So, as we generally disscussed google is blocking downloading of paid apps from market.
1) It is NOT related to your firmware version (JF\Stock\ADP etc.).
2) It is related to your IP. Means, if you're not a US T-mo resident, you can't see any of those marvelous apps.
So, The Test:
1) Can we copy\upload some of the "closed" apps?? ( Could be done through the Terminal Emulator
2) Try to run them.
To clarify the spirit of experiment, I'll suggest the cheapest apps to be tested, though they are hidden from us to. Any contributors ready to hit the new Scene?)
Here's what going on.
If you're IP is not from the US you will not see paid apps.
If your running ADP or have a ADP phone you will not see protected apps.
If you moved your app-private folder to sd you will also not see protected apps.
"So, The Test:
1) Can we copy\upload some of the "closed" apps?? ( Could be done through the Terminal Emulator
2) Try to run them."
No, that's stealing.
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If you moved your app-private folder to sd you will also not see protected apps.
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Unfortunately, I have pretty much proven to myself that this is not the case. Yesterday I moved app-private to my SD's ext2 partition and subsequently lost access to paid apps so I thought moving them caused the the loss of access. I ran some experiments (detailed over around post272 in LucidREM's modded image sticky) and finally, after 3 or 4 experiments, gave up trying to pin down the cause. I moved app-private back to SD yesterday afternoon and have generally continued to have access to paid apps, both new ones and updates to ones I've already bought. They still disappear and, while I still have a hunch or two, I'm not yet ready to blame any action in particular.
Just my $.02
my app-private is on the ext2 sd and NO PROBLLEMm
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Unfortunately, I have pretty much proven to myself that this is not the case. Yesterday I moved app-private to my SD's ext2 partition and subsequently lost access to paid apps so I thought moving them caused the the loss of access. I ran some experiments (detailed over around post272 in LucidREM's modded image sticky) and finally, after 3 or 4 experiments, gave up trying to pin down the cause. I moved app-private back to SD yesterday afternoon and have generally continued to have access to paid apps, both new ones and updates to ones I've already bought. They still disappear and, while I still have a hunch or two, I'm not yet ready to blame any action in particular.
Just my $.02
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That's strange. The moment I deleted the link and remade the /data/app-private folder then rebooted, I could see protected paid apps again. I did this at least 3 times.
Smokuevo said:
my app-private is on the ext2 sd and NO PROBLLEMm
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Can you see protected apps such as bettercut and guitar hero on the market ?
I can't seem to figure this out. Sometimes apps are there, sometimes the ones that were there aren't anymore and its not developer pulling or any change on my phone. I'm unlocked on a dev phone on AT&T. I can see many paid apps (Task Manager, HelloIM) and the like, but I can't see things like the office one. One thing I've noticed is I have no app-private directory in /system. Just my $.02 but google you've shot yourself and developers in the foot here by basically making piracy a necessity unless we find away around it or you fix it.
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Can you see protected apps such as bettercut and guitar hero on the market ?
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I have mine moved to the sdcard, and I can see, install, and use BetterCut just fine. Even moved it, and all apps, back and forth from the sdcard just fine, with no problems.
Phromik said:
I have mine moved to the sdcard, and I can see, install, and use BetterCut just fine. Even moved it, and all apps, back and forth from the sdcard just fine, with no problems.
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Weird, for some reason its working for me again. I guess it was just my phone.
I have an ADP1 phone, and I'm quite irritated that I can't access copy-protected apps on it
Google's reasoning is to fight piracy, but there's more rooted G1s than there are ADP1s, and in my personal opinion, since most of the ADP1s in the wild are Google's own employees, I think their fear of "piracy" from ADP1 users is *seriously* overstated, compared to the regular G1s that have been rooted. I'd be far less upset if they just blocked all rooted phones, but singling out their own employees and their devs, and accusing them of being potential software pirates, while normal end users who have hacked their phones aren't even considered, well, I find it *quite* offensive.
rc33 1.42 app & app-private on sdcard.. no credit card so havent bought any
im.l0ltn said:
That's strange. The moment I deleted the link and remade the /data/app-private folder then rebooted, I could see protected paid apps again. I did this at least 3 times.
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Yup, same thing happened to me. Other things I did made paid apps disappear too (like turning off my GSM radio and only using WiFi to access the Market), After spending most of an afternoon trying various scenarios to see which caused the apps to disappear, I gave up, moved apps back to my SD card and left them there. They still go missing every so often and I still can't figure out why or what causes them to disappear but I reboot and, generally, full access is restored.
why dont somebody just make a mod version of the app market or make another redesigned app market. im no expert btw.
sensimila said:
why dont somebody just make a mod version of the app market or make another redesigned app market. im no expert btw.
