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I was wondering what Messaging app you guys use, Chomp SMS, Handcent SMS, the regular default Messaging, or an other. I'm interested in your feedback in what one you all use and what you think of the others.
i wish there was a hero messaging port, i really like how that looks, most of the time i just use the default one though
Ive Both, and they got very erritating to me in different ways after a period of time..
Chomp - When I used it, slowed down my phone unbelievably. After close to wanting to exterminate my phone, I uninstalled it.
Handcent - I used this lately, I liked the features, it was slow for a while, but some updates, and it sped up quite a bit. I liked the "Pop-up" feature, because it was less of a hassle to reach my messages, but it quickly became an annusiance because it would light up my screen when I would have it out in public and I would have random strangers looking at my personal buisness on my screen..
Lets just say I uninstalled it very quickly after a few experiences like that.
-So I just use The Default Messaging service now. lol
Thats just some insight on my experience on other applications. ;]
Default (well, default from cyanogen rom) with SMS popup.
volcomdesigns said:
Handcent - I used this lately, I liked the features, it was slow for a while, but some updates, and it sped up quite a bit. I liked the "Pop-up" feature, because it was less of a hassle to reach my messages, but it quickly became an annusiance because it would light up my screen when I would have it out in public and I would have random strangers looking at my personal buisness on my screen..
Lets just say I uninstalled it very quickly after a few experiences like that.
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You can change the settings in the menu so that
a) It doesnt light up your screen, or
b) It doesn't show the contents of your message in the pop up, or both of the above
or c) It doesn't pop up at all
It's very customizable
sms popup ftw
I WAS using ChompSMS until last night, switched over to Handcent SMS to give it a try. Never looked back.
I love it beacuse of the timestamp option that ChompSMS doesn't have.
volcomdesigns said:
Ive Both, and they got very erritating to me in different ways after a period of time..
Chomp - When I used it, slowed down my phone unbelievably. After close to wanting to exterminate my phone, I uninstalled it.
Handcent - I used this lately, I liked the features, it was slow for a while, but some updates, and it sped up quite a bit. I liked the "Pop-up" feature, because it was less of a hassle to reach my messages, but it quickly became an annusiance because it would light up my screen when I would have it out in public and I would have random strangers looking at my personal buisness on my screen..
Lets just say I uninstalled it very quickly after a few experiences like that.
-So I just use The Default Messaging service now. lol
Thats just some insight on my experience on other applications. ;]
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Same here lol
Where's the option for "None of the above because SMS is an overpriced and underfeatured relic of the nineties"?
/\ /\ = weirdo.
Handcent.
Used Chomp for 2 months. Individual text tones for contacts was great.
Once Handcent updated with this never looked back.
Chomps create "new message" is bigger and easier to use. But Handcent custimozation is superb.
Handcent all the way. There is no reason to use any other app (besides default, if its just your preference). Handcent has EVERY feature a SMS app could ask for, at least for any app on the market, no point in Chomp SMS.
Personally I really don't have any speed problems with Handcent, but for real...every setting you could want, handcent has, plus its constantly updated and new features are added.
I used to use Chomp, but I am tired of apps that look like iPhone apps (Handcent included).
Now I use the default app and SMS PopUp on Droid. What I really want is something that looks like the default app, splits messages over 160chars, has a time stamp and has the ability to send texts to groups.
That would be perfect.
jashsu said:
Where's the option for "None of the above because SMS is an overpriced and underfeatured relic of the nineties"?
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i think that might fall into the "other" category.
for me it depends. i had used handcent since i got my phone, but then at one point it started having problems with recieving messages but not keeping them(and somehow they didnt stay in the default messaging app either!). so i was losing messages, unacceptable. i went back to default. default(on cm of course) truely is the best of all of them, its just very plain and the least flashy and minimal functionality. but otherwise still always has been the most reliable. so i got stuff like sms pop up for a while and other options. but i saw handcent got updates so a couple weeks later i came back to it and i love it again
i tried chomp. i do not see why anybody would ever choose chomp over handcent. maybe possibly over the default, but better than handcent? ridiculous!
i'd like to know some of the settings or maybe screenshots you guys have of your handcents since its so customizable
l_0_s said:
I used to use Chomp, but I am tired of apps that look like iPhone apps (Handcent included).
Now I use the default app and SMS PopUp on Droid. What I really want is something that looks like the default app, splits messages over 160chars, has a time stamp and has the ability to send texts to groups.
