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Imate PDA2K rom update, Orange Partner Israel

I have ordered a new Imate PDA2K from Australia through Ebay, haven't got it yet so I do not have all the data incl. all rom versions it is running under, however, Orange Partner, my Cell Phone provider has released a new Rom version on it's website, Orange_Israel_V1.72.187_Dated-3-2-2005.exe designated for the IMATE XDA II, (the same but without the sliding keyboard) which is the device they sell here in Israel, and which contains Hebrew language.
My question is, would it work on my new PDA2K?, what do I have to do in order to be able to reinstall the original rom in case the new one does not work, I have read the "Blue Angel for beginners" at wiki.xda-developers.com, however it is rather complicated, well at least for a new user.
Thank you.

I would not install the ROM for the XDA II, I really don't think the only change is the sliding keyboard. It's a different device and comes with dfferent hardware and I have a feeling that you are going to screw up your phone, especially since u are getting the phone from australia - what would u do if u screw it totally? U are stuck with a dead duck.
If I were U - I would not take the risk.
This is just my opinion.

Thank you for sharing your opinion, I thought so to, anyway there is a rom update at Club Imate, I think I will use that one.
From what I have read in the [email protected] forum, the update I was talking about in my question is the exRom, it appeares so in many devices in some posts.
Thanks again!

windows mobile 6.0 ROM

http://bbs.pdafans.com/viewthread.php?tid=313145&extra=page=1&page=1
[ignore me]
V

Can you interpret the most important parts for us? (If there are any)

What I gather from my spotty mandarin, these guys managed to get their hands on an internal version of WM6 and have flashed it onto their devices.
Will read more and find out.

Managed to snag some photos by signing up at their forums...
Apparently its a chinese version of WM6 from Dopod...
This dude twinsdove mentions that WM6's speed is way better than WM5's...

Google is your best friend and also your enemy. Just use it the right way and everything is priceless...
http://translate.google.com/transla...&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=/language_tools

i want the wm6

i'll try to bulid a wm6 for D700.
just Believe in me

why cant we just get the original one and install y would u have to build it?

sorry.
i'll try made a rom can be used for Blueangel.
i can't build a rom for it by myself.this's microsoft's work.

i belive in you

getmad said:
Google is your best friend and also your enemy. Just use it the right way and everything is priceless...
http://translate.google.com/transla...&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=/language_tools
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It makes them sound really communistic. Haha.
Still, having a knowledge of mandarin as a second language helps a lot.

It'd be really nice to see WM6 on our BA's!!
Will we be seeing a release of the base OS so people will be able to create their own froms from this? (Sorry, but google is playing up and I don't have enough time to use babelfish and read everything in that thread).
Best of luck Winyong!

Nice to see more enthusiasts, but it is almost impossible to make crossbow works fine on blueangel (remember Motorola MPX200 and WM5) it will be something like this, but (there is always but) you will all have problems with porting crossbow core

Crossbow download, Download Link provide
The original thread does not exist anymore, I have no idea it was deleted by the poster or the Admin. of the site. Here is the new Link. You can download
18 rar files from it.
http://bbs.pdafans.com/thread-313480-1-3.html
P.S. The Rom is for Wizard, Not BA.

@lukecheng - I can't seem to find those 18 rars. Could you upload them to the FTP?

[jibbering meaninglessly]
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Apologies Vijay, I wasn't really thinking there. Good catch.

xplode said:
Nice to see more enthusiasts, but it is almost impossible to make crossbow works fine on blueangel (remember Motorola MPX200 and WM5) it will be something like this, but (there is always but) you will all have problems with porting crossbow core
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doesn't hurt to have a go

Midget_1990 said:
doesn't hurt to have a go
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Yes bra XDA-devs always finds a way, evolution is upon us! haha sorry yoz

http://msmobiles.com/news.php/5951.html
According to the *highly* ;-) reliable news source that is msmobiles.com, a universal rom has been leaked.
Looks like their highly patronising style of journalism strikes again, as the last time I checked came under the following category, but searching revealed nothing (EDIT until I went to Universal Upgrading forum) not that I have a Universal but was intrigued nonetheless.
"(but any Internet user who knows how to use search engines can find it easily)" - msmobiles
Am I right in thinking that if Crossbow ROMS turn up for other devices like Universal, then a port to BlueAngel is possible?