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I think this is because the market.apk is a close source program. I'm still a noob myself and I'm trying to learn a lot of new information.
If you guys want protected apps on your ADP just flash an RC build on it.
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If you guys want protected apps on your ADP just flash an RC build on it.
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That's a really piss poor solution, FYI. The whole point of ADP is having an unlocked and unbranded OS.
uberingram said:
That's a really piss poor solution, FYI. The whole point of ADP is having an unlocked and unbranded OS.
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flash the RC version, download your app, place it on your SD card, flash back to ADP, and re-create links for apps on SD, your app will still be there
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That's a really piss poor solution, FYI. The whole point of ADP is having an unlocked and unbranded OS.
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Could you please elaborate? Last time I checked T-mobile isn't branded ANYWHERE in the OS. Your "whole point" of having an ADP is slightly flawed.
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Could you please elaborate? Last time I checked T-mobile isn't branded ANYWHERE in the OS. Your "whole point" of having an ADP is slightly flawed.
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*cough* myFavs *cough*
haitiankid4lyf said:
rc33 1.42 app & app-private on sdcard.. no credit card so havent bought any
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Looking at the screen shots you have a lot of apps us uk users don't.
I've even put my phone back to standard just to see if having a rooted phone was stoping
Me from getting paid apps. Where left with all the crap ones now lol.
Related
Its out now, anyone seen it yet?
This should help out a lot...hopefully next we can move apps to the mem. card.
just found that you can view the app data by going to system and then to apps.
you think if we were to make a app folder on the mem. card they would run? im going to play around and see what happens
well the manager at the moment only lets you view the files. I have tired multiple times to cut and paste program files onto the mem. card but with no luck. possibly the second file manager program will have all of the bugs out of it.
but....
do you think if we had a system/app file on our mem. card the phone would pull the apps off of our card? just trying to get things rolling here so we can get everything FINALLY on our cards and stop wasting all of our phone memory.
THANKS
I don't think so... but could be wrong. I noticed the card only has "media" folders nothing yet is stored on the card really.
ya i noticed that as well....hopefully this is a step in the right direction. once we can actually view ALL files and are able to move things around then things should start to get interesting.
what if we were to somehow make a shortcut to tell the phone where the app is? so only the command to the app on the memory car would be on the phone. it would be a VERY small size file on the phone compared to the entire app...think this may work?
I doubt we can ever be able to move or view all files. Google set it up so our version is locked down and no one can get root access.
neoobs said:
I doubt we can ever be able to move or view all files. Google set it up so our version is locked down and no one can get root access.
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Just one damned symlink. That's all we need.
neoobs said:
I doubt we can ever be able to move or view all files. Google set it up so our version is locked down and no one can get root access.
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No root? Oh Google, and you said you opened the platform but forgot to give us the root password
sfdteam said:
No root? Oh Google, and you said you opened the platform but forgot to give us the root password
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Platform is open... it is the provider who locks the platform so that you can't do just anything you want. IE steal their my faves app code or some such code they find secretive.
neoobs said:
Platform is open... it is the provider who locks the platform so that you can't do just anything you want. IE steal their my faves app code or some such code they find secretive.
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True words. Sometimes I think that openness and mobile operators are two incompatible things. You should be watching the presentation of G1 organized by T-Mobile. All was going good until the audience was able to ask questions. The questions were about operator restrictions on the device and locking. The general mood of the presentation went down after it...
With the source code available, can't the developers just compile a new version of the software to run on the G1 which is not locked by the operator/carrier?
Don't know much about developing but just wondering what it is that really stands in the way?
Byte_76 said:
With the source code available, can't the developers just compile a new version of the software to run on the G1 which is not locked by the operator/carrier?
Don't know much about developing but just wondering what it is that really stands in the way?
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A good developer that knows what he/she is doing is what is standing in our way. This is all new so it will take time for developers to first look at the code and start building. And more time to perfect their talents on this new device and OS.
I'll give props to this program for it's functionality that should have been native.
At work I had a customer who had a bad version of a ringtone he made with Ringdoid and needed to delete. Aside from refer him to edit the SD via USB (which I cannot even do yet w/o swapping devices).
I had him d/l the Android File Manager and use that to locate and delete. Made it easy and only took 2 mins d/l time included.
Based on the good start, this might become the default file manager I use once more options become available within it. (especially the open ability - and a select all would be nice).
android file manager or glance
any ideas? which one do you think is better?
haitiankid4lyf said:
any ideas? which one do you think is better?
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At the moment Glance because it looks as thou Android File Manager is now just for the SD Card I can't seem to access anything else.