That would be perfect.
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and handcent does every single one of those options....
to me, it seemed like handcent was too cluttered. yes, there were an amazing amount of features, but it took so long for me to actually get something i liked that it wasn't worth doing it every time i flashed a new rom. chomp is for me
grandomegabosses said:
to me, it seemed like handcent was too cluttered. yes, there were an amazing amount of features, but it took so long for me to actually get something i liked that it wasn't worth doing it every time i flashed a new rom. chomp is for me
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i totally feel you there, ive been begging the dev to make a backup settings option for a while now, idk why he doesnt.
tehseano said:
i totally feel you there, ive been begging the dev to make a backup settings option for a while now, idk why he doesnt.
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i have been considering trying handcent again. it's been a while since i last used it. i think i might give it another shot again soon. as long as i get those texts out, i don't really care what client i use.
tehseano said:
and handcent does every single one of those options....
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Well, except it looks like a converted iPhone app.
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Well, except it looks like a converted iPhone app.
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How so? You can make it look just like the default Android:
Menu > Settings > Conversation Style > Android
I think he means the style of the general interface...I choose Chomp over Handcent because it feels less cluttered (especially the popup).
If the default app had a BIT more flair to it I'd be all for it...also I don't know why android doesn't have a mass sms feature even yet...that's just ridiculous.
This is a senseless rom. Works great.
You can grab it from here:
http://inc.sodpit.com/roms/ozzeh/
Just installed this rom. It seems to work pretty smooth but when I went into accounts to add gmail it doesnt list it as an option. A big part of the phone experience is having this integration but it looks like it has been taken out. If I am missing something please let me know.
Thanks for the effort!
http://roms.sodpit.com/2010/06/22/unrevolved-zip-by-ozzeh/ you need to install google apps
You can also add your gmail account to the native Mail App but, that takes away from the senseless feel though.
Nice job ozzeh, feels very fast. Very clean.
Btw setcpu doesn't work, does it? (Only questioned your screenshot)
My main question would be, do you see better battery life with the Sense-less UI? I don't really have a problem with Sense in general, other than it seems to run a lot of cr*p in the background, my assumption is this adds to the terrible battery life of the Incredible (compared to the Moto Droid, even when overclocked). Just curious on your experiences with battery life with this rom, might make it worth it.
kentoe said:
Nice job ozzeh, feels very fast. Very clean.
Btw setcpu doesn't work, does it? (Only questioned your screenshot)
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I've never used it but, from what I hear it doesn't work yet.
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My main question would be, do you see better battery life with the Sense-less UI? I don't really have a problem with Sense in general, other than it seems to run a lot of cr*p in the background, my assumption is this adds to the terrible battery life of the Incredible (compared to the Moto Droid, even when overclocked). Just curious on your experiences with battery life with this rom, might make it worth it.
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I just installed it this morning around 6am so far the battery life is alot better but, I'm use to having over fifty apps installed. Give it a day or two, for some real results.
Can't download
When I click the link to download, it just redirects me back to the same page. When I click the apps link, get a cannot be found error.
Anybody else experiencing this??
edit...nevermind. You have to download from the roms.sodpit.com frontpage. Won't download from http://roms.sodpit.com/2010/06/22/unrevolved-zip-by-ozzeh/roms/ozzeh/apps.zip
LOVING the home screen rotation, AH finally! Might actually stick with this one for a bit after I try out jager 1.1
Silly Questions
But, I am really curious how the facebook / contact integration is without the htc sense facebook integration? Is it the same I like that all my facebook contacts link to my google contacts, but does this option go away with sense?
Also sharing photos from the gallery with HTC facebook, seems like it would go away too, and while I haven't used the regular facebook for some time, I remember it not being as easy and as convenient as the other (i.e. couldn't add the photo and create a new album at the same time, etc)
anyone care to share their experience with these 2 things?
can't get this to flash. MD5 sum is correct and everything seems fine but it hangs at the white incredible boot screen forever! Tried everything but it never works, Oh well.
Try redownloading it through your PC browser or phone browser...it works fine for everyone else so there is no reason it shouldn't work for you...other than an error on your end.
ozzeh, my nandroid backups got screwed up. Your unrevolved rom is my default rom for now, hope it'll support me
Is it possible to backup text messages? It'd be nice to have them persist after the flash
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Is it possible to backup text messages? It'd be nice to have them persist after the flash
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yes! SMS backup and restore in the market or Titanium Back up. SMS backup and restore does not need root but ii recommend it 100%!
