Hi all,
Sorry if this is a report. I've had my At&t tilt for 10 months now on the original wm6.0 rom. Lately it's been slow and thought about upgrading to wm6.1 and start from scratch. I read the rom development threads but the steps involve with flashing a rom seems so complicated that I am afraid it'll just kill my phone. I don't really need any fancy rom/radio etc. Just wanted the new features on wm6.1. I went through the At&t site for the ROM upgrade and got this link.
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=67&cat=2&dl_id=94
Can I just follow this, upgrade from 6.0 to 6.1 and then restore settings from Sprite Backup?
Thanks...
mikeee2 said:
Hi all,
Sorry if this is a report. I've had my At&t tilt for 10 months now on the original wm6.0 rom. Lately it's been slow and thought about upgrading to wm6.1 and start from scratch. I read the rom development threads but the steps involve with flashing a rom seems so complicated that I am afraid it'll just kill my phone. I don't really need any fancy rom/radio etc. Just wanted the new features on wm6.1. I went through the At&t site for the ROM upgrade and got this link.
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=67&cat=2&dl_id=94
Can I just follow this, upgrade from 6.0 to 6.1 and then restore settings from Sprite Backup?
Thanks...
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That is the latest Tilt 6.1 upgrade. Just follow the instructions and you will be all set.
If you do want a speedy full featured phone that you will love. mskip has made flashing as easy as upgrading a stock rom. Check it out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835
Then check out these roms, all great
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=492866
The settings you back up with Sprite back up will not be compatible with WM 6.1
I would use PIM Backup 2.8
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299705&highlight=PIM+Back
It's not recomended that you pull a backup on a new OS from an older one (even though some backup programs have this feature). Installing hardspl isn't as complicated as it seems; read the instructions above in the first link several times until you feel that you have a good grasp of what you're doing. If you're stuck at a place, feel free to PM me or post is mskip's thread.
denco7 said:
That is the latest Tilt 6.1 upgrade. Just follow the instructions and you will be all set.
If you do want a speedy full featured phone that you will love. mskip has made flashing as easy as upgrading a stock rom. Check it out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835
Then check out these roms, all great
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=492866
The settings you back up with Sprite back up will not be compatible with WM 6.1
I would use PIM Backup 2.8
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Thanks. Will the 6.1 speed up my phone? I read the first few pages of mskip's flashing rom and it just look "scary". Reading how some people flash it and the phone doesn't work anymore. I've been reluctant to upgrade because everything works now but if wm6.1 has new feature and speeds it up, I figure I can give it a shot. So PIM Backup will restore all my settings and all I have to do is install the 3rd party softwares?
mikeee2 said:
Thanks. Will the 6.1 speed up my phone? I read the first few pages of mskip's flashing rom and it just look "scary". Reading how some people flash it and the phone doesn't work anymore. I've been reluctant to upgrade because everything works now but if wm6.1 has new feature and speeds it up, I figure I can give it a shot. So PIM Backup will restore all my settings and all I have to do is install the 3rd party softwares?
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No, PIM Backup will only backup your PIM information as mentioned by the program's name. You'll need SPB or Sprite Backup to backup the whole device (which again, is not recommended).
You won't realize a big difference from going to stock 6.0 to stock 6.1, however you will see one from stock 6.0 to custom 6.1
kareem9nba said:
No, PIM Backup will only backup your PIM information as mentioned by the program's name. You'll need SPB or Sprite Backup to backup the whole device (which again, is not recommended).
You won't realize a big difference from going to stock 6.0 to stock 6.1, however you will see one from stock 6.0 to custom 6.1
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Hmmm...if it's not a big difference then maybe I should wait for wm6.5 or wm7.
What about a hard reset?
mikeee2 said:
Hmmm...if it's not a big difference then maybe I should wait for wm6.5 or wm7.
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If you were happy with it when you got it new, then just back up your important data and hard reset it. That will take it back to an as new configuration (with speed to match). I've tried the HTC official Windows Mobile 6.1 'upgrade' for the TyTN II (the HTC branded version of the Tilt) and it was so full of bugs and problems that it's now back running the original WM 6.0 version again. If you rely at all on the GPS functionality of your device, WM 6.0 will likely perform far better (at least it does with mine). Hard reset and see how much it speeds up again. If you need to know how to hard reset it, that's covered in your users manual (at least it is with the TyTN II or here on xdas wiki).
Remember the old adage, if it ain't broke, don't try to fix it
Flying Kiwi said:
If you were happy with it when you got it new, then just back up your important data and hard reset it. That will take it back to an as new configuration (with speed to match). I've tried the HTC official Windows Mobile 6.1 'upgrade' for the TyTN II (the HTC branded version of the Tilt) and it was so full of bugs and problems that it's now back running the original WM 6.0 version again. If you rely at all on the GPS functionality of your device, WM 6.0 will likely perform far better (at least it does with mine). Hard reset and see how much it speeds up again. If you need to know how to hard reset it, that's covered in your users manual (at least it is with the TyTN II or here on xdas wiki).
Remember the old adage, if it ain't broke, don't try to fix it
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I agree with the "ain't broke, don't fix it", thus I still have wm6.0. Yes, I use GPS all the time. I also have a lot of 3rd party software that are all customized so I hate having to configure it again. Does hard reset wipe everything?
All the add-ons are likely the cause of the slowdown - are they all NEEDED?
mikeee2 said:
I agree with the "ain't broke, don't fix it", thus I still have wm6.0. Yes, I use GPS all the time. I also have a lot of 3rd party software that are all customized so I hate having to configure it again. Does hard reset wipe everything?