I just looked at my phone, and saw 'Su File Manager has been removed from your phone. You will receive an email with details.' No email yet, and I'm wondering WTF is up. I bought this app several days ago, checked my bank account and the payment for it has cleared, so it's not an issue of payment bouncing or something. Anyone else have this happen, or know what's up?
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I just looked at my phone, and saw 'Su File Manager has been removed from your phone. You will receive an email with details.' No email yet, and I'm wondering WTF is up. I bought this app several days ago, checked my bank account and the payment for it has cleared, so it's not an issue of payment bouncing or something. Anyone else have this happen, or know what's up?
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And this is why it is a good idea to keep a backup.
Seriously... huh?
Can you reinstall from the market?
lbcoder said:
And this is why it is a good idea to keep a backup.
Seriously... huh?
Can you reinstall from the market?
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Went to the market, reinstalled with no problem, which makes it seem even more weird, cos presumably if the app was malicious they'd pull it from the market as well as deleting it from phones. None of my backup programs seem to have the capability to backup paid apps (MyBackup, Backup for Root, or Astro).
heldc said:
Went to the market, reinstalled with no problem, which makes it seem even more weird, cos presumably if the app was malicious they'd pull it from the market as well as deleting it from phones. None of my backup programs seem to have the capability to backup paid apps (MyBackup, Backup for Root, or Astro).
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If you're rooted you can just use ADB pull to back it up over usb, and then use ADB install to re-install it over usb if anything happens.
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If you're rooted you can just use ADB pull to back it up over usb, and then use ADB install to re-install it over usb if anything happens.
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My cats have chewed through every mini-usb cable I own. Was planning to go to microcenter this weekend to buy more, but in the meantime, no ADB for me. Anyway to backup app-private from in phone, using the terminal? I have root of course.
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My cats have chewed through every mini-usb cable I own. Was planning to go to microcenter this weekend to buy more, but in the meantime, no ADB for me. Anyway to backup app-private from in phone, using the terminal? I have root of course.
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EDITED to protect the Devs.
to restore just install via astro.
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mount -oremount,rw /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
mkdir /sdcard/backup
busybox cp /system/sd/app-private/NAMEOFAPP /sdcard/backup
to restore just install via astro.
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Ah, of course. Thanks!
do not abuse that command please. support the devs.
hiroots said:
do not abuse that command please. support the devs.
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There was no mention of warez anywhere in the above posts that i noticed. She purchased the applications.
hiroots said:
do not abuse that command please. support the devs.
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Warez-hunt and Witch-hunt start the same way. This is actual help, not theft.
sha.goyjo said:
Warez-hunt and Witch-hunt start the same way. This is actual help, not theft.
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Exactly. I had every intention of helping someone retain something they have already purchased. I do no steal applications, and refuse to help someone else do the same. I wouldn't want people doing it to me, so I don't want to see it happening to them.
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mount -oremount,rw /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
mkdir /sdcard/backup
busybox cp /system/sd/app-private/NAMEOFAPP /sdcard/backup
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You do NOT need to remount the /system partition.
1) You are copying files OFF, not on,
2) Those files are NOT EVEN on the /system partition. They're on the SDCARD (in your example) which is mounted within the /system path (but is not actually part of it), but are more likely in the /data partition (for those not using apps2sd).
*** IN THE EVENT that the apps are installed to SDCARD, you can simply turn off the phone and move the card into your computer to copy them directly to your hard disk for permanent backup.
heldc said:
Went to the market, reinstalled with no problem, which makes it seem even more weird, cos presumably if the app was malicious they'd pull it from the market as well as deleting it from phones. None of my backup programs seem to have the capability to backup paid apps (MyBackup, Backup for Root, or Astro).
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The irony in this situation is that SU file browser will back up (copy protected apps) itself just fine.
Moving anything onto a fat partition that is protected is a grey area. If a mod comes across this post it will be edited. I know its only help, but xda has to cover their ass. This topic should be helped through PM's instead of being public broadcasted. The poster that helped with the commands and the person who quoted them should edit their posts now that the OP fixed their issue, the mods already got their hands full, we should help when we can.
if the devil was on earth he would wear all white and work for unicef!
Too many people allow the information of copying protected apps, so therefore people abuse this info anyone with a simple curiosity could find the info on there phone without people having to teach them like myself, but once I found the information I shared it with nobody and assume they could figure it out themselves!!! So please do not PLEASE DO NOT! Inform people how to backup paid apps! I don't know how many people read the comments in the marketplace but its full of people who steal and trade these apps blatently without regard for repercutions, leaving there email addresses and everything! So believe me intelligent people will figure this out themselves this is not information that should be googled I am personly trying to pass this information around to all moderators to ban this information so please help me in stopping this, root is a gift for people who understand not thos who follow the bandwagon to just steal apps (most of which don't cost more then 5$), strangley the people who need the help only have one thing in mind.
