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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx9H9UuUuq8
Where to download the thing
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please somebody??
THis at best seems to me a WAD theme. Or am I wrong, may be I would be more interested to see me wrong this time.
Looks like yet another shell program, but apparently a good one
pretty fancy when he posts a link can you put it up here?
here is the post from the guy who put up the video
http://www.htctilt.com/showthread.php?t=661
yaa it seems something like those shell programs. I don't know if it will be anything more than just few windows program. @ryan don't worry you will surely get one when it will be out. Cheers.
i will contact the coder i think that windows vista for kaiser will be released very very very soon
If it wasn't simply a Shell User Interface then why would it run within Windows Mobile?
I suppose you're going to install Desktop applications on your Kaiser? Like everyone can afford 300+MB for Office?
It's bad enough on full sized PCs
Without bringing it to PPC platforms as well. Aside from the 'resource' issues already referred to, there's also the fact that even WM 6.1 doesn't offer full driver support for much of the hardware it's commonly (and officially) installed on. A good example is that unlike the desktop WHQL driver certification scheme where many of these drivers are included in native OS desktop builds, there's no such luck with Windows Mobile and it's a free-for-all with Microsoft allowing devices to be sold with their OS and no proper driver support. Maybe WM 7.0 may correct this (for example by offering full Qualcomm MSM72xx chipset support) but thats no help for Kaiser owners wanting to play video using just native apps.
What's really needed is to get the current Windows Mobile OS sorted and working reliably with full performance (and that additionally includes sorting the poor performing shambles that is currently known as Activesync/WMDC) before trying to add additional 'cosmetic' features.
Look for it
January 09
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Look for it
January 09
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It is January 09 isn't it? JK
this looks sweet! can't wait for it to be available!
It is January.
That looks awesome! I spent days trying to find the stupid "Vista Portable Edition" Wisbar theme and never succeeded. Grab it quick, cause I'm pretty sure the reason the previously mentioned Wisbar theme was so hard to find is because Microsoft forced people to remove it. This is great though.
Dave
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It is January 09 isn't it? JK
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yes, l0l i wanted to say with this, that the vista shell app will be released very soon ...
cheers
awsome will wait patientlly then jump on it lol
its getting late in the month is this still coming out you think? (i hope)
I think the developer is still not able to solve some issues. Its going to be end of jan in week time to come. Hope we will be having it in our devices by that time.
Hello
Title says it all.
Do you think it is possible to port Nokia's MaemoOS (www.maemo.org) from the new Nokia N900 to hTC devices?
Thanks for answers.
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Hello
Title says it all.
Do you think it is possible to port Nokia's MaemoOS (www.maemo.org) from the new Nokia N900 to hTC devices?
Thanks for answers.
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Hi,
What are the difference with it and Winmo, Android,...?
that's hot!
im curious too about maemo...
i've taked a look on the web,but i found nothing....
It's Debian based running Hildon-Desktop on top...
With enough devs doesn't seem too hard to port, we already got Linux Kernel running on some PDA's it's mostly an Hildon-Desktop doing the rest.
Would be interesting indeed, I am currently waiting for Android to the HD, but Maemo would be nice too ! And I think I am not the only one.
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Hello
Title says it all.
Do you think it is possible to port Nokia's MaemoOS (www.maemo.org) from the new Nokia N900 to hTC devices?
Thanks for answers.
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There is community driven edition of Maemo called Mer. It is fully open source and it should in theory be possible to run it on blackstones at the moment. But it is not that usable/fully polished as Maemo 5 on Nokia n900. HTC Touch Pro is already mentioned on http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Status.
PS. I'm following UPS delivery of my n900, will have it on monday
Don't forget that the N900 is a really powerfull device with alot more "oempf" then our HD's.
