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Music Player with GENRE?

I've used search... on this forum and several others...
The native music app, and what seems like the vast majority of free 3rd party music apps, are missing what is to me, a vital function of any music player software... browse/play by genre.
I love the simplicity of the default app, and if the default app had this feature, it would be perfect for me.
Anybody have any suggestions for music apps that browse/play by genre?

Don't think of the music players will do this, but you can create playlists by genre and play those.

Shrivel said:
Don't think of the music players will do this, but you can create playlists by genre and play those.
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Grrrrr... For me, genre sorting is actually more important than album or artist sorting, but thanks for the help
That news is disappointing. Since I randomize which 8 gb of my 40 gb collection gets sent to my phone every few days, static playlists aren't really viable for me. Maybe if there were smart playlists?

ooooooh... just watched that video of the experimental H-port of the Hero build. I spied Genre sorting! Guess I'll just have to wait and hope

davidemartindale said:
I've used search... on this forum and several others...
The native music app, and what seems like the vast majority of free 3rd party music apps, are missing what is to me, a vital function of any music player software... browse/play by genre.
I love the simplicity of the default app, and if the default app had this feature, it would be perfect for me.
Anybody have any suggestions for music apps that browse/play by genre?
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if you want to organize them by genre just put them in files named hip hop or country or metal rock whatever. then go get the free app. "mediabypath" then open it and it will show your music files or whatever.
go to the file with the genre you want and dont click it press and hold on it (so if you have a hip hop folder dont go in it just press and hold)(make sure you dont have anything in the current playlist) and itle say "queue all next" click on that.
while its playing go to the music player , click on the top right hand icon that has a list icon ,hit menu, then save as playlist, name it whatever genre.
That will organize your playlist for you by genre. and repeat the process but make sure the playlist is cleared before doing the next genre
i hope that helps. i was one that hated having to sort through all my music to hear one song. and i hated the fact that it would play my ringtones with my music and it would shuffle them by the name instead of by folders.

Genre sorting is vital for me too and I do it with MediaByPath. I organise the music on the SD card in Genre folders (drum'n'bass, ska, trance, etc) and put the artists and albums in fub folders if needed. The app loads the entire content of chosen folder (unfortunately not the content of subfolders, which must be added manually).

Right on, thanks again for all the help everybody.
Unfortunately, I can't organize into genre folders either since the entire contents of the music on my phone (8gb) changes randomly every few days... Well, I suppose I could, but it seems unlikely that I would take the time needed multiple times a week.
I use a program on my desktop that randomly chooses a selection of my music library and copies those files to my phone. It is also set to never select a song that was used during the previous selection process. So I literally never have any song more than 2 or 3 days in a row, and I never know what songs are going to be chosen.
Seriously though, the members of this forum have been extraordinarily helpful since I stumbled across it a couple weeks ago. I really appreciate the effort.

davidemartindale said:
Right on, thanks again for all the help everybody.
Unfortunately, I can't organize into genre folders either since the entire contents of the music on my phone (8gb) changes randomly every few days... Well, I suppose I could, but it seems unlikely that I would take the time needed multiple times a week.
I use a program on my desktop that randomly chooses a selection of my music library and copies those files to my phone. It is also set to never select a song that was used during the previous selection process. So I literally never have any song more than 2 or 3 days in a row, and I never know what songs are going to be chosen.
Seriously though, the members of this forum have been extraordinarily helpful since I stumbled across it a couple weeks ago. I really appreciate the effort.
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wow yeah in that case you might have to wait for the HERO build then i organize my stuff myself in folders but i can understand how time consuming it would be to organize when you get the music randomly. but yeah sorry bro either way mediabypath is still pretty nice if you were to ever get the time to organize your music glad we could "attempt" to help

Xperia Media Panel

I read that the Xperia Media panel will search my entire memory card for music. Problem is, I have Starcraft and other things installed, and Starcraft alone has like 900 audio files. Is there anyway I can keep the panel from adding certain files?
I was hoping to avoid installing those things directly to my phone.
Thanks,
Kurazz

I don't know of such way to skip folders from being scanned. And the worst thing is, that I can't go through MP3 folders, but should rely on id3 tags and playlists. And many times my mp3s just don't have tags, or it's VA folder, so I need to create playlists for every folder of music, that is not with one artist/album.

