, the rest and all the steps to take are in the tutorials, i just find it easier to do, when you actually know, why you do certain steps, helps you remember for the next time.
regards
Chef_Tony
Ok thanks guys for the responses, and especially chef_tony's, cheers.
P.s. Sorry for the complicated response below, its hell to read
I have tried to follow:
Dummies guide: flashing 1.56+ roms [v 2.0] - [HSPL][USPL]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505377
And it hasn't worked, when I follow the HSPL steps I get to step (HSPL2c) and it just sits on 0% and give an Error [262] code (this is the section where we try to flash Blackstone_156OliNex to the device.
The tutorial says: run HSPLWrapper_Blackstone_156OliNex.exe, which then tells us to establish an activesync connection, which i think means we have to get the bootloader mode to USB, in order to get the bootloader to USB Mode I have to connect my phone to the pc before running the HSPLWrapper_Blackstone_156OliNex.exe and leaving it connected to the pc to A) establish the activesync connection(Windows device centre doesn't register the phone as connected whilst in bootloader) then B) get the bootloader mode the USB.
So what i have done:
So the phone is connected to the pc, activesync registers the phone(leaving the phone connected i then),
place it into bootloader (shows USB Mode)
Then run HSPLWrapper_Blackstone_156OliNex.exe (i run it as an administrator)
the program tells me to establish an activesync connection (Windows device centre doesn't register the phone while its in bootloader, which dummies guide tells us to do), i dont know how to establish an activesync connection whilst the phone is in bootloader, so anyway i hit next, next and just click update the rom, and it just sits at 0% and give an Error [262]
Im not sure if the reason for this error is because i haven't put HSPL on the device, im still not 100% sure about the whole HSPL, i think all i have to do for this is run the HSPLWrapper_Blackstone_156OliNex.exe ?? then is the HSPL issue sorted?
Thanks again guys,
Scott
Dis-regard this post
easy thing. i had the same issue when attempting to install hspl for the first time. as described in the tutorial post you mentioned, i went to the part troubleshooting:
Troubleshooting - manual SSPL
- Boot up your phone.
- Copy SSPL-Manual-TouchHD.exe to your phone. In a file browser on your phone browse to where you copied SSPL-Manual-TouchHD.exe and run it.
- Your phone will reboot into its bootloader and should show SPL v 1.07.OliNex.
- When it shows USB at the bottom then run HSPLWrapper_blackstone_156OilNex.exe from your computer again.
- Go to step HSPL3 if successful.
with this extra step it worked for me, because installing sspl directly on your phone, it prevents 262 connection errors and unlocks the device temporarily which makes it easier to install hspl.
Thanks again chef,
ok i connected my phone, then copied the SSPL-Manual-TouchHD.exe to my device, run it and it loads into bootloader, shows spl 1.07OilNex, doesn't show USB no matter how long i wait, i unplug it and don't get serial mode either
Tried re connecting it and still no USB or serial mode comes up :\
I had tried following the troubleshooting tutorial before i posted on here for help
Should i try running the HSPLWrapper_blackstone_156OilNex.exe without USB mode showing?
and really appreciate all the help,
Scott
Following with interest
Tony and Scot enjoying the posts and hoping to pick up a few pearls of wisdom before upgrading. I have played around with my Touch HD and had it dual booting with android from SD card. For some reason I can no longer use my camera in wm 6.1.
I can not find camera.exe cab and was considering upgrading to wm 6.5 to see if that solves the problem.
Billy, im just stabbing at the dark here, but im guessing if you do flash your device to wm 6.5, during the installation of the upgrade, you're .exe for the camera will be re installed and should work again. Gdluck
Upgrading to wm 6.5
Probably right Scotty, I just want to make sure I don't brick the phone for the sake of getting my camera to work again. Have you managed to complete the upgrade?
Haven't yet, just waiting for some words of wisdom from tony
I also had Error [262] when tried to apply HSPL last week.
But, I applied USPL path to install HSPL!
So I entered USPL and started HSPL install.
Then process finished without any problems.
And it's working excellent... now on the 3rd ROM since appliing HSPL...
good idea, the most important thing is to get a stable connection for the bootloader, and if uspl makes it easier to install hspl, i would definitely give it a try. as posted before, depending on your soft branding, first installing hspl can be a hassle, however, once it's done, you never have to deal with it again (which is also, why many long term blackstone users including myself hardly remember, how to go about changing the spl).
also, since you mentioned that in sspl, you didn't see serial or usb in bootloader mode, make sure that your connection is actually stable. in bootloader mode, windows needs another driver for the device from what is used to sync the device (when it is switched on). especially, when using windows vista or windows 7, you should have a look at the thread "[tut] dummies guide: updating htc sync drivers".
especially on windows 7 x64 it can be quite a lot of work to get it running, because these drivers are not digitally signed, so you'd have to sign them yourself, which requires permanent test mode and comes with a watermark on your desktop, which, in turns, can be removed again. in that case, i would advise you to try a windows xp pc first to get your device up and running and you can deal with this later.
so, in short form:
1. in case you use windows vista or 7 and haven't dealt with the driver yet, have a look at the link to the tutorial or use a windows xp pc with activesync installed.
2. if you are positive that drivers cannot be the issue, or you successfully updated them, step forward and try the "uspl to install hspl" method, bodisson suggested.
CRACKED IT! dont have time to type how but ill post what happened once i wake up, thanks for all the help guys, you guys are legends!
Many thanks to Chef_Tony for his help in this matter. You've a lot of mod like qualities mate
Scottygrot, I'm glad you got it sorted in the end.
I'm closing this thread now. In future please post all flashing issues in Dummies Guide thread
Ta
Rick