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Xperia X1 has a Qualcomm MSM7200 528MHz processor and Omnia i900 has a 624MHz Marvell PXA312 processor , now the question is :
Xperia cpu has the top speed or Omnia Cpu ???
please answer with full detail and full info !!!
thanks
ofcource omnia has a faster cpu
xperia in my opinion is suffering from not optimal firmware..
however i have seen a video online about xperia vs touch pro when switching landscape to port. , xperia wins..
what do u intend to use the phone for most impt.
CPU speed has nothing to do with actual performance, there are many variables there like RAM, video processor and many other things.
so if you want to know which is better between the two by comparing the CPU, then i think you are heading the wrong way.
samy.3660 said:
ofcource omnia has a faster cpu
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thanks but i need full details !!!
May i know why my Quake 3 only running 1fps on my xperia?
mcbyte_it said:
CPU speed has nothing to do with actual performance, there are many variables there like RAM, video processor and many other things.
so if you want to know which is better between the two by comparing the CPU, then i think you are heading the wrong way.
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you right !!!
i want to now xperia x1 has top speed and top performance or Omnia i900 !!!
xperia have 256mb ram and omnia have 128mb ram !!!
I also got an Fujitsu Siemens n560 with xscale 624MHz (pxa 27* i think) and its twice as fast as xperia playing vga avi.
If i compare the time they need to open /windows for example, the xperia is faster.
The qualcomm is made to run with extra graphics chip i think and is slow if it has to draw something itself.
Der_Immitanz_konverter said:
I also got an Fujitsu Siemens n560 with xscale 624MHz (pxa 27* i think) and its twice as fast as xperia playing vga avi.
If i compare the time they need to open /windows for example, the xperia is faster.
The qualcomm is made to run with extra graphics chip i think and is slow if it has to draw something itself.
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thanks ! nice !!
command , more info , you can do it !!!
CPU Topic only...
No brainer! 624MHz > 528MHz.. Omnia Wins!
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frankly, you can't compare CPU with MHZ. depends on the internal structure.. for example, u take a pentium 3 CPU 3GHZ vs intel core 2 3GHZ, intel core 2 will be WAY faster
leobox1 said:
frankly, you can't compare CPU with MHZ. depends on the internal structure.. for example, u take a pentium 3 CPU 3GHZ vs intel core 2 3GHZ, intel core 2 will be WAY faster
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yes , you right !!! we can't compare CPU with MHZ !!!!
xxl2005 said:
yes , you right !!! we can't compare CPU with MHZ !!!!
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I have to disagree on this one.
Of course there are hundreds of important facts, how the CPU is processing the data, which structure it is using, what processes can be outsourced, how they are transferred and so on.
But these are concerns of the processor type and its environment.
The MHz say, how many operations the CPU can do per second. That is the only indication of its real speed.
Just think about the car industry. If you want to compare the power of an engine to another, everything that counts is the power. There are thousands of reasons why the car with the weaker engine could be faster than the other (maybe the stronger engine is built in a truck or what else).
But you wanted to compare the engines, so the most powerful wins.
I'm sure, the opener of the thread rather wanted to hear about the overall phone speed, but then he asked the wrong question.
i remember he powerpc cpu used to be lower than p4 but used to run a lot faster. i think the ram is the bigger factor between these 2 handsets. i know the x1 has a due core cpu, not sure on the other handset.
correct me if im wrong but these are both based on the same arm cpu right?
damskie said:
CPU Topic only...
No brainer! 624MHz > 528MHz.. Omnia Wins!
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Just like the old AMD 64 series CPU's beat Intel Pentium 4 chips which ran at a way higher clockspeed?
Get the facts straight before posting ignorant posts like that. Pure clockspeed has nothing to do with overall performance of a CPU.
Non scientific answer here, but ive got both phones.
The omnia on the stock Vodafone UK rom was slow as ya like to the point where the phone was almost useless.
Both phones with cooked roms on them perform about the same.
Personal winner... cant choose, omnia better as a phone, x1 better as a pda, not amazed by either.
lol not amazed by either
Simple test. One is Divx certified and the other isn't. That's a true performance test.
