since the tilt is 3g, if i unlock it and use it on Tmobile does it still pick up tmobiles 3g or is it different? thanks alot
It won't grab T-Mo's 3G. The Tilt can find "standard" 3G, in the 1900 band, but T-Mo's runs on the 1700 band. There's a hardware difference as well dealing with the radio.
Basically, you'd be stuck on EDGE, like the rest of us Tilt users are.
ya i thought they were different thanks alot for the fast reply
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Has anyone been able to connect to Tmobile's USA 3G network in Dallas TX? Anywhere else in the US? Any settings need to be changed?
Search is good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390575
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417121
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390449
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403539
Search???? But it is some much better for the community to ask the question before searching.
Please close thread.
Before you start flaming, I suggest you read the question. Since you can search, I assume you can read...
The original question was about this service in Dallas TX, which according to multiple sources, the service was just launched on August 27.
Most posts available on Tmobile's 3G state the service is on the 1700 MHz (which the kaiser is not capable). However there are a few people that have stated it might also be in the 2100MHz band.
It is also possible that the Kaise is capable to hook to the 1700MHz band but not enabled by the radio rom. Take the Diamond for example, it was not supposed to support the 850MHz band...
Since Dallas service just started, it is possible 2100MHz is available.
Has anyone been able to prove Tmobile's 3G service is up an running IN DALLAS?
I stand corrected, kind sir. I jumped to a conclusion and was ignorant of the facts related to your specific part of the world. I am sorry.
Did you call TMobile customer service and ask the question? So none of the search results gave you any help. I guess wait and see if you get a reply. Good luck.
3g with tilt ?
smh
jayizzbakk said:
3g with tilt ?
smh
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I just got 3G here in little old York, Pa. I guess I don't understand your question?
I think what he wants to know if 3g data will work with an at&T branded tilt on tmobile U.S. and if so I would like to know how it compares to the edge network they were using
i think T-Mobile uses 1700/2100 and one band is for uplink and the other is for downlink.
unlike AT&T or Rogers who can use 850 and 1900 independantly for uplink or downlink.
first of all, tmobile sim cards are not 3G compatbile, therefore even the correct settings probably wont pick up any 3G signal...keep in mind that tmobile never updated simcards since its voicestream transition...i remember when AT&T went 3G, they had to issue 3G enabled sim cards....
And my Tilt has a 3G SIM but it's an ATT SIM.
you cant get on tmobiles network with an att sim
Hi everyone--
I have an unmodded, "unlocked" at&t tilt that has a t-mobile gsm sim chip in it. I'm still running the WM6 that came in it, and can't seem to get access to the 3G speeds I know this thing is capable of. I've tried numerous software apps to "force" the phone to go 3G, to no avail. T-Mobile customer "support"--HAA! tells me I need a t-mobile phone to be able to take advantage of the 3G speeds. Needles to say, I feel this is a bunch of malarkey. T-Mobile put out this phone, did they not, and called it the "MDA Vario III"? Is there a rom for the mda that I could flash this thing with so I could get the 3G speeds? Or another rom perhaps? Any suggestions would be most appreciated. Thanks!
tripp
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trippster said:
Hi everyone--
I have an unmodded, "unlocked" at&t tilt that has a t-mobile gsm sim chip in it. I'm still running the WM6 that came in it, and can't seem to get access to the 3G speeds I know this thing is capable of. I've tried numerous software apps to "force" the phone to go 3G, to no avail. T-Mobile customer "support"--HAA! tells me I need a t-mobile phone to be able to take advantage of the 3G speeds. Needles to say, I feel this is a bunch of malarkey. T-Mobile put out this phone, did they not, and called it the "MDA Vario III"? Is there a rom for the mda that I could flash this thing with so I could get the 3G speeds? Or another rom perhaps? Any suggestions would be most appreciated. Thanks!
tripp
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Unfortunately, the malarkey is the truth! Because T-Mobile runs its 3G network on a different band than the Tilt is capable of! Sorry, this also effects me as I am a T-Mobile customer using a Tilt as well! My advice is to use Opera mini 4.2 for your internet browsing it is very fast on the Edge network!
The T-Mobile you refer to is European
It does not run on the same 3G as the US T-Mobile. The US T-Mobile uses 1700 Mhz and 2100 Mhz, I believe. The Tilt does not use the 1700 Mhz band. There was a rumor going around that there would be a new version of the Kaiser (KAIS140) that would use the US T-Mobile 3G bands but it was never released for sale. I don't think it will since it is pretty much at the end of the life cycle of the phone. They (HTC) have moved on to newer models with more features. If you would like to use the US 3G and live in an area with 3G, The T-Mobile G1 (HTC Dream) uses T-Mo 3G and has its own section on this forum.
bleh. newer models should still freaking tilt. that is the coolest thing about this phone. and it's pretty solid construction. my friend has had his over a year and its still going strong.