For some reason Gmail and Google Talk have the 'unknown' android icon, and they both force close when trying to launch... what did I do wrong? Market works fine. I tried applying apps.zip downloaded (twice) from my laptop and once from inside the phone browser to no avail.
ejkeebler said:
But, I am really curious how the facebook / contact integration is without the htc sense facebook integration? Is it the same I like that all my facebook contacts link to my google contacts, but does this option go away with sense?
Also sharing photos from the gallery with HTC facebook, seems like it would go away too, and while I haven't used the regular facebook for some time, I remember it not being as easy and as convenient as the other (i.e. couldn't add the photo and create a new album at the same time, etc)
anyone care to share their experience with these 2 things?
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for me the facebook integration is still essentially the same. and i say that because you can still link all ur facebook contacts to google. also sharing is still the same, as the facebook app for android is the same for sense as well. Now, the caveat to this is I came from my sprint Hero phone with no sense and that is how it worked. Also, I have not personally used this ROM yet.
Honestly77 said:
Try redownloading it through your PC browser or phone browser...it works fine for everyone else so there is no reason it shouldn't work for you...other than an error on your end.
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Considering I am having the same problem, do tell, what error on our end would it be? I mean, yeah, the phone was wiped. The MD5s match. So whats the issue?
Its easy to say user error, its quite another to actually help someone out and explain the problem. If you don't know, then don't say it.
I've compiled my own roms for the Moto Droid, and have never had issues flashing them. I think I am qualified enough to flash a copy and paste job.
Is this what you have to do to apply the rom?
1 Download the build.
2 Rename it to "update.zip".
3 Copy it to the root of your phone's SD card.
4 Turn your phone off.
5 Start up in recovery mode by holding Home and pressing Power.
6 Press ALT+W to wipe your device. (You need to do this, or the device may hang at the flashing Android screen)
7 Press ALT+S to apply the update.
One other thing, if this is truly a sense free ROM, I wonder if JIT will play nice with it. I know JIT hated Sense, perhaps someone with the ROM installed wants to give it a try? I'll try it out later if I have time to install the rom.
Hello from Trinidad.
I have had my N1 for a couple weeks now. I got it stock froyo frf91 I think, Tmobile model.
Anyway here are the issues I have with the device. I'm coming from a long line of Nokia Symbian devices as well as a Blackberry. Its very upsetting that things I have taken for granted on my nokias and bb are not available/implemented out of the box with Android. I can only hope this improves in future.
1) Alarm Clock. It does not go off. This happened both with stock 2.2 as well as Cyanogen. First issue. I edit the default alarms that came with the phone to the time and days that suit me. Set it for 6am Mon - Sat. It WILL NOT go off.
The only way to make it work was to delete the initial alarms that come with the device and then create new ones. This works fine after with stock 2.2. However on Cyanogen it will fail to work the week after.
Example - I set an alarm 2 sundays ago. It will work for Mon-Sat the prior week but for the week after it will not go off.....like this morning:-/. I did install the latest gapps with cyanogen 6.
This is a killer problem. its hard to believe that such a basic feature malfunctions in both Stock and Cyan. :-|
2)Gallery & Sync to Picasa - The gallery app is fine, besides the lag it takes to render photos. Anyway, when I sync my Picasa account with my phone it loads every single Picture from my account, with no way to hide albums or pictures. In addition to that I cannot download pictures from my Picasa account to the gallery..... So its only purpose is to view them?
3)Camera - App worked fine on Stock, sometimes Force Closes or throws the error "Cannot connect to device." on Cyan.:-/
4) Custom Ringtone per Contact - Maybe its me, but I cannot set a custom tone per contact in my address book. I can set a custom ringtone for the phone itself but not per contact. Please tell me that I missed an option and that this has not been left out. Its a basic feature such as an alarm clock......
5) I remembered. Whenever I set a phone number as the default for a contact, it does not save. i would always have to tick "Do this automatically from now on" or something to that effect, select the number and let it dial. After going back to contacts and dial the same number I would have to do it again.
For anyone that is gonna try to assist me this is what I've done so far.