Hi,
i used to have both phone and i have used them and test them a lot.
for processors mhz doesn't mean anything sine a long time now.That why industry has creatd mips instead of frequency . Why ? for instance take a pentium 1 266mhz and a pentium 1 mmx 266mhz. same frequency but p1 mmx was way faster because of optimise instructions inside the cpu itself. Don't forgot we speak for frenquency about cpu cycles. before it was 1 cpu cycle = one simple operation since mmx 1cpu cycle severals operations. So you can have a very high frequency processor which can do worst than a lesser frenquency one. Compare Pentium 2 400mhz with a G3 266 mhz. G3 had the same performance. Why? not the same technology inside. A core 2 duo 1.8gz will outperform an p4 4 ghz even with more than 2ghz frenquency difference!!!
So to come back to the thread. omnia 1 arm cpu. xperia qualcomm 2700a.
2700a = dual core processor with integrated gpu. 1 core for the pda 1 core for the phone and 1 core for the 3d graphic cards( omnia doesn't have an accelerated graphic card.) So with the actual firmware we can say that omnia has reached the maximum of its capabilities. Which is not true with the xperia.
in cpu benchmark the two are about equals. But xperia is faster in all the other domain like memory access ...better multitasking on xperia.
for example on omnia when using their touchscroll music player if you got a lot of music the music will stop during the scrolling because scrolling" iphone like" takes a lot of ram....
the truth is that it's better to have more ram and a less powerfull processor than having a powerfull processor and no ram.
after a lot of testing i have sold my omnia and kept my xperia.
it's only my opinion with the test i made.
cheers.
NuShrike said:
Simple test. One is Divx certified and the other isn't. That's a true performance test.
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divx playback with the integrated player was shocking. Packets of pixels everywhere...thx coreplayer to play divx so well!! and the resolution is a bit too small 240*400.
only samsung phone are divx certified... maybe because the other construtor didn't ask for the certification.
How come the Kaiser's Hero port runs faster than Hero runs on my phone?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xVYcFZiYgE
Seriously, what did they do to make it that responsive?
ivanmmj said:
How come the Kaiser's Hero port runs faster than Hero runs on my phone?
Seriously, what did they do to make it that responsive?
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Maybe it has something to do with the fast that the Tilt has 256mb of RAM while the G1 has only 192. But that's my guess.
CORRECTED DUE TO MIS-READ AND MISUNDERSTOOD INFORMATION.
Most likely the reason above. ANyone know the specs of the processor?
alritewhadeva said:
Most likely the reason above. ANyone know the specs of the processor?
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G1:
Processor Qualcomm® MSM7201A™, 528 MHz
Tilt:
Qualcomm MSM7200, 400Mhz processor
Ref: http://www.htc.com/us/support_select_product.aspx
I actually stand corrected.
Here are the ACTUAL specs...
G1:
CPU: 32 bit Qualcomm MSM7201A
CPU Clock: 528 MHz
CPU Core: ARM1136EJ-S
Instruction set: ARMv6
Level 1 cache: No information
Level 2 cache: No information
Memory, Storage capacity
RAM type: mobile DDR SDRAM
RAM capacity: 192 MiB
ROM type: Flash EEPROM
ROM capacity: 256 MiB
Tilt:
32 bit Qualcomm MSM7200
400 MHz
ARM1136EJ-S
ARMv6
No information
No information
SDRAM
128 MiB , 101.38MiB accessible
Flash EEPROM
256 MiB, 124.66MiB accessible
Not supported
124.66 MiB
Not supported
So it seems that I was mistaken in my previous and premature post above and it seems that the G1 has more RAM.
Perhaps it's because Hero at this time requires data to be read off the SDCARD which is slower then build in memory?
ref: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=861&id2=1908
Binary100100 said:
G1:
Processor Qualcomm® MSM7201A™, 528 MHz
Tilt:
Qualcomm MSM7200, 400Mhz processor
Ref: http://www.htc.com/us/support_select_product.aspx
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but isnt it running on top of the native windows mobile system?
No, they're running it completely off the SDCard.