How do cooked roms differ?

Ho,
I am reading and getting more intrigued re flashing my TyTnII with a suitable ROM, after my holidy in July of couse as I really need it for that.
But can someone explain how a cooked ROM is able to out perform a stock one?
I dont get it? Take GPS for example. I read that it is the radio driver tha deals with this?
So how come a huge organisation like HTC puts a radio on the device and then someone off their own back is able to do something with the driver to make it more effiecient?
Or am I totally discombobulated and talking gaa gaa?

pachjo said:
Ho,
I am reading and getting more intrigued re flashing my TyTnII with a suitable ROM, after my holidy in July of couse as I really need it for that.
But can someone explain how a cooked ROM is able to out perform a stock one?
I dont get it? Take GPS for example. I read that it is the radio driver tha deals with this?
So how come a huge organisation like HTC puts a radio on the device and then someone off their own back is able to do something with the driver to make it more effiecient?
Or am I totally discombobulated and talking gaa gaa?
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Well for one the software on Cooked ROMs is different. All the "Bloatware" is removed and some useful applications are cooked in.
As for radios there are many variaties (some ported from other devices) that perform better on different networks and different locations.
The radios arn't made by chefs, there just taken from different ROM's. I.e. some from the newest ATT Tilt, some from the Vodafone 6.1 ROM etc. etc.
Ta
Dave

HTC is a company with primary objective: making money
if you were HTC's owner, and assuming you want more and more money, would you release a product that is so perfect that nobody will never consider buying your next updated newer products? on the other hand, to attract customers to your current product you need to have amazing specifications listed in your marketing brochures (i.e. hardware features) which unfortunately can ONLY work with better "ingridients" of ROM (did somebody mention cooked ROMs ?)
ps: btw how old are you?

KaiserVideoDriver said:
HTC is a company with primary objective: making money
if you were HTC's owner, and assuming you want more and more money, would you release a product that is so perfect that nobody will never consider buying your next updated newer products? on the other hand, to attract customers to your current product you need to have amazing specifications listed in your marketing brochures (i.e. hardware features) which unfortunately can ONLY work with better "ingridients" of ROM (did somebody mention cooked ROMs ?)
ps: btw how old are you?
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Further to this, HTC "forgot" the drivers for the hardware graphics acceleration for the MSM chipset. There not all that good.
Dave (BTW if you want my age you'll have to find it )

couple things you can do. You can flash a radio and you can flash a cooked rom. Different radios can give you different reception, and even faster GPS lock. You will have to experiment on which one works best, as long as the radio is compatible with the rom. A cooked rom has a lot of programs stripped out from OEM which makes the rom a lot faster than the OEM.

Excellent chaps, I am more inclined to have a go!
Mmm how old am I?
Well let's see beleive it or not I am a programmer for a large organisation but know jack about all this stuff in the same way I know jack about web creation or networks. But I do know about programming database applications and in my time have written a few nice graphics programs.
Now here's the thing....can you guess my age?
Have worked here for 25 years and worked my way up the ranks, been married for 22 years and have a 21 year old son.......
BTW why do you want to know how old I am?