Rooted the device but not unlocking the bootloader via a method I found on xda. I can't post links, but its the method that does not involve fiddling with the battery. Installed market enabler so that I could actually give google my money (way to go google :-/) and bought a couple of apps such as Titanium backup, Beautiful Widgets, Bettercut, Launcher Pro Plus and System info widget.
Btw I've had Beautiful widgets freeze/ force close on a couple occasions.
That's all I can recall. I'm gonna wipe my device to deal with this but I have another question before I do.
As I'm not in a country that can buy apps normally through the store, what will happen to my paid apps? Will they remain on my downloaded list or will they disappear? Any recommendations?
I've backed up my paid for apps with Titanium. Great app ... But how do I backup Titanium backup :-/?
1. NEVER had a problem with an alarm not going off.
2. Don't use
3. No force closes at all
4. View the contact, menu, options
The applications that are downloaded are stored in /data/app/.
The applications are linked to your google account so once you sign in with the same account it will start to restore them. I really don't know how it works for non market enabled countries but it should still show up and I have never seen anyone complain that they can't redownload them.
When reporting problems it's always best to start out fresh because something could have gotten corrupt or incompatibility with something else.
evilkorn said:
1. NEVER had a problem with an alarm not going off.
2. Don't use
3. No force closes at all
4. View the contact, menu, options
The applications that are downloaded are stored in /data/app/.
The applications are linked to your google account so once you sign in with the same account it will start to restore them. I really don't know how it works for non market enabled countries but it should still show up and I have never seen anyone complain that they can't redownload them.
When reporting problems it's always best to start out fresh because something could have gotten corrupt or incompatibility with something else.
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I should Have specified No. 4. I know you can set "system ringtones" to contacts, but I meant music, .mp3 files etc.
MarcP :D said:
Hello from Trinidad.
I have had my N1 for a couple weeks now. I got it stock froyo frf91 I think, Tmobile model.
Anyway here are the issues I have with the device. I'm coming from a long line of Nokia Symbian devices as well as a Blackberry. Its very upsetting that things I have taken for granted on my nokias and bb are not available/implemented out of the box with Android. I can only hope this improves in future.
1) Alarm Clock. It does not go off. This happened both with stock 2.2 as well as Cyanogen. First issue. I edit the default alarms that came with the phone to the time and days that suit me. Set it for 6am Mon - Sat. It WILL NOT go off.
The only way to make it work was to delete the initial alarms that come with the device and then create new ones. This works fine after with stock 2.2. However on Cyanogen it will fail to work the week after.
Example - I set an alarm 2 sundays ago. It will work for Mon-Sat the prior week but for the week after it will not go off.....like this morning:-/. I did install the latest gapps with cyanogen 6.
This is a killer problem. its hard to believe that such a basic feature malfunctions in both Stock and Cyan. :-|
2)Gallery & Sync to Picasa - The gallery app is fine, besides the lag it takes to render photos. Anyway, when I sync my Picasa account with my phone it loads every single Picture from my account, with no way to hide albums or pictures. In addition to that I cannot download pictures from my Picasa account to the gallery..... So its only purpose is to view them?
3)Camera - App worked fine on Stock, sometimes Force Closes or throws the error "Cannot connect to device." on Cyan.:-/
4) Custom Ringtone per Contact - Maybe its me, but I cannot set a custom tone per contact in my address book. I can set a custom ringtone for the phone itself but not per contact. Please tell me that I missed an option and that this has not been left out. Its a basic feature such as an alarm clock......
5) There was something else but damn I forgot lol.
For anyone that is gonna try to assist me this is what I've done so far.
Rooted the device but not unlocking the bootloader via a method I found on xda. I can't post links, but its the method that does not involve fiddling with the battery. Installed market enabler so that I could actually give google my money (way to go google :-/) and bought a couple of apps such as Titanium backup, Beautiful Widgets, Bettercut, Launcher Pro Plus and System info widget.
Btw I've had Beautiful widgets freeze/ force close on a couple occasions.
That's all I can recall. I'm gonna wipe my device to deal with this but I have another question before I do.
As I'm not in a country that can buy apps normally through the store, what will happen to my paid apps? Will they remain on my downloaded list or will they disappear? Any recommendations?
I've backed up my paid for apps with Titanium. Great app ... But how do I backup Titanium backup :-/?
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Il answer all ur probs. Der is a solution for all of it.
