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Igo8 final review

Nav N Go, the makers of the iGO mapping solution just unveiled iGO8. iGO8 is unique in that it provides not just 2D and tilted 3D maps, but realistic 3D maps with building renderings in select US cities. Of course, not all buildings are rendered, but it looks realistic enough to actually help guide you along the way, especially in busier areas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUzQkR0H2S0&feature=related
Anyone know how to make skins for the igo8 final? or if tmc works with the tilt

If it does run, it will probably run like cr*p in the 3D view w/o the display drivers that the Kaiser lacks. Regular TomTom is bad enough. My old Axim X5 runs it smoother than my Tilt!

Got it running looks nice but struggles like hell on certain parts and when you have loads of buildings showing up its working hard. I still use tomtom still.

i have it.
I have installed I Go on my Kaiser.
Works a treat and looks great. I think it is as fast if not faster than TomTom.
and i love the TEXT TO SPeach when it says the mane of the road, not just turn right. The 3D mountains look great as well.
PS i dont work for I Go either.

welshdragon said:
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and i love the TEXT TO SPeach when it says the mane of the road, not just turn right. The 3D mountains look great as well.
PS i dont work for I Go either.
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The iGo clearly does not come with spell-checker ;-)

iGo8 - 2008
I've just installed iGO 2008 ...
For a couple of reason ... firstly, to watch the 3D buildings everyone is raving about and secondly, to see if it will run on the TytnII (since the official site states it can).
Verdict:
Yes, iGO8 2008 does run on the TytnII and better still ... unlike the previous version, it does not object to HTC Home engaged in the today screen
The initial menu screen is split into four boxes, 'Find', 'Route', 'Manage' an 'Setting', with soft buttons for 'Map/Cockpit screen' and 'Exit'. The navigation screen is also somewhat different, almost like a flight sim cockpit view. The SD card directory structure has the buildings held seperately.
GPS locked on quickly and auto-set to port 4 but with a high baud rate .. this can be changed though, since I found Tomtom wasn't a huge fan of fast baud rate comms to the GPS.
Some nice features like a menu shortcut to add 'speed camera locations with speed limit reference' on the move, and verbally announcing the GPS dis-engaging ... it's early days and I'll feedback any major issues, but if the gossip that Tomtom are going to discontinue the development of Tomtom for the PDA are true, then it looks like iGO will be the way to go.
I've enclosed a link to the manual if anyone wants to look at it [from the official site @ 1.4mb]

ajs007 said:
I've just installed iGO 2008 ...
For a couple of reason ... firstly, to watch the 3D buildings everyone is raving about and secondly, to see if it will run on the TytnII (since the official site states it can).
Verdict:
Yes, iGO8 2008 does run on the TytnII and better still ... unlike the previous version, it does not object to HTC Home engaged in the today screen
The initial menu screen is split into four boxes, 'Find', 'Route', 'Manage' an 'Setting', with soft buttons for 'Map/Cockpit screen' and 'Exit'. The navigation screen is also somewhat different, almost like a flight sim cockpit view. The SD card directory structure has the buildings held seperately.
GPS locked on quickly and auto-set to port 4 but with a high baud rate .. this can be changed though, since I found Tomtom wasn't a huge fan of fast baud rate comms to the GPS.
Some nice features like a menu shortcut to add 'speed camera locations with speed limit reference' on the move, and verbally announcing the GPS dis-engaging ... it's early days and I'll feedback any major issues, but if the gossip that Tomtom are going to discontinue the development of Tomtom for the PDA are true, then it looks like iGO will be the way to go.
I've enclosed a link to the manual if anyone wants to look at it [from the official site @ 1.4mb]
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Thank you for your feedback and I do like igo8 alot better then the old igo. But I wish they will add more building for the usa maps

Hi all,
I made a data.zip for IGO8 which is working with rezolution 240_240 - http://rapidshare.com/files/115724040/data.zip.html
It isn't look like the original ones, but this is just the beginning.
One bug - after pushing the button Set point as a final destination on navigate screen the program shows an FFUI error - press OK button and everything will be OK.
I'm starting to fix size ot some menu bottons and to improve the skin at all.
Everybody who like to help is wellcome.
Enjoy

outlook contacts
when i put mine outlook contacts in mine phone abouth 200 pices i wil get a error when i start igo8 when i remove the contact's from mine phone all works fine
i did try to remove htc home i won't work
when i put mine contacts on to mine sim it works all fine
i have software NoThrills_WM61_NLD_V3 on mine phone
rom version 3.14.172.0.nld
radio version 1.65.14.06
can sombody help please its to strainge
or is there a good software version that wil work dutch software is no pree