So please treust me if we don't stop this the idiots will win and the marketplace will crumble only the honest people keep it afloat only the intelligent should be able to obtain this precious info and they won't have to ask for the process they are smarter then that! They will find they file and already know the commands to do what they see fit for the application. This should not be easy! It should be protected by devs and moderators for the sake of the community knowledge is power unless you give a simple walkthrough to a thief or idiot or power hungry moron with no respect for others or creative artists and they use it for there personal benefit not the furthering of progress infact just the opposite!
It's only fair (as described in fair use) that users have the ability to backup their own purchases and downloads. As far as what they do with them, that's up to their own conscience. It's not ours to judge.
If they decide to illegally share it, then report them and be done with it.
The discussion on piracy is taking this thread off topic; please cease immediately.
I'd like to know more about the circumstances in which this app was removed, specifically whether it was "kill-switched" by Android Market or something else entirely.
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The discussion on piracy is taking this thread off topic; please cease immediately.
I'd like to know more about the circumstances in which this app was removed, specifically whether it was "kill-switched" by Android Market or something else entirely.
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I doubt that it was kill-switched. If it was, then it would have coincided with the app being pulled from the market and it is unlikely that it would allow such simple reinstall. This is, of course, assuming that they even *can* kill-switch an app like that. I have heard discussion about it, but nobody has offered even a shred of proof, so I really doubt it.
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I'd like to know more about the circumstances in which this app was removed, specifically whether it was "kill-switched" by Android Market or something else entirely.
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It seems pretty clear it wasn't kill-switched, since I was able to re-download it right away, and it's still available. I wish I'd thought to screenshot the alert that it had been removed, but I was so surprised to see such a thing I just didn't think about a screenshot until after I'd tapped ok.
The only explanation I can imagine, and this is purely hypothetical I've got no evidence for it, I'm just guessing, is that there was a server hiccup someplace when google went to actually collect the payment for the app. (The pre-auth for buying apps always hits my account immediately, but the money doesn't actually get taken from my account for 2-5 days.) So, google got told 'no moniez for you', and told my phone 'no app for you!', but then the server hiccup resolved itself, google got the payment for the app and I was able to re-download the app.
Since there wasn't a rash of people posting saying this happened to them, it seems clear this issue was somehow specific to me and my phone, and since I had bought the app a few days prior (well over 24 hours before the incident tho), the only explanation I can think of is the above. I wish I had some way to know what it was, but since I never did get an email about it, I'm stuck guessing.
anybody else???
has anybody heard of an instance of this happening since this original post?? anybody? or does it seem she is the only person to experience this? just for my curiosity and interests...
"fair use" huh, i wonder if that has a 24hr return policy on it?
Long story short: I bought my Nook to root it. I'm not a complete moron, but I'm a little overwhelmed by all of the options for modifying the Nook. I have tons of iOS experience since I have an iPhone business on the side, so I'm not afraid to mess around with something.
The problem is, the only Android device I've spent more than 20 minutes with is the Samsung Captivate, which was ridiculously easy to root and then unlock so I could sell it.
Other than that, not much Android experience.
I bought the Nook because I need a portable device to view documents and the occasional entertainment. I'm a pilot and instantly recognized the advantage of being able to take aviation publications with me everywhere, including the cockpit. I considered the iPad since I'm intimately familiar with iOS, but the cost was a little higher than I wanted to go.
So, here's what I need: a VERY stable Nook that can efficiently read PDF files, H.264 movies and still maintain respectable battery life. I will be heading overseas with less than dependable access to internet, so I need something that's pretty worry-free since I might not be able to worry with finding a fix online.
Where to start?
I've already rooted it using AutoNooter, but it seems wonky at best. The N button rarely works at all and SoftKeys isn't much help either. I currently haven't found a way to go "back" in the Market app, and still haven't figured out how to sign in on my YouTube account.
So, what are your suggestions for setup? Please be detailed with your suggestions and save the flaming for someone who cares.
Thanks!
I didn't like the stock rom either...
I went immdiatly to nookie froyo, which is the most stable rom other then stock.
You should try it.
You should also try cm7 and it varients, but those are less stable.
you can check out the tutorials on remapping the volume keys for back and menu, although I find soft keys a valiable option.
Can you point me to the best method of install for Froyo? Is it better on internal or keeping it on the SD card? I'm not worried about warranty or restoring the stock ROM, so which one is best overall?