I think that as an linux distributable, android is allot more qaulified for our HD's then Meamo will ever be
Thank you all for very good replies
I did not think that this would make such an interest...hope more people will read this and maybe some DEVs too
probably yes, but given the time and effort required, it would be easier to just have people buy an n900. poeple choose a blackstone because they want winmo/tf3d or whatever
i like to think it like this - if someone found a way to attach a coffee machine to a blackstone, id be interested, but given the time and effort required to get it to work (not to mention practical) i wouldnt be too fussed. anyone who wanted coffee machine functionality might have bought the wrong device
id say lets android working first then maybe work on other linux OSs would be easier
A couple of things:
By default Mer uses LXDE as its desktop but you can switch to Hildon (the n900 UI) using update-alternatives (Google it).
However Hildon uses Clutter which uses GL, and it all runs on Xorg, so unless there's a hardware 3D driver for Xorg for your device you're going to be out of luck I think (unless you like horribly slow and jerky UIs). Afaik there isn't an accellerated 3D Xorg driver for Raphael. Not certain but pretty sure.
Hey all has anyone been secretly working on the wp7 rom for the X1? if so lets start a thread for it
i don't think its been leaked yet, has it?
Well I dont know if anybody is working but I trying to make this theme
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633755
I love to have WP7 on SEX1 (if it is possible)
I guess hardware requirements wont let you to function smoothly but chefs here can save us with a barebone edition of WP7
Cheers
i hate to break it to u guys, but we don have a proper OEMXip and drivers from wm6.5 which is the same CE version as 6.1
how do u expect a XIP + oemdriver for wm7 when its completely different driver set + newer version of CE.
n lets no forget the touch capacity screen requirement of wm7
so unless MS decides so make it backward compatible to older device, i just don see it. and knowing MS i don think they will. coz they cant sell just an OS at retail. it comes with a device. so if the old device can run 7, it will mean less sell of newer products will be sold and no company would want that.
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i hate to break it to u guys, but we don have a proper OEMXip and drivers from wm6.5 which is the same CE version as 6.1
how do u expect a XIP + oemdriver for wm7 when its completely different driver set + newer version of CE.
n lets no forget the touch capacity screen requirement of wm7
so unless MS decides so make it backward compatible to older device, i just don see it. and knowing MS i don think they will. coz they cant sell just an OS at retail. it comes with a device. so if the old device can run 7, it will mean less sell of newer products will be sold and no company would want that.
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Yes, that's correct.
But can't you guys, extract WM6.5 drivers out of the xperia X2? The hardware is almost 95% the same as our beloved X1 D), right?
sadly we wont be getting windows phone 7
but there are rumors that microsoft is making a sucessor to the 6.5.X line. I really do hope so! CE is soooooo old! and the new 6.X better not be CE.
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Yes, that's correct.
But can't you guys, extract WM6.5 drivers out of the xperia X2? The hardware is almost 95% the same as our beloved X1 D), right?
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Like if the X2 will ever get wm7, stop dreaming
So X2 drivers are useless for wm7 because the drivers are ment for wm6.5
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This doesn't make any sense.
I dont understand this CE thing...can't we update it..AFAIK, its a software version rite???so can't we have it updated on X1???
Pointless in discussing now, as no WP7 betas out... no one knows the final min specs...
might be 1ghz processor with tegra required...
microsoft did say in all the video's i've watched that the min specs will be quite high to ensure that user experience is rich.
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meaning the new 6.X should not be based on CE
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Pointless in discussing now, as no WP7 betas out... no one knows the final min specs...
might be 1ghz processor with tegra required...
microsoft did say in all the video's i've watched that the min specs will be quite high to ensure that user experience is rich.
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I happened to see some windows 7 add on youtube which has a pyramid hovering over all users... and i think the guy is using windows 7 phone operating series (or whatever they call it) ..... the good thing about it is that the guy is using an xperia X1. Now i know that there is a good chance the screens were added post recording and are all fake... but lets all just keep our hopes high and fingers crossed
i'm not very sure about drivers. We have seen that htc devices are quite similar about hardware so maybe possible, as we are already doing with wm 6.5, to use drivers of other devices.
cant we update the CE..