As a dedicated Tomtom user I decided to load up IGO8 and have a look to see how it was and so far I am pretty impressed.
It certainly picked up the GPS signal a lot quicker than Tomtom 6.032. It was very accurate and I like the "You are speeding" feature.
So far I have not had Text to speech operate, not sure why, might be the maps here in Australia.
I would like more choice with voices (I tend to like John Cleese in Tomtom).
It is a real memory hog though, I only run a P3600i and when IGO is running I have 3 meg of free operating memory so it really isn't practical for me at the moment. Maybe whn I can get my hands on the HTC Diamond.
I will give more feedback once I have used it a bit more.

Andych said:
... and I like the "You are speeding" feature.
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I forgot to mention in my ealier thread
... I decided to try out the 'practical' side of the iGO and engage the voices whilst being a passenger in my Wifes car on the Motorway (autobaan/freeway)
... My Wife was not a happy bunny to hear a complete stranger out of the PDA telling her she was speeding !!
I'll have to find out if the software has a 'don't p*** your wife off' function ... mine took years to perfect

I too stopped using TomTom in favor or the latest iGO, the speed warnings, the reading of the street names and not just simple "turn left or right", the buildings and ofc, the 3d terrain is what for me played the major part in swapping over, being able to see if I should be going up or down, below or above another road, is really helpful in new places.
iGo runs fine on my kaiser, up to 3-4 building in medium distance works fine, more then that and it begins to struggle, but, since there aren't many spots with buildings displayed where I drive everyday, it doesn't really bother me.
Oh, and for the dude who asked, TMC doesn't obviously work since we got no FM tuner, and there's no TMC over the interweb in iGo from what I can see

error
i have install igo8 and found these issues.
when i exit out of igo it changes my volume to mute.
when i change the time zone it does not save and it changes the time zone on my device.

The timezone issue is known and their site as a really good explanation on how to fix it, all sites should be searched, not just this one
Just add this to your Storage Card\iGO8\Sys.txt
Code:
[timezone]
sync_os_timezone=0
reset_os_timezone=0

eskostar said:
The timezone issue is known and their site as a really good explanation on how to fix it, all sites should be searched, not just this one
Just add this to your Storage Card\iGO8\Sys.txt
Code:
[timezone]
sync_os_timezone=0
reset_os_timezone=0
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can you link the site so i can go to them
thanks very much

North America
So there are no maps for North America? Is there a demo available ?

Praygo said:
So there are no maps for North America? Is there a demo available ?
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I know that there are version 7 maps for USA available including 3D buildings etc. but not v8 as yet.
I don't think this would be a problem as I've had iGO8 on v7 and v8 of the UK (with buildings) and they both work, so the answer would be yes, but not up to date maps.
Demo - There was a beta version that expired 1st May 2008 or there abouts.
** Note ** USA is available as individual 'States' and not in a single package like Tomtom.

So has anyone been able to get V7 US maps (state-by-state) working on V8 Final or was everyone who's had success with the At&T Tilt (seen a few Tilts in signatures) using the beta version?
ajs007 said:
I know that there are version 7 maps for USA available including 3D buildings etc. but not v8 as yet.
I don't think this would be a problem as I've had iGO8 on v7 and v8 of the UK (with buildings) and they both work, so the answer would be yes, but not up to date maps.
Demo - There was a beta version that expired 1st May 2008 or there abouts.
** Note ** USA is available as individual 'States' and not in a single package like Tomtom.
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I ended up ditching IGO for miomap. Runs faster

I've been using it for a week and a half now and I'm going to say that Igo8 is the best out there. I love it. It works better and faster than tomtom. Also the 3D buildings look fine and perform fine on my phone.

What GPS software

Does anyone know of any other GPS software available for the Kaiser I'm currently using TOMTOM but was wondering what others were available. I need it to have UK maps and I also travel to Florida fairly often so maps for there would be nice too.
I dont want this to turn into another " What is the best GPS software" thread. Just what is available out there and possibly a link to trial versions (if your feeling nice)

livefastdiefun87 said:
Does anyone know of any other GPS software available for the Kaiser I'm currently using TOMTOM but was wondering what others were available. I need it to have UK maps and I also travel to Florida fairly often so maps for there would be nice too.
I dont want this to turn into another " What is the best GPS software" thread. Just what is available out there and possibly a link to trial versions (if your feeling nice)
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GARMIN Mobile XT.

shameless bump

You always have the one that Orange do?????

garmin...igo

hay00c2 said:
You always have the one that Orange do?????
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No NEVER!!!! use orange maps lol

Windows Live Search Mobile. Great software from Microsoft. Since you're UK based it has maps available for the UK and US. Hope you have a data plan though because it downloads maps on the fly.