LongbowFoSho said:
Can you point me to the best method of install for Froyo? Is it better on internal or keeping it on the SD card? I'm not worried about warranty or restoring the stock ROM, so which one is best overall?
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Try it on the SD card first, just to start. If you screw up, you can just format the card and start over, it's relatively pain free that way. But it will run a little snappier on the actual Nook eMMC, but you can always do that later.
Another factor is that B&N will be updating all Nook Colors to Froyo in April. If you run off an SD card until then, then you can root the Nook after that update (with new Autonooter built for that new update), and you will have a more stable Froyo since it will be a professional kernel built for the hardware.
You'll need a Sandisk Class 4 or 6 uSD card or a Transcend Class 6 (unless you have already bought something, in which go ahead and try that card).
The build is at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922324
Yeah......about that "don't flash the internal memory" part.....
Everything went great until I rebooted and now its stuck at the Android screen with the flashing cursor.
Now I'm just trying to figure out how to restore it. Ugh.
I'm using a 32GB SanDisk SDHC Class 6 card, BTW.
EDIT: Well, I was able to get the build from your link running from the SD card, but all of the processes suddenly and continually fail. All I get is pop up after pop up about errors.
I'm done screwing around with this for today. If I can't get something usable by tomorrow night, I'm selling this POS and getting an iPad. This isn't worth it just to save $100.
I don't know what all you did to the internal memory, but chances are this will work to get back to stock.
http://nookdevs.com/Flash_back_to_clean_stock_ROM
If that doesn't work then
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=945838
Softkeys works, and I use it, but it's...not intuitive...this page made things clear for me. Reading through this should get your n key working and whatnot.
http://nookdevs.com/NookColor_Default_Launcher
Disabling the service in the softkeys settings was good for me. That stupid little button was always in the wrong place no matter where I put it and wasn't useful anyhow. I also didn't install home switcher or whatever. If you get your n button set wrong, you can just clear the defaults from the app settings for whatever app is set to the n button.
Sounds like you got it rooted and everything, but here is a link for reference anyhow.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=942424
A note on those instructions: youtube did nothing but crash on me. The purpose of logging in with youtube is to get your device linked to your google account so you can get into the market. I didn't use youtube, i think i used gmail or the market itself or something. I don't remember. I just uninstalled youtube, you don't need it. Youtube video's still download and play in the default video player if you visit youtube.com from the web browser.
As far as your options for operating systems. I haven't used froyo, and haven't spent much time with honeycomb, so grain of salt and stuff. Plus it really depends on what you need/want.
Note: after booting a fresh burn for the first time, just walk away for five minutes. I'm not sure why (maybe something to do with the not quite jit doing it's thing?), but it will be more stable if you do.
Froyo gives flash and slightly better performance over stock. I think video is on par with stock, but it could be worse, i'm not sure. It's almost certainly not better. I can't speak for stability, as I haven't tried it. I think bluetooth is possible but not realistic? I know occip got the chip responding, but I haven't seen anything indicating it's useable. Links in previous posts so i won't make another.
Cyanogenmod gives all that froyo gives plus bluetooth support. Video framerate is poor (movies, not games and whatnot). Stability isn't as good as stock. Mostly it's fine but every once in a while things start force closing like mad and i have to reboot. Also battery life isn't good with cyanogenmod. Sleep has been disabled as there is a bug with it. It will still last over a day without a charge though. It's what i use day to day. Really amazing and fast moving. Seems like every day a new major bug is fixed or a whole new piece of hardware is working. Linkie:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
Honeycomb is really cool and it's amazing what deeperblue did (without much source omgwat?) but it's still kinda just a toy until google releases all the source code. No flash, no hardware accelerated video, no bluetooth, no reason to use it, other than aesthetics. Annoying ui glitches in portrait mode. Neat and worth an sd burn to play with, but not for using day to day in my opinion.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936995
Of course there is no need to choose one! There are a couple option for multibooting in the forums and I intend to get around to combining a few to triple boot. Right now this is what I use:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=947698
I'm set up to boot rooted stock off internal memory and cm7 off of uSD
P.S. If you just want it to work and be a full tablet it might be worth the extra $150 or so for an IPad. The nook has been fantastically useful for my needs and I don't think i've had this much fun with a piece of kit since my first apple II. On the other hand I've wasted a fair number of hours reading about and "bricking" the thing so...ymmv depending on what your needs/wants are.
Hi, Im new here, too.
Id like to do this "Go back in Root Explorer, and in system/app, mount as r-w and rename Phone.apk and TelephonyProvider.apk to anything else (adding .bak onto the end would be fine)." But I can't change the permission...