Be4 i answer der is one thing: u posted as if vry1 at xda forced u 2 buy an android device. People lyk u shud not b given an android device . Grr
Now to ur problems
1) as of stock , it shud work fine if u delete the initial alarm. On cyan it cud b a bug of cm6. Go 4 stock as of now. Also dont 4get 2 turn ur alarm volume high.
2) if u ever want to hide pics in ny of the folder jus rename the
folder as .name that is with a dot b4 the name. As for only being able to view the pics. WAT ELSE DO U NEED THE PICS FOR !!! MAKING PANCAKES?. ughh!!!
3) it works fine on stock , so use it till cyan fixes any bug if der is any.stop complainin unnecessarily
4) click on any contact. Select options > ringtone. Then set it as u want. Y cnt u do this on ur own.
IS UR DISPLAY TRANSPARENT....
Wts the matter wid u
5) gud 4 u dat u 4got.
First appreciate this great OS. U cnt even compare android with those other OS '. By the way gud luk with android. No offence was jus kidding.
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4 ur 4th prob. Create a folder in ur sdcard named audio . Inside it place 4 subfolders named ringtones, alarms, notifications, ui. Then watever file u place in these folders will appear in the corresponding selection boxes. Bt u must reboot 4 this to work. As of my last post srry 4 bein rude, i was sleepy. Its 3 am in here
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hafis93 said:
Il answer all ur probs. Der is a solution for all of it.
Be4 i answer der is one thing: u posted as if vry1 at xda forced u 2 buy an android device. People lyk u shud not b given an android device . Grr
Now to ur problems
1) as of stock , it shud work fine if u delete the initial alarm. On cyan it cud b a bug of cm6. Go 4 stock as of now. Also dont 4get 2 turn ur alarm volume high.
2) if u ever want to hide pics in ny of the folder jus rename the
folder as .name that is with a dot b4 the name. As for only being able to view the pics. WAT ELSE DO U NEED THE PICS FOR !!! MAKING PANCAKES?. ughh!!!
3) it works fine on stock , so use it till cyan fixes any bug if der is any.stop complainin unnecessarily
4) click on any contact. Select options > ringtone. Then set it as u want. Y cnt u do this on ur own.
IS UR DISPLAY TRANSPARENT....
Wts the matter wid u
5) gud 4 u dat u 4got.
First appreciate this great OS. U cnt even compare android with those other OS '. By the way gud luk with android. No offence was jus kidding.
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If that is your attitude, why bother?
No offense, just kidding.
hafis93 said:
Il answer all ur probs. Der is a solution for all of it.
Be4 i answer der is one thing: u posted as if vry1 at xda forced u 2 buy an android device. People lyk u shud not b given an android device . Grr
Now to ur problems
1) as of stock , it shud work fine if u delete the initial alarm. On cyan it cud b a bug of cm6. Go 4 stock as of now. Also dont 4get 2 turn ur alarm volume high.
2) if u ever want to hide pics in ny of the folder jus rename the
folder as .name that is with a dot b4 the name. As for only being able to view the pics. WAT ELSE DO U NEED THE PICS FOR !!! MAKING PANCAKES?. ughh!!!
3) it works fine on stock , so use it till cyan fixes any bug if der is any.stop complainin unnecessarily
4) click on any contact. Select options > ringtone. Then set it as u want. Y cnt u do this on ur own.
IS UR DISPLAY TRANSPARENT....
Wts the matter wid u
5) gud 4 u dat u 4got.
First appreciate this great OS. U cnt even compare android with those other OS '. By the way gud luk with android. No offence was jus kidding.
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I just got a nose bleed trying to read this post.
What did English ever do to you?
MarcP :D said:
I should Have specified No. 4. I know you can set "system ringtones" to contacts, but I meant music, .mp3 files etc.
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The "default" ringtone chooser only allows "system" ringtones. The apps "ringdroid" and "Rings extended" give UI's that allow the selection of music/etc as a ringtone. Once one them is installed the next time you try to choose a ringtone it will ask you which application to use (and you can choose to always use that app)
I use CM6 and have just modified the default 2 alarms and they always work. Are you running any kind of auto-task-killer? (BTW they do more harm than good)
If you don't want to sync with picassa then disable "Sync Picasa Web Albums" in "Accounts and Sync" under your google account.
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The "default" ringtone chooser only allows "system" ringtones.
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Create folders on your SDcard
Media/Ringtones
Media/Notifications
And put your MP3 files in there and then you can select them with the default ringtone selector.