I use a combination of tomtom, garmin,google and live search moblie....tomtom is more responsive, performance wise compared to garmin. Garmin is more refined and has some neat features.Bottomline, it all depends on personal preference.

Sygic McGuider

garmin seems nice. i know you can load your own custom poi's, and not be limited to 10mb like on a gps unit!!!

How about Navigon MobilNavigator.
I have been using it on my Kaiser ever since I got the Kaiser (I used it on a Herald, a Wizard and a Universal before) and I have always been very happy with it.
I find that the route planning is the best available.
Give it a try.
Good luck with your choice.
nebc100

I've tried a few different GPS apps and I think that the new iGO8 beats them all. Give it a shot... can't say anything about the maps in UK and US though.

Destinator...

Wayfinder - can subscribe to another country for a month or more.

did anyone had problems with wm 6.1 and igo 6 plus?
since i had instaled wm 6.1 (the official htc release) ..i couldn't reinstall igo 6 plus...

Yes
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Sygic McGuider
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Totally agree, this is some great software, the maps are in great detail and the signposts/exit direction signs are lovely. Really easy to see. Then theres the TTS, best one yet - it actually says 'take exit off motorway, junction 3a' in a non robotic way. Its all good..
Google this - Sygic McGuider - and you'll find it..

I personaly use miomaps mainly becasue, you can put on whatever maps you want and all the United States are divided up. The program plus Florida maps is under 92mb

I use iGuidance 4, it gives you door to door directions and works well with my at&t tilt. I use GPS Utilities if I am out camping and hiking.

maporama is pretty good - used it on my i780
http://shop.maporama.com/index.php?cPath=43
but I use tt6 on my kaiser

My personal choice...
I've tried destinator, route 66, sygic...
was a staunch tomtom 6 fan until I got my hands on ;-) a copy of IGO 8 - it really has all the best features from all the other systems in one app. The speed camera support is phenomenal - if you pass the start of an average speed camera, it monitors your average speed and tells you if you go above it until you get past the average speed camera zone... and with static cameras, it only beeps if you're speeding, and keeps beeping until you slow down (Route66 is the only other that does this)...
There is also a Text to Speech engine (TTS) so if you want it to, it will actually speak the road names.
You can just copy the relevant files to your sd card and run it from there without installing it...
Message me if you need more info...

RamROM 1.00 --> 1.22WWE + GPS (thaihugo base)

I used thaihugo ROM as base for this. Thanks to thaihugo for providing this.
I added GoogleMaps, YouTubePlay, VicSoft Clear Temp, Adobe Reader LE for Diamond. Replaced current USBTool with modaco ShiftPack.Liberate. This fixes the Registry setting needed to install cabs. The only registry setting you need to do is changing HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD\CurLang value to your keyboard. You can find those values in plirom 2.00 thread.
I have also placed links to USBTool under Programs\Comm (thaihugo ROM has here) and also under SnapVue Settings (ShiftPack.Liberate does this). Here in SnapVue Settings you will see a link to SoftReset too. This is exactly what Shift.Liberate does currently whenever you liberate using modaco's procedure.
Memory:
Free Storage: 28.58 MB
Free Program: 21.21 MB
Here is the link to download RUU_Signed.nbh
Use CustomRUU.exe that is available in thaihugo and plirom threads.
The next upgrades to this ROM are HTC Voice Recorder, once I figure out how to enable the microphone, .NET 3.5, Screen Capture, and HTC official YouTube Player replacing YouTubePlay. I am also planing to remove original calculator with 1-Calc.
Disclaimer: This is a cooked ROM and is supported by neither Microsoft nor HTC. Neither I nor the ones from who I learned how to cook should be held responsible for any malfunctions or irreversible damage that may cause by flashing this ROM to the device. Use at your own risk. Bottom line, I take no responsibility for the damages that may happen to your device by flashing this ROM.
Thanks
Ram

GPS from Windows Vista
Thanks to everybody i wish to thank every body who help me, and ask you for explain me how can i connect that GPS from Windows Vista.