pachjo said:
Ho,
I am reading and getting more intrigued re flashing my TyTnII with a suitable ROM, after my holidy in July of couse as I really need it for that.
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How do cooked roms differ?
Well, to be honest, it's more about "usability / feel / look " than any other thing.
Original/Official roms are generally having an appalling feel and look. For example, take my network provider (Orange in UK). I had read a lot about TyTN_II (aka Tilt/Kaiser...etc.) before getting my own from Orange. The moment I unpacked the device and turned it on , I was completely disappointed. Orange engineers spend a lot of time "customizing" (i.e. ruining) the feel and look of the device so that it looks more Orange-ish.
Their fossil tech people bag their regular salary every month and are light years behind the current time. They have no desire/motivation to be innovative (that's why they do not realse a software update even every two years).
I received my SPVM3100 (aka TyTN) from Orange almost 3 years ago. Two and a half years later, when I received TyTN_II , I was shocked to see that they had loaded exactly the same bloatware and disgusting theme they had used on older HTC devices years ago.
xda rom developers are up-to-date; they are brilliant individuals who develop software out of their personal passion and love of technology. They know what is exactly going on in PDA community at this very moment. They listen to users' experiences in real life every day and they strive to make things look better, more practical and faster.
With an original/official rom you're stuck with what the HTC (or Orange, AT&T, Vodafone ...) developers put in your device ages ago. With cooked roms (depending on your actual use of the device) you have a variety of options to choose from.
And most important of all, you'll join the forum, get addicted to it, learn loads of new tweaks and work-arounds, and will see surprising new customized software almost every week.
Believe me, stay tuned in here and soon you'll notice that not only you're holding a completely different device in your hand, but also YOU will be a completely new user of the device ; a user more in command of the HTC you're carrying around
Welcome

Kooooooooooooool
I bought my TyTnII for £434 unlocked.
It has an Ornage sim card plus all the stuff I have loaed myself:
SBP Pocket Plus, Weather, Time etc and loads of German learning programs, speech and the like.
When I first came to this site I was put off as I did not fully grasp what it was all about, but that's me all over....should read the manual first
I really like the idea of flashing and getting rid of the bloatware as you call it and see how my device works afterwards.
But as I paid £434 for it if I brick it my wife will use said brick to remove my ability to father any heirs!!!!!
Yoinks!

pachjo said:
Kooooooooooooool
I bought my TyTnII for £434 unlocked.
It has an Ornage sim card plus all the stuff I have loaed myself:
SBP Pocket Plus, Weather, Time etc and loads of German learning programs, speech and the like.
When I first came to this site I was put off as I did not fully grasp what it was all about, but that's me all over....should read the manual first
I really like the idea of flashing and getting rid of the bloatware as you call it and see how my device works afterwards.
But as I paid £434 for it if I brick it my wife will use said brick to remove my ability to father any heirs!!!!!
Yoinks!
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As I have said to many new users, bricking only happens if you fail to read and follow instructions. Just read and take you time.
Ta
Dave

Well, if you do have an issue, "Brick", there are a few people around that can revive you. If ever in need search around, there's a guy that has revived a plethora of dead kaisers, but I can't remember his name at the moment.
Anyway, as this really is not development related, I'm gonna move it to the general section.
Welcome to XDA.

GSLEON3 said:
If ever in need search around, there's a guy that has revived a plethora of dead kaisers, but I can't remember his name at the moment.
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I think I know that guy aswell
Dave

What's up with the ROMS???

I don't know if ya'll noticed.
But the hard SPL for the blackstone had been released.
BANG + 20 roms released aswell.
Why isn't this happening for the Xperia?
We only have 2 good ROM builders....
I'm downloading the Xperia Citchen of Itje,
and going to try to get my old Rom coocking skills back.
I would love the see many roms for the Xperia.
Cmon, who wouldn't ???
Could some of the Rom coockers make a tutorial for the public.
So more ppl get involved into Rom coocking!!!!
Thx.

Xperia cooks
well go buy them a phone....im sure they will cook you one then

liamhere said:
well go buy them a phone....im sure they will cook you one then
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HAHAHA duh. But now back on topic

A tutorial would be a help, i've downloaed kovsky package, but as its my first time playing with a windows mobile, I have a lot to learn

I agree with you, the xperia has really very few support from cookers here.
i noticed that weeks ago, there are only one or two rooms released for x1 thought the hard spl was released long time ago.
I hope we will see more cookers on x1 section soon.

perhaps sony pay them for not releasing roms =)

I'm sure we'll see more I'm sure when the X1a is widely available in the US. And then in three years when its availble in Canada

we dont exactly have a lot of base roms to work with
so if we were suddenly inundated with new cooked roms then theyd only be based on the same couple of core os revisions.