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cant we update the CE..
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If you mean update the CE to CE7 then No, as stated above it is pointless to even be discussing this right now since we don't even have the proper hardware/drivers to even run WP7 properly and the beta isn't even out yet, your just going to have to wait for 6.6.
If you guys want WP7 so badly try upgrading to new hardware.
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i'm not very sure about drivers. We have seen that htc devices are quite similar about hardware so maybe possible, as we are already doing with wm 6.5, to use drivers of other devices.
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Yeah, but like if they build an htc with such low-end hardware like the xperia for such a high-end os like windows phone 7, no way thats gonna happen. No way they are gonna beat iPhone then.
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i'm not very sure about drivers. We have seen that htc devices are quite similar about hardware so maybe possible, as we are already doing with wm 6.5, to use drivers of other devices.
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We are not using drivers from other phones. Atleast not the whole OEM shizzle. Drivers(except some video drivers etc) are device specific and can't be used on other devices
min specs for WP7 is quite high... i read snapdragon +1Ghz CPU would be required...
credit to msoft for raising the bar (ensuring user experience will be similar all round)
sadly this means that our qualcomm 528mhz processor + ati graphics might not cut it...
While this does make wp7 look nice with the high specs, it would also make the phones more expensive. Though, snapdragon should be cheaper by then.
WP7-lite for us 528mhz people!
will the HD2 still run WP8 or is our hardware that old? what would be the minimum phone that can run WP8? :silly:
WP7 is rally fast in the HD2 & it runs really well, i hope the same can be said for wp8.
If you currenty own a Windows phone, it can NOT run windows phone 8, thats it.
You must buy a new phone with windows phone 8 on it.
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If you currenty own a Windows phone, it can NOT run windows phone 8, thats it.
You must buy a new phone with windows phone 8 on it.
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why did u say that? hd2 is a legend. born as wp6.5 device, got android port and now upto 4.0.4, lol it is one of the device that actually run 4.0.4 before any other official updates. and it have fully working wp7.5 tango running on it. and is 8779.8 version update( lol i m not sure if any official updates have gone so far). and i am not planning to mention other os's that runs on hd2.
the only thing that hd2 lacks is current dual/quad cores and gpu's. any how it have a descent cpu of 1ghz single core ( functions flawless upto 1.5 ghz oc) and enough gpu to run wp7.5 pretty fast( even hd7 wont run that much fast).
and i am dam sure hd2 will be running wp8 pretty soon.. ( may be before any official wp8 device!!!!!!!)
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I seriously doubt it. The devs have moved on to new devices.
Maybe they'll try to port it but it would be a ton of hard work because they switched from Windows CE to Windows 8 kernel. Also, WP7 only got ported because some drivers from Microsoft got "leaked" since Microsoft were using the HD2 to develop WP7 anyway.
But hey, never say never!
hd2 wp8
I personally think there will be Windows phone 8 interface to HD2
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Watch the attitude...
We won't see WP8 for the venerable HD2 because of the simple fact that WP8 has a new kernel. So you would have to rewrite every driver of each hardware component like CPU, Radio, GPU, Wifi, Bluetooth etc. And I really doubt someone will accomplish that.
Guys Just relax,There's DFT
I belive there will be a new MAGLDR version when wp8 is on the way of HD2.
Lets see. How it goes
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will the HD2 still run WP8 or is our hardware that old? what would be the minimum phone that can run WP8? :silly:
WP7 is rally fast in the HD2 & it runs really well, i hope the same can be said for wp8.
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Yes the HD2 has been seen running test versions of WP8.
The important question is whether it will be possible to flash it in such a way to make it run on the HD2 once WP8 is out.
MS is very keen on the secure boot feature of the new snapdragon chips which is partly why we won't see WP8 for our current devices.
I hope someone with more knowledge can elaborate on this´.
The chip is called TPM which will be responsible for the secure boot procedure.
http://wmpoweruser.com/trusted-platform-modulethe-secret-of-microsofts-attack-on-rim/
Despite all aspects, if look on new HTC devices specification, clearly HD2 if good enough to run WP8. Spec is same like low new model.