saiweb said:
I used thaihugo ROM as base for this. Thanks to thaihugo for providing this.
I added GoogleMaps, YouTubePlay, VicSoft Clear Temp, Adobe Reader LE for Diamond. Replaced current USBTool with modaco ShiftPack.Liberate. This fixes the Registry setting needed to install cabs. The only registry setting you need to do is changing HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD\CurLang value to your keyboard. You can find those values in plirom 2.00 thread.
I have also placed links to USBTool under Programs\Comm (thaihugo ROM has here) and also under SnapVue Settings (ShiftPack.Liberate does this). Here in SnapVue Settings you will see a link to SoftReset too. This is exactly what Shift.Liberate does currently whenever you liberate using modaco's procedure.
Memory:
Free Storage: 28.58 MB
Free Program: 21.21 MB
Here is the link to download RUU_Signed.nbh
Use CustomRUU.exe that is available in thaihugo and plirom threads.
The next upgrades to this ROM are HTC Voice Recorder, once I figure out how to enable the microphone, .NET 3.5, Screen Capture, and HTC official YouTube Player replacing YouTubePlay. I am also planing to remove original calculator with 1-Calc.
Disclaimer: This is a cooked ROM and is supported by neither Microsoft nor HTC. Neither I nor the ones from who I learned how to cook should be held responsible for any malfunctions or irreversible damage that may cause by flashing this ROM to the device. Use at your own risk. Bottom line, I take no responsibility for the damages that may happen to your device by flashing this ROM.
Thanks
Ram
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Hi Ram,
The GoogleMaps version is not the update one in your Rom. Could you put the update one (ver. 2.2.0.19) in your next upgrades?
Thanks.
Sunny

hkesunny said:
Hi Ram,
The GoogleMaps version is not the update one in your Rom. Could you put the update one (ver. 2.2.0.19) in your next upgrades?
Thanks.
Sunny
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Sunny
I will do that. I am working CHT version of the same. In that I will put GoogleMaps 2.2.0.19.
Thanks
Ram

martiare said:
Thanks to everybody i wish to thank every body who help me, and ask you for explain me how can i connect that GPS from Windows Vista.
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Hi Martiare
There are two ways
1. you could use external bluetooth receiver that your vista side could use to connect using BlueTooth or USB, easiest and fastest way of doing it.
2. If you wish to use internal GPS of Shift then, you need to install either thaihugo's ROM, pliROM or RamROM, which can be downloaded from this forum (search is your friend). Once you install them, you have multiple options, but the one I use is using Franson's GPSGate Client for Vista and WinMo. I bought this for $49 and I feel good investment. Install GPSGatePPC on WinMo side, and GPSGate on Vista side. Configure GPSGatePPC to work on ActiveSync. Configure GPSGate to receive signals from ActiveSync. And install Maps software such as AutoRoute or Micosoft Streets, Earthmate etc. on Vista side and thats all.
Thanks
Ram

saiweb said:
I used thaihugo ROM as base for this. Thanks to thaihugo for providing this.
I added GoogleMaps, YouTubePlay, VicSoft Clear Temp, Adobe Reader LE for Diamond. Replaced current USBTool with modaco ShiftPack.Liberate. This fixes the Registry setting needed to install cabs. The only registry setting you need to do is changing HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD\CurLang value to your keyboard. You can find those values in plirom 2.00 thread.
I have also placed links to USBTool under Programs\Comm (thaihugo ROM has here) and also under SnapVue Settings (ShiftPack.Liberate does this). Here in SnapVue Settings you will see a link to SoftReset too. This is exactly what Shift.Liberate does currently whenever you liberate using modaco's procedure.
Memory:
Free Storage: 28.58 MB
Free Program: 21.21 MB
Here is the link to download RUU_Signed.nbh
Use CustomRUU.exe that is available in thaihugo and plirom threads.
The next upgrades to this ROM are HTC Voice Recorder, once I figure out how to enable the microphone, .NET 3.5, Screen Capture, and HTC official YouTube Player replacing YouTubePlay. I am also planing to remove original calculator with 1-Calc.
Disclaimer: This is a cooked ROM and is supported by neither Microsoft nor HTC. Neither I nor the ones from who I learned how to cook should be held responsible for any malfunctions or irreversible damage that may cause by flashing this ROM to the device. Use at your own risk. Bottom line, I take no responsibility for the damages that may happen to your device by flashing this ROM.
Thanks
Ram
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First of all let me thank you and all other "cookers" for your continuous effort. I've been following the birth and the growth of quite a high number of ROM's, and I still can't understand if it's a good or a bad thing... I mean: surely everyone that flashes a newly cooked ROM acts as a beta-tester for the "chef" and for all other users that don't dare or simply can't flash a new ROM each week. Moreover each new ROM, even if adds some (in)compatibility problem, solves many others (just think about the possibility to use GPS). And this is the good part of the situation.
On the other hand I feel a bit confused. Each new ROM has many good things, but lacks in others, IMO. I know it's a matter of personal taste, but for instance I would really like that PliROM's home could be the standard for each other ROM. And that's just one of the things that I (and each one of us) could point up.
May I suggest to write down a list of the components and let a survey start? If 90 people over 100 should prefer PliROM's interface instead of original Shift one (again: it's just an example), why to continue developping ROMs with other interfaces?
I say this because I'm absolutely unable to cook anything, and I think that many of us can't.
Of course I'll go on flashing new (stable) ROMs, trying to beta-test , at least for a few weeks... than I'll have to go back to work and I wouldn't run the risk anymore to loose data or hardreset