I am also an owner of a SE X1 and I am trying to learn to cook my own Rom.
I have read on the forum as also the Wiki of XDA for 3 weeks and I read so many treats about:
• flashing my X1.
• creating my own packages.
• cooking different kind of roms with several kind of packages.
• and now im trying to build my own ROM with my own splash screen and
with a lighter version of WM6.1.
I'm learning quite fast. But sad enough there itn´t a Master tutorial for doing al this. After all this i want to build my own Panel. I don't know if
that can be customised. but I give it a try.
I wanna thank you all for all the online Tutorials.
I´m also going to try youtube for some Videos about "Cooking you own Rom"
Greetz PeteyB

Please cook ROMS
I know that X1 is not favorite as DIAMOND,
but please for god sake cook some ROMS.
Thank You Very Much
CHEERS !!!

fards said:
we dont exactly have a lot of base roms to work with
so if we were suddenly inundated with new cooked roms then theyd only be based on the same couple of core os revisions.
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Courier advice to me says my X1 (supposedly "a") may be delivered today or tomorrow, so I was looking forward to playing. Too close to Xmas family-time for very much of that, however.
There is JL's basic 1.04 ROM. Full extraction of this nbh file allows you to add/subtract what you want. As I understand it, the XIP section is device-independent, so newer XIP's from any of the sub-forums are useful. OEM's are what SE has coded for this device and these are obviously limited. Additional CAB packages are there for the looking.
All up, an incentive to understand dsm, rgu, hv etc. This is not easy as there are only snippets of competing, conflicting and incomplete information available in the various sub-forum resources.
One thing I hope to post before Xmas is the accuracy of the 850Mhz UMTS availability in the X1a. If this proves accurate, extracting the radio ROM is my next step.

I think the reason why there are not many cooked rom because not a lot of cooker own the experia. And the X1a looks like an endanger species in NA so that's prob the reason why.

they key question is, will the x1a roms work on x1i cause of the one camera and fps recording diffrence.....

+1 for a tutorial on creating a simple, asumes only basic knowlage about the device rom cooking guide
there is alot of cool stuff in the wiki but it it does not have everything and it no organised properly. im still forced to read ridicouls amounts of irrelevent text in old threads
that would greatly help

ianl8888 said:
the XIP section is device-independent, so newer XIP's from any of the sub-forums are useful.
Yep I've built two roms based on ported xips for this now, one off the newest blackstone, and one off the raphael, but wasn't happy with either, I think I prefer building off the stock SEUS rom.
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xmoo said:
they key question is, will the x1a roms work on x1i cause of the one camera and fps recording diffrence.....
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@xmoo
Two separate questions here:
1) x1a radio ROM's on X1i ? Obviously, that cannot yet be answered. Read my post, please - I will try to answer the question when the device finally arrives, maybe today or tomorrow, by extracting the radio and posting it here. Hassling will not make this happen any quicker, OK ?
2) crippled fps recording ? I'm afraid I couldn't care less. For me, a total irrelevancy

fatso485 said:
+1 for a tutorial on creating a simple, asumes only basic knowlage about the device rom cooking guide
there is alot of cool stuff in the wiki but it it does not have everything and it no organised properly. im still forced to read ridicouls amounts of irrelevent text in old threads
that would greatly help
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@fatso485
Yes, of course, but I'm afraid that's not going to happen:
1) there are a variety of ways to deal with the rgu's, dsm's, initflashes, hv files etc. There seems to be no common agreement amongst the experienced cooks on how to do these necessary operations; certainly, there is no complete guide on this, just snippets of conflicting and incomplete advice ... and some of this is plain wrong
2) most cooks protect their ROM in any case, since donations are part of their income. There are some genuinely noble exceptions, such as M'Amine and cs_shekhar, but extracting their ROM's reveals very different methods of dealing with 1) above
Our best way forward is to examine those ROM's that we can extract fully and sort out a methodical path. At least, that's what I'm attempting.