As far as running on top of WM, it doesn't, it just kicks WM out of RAM and takes over.
So how does g1 compare to other phone competitors in terms of gpu power? Im not sure but does the iphone have a better gpu since it can play these hq 3d games? Do otehr current android phones have better gpus?
GPU is located on the processor....look up the stats for them
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G1/Hero: 528 MHz Qualcomm MSM7201A ARM11 processor, up to 4 million triangles/sec
3GS: PowerVR SGX GPU SGX535 and SGX540 (28 MPolys/s)
The 3GS, Droid, and Pre have the same processor/GPU
OMAP3430 - 600 MHz ARM Cortex A8 + PowerVR SGX 530 GPU + 430MHz C64x+ DSP + ISP (Image Signal Processor)
B-man007 said:
GPU is located on the processor....look up the stats for them
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G1/Hero: 528 MHz Qualcomm MSM7201A ARM11 processor, up to 4 million triangles/sec
3GS: PowerVR SGX GPU SGX535 and SGX540 (28 MPolys/s)
The 3GS, Droid, and Pre have the same processor/GPU
OMAP3430 - 600 MHz ARM Cortex A8 + PowerVR SGX 530 GPU + 430MHz C64x+ DSP + ISP (Image Signal Processor)
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doesnt pre have a 1ghz cpu? So droid should be capable at handling more intensive apps?
Ace42 said:
doesnt pre have a 1ghz cpu? So droid should be capable at handling more intensive apps?
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where did you hear that....
The Palm Pre's CPU is a 600 MHz Texas Instruments OMAP 3430 (ARM Cortex A8 + PowerVR SGX) underclocked to 500 MHz.
Hardware-wise yes, but softwarewise, we'll see
B-man007 said:
where did you hear that....
The Palm Pre's CPU is a 600 MHz Texas Instruments OMAP 3430 (ARM Cortex A8 + PowerVR SGX) underclocked to 500 MHz.
Hardware-wise yes, but softwarewise, we'll see
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I went to a sprint store and the manager told me it had a 1Ghz, when i asked him about the specs,but i wanted i hero.
Ace42 said:
I went to a sprint store and the manager told me it had a 1Ghz, when i asked him about the specs,but i wanted i hero.
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he wanted to see a phone....never trust salesmen
B-man007 said:
GPU is located on the processor....look up the stats for them
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G1/Hero: 528 MHz Qualcomm MSM7201A ARM11 processor, up to 4 million triangles/sec
3GS: PowerVR SGX GPU SGX535 and SGX540 (28 MPolys/s)
The 3GS, Droid, and Pre have the same processor/GPU
OMAP3430 - 600 MHz ARM Cortex A8 + PowerVR SGX 530 GPU + 430MHz C64x+ DSP + ISP (Image Signal Processor)
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and how's good this omap3430 compared with the snapdragon?
PaoloWeckl said:
and how's good this omap3430 compared with the snapdragon?
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The 1gHz version has High-performance 3D graphics – up to 22M triangles/sec and 133M 3D pixels/sec
much more powerful..they are using these to power netbooks. it has everything on one chip (bluetooth, wifi, data, etc)
But what about the original 3g and not 3gs.
The MBX Lite is capable of providing fill rates exceeding 135 million pixels per second and a throughput of 1.7 million triangles per second, depending on configuration.
original + 3g
can any one xtract videodriver from at&t tilit 2 touch pro 2 as it has same processor 7201a but it is 2x faster my theared was closed i don't know why was about drivers from touchpro 2 to be extracted but they told me that it has diffrent processor but touch pro 2 at&t tilt2 has same processor so let's continue
i think if you ask in the touch pro 2 forum, youre more likely to get a response as youll probably find more people with a touch pro 2 there
be sure to keep us posted though.
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can any one xtract videodriver from at&t tilit 2 touch pro 2 as it has same processor 7201a but it is 2x faster my theared was closed i don't know why was about drivers from touchpro 2 to be extracted but they told me that it has diffrent processor but touch pro 2 at&t tilt2 has same processor so let's continue
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Touch Pro 2 = AT&T Tilt, the same phone, but branded and styled differently for AT&T.