Pure Snapvue
Hi Sai ;
Even though the user interface is really limited , i -personally- prefer using snapvue ...
So ... is there a way for you to
-either let me know how to disable the top bar with the start menu on your liberated rom
or
-cook a rom only cab-install and gps enabled , so that i can go on my own way...
My very best regards
Safak

saiweb said:
Sunny
I will do that. I am working CHT version of the same. In that I will put GoogleMaps 2.2.0.19.
Thanks
Ram
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Hi Ram,
Thanks a lot! If you can cook the 2nd CHT version with the updated GoogleMaps will be perfect! One more request, can you use pli6128's plirom v2.00 WWE 1.22.405.0 96dpi to cook the CHT 2nd version? Because I tried and feel it's user friendly and the key buttons for both contacts and programscan be address. Also, I found it stable too.
Thanks.
Sunny

saiweb said:
Hi Martiare
There are two ways
1. you could use external bluetooth receiver that your vista side could use to connect using BlueTooth or USB, easiest and fastest way of doing it.
2. If you wish to use internal GPS of Shift then, you need to install either thaihugo's ROM, pliROM or RamROM, which can be downloaded from this forum (search is your friend). Once you install them, you have multiple options, but the one I use is using Franson's GPSGate Client for Vista and WinMo. I bought this for $49 and I feel good investment. Install GPSGatePPC on WinMo side, and GPSGate on Vista side. Configure GPSGatePPC to work on ActiveSync. Configure GPSGate to receive signals from ActiveSync. And install Maps software such as AutoRoute or Micosoft Streets, Earthmate etc. on Vista side and thats all.
Thanks
Ram
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Ram / Martiare,
Maybe you can use this one - "Track Me"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340667
Because it's FREE! I installed it at the WinMo side and at the Vista side I can use Google Earth see my track realtime!
Sunny

hkesunny said:
Ram / Martiare,
Maybe you can use this one - "Track Me"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340667
Because it's FREE! I installed it at the WinMo side and at the Vista side I can use Google Earth see my track realtime!
Sunny
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Hi Sunny
Cool.
Thanks
Ram

Hileotech said:
First of all let me thank you and all other "cookers" for your continuous effort. I've been following the birth and the growth of quite a high number of ROM's, and I still can't understand if it's a good or a bad thing... I mean: surely everyone that flashes a newly cooked ROM acts as a beta-tester for the "chef" and for all other users that don't dare or simply can't flash a new ROM each week. Moreover each new ROM, even if adds some (in)compatibility problem, solves many others (just think about the possibility to use GPS). And this is the good part of the situation.
On the other hand I feel a bit confused. Each new ROM has many good things, but lacks in others, IMO. I know it's a matter of personal taste, but for instance I would really like that PliROM's home could be the standard for each other ROM. And that's just one of the things that I (and each one of us) could point up.
May I suggest to write down a list of the components and let a survey start? If 90 people over 100 should prefer PliROM's interface instead of original Shift one (again: it's just an example), why to continue developping ROMs with other interfaces?
I say this because I'm absolutely unable to cook anything, and I think that many of us can't.
Of course I'll go on flashing new (stable) ROMs, trying to beta-test , at least for a few weeks... than I'll have to go back to work and I wouldn't run the risk anymore to loose data or hardreset
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Hi
Sure I will use pliROM as base for the new version, or may be I will have an option that would install HTC Home like pliROM does or SnapVue like thaihugo does. I think I would go with this optional one.
Thanks
Ram

For free GPS Tracking in Google Earth, and Google Maps mobile, checkout http://www.reperion.com and choose basic, free download.
You don't need to boot vista to see your realtime tracks, all you have to do is import your Reperion KML network link to Google Mobile Maps !
It will give you much much more than just tracking... check it out
http://www.reperion.com/newclient for the software
http://geocool.reperion.com/web to JOIN for an account.