Thanks for the responses guys.
1) The alarm issue I'll be testing over the next couple of weeks to see if it works or not.
2) I disabled the sync to albums in accounts for Picasa. I just hoped there was a work around at least to only display public albums or something of the like.
3) Will monitor the camera closely as well.
4) Hey thanks all. I got the ringtones set up, but i'll also try Ringdroid etc.
5) This still happens. Everytime I go into Call log for example, and try to call a contact with multiple numbers, I have to always select the number i want as default and tick "use this as default" or something to that effect.
Any help on No. 5?
Might try out another rom soon or might just reinstall CM6 after a clean Sd card and wiping the phone.
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I use CM6 and have just modified the default 2 alarms and they always work. Are you running any kind of auto-task-killer? (BTW they do more harm than good)
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No task killer of any kind good sir.
List of user installed apps as follows:
Astro
Astro Bluetooth Module
Astro SMB Module
Barcode Scanner
Bat Stat widget
Beautiful Widgets
Better Cut
Colour note
Dropbox
Easy Money
Launcher Pro Plus
Market Enabler
Real Calc
System Info Widget
Titanium Backup
Wave secure
That's all that i've added, but as I said it did happen to me on 2.2 as well.
Nevertheless.I'll be monitoring it too.
Not turning your phone off overnight are you? It needs to be on for the alarm to work.
Nope. Usually the battery is pretty drained during the day so at night is when I have it charging.
Also note that wave secure usually does its automatic backups when the charger is plugged in. Could that affect it?
I don't see how cause I did happen once on 2.2 but I'm beginning to feel that it was just a fluke.
hafis93 said:
People lyk u shud not b given an android device . Grr
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And people like you should not be given access to the internet.
Another question or maybe issue or maybe both...
While the phone is using data over edge, will I not receive calls?
i find it strange that people have been calling me and I get a text message saying that I have a missed call but my phone never rings. I'm only using EDGE data in my area so could that be the culprit?
Do a test, download something and call your phone at the same time?
@hafis93 - I thought that was very funny. They were even helpful responses. I'm gonna try the .name in a Picasa album to see if that hides it.
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Another question or maybe issue or maybe both...
While the phone is using data over edge, will I not receive calls?
i find it strange that people have been calling me and I get a text message saying that I have a missed call but my phone never rings. I'm only using EDGE data in my area so could that be the culprit?
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yes, while on EDGE, very often if someone calls you it will go directly to voicemail and you wont see the call ring on your end. its just the way it is on some EDGE networks, nothing you can do about it, and its not your phone as all phones would behave that way. sucks.
I've done a complete wipe of everything, Data, Cache Davlik etc and reinstalled Cyan and Gapps.
Everything seems to be fine so far, no force closes or camera failures.
Thanks everyone for the help!
One last thing though. Is there a way to enable the market without having to use Market Enabler? Reason being is that I have to "activate" it everytime for it to work.
I know there is a script on xda that does it but haven't been able to search it.
I have another issue to add to this topic. My apologies in advance if an answer to this is already available, can't seem to find it anywhere though.
When approaching the end of my battery life, my phone may start referring the wrong buttons. For instance, it may pick spacebar on the keyboard while I'm pressing letters above. Or strange response inside the browser like brief vibration or sudden zoom while I'm just trying to scroll down or something. I did experience the same issues in the past on stock build. Is there any sort of fix to this for CM6?
Again my apologies if this has been discussed before.
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Hey guys, i have a pretty serious problem with SMS messaging. It seems like my Milestone refuses to receive SMS messages. I've been using FroyoMOD and now i have Cyanogen 7 RC3 from kabaldan. With both of them i've experienced this issue. And it's always the same.. after like a month or so from when i flash the ROM..it's happening again. It's really annoying and people are yelling at me for ignoring them So, if anybody knows what's the deal or has experienced the same issue.. i'll be more than glad if you had any suggestions. For now i pretty much think it might be something like kernel-related or whatever.. i don't really know
Thanks in advance and sorry for my bad english.
install advanced task killer, open the sms app, go to advance task killer and uncheck the sms app...with this setting you can receive sms...
forgot to mention that i use handcent or chomp sms..not the stock app. that also might be the problem. i tried rebooting and i don't think i have any task killer that kills my sms app. unless the task killer is integrated w/ the ROM. Anyway, gonna try this.