ianl8888 said:
@xmoo
Two separate questions here:
1) x1a radio ROM's on X1i ? Obviously, that cannot yet be answered. Read my post, please - I will try to answer the question when the device finally arrives, maybe today or tomorrow, by extracting the radio and posting it here. Hassling will not make this happen any quicker, OK ?
2) crippled fps recording ? I'm afraid I couldn't care less. For me, a total irrelevancy
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Telstra here in Aus have just released the X1a and I picked mine up on Friday and loving it.
I'm happy to help dump the ROM/Radio if someone is willing to help me as I haven't done it before.
Let me know.
Dev

thedeva said:
Telstra here in Aus have just released the X1a and I picked mine up on Friday and loving it.
I'm happy to help dump the ROM/Radio if someone is willing to help me as I haven't done it before.
Let me know.
Dev
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That's good !! Mine is now not due till tomorrow.
But before you go attempting a dump (and I'll help you through that), the most critical question we have is this:
1) since you bought it from Telstra, I'm assuming you have a Telstra SIM capable of 3G. (If not, end of story).
If this assumption is correct, the question becomes "which area or region are you in ?" This is most important for the next step, because if you are in a city-type area (Sydney, Melbourne etc), your 3G will automatically connect to the UMTS 2100Mhz band that Telstra uses in these areas.
Since the X1i also does this, it will tell us nothing new.
If you are in a regional area, your SIM will attempt to connect 3G on the UMTS 850Mhz band because the 2100Mhz band cannot penetrate the larger distances with its shorter wavelength. The Telstra 3G-enabled SIM card does this switch automatically. but if the hardware or firmware in the device cannot connect to the 850Mhz frequency, you will not be able to do 3G in a regional area.
So, which area are you in, please ? If regional, can you connect to 3G?

We should buy Dutty a X1... I had Diamond, Touch Pro and now X1. X1 has the best potential, but is lagging with the best cooks being in other devices.

WWE X1 Roms for English Speakers in Korea

If you are an English speaker and use an X1 in Korea, feel free to visit my forum to download my English custom roms. I have numerous roms, 6.1 and 6.5, Manila with weather home tab and older Manila roms. My roms all support Korean language reading and input, with working SMS+MMS on SK Telecom.
Attached are some screenshots of my roms.
http://smartphone.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=x1rom

Wow, thanks!

its great to see you in this forum. many thanks to your great rom!

evank418 said:
its great to see you in this forum. many thanks to your great rom!
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Hello! Great to see you as well.

jinouk said:
Hello! Great to see you as well.
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are you not logging into naver cafe anymore? don't know exactly what happened at that blog, but people were pissed and angry about some guy using your kitchen without any permission and claiming that it was his?

deleted wrong thread.

evank418 said:
are you not logging into naver cafe anymore? don't know exactly what happened at that blog, but people were pissed and angry about some guy using your kitchen without any permission and claiming that it was his?
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Yeah, I am no longer a member of that message board. Just too difficult to read that forum format and people there don't bother to search.
About that "guy", something happened, but I don't want to talk about him. It's best to ignore trolls.
Anyway, take care!

Works
Thanks JinOuk.
Works.
Link to the site again:
http://smartphone.proboards.com/index.cgi
run HarpSPL, then flash the ROM. Good to go. No SMS problems, no data problems. Works with the SK network but runs the phone in English

did you delete your proboards account? when I click on the link it just goes to the proboards homepage..
I am desperately searching for updated korean roms. SK has screwed us all over by hijacking the mms and sms to their crap..
where can I find your roms now?

links dont work

Hero 6.5 V4.5
For some reason, the blog http://smartphone.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=x1rom is un reachable in Korea. Is anyone able to log on to this blog? Jinouk, is there another way to get this rom apart from this board? I have tried from all places.