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Unfortunately, the malarkey is the truth! Because T-Mobile runs its 3G network on a different band than the Tilt is capable of! Sorry, this also effects me as I am a T-Mobile customer using a Tilt as well! My advice is to use Opera mini 4.2 for your internet browsing it is very fast on the Edge network!
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I thought the Tilt accessed 3G through it's tri band frequencies 850/1900/2100Mhz so that it could connect to most 3G networks worldwide, making it a world business tool for users?
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I thought the Tilt accessed 3G through it's tri band frequencies 850/1900/2100Mhz so that it could connect to most 3G networks worldwide, making it a world business tool for users?
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True but T-Mobile uses the 1700 for upload and 2100 for download. ATT uses 1900 for both.
Trying to figure this out, Is the hardware basically the same. I read alot about UMTS and WCDMA, I am familiar with GSM vs CDMA, but I am not sure if this could work or not.
Basically I am wondering if a Google G1 on AT&T can run at 3G speeds. No need to tell you all the phone specs, I am sure your all aware.
AT&T
GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz, UMTS 850/1900/2100MHz
TMOBILE
GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz, HSPDA/WCDMA:1700/2100 MHz
Anyways from my HTC phones with AT&T I usually use 1900&2100 MHz
Is it possible to get this thing running on AT&T 2100, I figure if I was always roaming it would have to barrow some part of the TMO network, or does roaming only default to GSM 2G.
Another thing I think of is maybe updating my simcard with cingular so I can get a bigger network list or am I just dreaming about the whole Idea. It really seems like a software problem. Does that radio chip really make that much of a difference.
Again, is this not just a radio-build/sim config???
Thanks for any input....
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Trying to figure this out, Is the hardware basically the same. I read alot about UMTS and WCDMA, I am familiar with GSM vs CDMA, but I am not sure if this could work or not.
Basically I am wondering if a Google G1 on AT&T can run at 3G speeds. No need to tell you all the phone specs, I am sure your all aware.
AT&T
GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz, UMTS 850/1900/2100MHz
TMOBILE
GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz, HSPDA/WCDMA:1700/2100 MHz
Anyways from my HTC phones with AT&T I usually use 1900&2100 MHz
Is it possible to get this thing running on AT&T 2100, I figure if I was always roaming it would have to barrow some part of the TMO network, or does roaming only default to GSM 2G.
Another thing I think of is maybe updating my simcard with cingular so I can get a bigger network list or am I just dreaming about the whole Idea. It really seems like a software problem. Does that radio chip really make that much of a difference.
Again, is this not just a radio-build/sim config???
Thanks for any input....
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It is not possible because the G1's HARDWARE does not support AT&T 3G. Only T-Mobile.
Im pretty sure you could use the rodgers g1 though for 3g on att
Yes the Rogers G1 has the same frequency as AT&T
im wondering. is there any way i can get 3g working on my unlocked atat tilt 2. im using cincinnati bell wireless now but im thinking bout switching phones because i cant use 3g thx.
Snooping around the net, I've found that Bell Wireless in Cincinatti uses 1700/2100 MHz bands for 3G. Both bands are needed for 3G (one is upload, one is download), similar to T-Mob.
The At&T Tilt2 isn't compatible with the 1700 MHz band. Its a hardware issue, so no software or tweaks are going to get you 3G. If you get an unlocked T-Mob branded version of the Touch Pro 2, it should work on your network's 3G.
This should be in the General section, not ROM Development.
Hi everyone i tried searching but didn't come up with anything. I'm considering purchasing an unlocked nexus one on amazon and I'm not sure if its a tmobile or att version I have tmobile as my provider if i were to get an att version would i still get 3g access? I know if it was the opposite i there would be no access for 3g on att.
Thanks
I believe t-mobile's 3g is 2100mhz, which means the atnt one should work on the network.
I'd get a second opinion though, I'm more knowledgeable on Australian networks than US ones.
Ok thank you for the input, if anyone could confirm this that would b great.
The devices are completely independent of one another in regards to 3G. Cross network compatability only extends to Edge services.
Someone jump in and correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that T-Mobile 3G requires both the 1900 and 2100 frequencies to work (up & down link).
Rod3 is correct the at&t version will not work on t-mo and the t-mo version will not work on at&t, in respect to the 3G that is you will still get edge either way.
Although as far as the both 1900MHz and 2100MHz I'm not sure about that but it's possible, anyone care to add some info.
EDIT: Just Googled it and it's 1900MHz for 2G and 1700MHz/2100MHz for 3G encase anyone is interested.
Dude, thanks for the correction. I knew there were 2 frequencies for 3G and I just picked one off the top of my head. Now that I think about it, yeah 850 and 1900 were for 2G.