Thanks Ram and cookers!
Installed and working. Just one query about the GPS side though.....
I'm using a UK version of the shift for starters that is only a few months old. I've fllashed the Rom as above and also installed the GPSGate software on both sides. That all seems to be working fine and the WinMob side has found the GPS Module on COM4 and is receiving data but no location. After having read the other threads I appreciate you have to stand in the middle of a field for i to pick up the satellites. Unfortunately I have tried this and it still isnt picking them up. Is it possible that HTC has now stopped installing the GPS Antennas in recent Shifts (no, I haven't opened it up to look)?
Any other ideas?

saiweb said:
Hi
Sure I will use pliROM as base for the new version, or may be I will have an option that would install HTC Home like pliROM does or SnapVue like thaihugo does. I think I would go with this optional one.
Thanks
Ram
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This sound great to me!!! Thanks a lot

meanbiker said:
Thanks Ram and cookers!
Installed and working. Just one query about the GPS side though.....
I'm using a UK version of the shift for starters that is only a few months old. I've fllashed the Rom as above and also installed the GPSGate software on both sides. That all seems to be working fine and the WinMob side has found the GPS Module on COM4 and is receiving data but no location. After having read the other threads I appreciate you have to stand in the middle of a field for i to pick up the satellites. Unfortunately I have tried this and it still isnt picking them up. Is it possible that HTC has now stopped installing the GPS Antennas in recent Shifts (no, I haven't opened it up to look)?
Any other ideas?
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Honestly I don't know if they might have removed it. But to be sure, look if you have any data comming in. Do you have any sattelites inview when using HTC GPS util? Look at the sattelite tab.

meanbiker said:
Thanks Ram and cookers!
Installed and working. Just one query about the GPS side though.....
I'm using a UK version of the shift for starters that is only a few months old. I've fllashed the Rom as above and also installed the GPSGate software on both sides. That all seems to be working fine and the WinMob side has found the GPS Module on COM4 and is receiving data but no location. After having read the other threads I appreciate you have to stand in the middle of a field for i to pick up the satellites. Unfortunately I have tried this and it still isnt picking them up. Is it possible that HTC has now stopped installing the GPS Antennas in recent Shifts (no, I haven't opened it up to look)?
Any other ideas?
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in HCTC GPS Tool (Settings tab) press Open Button, in the lower part you will see some scrolled text, when you run GPS software for the first time you have to wait for 15-30 minute to recieve the signals, then go to Satellite tab the no. of satellite used must be 3 or more to get your location, thise what I did, hope it is the correct way.

thaihugo said:
Honestly I don't know if they might have removed it. But to be sure, look if you have any data comming in. Do you have any sattelites inview when using HTC GPS util? Look at the sattelite tab.
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I agree with you completely. I don't think they would have removed it. It may be some issues with the position or something related to GPSGate configuration. I also come into issues where it would take good 15 to 20 minuts to lock my Shift for the first time especially with overcast skies, evenings and inside the building. I may be wrong too, HTC might have removed the GPS altogether in the newer systems, but that would be a drastic step for HTC. If they do so, I would suggest buying RAON Everun and tether it with a Kaiser or Hermes would be cheaper. You would have a GPS receiver on your WinMo, and have bluetooth, SD, Wifi handy and you could connect your Everun to that and it fits in the pocket, eventhough the screen is nearly 5" as opposed to 7". But that is cheaper alternative and runs on more manageable XP. And installing GPSGate on WinMo and XP gives me to have the GPS on bigger screen.
Thanks
Ram

Got the GPS Tool running again. It's hovering on Sat 32 and 14 with the odd scan of no. 1 on its own. Going to leave it on the windowledge overnight as the field isn't really an option!
I'm used to using a Garmin Zumo on the motorbike that takes seconds to find the sats and TomTom on my Hermes in the car and also it's own in-built Toyota Effort. None takes this long to find satellites.
But it is fun, isn't it!!!

meanbiker said:
Got the GPS Tool running again. It's hovering on Sat 32 and 14 with the odd scan of no. 1 on its own. Going to leave it on the windowledge overnight as the field isn't really an option!
I'm used to using a Garmin Zumo on the motorbike that takes seconds to find the sats and TomTom on my Hermes in the car and also it's own in-built Toyota Effort. None takes this long to find satellites.
But it is fun, isn't it!!!
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Yep, it is kind of slow, once you get the location fixed, and it uses 2 satellites, the things move pretty fast. I have quite a good number of GPS devices, and all of them are pretty fast when compared to this.
Thanks
Ram