For me it was annoying looking at my images.
Now I live without Starcraft on my phone. Interested for a solution as well.
But I think there is no hope...I even have trouble with folders I don't want Windows Media Player to scan...and thats a desktop computer program

Eventually, if I can't find a solution, I'll just install Starcraft directly to my phone (It just will take up most my remaining space). I'm sure there is some sort of tweak you can do though.

Music Sync Issue (Unknown Artist)

I have searched far and wide through this forum, and also googled it, and there doesn't seem to be an answer, so I will bring it up again. I have imported pretty much all of my music with iTunes, which tagged and organized all my music. However, when I put my music onto my nexus one, many many albums get sorted into "unknown artist" when all of my music is nicely sorted in folders by artists. This seems very strange to me. People have suggested double twist and a few other various programs, but no one has given any input as to whether these programs worked. Does anyone have an answer for this?

As I was looking through the albums that have been filed as "unknown artist" I noticed that each song had a number infront of it as the designation of which song number each song on the album was. I am going to play with this tomorrow and see if editing each track (this is going to suck, I have over 4000 songs in my library!!!!) will help at all.

adamhlj said:
As I was looking through the albums that have been filed as "unknown artist" I noticed that each song had a number infront of it as the designation of which song number each song on the album was. I am going to play with this tomorrow and see if editing each track (this is going to suck, I have over 4000 songs in my library!!!!) will help at all.
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well froyo will have the ability to play music OTA from itunes with an update for the music application in the market after froyo releases. it may fix the problem. if you can wait for a few weeks it may be resolved. as for being put as unknown, maybe the artist is not tagged correctly. check the mp3 tags to make sure that data is there

Your ID3 tags are screwed up. Your filenames don't matter, it's the ID3 tags.
Use MP3Tag (google it), it's one of the best taggers there is.

+1 for mp3tag
been using it for years
I dont let any programs "automatically organize" my music
becareful with it though, if you mass edit something incorrectly you could find that all of your tags get messed up

try music folder on the market

Well, thank you very much for the info! I will look into it today and hopefully get my music all sorted out!

I have the very same problem.
Most of the replies here seem to suggest that retagging the mp3s will solve the issue. However, all of my mp3s were working correctly before I upgraded to Froyo. To confirm this, I've just done a restore to cyanogen 5 and sure enough, all were working fine again.
When I used easytag to fix some of the files, they still didn't show up the correct information under Froyo. So, there's definitely something fishy going on here!

I have similar problems sometimes when there are multiple tags (id2,id3 etc). Using an app to clean the tags and reapply them in a uniform way usually works tho.
A seperate issue tho is embedded albumn art doesnt show up for a couple of albumns. The tags are identical to other albumns that work, and so are the image file types used to create the cover art. Anoying! These are the kind of little niggly problems that make jo public buy an iphone

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I have similar problems sometimes when there are multiple tags (id2,id3 etc). Using an app to clean the tags and reapply them in a uniform way usually works tho.
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What app would you suggest to clean them up? I've tried using MP3Tagger Pro, but I'm a complete n00b at this sort of thing.

I downloaded MP3Tag, and that did the trick. the only thing is that It does take a long time to get everything set up. And I downloaded the album art from amazon. I have only fixed a few albums, tho. I have over 4000 songs in my library, so I am only doing the ones that I have on my storage card at the moment.

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I downloaded MP3Tag, and that did the trick. the only thing is that It does take a long time to get everything set up. And I downloaded the album art from amazon. I have only fixed a few albums, tho. I have over 4000 songs in my library, so I am only doing the ones that I have on my storage card at the moment.
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Thanks for your reply!

adamhlj said:
I downloaded MP3Tag, and that did the trick. the only thing is that It does take a long time to get everything set up. And I downloaded the album art from amazon. I have only fixed a few albums, tho. I have over 4000 songs in my library, so I am only doing the ones that I have on my storage card at the moment.
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If it makes you feel any better I have over 12000 tracks and some were tagged badly that I pulled from a friemds music library

So I had something strange happen. Ever since I got the update for froyo, all the music on my SD card has been properly tagged (at least it gets sorted correctly by artist, album, etc.) Hooray for FROYO!!