It is just up to guys from Dark Force and others.
Hey guys, as my colleague has already stated above, please watch the attitude and show each other some respsect.
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Hey guys, do you think it is worth to buy a HD2 now? I really miss the WM, but I like the WP too, mostly because I already got used with it.
Can the HD2 dual-boot WM and WP? Would not be kinda late to buy one?
Since my 200Mhz Gene is almost useless, and my Lumia won't be upgraded to WP8 anyway, I thought it is a good ideia. What you think?
Thanks.
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mateus_rachid said:
Hey guys, do you think it is worth to buy a HD2 now? I really miss the WM, but I like the WP too, mostly because I already got used with it.
Can the HD2 dual-boot WM and WP? Would not be kinda late to buy one?
Since my 200Mhz Gene is almost useless, and my Lumia won't be upgraded to WP8 anyway, I thought it is a good ideia. What you think?
Thanks.
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Absolutely. It's one of the best Windows mobile 6 devices, and it also runs Android (as a joke, you can even run WM7 on it, but the worst part of censorship is *******************).
- 2 Bunny
kainppc6700 said:
Absolutely. It's one of the best Windows mobile 6 devices, and it also runs Android (as a joke, you can even run WM7 on it, but the worst part of censorship is *******************).
- 2 Bunny
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And it actually shipped with WM5.x... At least my Telstra HD2 I bought for AT&T did. It's probably the most versatile phone ever made.
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If you currenty own a Windows phone, it can NOT run windows phone 8, thats it.
You must buy a new phone with windows phone 8 on it.
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The OP asks if the HD2 can possibly run WP8. In case you weren't paying attention before launching your tirade, the HD2 is a Windows MOBILE device. As in, started life as a WM6.1 phone and is the only device that has been modified to run Android AND WP7 successfully. It is not a stretch to think that some clever devs will try to do it, purely for ****s and giggles. Forget about different kernels and any other obstacles, that is irrelevant. Being able to proclaim "I did it!" is satisfaction enough.
Good thing hackers don't all think like you, there would never have been an xda.
i remember that when WP7 launched,,some ppl said "WP7 wont work on HD2 cuz hardware stuck, new file structure bla bla bla,,, " ,, now when i see ppl talking about WP8 wont work on HD2 cuz new kernel and bla bla,, its being funny... This is XDA,, dont be precise when you talking about "hacking"... i am sure if XDA devs want to make it works on HD2 they will do it,, remember Android and WP7 on HD2 process.. yes devs move to new devices,, yes HD2 is pretty old,, but HD2 is a legend,, i can tell that some devs gonna try just because its HD2... wm6.5 wp7 and android,, why not WP8??
Because WP8 is a completely different OS, altogether.
Giving it to current devices as a scaled version as 7.8 is the most they could do.
Now, its a OS, proper modding and changes could get it to the HD2 or even the current devices, except the GPU rendering, its too much for a single core.
The most you will get is the HS and integrated stuff, you wont be able to play the games WP8 devices can play!
this is still a 50:50 thought.
Wp8 HD2
Can't wait to see new WP8 on the history making HD2! Hopefully..
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Can't wait to see new WP8 on the history making HD2! Hopefully..
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...& for the moment care to try Triple Boot? via native SD?
check out the link below
Was curious if anyone one has looked into dual booting on this device. Like Firefox OS and Android. If no one has checked into ill will when i get my phone back friday. If its not possible then maybe ill just try porting Firefox OS for our device. Already looked into the firefox porting and doesnt look like it will be that hard to get it on our devices. however i still prefer dualboot if possible.
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Was curious if anyone one has looked into dual booting on this device. Like Firefox OS and Android. If no one has checked into ill will when i get my phone back friday. If its not possible then maybe ill just try porting Firefox OS for our device. Already looked into the firefox porting and doesnt look like it will be that hard to get it on our devices. however i still prefer dualboot if possible.