Got the same problem here and it's driving me crazy.
I've taken a look at the log and you can clearly see the sms arriving, because android is starting the sms app. But it get's killed before it can safe the sms. I believe it's due to a memory shortage. I've tried several different memory management settings and also tried to fix the sms app in memory by adjusting the oom_adj value (see thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1012330)
But nothing realy helped for long. I still loose many SMS also Whatsapp mostly does not notify me about new messages. Push mail works most of the times. Gtalk notifications I'd say work only in 50% of all cases. I'll probably downgrade to CM6. The milestone simply has not enough memory for Gingerbread.
Is your data memory low?
there is a bug when getting lower than ~20mb of free memory,
(last time I ran in that problem was in 2.1, so i'm not sure if releavent to 2.2 and up)
Yes, it's quite low and can possibly be below 20mb at some times. When I look at it it's usually around 30 Mb. I can get more free memory by adjusting the memory manager settings, but that only means it kills background apps even more agressively, or so I understand it.
Astrowe said:
forgot to mention that i use handcent or chomp sms..not the stock app. that also might be the problem. i tried rebooting and i don't think i have any task killer that kills my sms app. unless the task killer is integrated w/ the ROM. Anyway, gonna try this.
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Handcent seems impossible to run even on stock telus froyo http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12675946&postcount=13
I'm going to reinstall it and test with minfree values of 6, 8, 26, 16, 16, 32.
Hancent is always in the 4th or 5th slot so maybe that will work.
well i just flashed latest MIUI, sent sms to my number and received it.. i think i had SuperCharged minfree from you zeppelinrox. well i guess it's always the same: i flash new ROM, it works and after some time it stops. what the hell.. the thing is i never used stock messaging app, that might be the cause.
I use supercharge script with aggressive 2...moreover i use advance task killer...i didn't lose any sms...before that sometimes I didnt receive any sms...you have to unselect your app for sms(stock one, handcent, chompsms)...I use stock sms app and everything is working...
Its seems you'be got me wrong, I mean applications data memory, not device ram.
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yosriz said:
Its seems you'be got me wrong, I mean applications data memory, not device ram.
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You're right. I got you wrong. I've got plenty of application memory. I've had low applications data memory a few month ago and it took me days to realize taht this causes the phone not to receive any sms. But as soon as you free up memory all SMS seem to be coming through.
mike-08 said:
Got the same problem here and it's driving me crazy.
I've taken a look at the log and you can clearly see the sms arriving, because android is starting the sms app. But it get's killed before it can safe the sms. I believe it's due to a memory shortage. I've tried several different memory management settings and also tried to fix the sms app in memory by adjusting the oom_adj value (see thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1012330)
But nothing realy helped for long. I still loose many SMS also Whatsapp mostly does not notify me about new messages. Push mail works most of the times. Gtalk notifications I'd say work only in 50% of all cases. I'll probably downgrade to CM6. The milestone simply has not enough memory for Gingerbread.
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by the way, What do you mean by "I've taken a look at the log"?
by the way, just got another problem... seems like everytime i flash MIUI ROM (and maybe any other ROM, idk) and recover my messages from backup with SMS Backup & Restore, the phone sends out by itself like 5 messages always to the same people. It happened like 3 times so far.. and it's pretty much possible that i flashed it 3 times.. but i think that might be more like the sms backup-related issue. The 5 msgs seem to have something like hasn't-been-sent-yet flag or whatever.. seriously, i just feel like throwing the phone out the window right now.
Maybe it's application issue?
I've been using "SMS Backup+" for long awhile (probably since november when I first flashed MIUI)
and never ran into problem.
yosriz said:
Maybe it's application issue?
I've been using "SMS Backup+" for long awhile (probably since november when I first flashed MIUI)
and never ran into problem.
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i think so too.. gotta change my backup habbits i guess
thanks for the tip.. i used SMS Backup by Christoph Studer to backup my sms to gmail.. didn't know that there is also something that can restore the sms from gmail.
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by the way, What do you mean by "I've taken a look at the log"?
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Is used the Debuger from the Android SDK. When you connect your phone to the computer you can log almost everything with it in realtime.
Btw. I've just migrated to MIUI to try if SMS arrive here more reliably. But I'm not yet sure I like the user interface. It's rather different from CM7.