Even I do habe only CWM 3.0.0.6 and like to have the newest one (3.0.1.0) and Iam using right now the Phirmod V5.1
Has anyone some hinds? Cheers
Can you elaborate on "can't change permissions"? Can you not find the option, or are you making the change and its not working?
For your clockwork upgrade question, is your recovery internal, or on a bootable SD?
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Thanks for the detailed response, ylixir. I'm attempting to go back to stock now and will definitely try your suggestions.
I'm still going to try Nookie since the general consensus is that it's the most stable. I don't care about BT or even Flash since I'll just be using this mostly for mobile document viewing in Afghanistan.
Thanks again and will update with my results.
chef123 said:
Hi, Im new here, too.
Id like to do this "Go back in Root Explorer, and in system/app, mount as r-w and rename Phone.apk and TelephonyProvider.apk to anything else (adding .bak onto the end would be fine)." But I can't change the permission...
Even I do habe only CWM 3.0.0.6 and like to have the newest one (3.0.1.0) and Iam using right now the Phirmod V5.1
Has anyone some hinds? Cheers
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I know you're new and all, but generally its considered rude to jump into someone else's thread and ask your own question. You'll probably get a lot more visibility (and subsequently a solution to your problem) by making your own thread.
Thanks!
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I know you're new and all, but generally its considered rude to jump into someone else's thread and ask your own question. You'll probably get a lot more visibility (and subsequently a solution to your problem) by making your own thread.
Thanks!
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Dude! The forum rules tell you to search and piggyback existing threads before making your own thread. The idea is that the closely related information is localized, and searching is made much more easier without having multiple threads on the same subject...
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Well, I've got it back to stock 1.1 now. I'm VERY happy to see that since I still might sell this thing if I can't make some headway with a usable ROM.
danger-rat said:
Dude! The forum rules tell you to search and piggyback existing threads before making your own thread. The idea is that the closely related information is localized, and searching is made much more easier without having multiple threads on the same subject...
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Well, this is the first forum I've ever seen that operates that way.
Well, just tried running Froyo from the SD card and it just sits at the Android splash screen (the animated one). It also did this last night, but I thought it was because of the non-functional Froyo I had flashed internally.
I guess I'll give HC a shot to see if anything actually works on this device.
Just ran HC and although I finally got past the "decrypted data" error (after three re-images and flashing, no less), I dunno.
I'm going to try rooting the stock 1.1 again and see how that goes. If I can't get comfortable with that, then I'm done. I have better things to do besides sitting around for hours and hours trying to get something to be remotely practical for every day use.
If I wanted a tinkering project, I'd buy an old car.
Autonooker is super easy to get the stock ROM working as an Android tablet.
I'm sure it's stated on the wiki that Nookie Froyo and other ROMs are in development and not meant for stable systems.
Anyway, hope Autonooker works for you
Good news! Looks like perseverence pays off because rooting 1.1 seems to have worked perfectly this time.
I am fully signed in on YouTube and email, and all the buttons are working properly.
Now that I've finally gotten that out of the way, is there a way to OC the stock ROM? Its not really a need, just curious LOL. I've seen SetCPU mentioned a few times, but IIRC its intended for 2.2 and up only. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Also, best PDF reader for stock ROM?
chef123 said:
Hi, Im new here, too.
Id like to do this "Go back in Root Explorer, and in system/app, mount as r-w and rename Phone.apk and TelephonyProvider.apk to anything else (adding .bak onto the end would be fine)." But I can't change the permission...
Even I do habe only CWM 3.0.0.6 and like to have the newest one (3.0.1.0) and Iam using right now the Phirmod V5.1
Has anyone some hinds? Cheers
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Get a Terminal Emulator from the Market. Now type in the following:
If running off SD
Code:
su
mount -o rw,remount /dev/block/mmcblk1p2 /system
If running off EMMC
Code:
su
mount -o rw,remount /dev/block/mmcblk0p5 /system
Hope this helps.
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Everything I'm installing doesn't show up on the Extras page. If I want to open FB or Dolphin or something like that, I have to search for it.
A little help?
LongbowFoSho said:
Everything I'm installing doesn't show up on the Extras page. If I want to open FB or Dolphin or something like that, I have to search for it.
A little help?
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Install a new launcher, such as Zeam, Launcher Pro, or ADW. I prefer Zeam myself. Then you'll be able to immediately see new apps you've installed.
I've been getting this error on a few apps lately. This includes some apps I had but were closing so I reinstalled them. Getting this on Alice Pro and My Beach HD. When sorting my apps by size, it says 862MB used, 650MB free. If I pick on SD card, it says 9.2GB used, 16GB free. I've moved some over to SD and gotten it up to 682MB free and still getting the same errors. In a lot of other threads it mentions to push a bunch to the SD but we don't have a typical dedicated one. Any input?