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If it makes you feel any better I have over 12000 tracks and some were tagged badly that I pulled from a friemds music library
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Oh man, that SUCKS!!! i am glad i am not you, lol.

Android music library issues
Hi,
Here is the issue: after installing cyanogenmod 7 on my HD2, I have tranfered about 5Go of music from my pc to the sd card.
The problem is that all these mp3 have proper mp3 tag in ID3 v2.3 in UTF-8, but they are all recognized as "Unknown artists" mp3, and the album is just the folder.
I have tried to transfer an alicia keys album (only a single album) to the phone, also in id3 v2.3, and it is correctly tagged and recognized.
So I've tried to delete de media storage data, and reboot the phone.
At the start up, the system rescan the entirer sd card, but now the alicia keys albums are recognized as "unknown artist" and the album is also just the mp3 folder.
I have the same issue when rescanning with meridian player.
The problem seems to appears only when there are several folder of mp3/large amount of mp3 files to scan ex: >1Gb)
At this point, I've understood several points:
1. android can correctly read mp3 music with tags in ID3 V2.3
2. massive scan of music seems to be the cause of incorrect recognition of mp3 from android.
At this point, is there a way to properly scan mp3 with there tags, even in a massive scan ?

Media Manager for Android - They all Suck

So my father and step mother recently got new Android phone, they both got Evo 4G's. My father has been working non stop to get his wife's music and audio books setup so that it's really easy to make playlist, sync them, play them back, etc. He has used WMP, had issues with that, so I suggested DoubleTwist. He messed with it and didn't like the interface, felt that it wasn't that intuitive. I decided that I would actually mess with dT myself so that I could see if it was worth suggesting to others. I found it pretty easy to make playlist and sync them and stuff, but there is one major problem with it, it ignores track numbers. I can't get it to show me track numbers at all, and can't get it to organize track in an album by track number, and if I drag a whole album into it's own playlist, it organized in alphabetical order, I can't get it to play by track number.
Next, I decided to mess with Motorola Media Link. I never even got to the point of seeing if it will work with my N1 cause I couldn't get it to sort by album, or artist or whatever when I clicked on the column header like would happen in Windows explorer. I can accept Motorola Media Link opening in artist mode first, but I should then be able to click a song, then go and hit the album column header and it will keep the fist song selected and resort the song by album showing the other songs in the same album above and below the original selected song, but that did not happen.
I'm not even going to mess with WMP anymore as I feel that is utter s**t when it comes UI. Doubletwist makes making playlist easy, but ignores track numbers, Motorola Media link doesn't sort things properly. Are there no other truly intuitive, easy to use, fully featured media player/manager for Android devices. I feel that this is going to make it difficult for Android devices to truly win over the hearts of iPhone users, who phone's just work. As much as I hate Apple's communist control over their platform and hardware, you have to give them credit for making a phone that even the technologically inept can use and work without problems

What's wrong with just drag and drop your files? I think that's the easiest way. Don't even need any software, just plug in the cable, it pops up as mass storage, drag over your files to a folder, done

I made the iPhone to N1 jump recently myself and had some similar growing pains in the media management side of things. Although I only really care about music (not podcasts or audiobooks) and have some real anal retentive requirements for playlist management, I've found bTunes as my media player and iSyncr for media management to be a great combination.
bTunes copies the navigation of the iOS iPod app perfectly, but adds in on-the-fly playlist creation and editing under the hood.
iSyncr lets me copy over playlists directly from my iTunes account, and updates playcounts and everything when I run the program.
I'm not sure if those things will apply to your parents' needs as elegantly as they have to my own. But hopefully it might help!