The specs for Touch Pro clearly show on the HTC website as HTC Processor Qualcomm® MSM7200A™, 528 MHz
http://www.htc.com/www/product/touchpro2/specification.html
And the HD shows Processor Qualcomm® MSM 7201A™ 528 MHz
http://www.htc.com/www/product/touchhd/specification.html
I think someone already pointed this out to you on the second page of your last thread, which was why I think the thread was closed.
xmsnx said:
Touch Pro 2 = AT&T Tilt, the same phone, but branded and styled differently for AT&T.
The specs for Touch Pro clearly show on the HTC website as HTC Processor Qualcomm® MSM7200A™, 528 MHz
http://www.htc.com/www/product/touchpro2/specification.html
And the HD shows Processor Qualcomm® MSM 7201A™ 528 MHz
http://www.htc.com/www/product/touchhd/specification.html
I think someone already pointed this out to you on the second page of your last thread, which was why I think the thread was closed.
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this is of the at&t tilit it is like our hd and here is its spicifications http://www.htc.com/us/products/tilt-2-att#tech-specs
My mistake, you're absolutely right,, sorry
well i whas partisipating in the other thread to about the chipset driver
but if the at&t tilt2 is the tp2 from america and also has the 7201a proc maybe we can try the chipset driver from the tilt2 to poort to the hd
if the tilt2 is as snappy as the dutch one
(wonder why america ueses a different proc)
miniterror said:
well i whas partisipating in the other thread to about the chipset driver
but if the at&t tilt2 is the tp2 from america and also has the 7201a proc maybe we can try the chipset driver from the tilt2 to poort to the hd
if the tilt2 is as snappy as the dutch one
(wonder why america ueses a different proc)
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According to [email protected], "The US version uses the MSM7201A while the WWE version would use the MSM7200A, this is because of an patent infringement of Qualcomm with Broadcomm patents presumably with something related to video compression. "
MSM 7201A is basically a cut down version of MSM7200A, it doesn't have the 30fps VGA recording..
jldiablo said:
According to [email protected], "The US version uses the MSM7201A while the WWE version would use the MSM7200A, this is because of an patent infringement of Qualcomm with Broadcomm patents presumably with something related to video compression. "
MSM 7201A is basically a cut down version of MSM7200A, it doesn't have the 30fps VGA recording..
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7200a doesnot support vga recording at 30 fps it suppports 24 fbs
have you asked in the tp2 forum yet?
if you want me to, just ask.
Sorry for this question, but I'm very confuse about gpu of I9070,some people said "s advance have single gpu" but on website official novathor u8500 said "multi core gpu process graphics 2d and 3d" So s advance have single or dual gpu ? Thanks http://developer.sonymobile.com/knowledge-base/technologies/novethor-u8500/
S Advance has a single core Mali 400 MP GPU. And as far as I know, the Galaxy S2 also has a Mali 400 MP GPU - but its dual core (instead of just one core). If you read about Mali-400 MP in ARM's website (link), this is what you'll see:
Scalable from 1 to 4 cores the Mali-400 MP enables a wide range of different use cases, from mobile user interfaces up to smartphones, tablets and DTVs, to be addressed with a single IP. One single driver stack for all multi-core configurations simplifies application porting, system integration and maintenance. Multicore scheduling and performance scaling is fully handled within the graphics system, with no special considerations required from the application developer
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So this shows that different phones can use the same GPU but with different number of cores.
PS: Anyone is free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Sami Kabir said:
S Advance has a single core Mali 400 MP GPU. And as far as I know, the Galaxy S2 also has a Mali 400 MP GPU - but its dual core (instead of just one core). If you read about Mali-400 MP in ARM's website (link), this is what you'll see:
So this shows that different phones can use the same GPU but with different number of cores.
PS: Anyone is free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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Thanks for answer. It's very stranger because my galaxy S advance runs n.o.v.a 3 smooth and fast (mali400), and I have one tablet based allwinner A13 (mali 400), sometimes I got hard lags ( yes I always optimize my mb ram).