Could it be I hit that magical limit of apps on the TP? Does anybody know this number?
NapalmDawn said:
Could it be I hit that magical limit of apps on the TP? Does anybody know this number?
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50 apps on SD
scariola said:
50 apps on SD
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Only 25 listed as being on the SD card. Perhaps it's time for a wipe and reinstall of apps. Is there anything that causes somebody to get these errors when the space is perfectly fine?
I had similar issues on another make of tablet and it was the tmp filesystem had a load of rubbish in it. I am aware also that sometimes the download cache area can be too small but not heard of that issue with CM on the TP.
dmarchant said:
I had similar issues on another make of tablet and it was the tmp filesystem had a load of rubbish in it. I am aware also that sometimes the download cache area can be too small but not heard of that issue with CM on the TP.
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Do you know where I should look to see if the tmp area is choked out? From what I can tell, none of the standard areas have much junk laying around.
A few apps that worked fine now are FCing. One, for example, is the Alice voice commander. Vlingo and Andy seem to be fine. A few games FCed too.
In case others wind up with this, the odex removal part of this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1589920&page=2 has helped tons.
did we lose this capability in the Note 8? still haven't found a setting and my aqua mail isn't letting me select my extSD for storage of attacments. anyone find it or is it gone? any workarounds other than root?
I honestly thought that ability was removed several years back. Like maybe 3-4 years ago. I could be mistaken.
PsiPhiDan said:
I honestly thought that ability was removed several years back. Like maybe 3-4 years ago. I could be mistaken.
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thanks. wtg Sammy. take away the functions we use most. why allow large external sd cards if you can't store anything there. zero permissions to access it for important apps and no way to move hoggy apps there. nice. definitely rooting again. so tired of paying for fewer and fewer really usable features. dumbed down devices are not my thing.
toenail_flicker said:
did we lose this capability in the Note 8? still haven't found a setting and my aqua mail isn't letting me select my extSD for storage of attacments. anyone find it or is it gone? any workarounds other than root?
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haven't tested it yet, but found an option under Developer Options. hope it works.
Settings>Build (enable dev options)>Developer Options>Force Allow Apps on External
PsiPhiDan said:
I honestly thought that ability was removed several years back. Like maybe 3-4 years ago. I could be mistaken.
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Yes it was . Google removed that ability in kitkat.
Some applications have option to move to SD, but not all: settings/apps click on application, then storage. If you don't see "storage used - change" then that app is not movable. However SD card is not as reliable and fast as internal store, so I wouldn't move important apps even if I could.
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haven't tested it yet, but found an option under Developer Options. hope it works.
Settings>Build (enable dev options)>Developer Options>Force Allow Apps on External
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Just tried this and it shows that it was "moved" to my SD card. The storage being taken up increased but on the internal storage it reflects the same. So probably didn't work.
Edit: Okay so it does work but not for all of the Apps/Games I tried. I'd say about 10% of the apps I tried didn't actually go over to the SD Card but the rest of them did.
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Just tried this and it shows that it was "moved" to my SD card. The storage being taken up increased but on the internal storage it reflects the same. So probably didn't work.
Edit: Okay so it does work but not for all of the Apps/Games I tried. I'd say about 10% of the apps I tried didn't actually go over to the SD Card but the rest of them did.
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some clarification for me...
so even though inside the "apps info" tab on a particular app, if it says "external storage" it may still live on internal? or will it show "internal"?
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some clarification for me...
so even though inside the "apps info" tab on a particular app, if it says "external storage" it may still live on internal? or will it show "internal"?
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Exactly, at least from what I'm currently experiencing. For example I had 18.2GBs before I moved GTA San Andreas which is roughly 2.8GBs. From what I can tell it didn't increase my space on the internal as I still have the same 18.2GBs but it also took up more space on my external SD card. So I don't know if it is some false positive but I've restarted a few times and installed other apps. The storage still hasn't changed. Maybe someone else can shed some light on this phenomenon?
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Exactly, at least from what I'm currently experiencing. For example I had 18.2GBs before I moved GTA San Andreas which is roughly 2.8GBs. From what I can tell it didn't increase my space on the internal as I still have the same 18.2GBs but it also took up more space on my external SD card. So I don't know if it is some false positive but I've restarted a few times and installed other apps. The storage still hasn't changed. Maybe someone else can shed some light on this phenomenon?
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Thanks for the follow up.