paulysoft said:
For some reason, the blog http://smartphone.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=x1rom is un reachable in Korea. Is anyone able to log on to this blog? Jinouk, is there another way to get this rom apart from this board? I have tried from all places.
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Hello. My forum is closed now because I have stopped developing roms for the X1. My wife was using the X1, but she and I both got the iPhone 3GS last month.
Here are some links for some of my roms. It seems someone who had them uploaded them and posted the links on another site.
WM 6.5 Hero v4.5
http://www.mediafire.com/?ltjmayudjam
WM 6.5 Build 23071 "Trek" 1.0
http://www.mediafire.com/?m1jxzmoxlmy
WM 6.1 "Dusk"
http://www.mediafire.com/?mq3tjynmy33

Many thanks for the links. im using the WM 6.5 Hero v4.5 now and it is workin great. I am able to send and recieve sms using this one.

Dusk Version is Very Fast, and More attractive, But some input is Korean.

Here's a link for some of my other ROMS, which are more recent than the ones above.
http://awsome.kr/?mid=Windowsmobile
Novation Fixed = WM 6.1 + Manila 2.1 (with animated home tab weather)
Novation 65 = WM 6.5 + Manila 2.1 (with animated home tab weather)
JinOuk_Sonnet = WM 6.5 + Sense 2.5
Dusk 65 = WM 6.5 + TF3D 2.1
DuskII = WM 6.1 + TF3D 2.1 (please install 2 included error patch cabs after flashing)
I don't cook ROMS anymore because I moved to the iPhone, but I want to help out English speakers using the X1 in Korea, so I am providing this link.

Thanks so much for these!
A few things:
How do you get GPS to work on sonnet?
Also could you translate the Korean instructions posted with the sonnet rom from the link?
Many thanks!

redjeff said:
Thanks so much for these!
A few things:
How do you get GPS to work on sonnet?
Also could you translate the Korean instructions posted with the sonnet rom from the link?
Many thanks!
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GPS works fine on Sonnet. If it isn't working, you may want to re-flash. The instructions from that user basically say that after flashing, you should hard reset the device and then soft reset a couple of times afterwards toget the rom running smoothly.
Here is a Youtube video of Sonnet. In the video, you'll see me running Quick GPS as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZBU7CSfn1I

Hi Jinouk, Im the one who did email you on youtube. Im Using the sonnet now w/o any problem. By the way is it possible to unlock the sim of the skt x1? if it is possible can you tell us how?
Many Thanks for the ROMs.

redjeff said:
Thanks so much for these!
A few things:
How do you get GPS to work on sonnet?
Also could you translate the Korean instructions posted with the sonnet rom from the link?
Many thanks!
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you can use google translate. Thats what i did.

Just to keep Jinouk's ROMs alive and to help x1 users here in korea i did uploaded them on hotfile. I know that Jinouk's ROMs are very hard to find on the net coz i do have my own exprience googleing them without any results until i stumbled upon Jinouk's own video on youtube and emailed him and he did gave me some hints on how to search for the ROMs. Even Jinouk's dont have any copy of the ROMs coz he switch to Iphone.
Now Im preserving them and never ever delete them on my computer.
Here are the mirrors of the ROMs.
Jinouk Dusk 6.5
http://hotfile.com/dl/52558277/0af4d59/JinOuk_Dusk65.rar.html
Jinouk Leo Sonnet
http://hotfile.com/dl/52558632/f100396/JinOuk_Leo_Sonnet.rar.html
Jinouk Novation *Fixed*
http://hotfile.com/dl/52558428/842a5f2/JinOuk_Novation_Fixed.rar.html
Jinouk Dusk II
http://hotfile.com/dl/52558557/d559c40/JinOuk_DuskII.rar.html
**UNRAR first before installing**
Please DONT FORGET to say THANKS to JinOuk..
JinOuk Many Thanks for the ROMs.. Im a Fan
**Just Pm me If the Links Are Dead.. I will Reupload them for you**