So the GPS Tool locked up the WinMob side , it mustn't have liked being left on all night! Pulled the battery and reset. Hey Presto the sky is full of satellites tonight and all is working fine!!!! It takes ages to take its initial reading of where everything is, has a real good think about it and then decides to work.
Now looking forward to any future incarnations.
Many thanks to all

Need a Good navigation Program other them tomtom7

Okay I did a search and I have read all the tomtom vs Igo8 topics I am looking for a REAL version not a warez and with Maps that are supported and updated I can't even get maps for my tomtom7 PDA anymore (Unless I am just looking in the wrong spot, I have tomtom home Installed it says no maps are available)
It would be nice if I could try it out for a few days to make sure I like it before plopping down 100+ bucks When I do a google search for I-go 8 I get pages and pages of torrents and cracks and warezs but no site to buy a real version
Any suggestions (with links please)
I have the full streets and trips 2009 you used to be able to export maps from that to a pocket edition for pda I can't even find that option anymore (maybe I am just having a bad day)
US MAPS or Oregon

http://www.navngo.com/pages/global/eng/where_to_buy
first site that popped up when i put igo8 in google. i linked the where to buy section
i love igo8 and cant think of using any of the other gps programs

i have been using igo8 for a while now.
as much as i love tomtom, i prefer igo8 with TTS

I'd recommend Garmin Mobile XT. I ran TomTom 6, then TomTom 7 on my Kaiser. Wasn't that happy with it. I've looked over iGo a few times, I just didn't like that it wouldn't let me navigate to a contact. Too much trouble. Plus, Garmin lets me get important information like gas prices, etc., and I can do google searches through it.
That's just my opinion though..
-John

iGo;
or iGuigance

Who-m3 said:
I've looked over iGo a few times, I just didn't like that it wouldn't let me navigate to a contact. Too much trouble.
That's just my opinion though..
-John
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I navigate my contacts with no problems...only prerequisite for an address is no apartment/suite number in the contact's address. You can also go into 'Manage/Geocaching errors" inside igo8 to check addresses that cannot be found'.

I like some features of iGo8 (TTS and how much you can customize it mainly), but I find myself going back to Garmin Mobile XT all the time.
1) Garmin's routes seem to be better for me.
2) If you have data you can get fuel prices (might be a day or 2 old, but is handy while traveling).
3) You don't have to worry about your POIs being out of date since you can use Google Local Search (if you have data)...its gotten me out of a few binds before.
If you don't have data, then I would say iGo, but if you have data, then the Garmin Online features makes it over the top for me and well worth the money.

Why to pay ? Everything can be found for free
TomTom in not good choise - interface/maps etc. isn't very good. Don't have same feeling when use garmin or igo8. Garmin is best, maps are awesome. I know that garmin interface is not so briliant, but it do the job.
Also and igo8 is good, especially interface & tmc service, but maps are awful. Countries like macedonia and balcan are not covered well.

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Also and igo8 is good, especially interface & tmc service, but maps are awful. Countries like macedonia and balcan are not covered well.
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Serbian map (last update) is pretty good now, though still noticeably worse than Garmin. TomTom sucks big time.

i'm using tomtom7 with no problems. have tried igo8 but seems too slow for me. have used garmin before on my prophet and it was good.
overall, i prefer garmin, since it can use non garmin original maps - you can even make your own customised maps or just search for them on the net. i used the malsing maps when i went back to malaysia for a visit. very handy

try Copilot..love it ..had it for last 4 yrs since the first..Vario..copilot 7 is even better

inav iguidance 2009
ive used tomtom, garmin, and igo8 before. non of them beat iguidance. iguidance will announce the name of the street for you. example, "turn left on Wall St." instead of "turn left ahead".

garmin xt is great. especially if you are looking for accuracy

go to pocketnow.com and check out urban horizon, they have a 14 day free trial and it looks pretty cool you can either use it with data only and not store maps. or you can decide to download maps to device by state or region. im about to test it out in a bit when i get the newyork maps downloaded

i love my sprint telenav, especially the new VGA one for the TP... =) graphics are 10x better and it supports all my needs "gas prices, hotels, routes, point by point directions, ect"... i have the everything plan so its included for free...

I use Sygic McGuider in my Toshiba(WM Standart). Perfect,multiplatform solution from Slovak developers,very nice voices,nice graphics,perfect navigation... I don't know,how are the maps in US,but in EU is it very good.

best GPS for toch pro

Dear All i just need to know what the best program GPS (tomtom.igo,germen...etc)
for wm 6.5 my device toch pro
thankx for answer

until know 36 person just look , any one have answer!!!!!!!