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Would be nice but I don't think its possible, but there was something in the galaxy s thread about it so idk.maybe talk to camcory about it.
Ya that's what gave me the idea about doing it for our phones. I wait on asking camroy til i get my phone in and get at least a native port of Firefox OS before worrying the dual boot part for now. Plus I'll have to test the port and see whats majorly broken and what is not. Worse case I know i can take a different approach and do like I did back in the day with my windows mobile 2003 phone and have it on the sdcard. So you start up like normal into (for this case just saying how the windows mobile/android boot worked) Windows Mobile. Then launch an app that shuts down windows mobile completely to free up resources then it boots up android GB (when i did this) from sdcard. It really wasn't hard to get it to do that. So i don't see why we couldn't do the same for this phone but Android and Firefox OS. Least the brighter side of using android and firefox is that they both are made for the same hardware where compared to my windows mobile phone it ran an xscale cpu ( Windows only cpu ). So it shouldn't feel slower than what it would by it's self. Android just wasn't made for intel xscale cpus.
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Ya that's what gave me the idea about doing it for our phones. I wait on asking camroy til i get my phone in and get at least a native port of Firefox OS before worrying the dual boot part for now. Plus I'll have to test the port and see whats majorly broken and what is not. Worse case I know i can take a different approach and do like I did back in the day with my windows mobile 2003 phone and have it on the sdcard. So you start up like normal into (for this case just saying how the windows mobile/android boot worked) Windows Mobile. Then launch an app that shuts down windows mobile completely to free up resources then it boots up android GB (when i did this) from sdcard. It really wasn't hard to get it to do that. So i don't see why we couldn't do the same for this phone but Android and Firefox OS. Least the brighter side of using android and firefox is that they both are made for the same hardware where compared to my windows mobile phone it ran an xscale cpu ( Windows only cpu ). So it shouldn't feel slower than what it would by it's self. Android just wasn't made for intel xscale cpus.
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Well the s4 has dual boot and HTC is capable and what i was reading in the galaxy s forum it looks like i might be capable. And for firefox i see in the nexus s the camera and bluetooth doesnt work but i think cam has fixes for that so i guess youll find out once you compile the rom. If you need help with testing or anything let me know I'd be happy to help.
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Well the s4 has dual boot and HTC is capable and what i was reading in the galaxy s forum it looks like i might be capable. And for firefox i see in the nexus s the camera and bluetooth doesnt work but i think cam has fixes for that so i guess youll find out once you compile the rom. If you need help with testing or anything let me know I'd be happy to help.
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Well got my phone back already got AOIP on it and been testing out the device its self to make sure it wasn't defective and its not. So now I'm gonna start working the firefox os port with in the next few days. its been quite a while since I've done any programing and what not so not promising anything but I will definitely try. So bare with me on progress. Any how I know we can run firefox os on our phones. according to Mozilla ]https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox_OS/Introduction hardware requirements is arm6 cortex5 or better cortex 7 with neon, adreno 200. then the rest is standard wifi/3g gps and others like that. So yeah its possible. its just building the rom and fixing device specific bugs. Also yeah I wouldn't mind having internal beta testers when i get to that point. Just glad mozilla has a lot of useful resources on porting it.
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Well got my phone back already got AOIP on it and been testing out the device its self to make sure it wasn't defective and its not. So now I'm gonna start working the firefox os port with in the next few days. its been quite a while since I've done any programing and what not so not promising anything but I will definitely try. So bare with me on progress. Any how I know we can run firefox os on our phones. according to Mozilla ]https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox_OS/Introduction hardware requirements is arm6 cortex5 or better cortex 7 with neon, adreno 200. then the rest is standard wifi/3g gps and others like that. So yeah its possible. its just building the rom and fixing device specific bugs. Also yeah I wouldn't mind having internal beta testers when i get to that point. Just glad mozilla has a lot of useful resources on porting it.
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Best of luck.