I moved some things over to SD card (i have a 400gb SSD card) like WhatsApp, philips hue, instagram.. things like that. Nothing serious like any CPU intensive apps. I "see" SOME more internal storage open up but i need to look into it further myself.
Still thanks for starting this discussion. I miss the old days of moving apps to SD (there used to be a program , apps2sd, that would do this in the early days of android) and 64gb is not a lot of storage for apps today. Most of us have over 100+ apps (on a power user device like this device, I would have expected more).
If understand its safer to keep apps internally so as to now cause issues, but having their ability to Mose simple apps like WhatsApp and such, can help.
I don't plan to root so being able to do this and KNOW it will work is intriguing.
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Yes it was . Google removed that ability in kitkat.
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I have kitkat on my N4 and I still have that ability. I am rooted of course.
pete4k said:
Some applications have option to move to SD, but not all: settings/apps click on application, then storage. If you don't see "storage used - change" then that app is not movable. However SD card is not as reliable and fast as internal store, so I wouldn't move important apps even if I could.
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the bigger picture for me, until root, is being able to allow different apps to store their images, docs, etc. on my extSD. things aren't working the way I think they should. man I hate knox. need root now.
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Still thanks for starting this discussion. I miss the old days of moving apps to SD (there used to be a program , apps2sd, that would do this in the early days of android) and 64gb is not a lot of storage for apps today. Most of us have over 100+ apps (on a power user device like this device, I would have expected more).
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you're welcome. did a search and was surprised someone hadn't already brought it up. I haven't seen anything that I can move, and it appears as if it's not working at all for me on Sprint. I'll check again later. got tired of things that didn't work and started to play.
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the bigger picture for me, until root, is being able to allow different apps to store their images, docs, etc. on my extSD. things aren't working the way I think they should. man I hate knox. need root now.
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Google has been screwing with SD card access since Kitkat, if I remember correctly. They don't use it on their phones and messing with permission and all kinds of nonsense to make people move away from SD card to use and pay for their stupid cloud. At least now the permissions are set properly. Anyway, root could be difficult on Snapdragon, S8 just got root few weeks ago, around 6 months after release, so don't hold your breath. But I'm finding that a lot of stuff requiring root can be accomplished with ADB, I just wish somebody made a comprehensive list of ADB tricks. In the past I used root mostly for disabling bloatware and adding functionality, like adding AC3 codec, but there are workarounds for some of those things, just hard to find sometimes. Knox doesn't bother me too much, I may be using it's secure folder for sensitive data, like banking, credit cards, I just hope it's as secure as they say it is, because I have my doubts.
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...I'm finding that a lot of stuff requiring root can be accomplished with ADB, I just wish somebody made a comprehensive list of ADB tricks. In the past I used root mostly for disabling bloatware and adding functionality, like adding AC3 codec, but there are workarounds for some of those things, just hard to find sometimes. Knox doesn't bother me too much, I may be using it's secure folder for sensitive data, like banking, credit cards, I just hope it's as secure as they say it is, because I have my doubts.
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good info about adb. I'm out of practice with it and, yes, a comprehensive list of working adb commands would be great. I'm not in a hurry for root. I know it takes a while. and if we don't get it (I would be surprised) I can deal.
toenail_flicker said:
the bigger picture for me, until root, is being able to allow different apps to store their images, docs, etc. on my extSD. things aren't working the way I think they should. man I hate knox. need root now.
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I'm not one to root but the main reason i want SOME apps on SD is their folders they store their data in, like whatsapp for example. Conversations in WhatsApp span many years and gigs of videos and photos in a few of those conversations. Having that on an SSD card would be choice.
P.s. Lol love your screen name bro... :good:
Go into developer options and you can turn it on. You can put majority of your apps on your card. No system apps.
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I'm not one to root but the main reason i want SOME apps on SD is their folders they store their data in, like whatsapp for example. Conversations in WhatsApp span many years and gigs of videos and photos in a few of those conversations. Having that on an SSD card would be choice.
P.s. Lol love your screen name bro... :good:
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thanks.
and exactly what you said. some apps like whatsapp... and others. it's just necessary. for the moment I just want the permissions fixed and that's going to take disabling knox and/or applying a fix to do both like for the N4. not sure that type of thing is even doable anymore.
Ill keep an eye out on this thread. If you found more tips/updates on this please post.
I just moved a LOT of stuff over to SD. Evertying i could. Some things, google maps for example, didn't have the option of moving over, so maybe some of these will stick..
I was one danergously low on internal storage, but if i can move things over, I will.
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Go into developer options and you can turn it on. You can put majority of your apps on your card. No system apps.
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I found it on another screen instead of where I thought it would be. nice. it's working.