Best GPS
I use Garmin and seems fine, I don`t know tom tom, igo or any other

juanantoniofer said:
I use Garmin and seems fine, I don`t know tom tom, igo or any other
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finaly some one answer me , i was use IGO but was hard to me so i was look someone expirt can recomanded us

Love Garmin XT - pretty close on accuracy to my standalone. Very quick it pretty much finds everything. Has ability to direct call found places. The only issue with most phone GPS programs is they suck the battery dry pretty quickly.

I have TomTom 7.917.9186_vga_black ver, Garmin, IGO all in my sd.
Frequently use TomTom, simply b-coz of its custamizability ( voice, map colour, car, poi etc.)
BUT all three works well in my TP.
You better ask " best gps navigation Program"
There are more good gps programs other than navigation.

Used them all....
I've personally used them all, and I find TomTom to be the fastest and most reliable. It just eats away at your battery.
Maybe its just me ;-)

igo is great

hi all
i think no one know what the best program navigator can use
i was use IGO before and i will try to use TOMTOM
i will post feedback to who concern

i use garmin xt and igo8 ... but tomtom is good too. u have to try and see what fits u the best

tomtom or ndrive.
Both work for me.

If cost is no concern, I stand by TomTom being the best... But only if you pay for the monthly subscription on top of the software cost.. The live traffic with rerouting you... gas prices around where you are is very convient too (and yes, I know that Bing and otehrs do this too), newer version do that cool 3D buildign thing that igo does (but TomTom doesnt; crash every 5 min)... TomTom has all the cool voices to direct you (I personally love C3PO "You have reached your destination master" in the english accent ) It also has this cool feature that if you buddy has tomtom as well, and say you are at a concert to fair or some other large outdoor thing.. you can both turn it on and in teh "buddy" area you can both update your live position to eachother so you can meet up... I also find this handy when traveling to things with my family.. we each have tomtom on our phones. You can controll what POI's are displayed, and even download updated POI packs for free right though the TomTom software as long as your phone has an internet connection... You can get car Icons ro repalce the "you are here" arrow thing on the map... you can even take a picture of your own car and just edit the background out (but if you look online.. people have already taken pics of many many cars, I am sure you can find your right make/color . the driving map is a nice 3D style, which I find a lot easier to navigate than the Google maps or Bing... There is a Daytime/Nighttime button in the menu that changes all the colors on the screen to bright daytime or dark night time colors, right out of the box... you can custome either as well...
Sorry to ramble, but you get the point... While TomTom doesn't do much that you can't find in another program, it does all the best things in just 1 prgram instead of having to decide which of 2 or 3 other ones to use because you have to travel across the state, find some address you never been to before in a strange city.... You get hungry along the way for mexican food, on the way back you need to get gas and want to know what is the cheapest price that is along your route that you are traveling... TomTom just works, and is nice.

garmin xt FTW !!!

IGo is the best

i am from the tomtom gang

Garmin, chinga su madre!

GPS Software for Fuze
I've used Garmin XT since it was v4. Frankly, on my Fuze the 3d view lags (the 2d view does not) such that I typically pass a turn 10-20 seconds before it shows my car at the turn's location on the screen. However, the voice prompts are dead on.
Recently, I purchased CoPilot Live v8. It's a good bit less expensive and there is no lag that I can discover. It is not as feature rich as Garmin XT -- Garmin offers free live traffic updates; CoPilot does not. But CoPilot has a Live Search like Garmin's Google Search. And it finds fuel stops just as well.
I must say that so far I prefer CoPilot's UI. Finding a location is simpler by a few keystrokes. And it shows upcoming POIs clearly enough -- and with icons that are big enough -- that you can click on the screen and get more details in a popup.
I'm not sure that CoPilot's maps are any better -- or worse -- than Garmins' yet. I've read that CoPilot's maps are not as accurate, but I have yet to experience it personally. I'll know more after a few upcoming trips.
Even so, I'm not taking Garmin off my Fuze just yet.

bedro66 said:
Dear All i just need to know what the best program GPS (tomtom.igo,germen...etc)
for wm 6.5 my device toch pro
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The choice will very much depend on the quality of maps, available for your area. You would have little use for a good navigation software if the map it uses is very basic.

I have used them all. I really liked IGO but the one i find most reliable is Tom Tom. Good luck

I use a free app called Waze.