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Thanks man!
you've just open a whole world for me..
is it done through adb?
yo can give me reference, that I can search about? thanks.
yosriz said:
Thanks man!
you've just open a whole world for me..
is it done through adb?
yo can give me reference, that I can search about? thanks.
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You need to install the Android SDK from Google. Since you know adb I guess you allready have it. In the SDK there's a file called ddms.bat. That starts the debugger.
Same stuff here...
I´ve had similar issues relating the sms thingy. I´m going to try that app killer thing to see how it goes.
You may view my post here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1112009
Hope someone figures out a way out of this.
Thanks.
Possible solution
Ricfil said:
I´ve had similar issues relating the sms thingy. I´m going to try that app killer thing to see how it goes.
Hope someone figures out a way out of this.
Thanks.
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well i have an observation. after i stopped using all sms backup apps, the problem is gone. and by sms backup app i mean those that backup to gmail, not to sdcard. if you have an app that checks for new sms's and automatically backes them up, then get rid of it.. if you need an one time backup, use SMS Backup & Restore.
like i said, getting rid of automatic sms backup apps did the trick for me.
Dear xda users,
I have quiet some time a problem getting notification message in whatsapp and hangouts (even in the previously version on Google talk).
When i clear all apps with Task Manager. Exit to home screen. meaning, Whatsapp is not running in the background, I get no pushed messages, no notifications. Nothing at all.
I then launch the app and get all my "missed" message ,then exit back to the home screen and now I see the messages and notifications.
The same thing happen when the screen is off,actually it seem it start there.
I have no limitation on the background apps,surf only with 3g and it is happen also with hangouts,it is started a few months back before google update her app,in the old Google talk also.
The most strange thing is when i launch a game,because it uses the internet when i exit from it and not clear my task manger it seems like whatsapp and hangout getting the message for day or two and there again nothing,maybe i imagine i really do not know
My phone model is i9305 with official Samsung Nordic Rom.
i used avast anti virus until couple days ago.
By the way whatsapp+ that i saw here recently could help me in any way?
I really appreciate your help. :good:
want to clear it one and for all to enjoy my phone.
Thanks in advance,
David
Hi David,
you kinda answered yourself, the problem is with the task manager. I suggest reading the following:
http://www.howtogeek.com/127388/htg-explains-why-you-shouldnt-use-a-task-killer-on-android/
Chris Hoffman can explain better than me
BTW it's also says directly on whatsapp that it will not work well with task managers.
Cheers
Dear eytan123,
Thank you for your replay,I want to clarify myself and tell you that i do not use any external task manger,but only the built in one in jellybean.
In addition even when i do not "clear" my ram it still no working,i also compare it to others galaxy 3-i9300&i9305 that use and clear the ram with the built in task manager and still not suffer from this Phenomenon.
I guess Samsung keeps this app because it lets inexperienced users(unlike you and myself, or for that matter anyone in XDA ) the feeling that they can upgrade their performance...anyhow - It's strongly suggested that you don't activate\use ANY task killer.
Why not trying the suggested method for a couple of days? I'm sure your results will be much better
Thanks again for trying to help,but i already try this couple of times before open this thread.
Unfortunately not a single method that i tried was useful to me.
like to hear if you have another idea
upp
bumping a thread more than once every 24 hours is against the rules. don't post until you read them
Just noticed you asked about the whatsapp+ - it's not supposed to make things any better, only customizations. And you said the problem persists at the new hangouts.
If you're certain that your internet connection(cellular of course) is working good, before I suggest wiping and re-flashing or trying another rom I suggestthat you use the following app(it increases battery usage in a VERY MINOR way):
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5hbmRxbGltYXgucHVzaGZpeGVyIl0.
Try clear data
Make sure sync is on
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Hi,
Thanks eytan123 but this app that you gave me it is just for rooted phones,i do not want to root my phone in this moment,about the rom,it is the same problem that i experienced in my previous official rom.
Still glad to hear about this app for future notice
Thanks hello5629,if you mean to clear app data i already try this also
You wanna tell me that only my phone suffer this problem?
Just making sure - have you tried to uninstall and reinstall the apps ?
yep,several times..
Well I guess that leaves you with factory reset your phone.
But since your'e not rooted keep in mind you'll lose all your apps..
ya i know,i do not really want to do it,i think i will open a thread in general android forum,maybe there when it is not only i9305 community,maybe some will have the answer.
Thanks again for your effort