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What's wrong with just drag and drop your files? I think that's the easiest way. Don't even need any software, just plug in the cable, it pops up as mass storage, drag over your files to a folder, done
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That's what my father and I do for ourselves, but that's not a good solution for my step mother who's not good with that kind of stuff and really doesn't have any desire to learn that. The ultimate goal of all this is to make it as easy as possible for her so that she can do it all without having to ask my father how or have him do.
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I made the iPhone to N1 jump recently myself and had some similar growing pains in the media management side of things. Although I only really care about music (not podcasts or audiobooks) and have some real anal retentive requirements for playlist management, I've found bTunes as my media player and iSyncr for media management to be a great combination.
bTunes copies the navigation of the iOS iPod app perfectly, but adds in on-the-fly playlist creation and editing under the hood.
iSyncr lets me copy over playlists directly from my iTunes account, and updates playcounts and everything when I run the program.
I'm not sure if those things will apply to your parents' needs as elegantly as they have to my own. But hopefully it might help!
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Thanks, I'll send the info to my father and see if that works for him. He's still trying to find a solution for the audio books though. He's does some reading on the Audible Android app that's in beta and it appears to be having issues, so he's leery of installing it. But hopefully the music aspect will work for him.

Playlists and WMP
I am the father.
The biggest issue being able to easily have the playlists show upon the phone.
It can be accomplished with WMP by manually saving the play list as an M3u, then drag and drop that to root of the music folder on the phone, then you have to delete the auto generated WPl list from the pc in order to not have the play list show up twice in the play list list. This has to be repeated each time a change is made to the list.
Wish for WMP:
Allow you to set default play list file type.
For WMP to sync the list to the phone.
Thanks for any future help or advice.

jim.pulliam said:
I am the father.
The biggest issue being able to easily have the playlists show upon the phone.
It can be accomplished with WMP by manually saving the play list as an M3u, then drag and drop that to root of the music folder on the phone, then you have to delete the auto generated WPl list from the pc in order to not have the play list show up twice in the play list list. This has to be repeated each time a change is made to the list.
Wish for WMP:
Allow you to set default play list file type.
For WMP to sync the list to the phone.
Thanks for any future help or advice.
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i use fusion media player, excellent for making/viewing/playing playlists.
i dont know what format playlists are saved as, but the playlist i made in fusion works in other media players as well, like google play music, es media player, and stock gingerbread music player app.
i never even touched the playlist files, not move them, not edit or anything, idk where the file even is and my playlists work on all above mentioned players. enjoy!

Music App & ID3 Tag Problems

Hi All,
So, I recently went through my MP3 collection and finally cleaned up all my ID3 Tags (Specifically Artist and Album Artist fields) using Mp3Tag which tags in ID3v2.3 which is suppose to be android friendly (which took HOURS). Now when I actually sync any large amount of songs to the device many (tons) of them many of them display unknown artist, which just cant be because they all have these fields filled in. Now I know the XOOM uses the MTP protocol and so I have tried using WMP and Songbird to sync over to the device as well as just using window's 7 explorer to copy files over to Xoom. In all cases as soon as the MP3's actually get on the device it self it starts reverting the metadata taging on my MP3's back to the way they were before I cleaned them up. I have no idea how. This is honestly driving me nuts. To test this out I have removed all tagging data from some of the files and manually refreshed it and it still happens. Any other music nuts out their seeing this, and if so have you figured out a way to get around it?
Thanks,
Jvward
PS I honestly love the Xoom even with this problem its my fav

what program did you use to do all your tag editing? i recently did this with my 120GB music collection (96% legal too) so i can sympathize with the amount of effort it takes. i have however, not experienced the problem you described.
drop one of the affected files into your dropbox and pm that long with the correct and incorrect tag data to me. lets see if i can duplicate problem.

I sent you all the info please let me know anything you find, this is driving me nuts lol.

Please let me know what program works best for getting album art for my collection.

having the same issues what a pain in the ass, have to edit in winamp/itunes! WTF

Actually check out STAMP ID3 Editor very easy and its adding everything to the correct folder, artist, album and album cover...let me know how it works for you!