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Yes it puts it back to exactly like new (except for the total call timers which aren't reset). This is all explained in the wiki (click the link in the brown bar on this website). Whatever you do, if you want all the extra apps you've loaded (probably the cause of the slowdown), you'll still have to reinstall them all anyway so have your install files/media ready.
Although you can make backups of your data, it's always preferable to have your system as lightly loaded for maximum speed so think about whether you really need and use each app before loading it on. If you rely on GPS alot and want to keep an original configuration, if the AT&T setup is anything like the HTC original setup, you're better off with WM 6.0. Test the speed after the hard reset then install each app and test for a day - one at a time, noting down the significant times you'd noticed slowness with under your current setup. This should help to weed out the culprits that hog the most resources.
mikeee2 said:
I agree with the "ain't broke, don't fix it", thus I still have wm6.0. Yes, I use GPS all the time. I also have a lot of 3rd party software that are all customized so I hate having to configure it again. Does hard reset wipe everything?
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Yes, it makes the phone back to " out of the box " settings. You will have to reinstall all your apps. But if you don't up to 6.1 you will be able to use sprite back up, and is it worth it to make your phone zippier ?
Honestly man,
Flash your tilt to the 6.1 stock rom. If it has any issues call customer service and complain until they tell you to go to the warranty depot/send a replacement.
I flashed the official stock rom onto my Tilt when I got it. The battery was always WRONG. It always told me 3 bars unless it was <30%. Also I developed issues with battery life and keeping Time. After some prodding they replaced my phone. My new Tilt is soo awesome, Battery life is on 3 days now with lite-moderate use (turned off 3g), battery is accurate.
himalayasplaya said:
Honestly man,
Flash your tilt to the 6.1 stock rom. If it has any issues call customer service and complain until they tell you to go to the warranty depot/send a replacement.
I flashed the official stock rom onto my Tilt when I got it. The battery was always WRONG. It always told me 3 bars unless it was <30%. Also I developed issues with battery life and keeping Time. After some prodding they replaced my phone. My new Tilt is soo awesome, Battery life is on 3 days now with lite-moderate use (turned off 3g), battery is accurate.
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There's a recommendation for you. Upgrade to 6.1 so that it can crap your phone out. And then you can go through all the hassle of dealing with AT$T warranty and maybe eventually you can get a new ( refurb ) phone out of it.
I'd do it
LOL little did I know I was experiencing issues from a bad flash. I thought wm 6.1 was sucky by default. Not to mention I had dinged up my phone and gotten a nasty screen scratch and one on the front of the phone. All the more incentive to use that warranty. The AT&T warranty is awesome!
Were Tilt's shipping with 6.1 before being replaced by the Fuze, or did you have to update after you bought it? A buddy just bought one and he's a total noob, when it comes to WM. I asked him if it has 6.1 and he doesn't know. I haven't got to play with the phone myself. It is supposedly about 4-5 months old.
Thanks in advance.
Michael95GT said:
Were Tilt's shipping with 6.1 before being replaced by the Fuze, or did you have to update after you bought it? A buddy just bought one and he's a total noob, when it comes to WM. I asked him if it has 6.1 and he doesn't know. I haven't got to play with the phone myself. It is supposedly about 4-5 months old.
Thanks in advance.
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I believe AT$T released 6.1 for the Tilt in August. If he wants to check, just go to Start>settings>system>about and that will tell him which version he has.
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GAHH!! That's it I'm SICK of not being able to send and receive texts from my office since I got my Diamond!
Is there ANY way to update the Radio without re-flashing to a hacked ROM?
I really don't wanna have to re-do all my settings and install my apps again
blackjones said:
GAHH!! That's it I'm SICK of not being able to send and receive texts from my office since I got my Diamond!
Is there ANY way to update the Radio without re-flashing to a hacked ROM?
I really don't wanna have to re-do all my settings and install my apps again
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I don't think so. If there was, we'd all be using it, don't you think?
?? what do you mean where do you live?
I have no problems at all sending and receiving things with original rom and the radio came with this 1.93 version.
Which connection is not good enough for you?
Grtzzzz
tha_rami said:
I don't think so. If there was, we'd all be using it, don't you think?
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Hey, this place moves pretty fast I've been away for 2 weeks so it never hurts to ask...
baraata said:
?? what do you mean where do you live?
I have no problems at all sending and receiving things with original rom and the radio came with this 1.93 version.
Which connection is not good enough for you?
Grtzzzz
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I don't have the 1.93 ROM, my Orange branded beast came with .37 tosh.
Ah well. Looks like its time to take the plunge...
1) do full backup of your diamond using for example SPB Backup.
2) do whatever you need to update radio firmware
3) flash back hacked/cooked ROM you are using now
4) restore backup made in (1)
after that u will exactly the same settings and installed software as before. but with new radio.
blackjones said:
GAHH!! That's it I'm SICK of not being able to send and receive texts from my office since I got my Diamond!
Is there ANY way to update the Radio without re-flashing to a hacked ROM?
I really don't wanna have to re-do all my settings and install my apps again
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Updating RADIO does not alter any settings and does not remove any apps.
Hey, this place moves pretty fast I've been away for 2 weeks so it never hurts to ask...
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Pretty fast? This place is like a rollercoaster on steroids. By now, TouchFLO3D can have custom themes, landscape mode in the Diamond is confirmed and working in Bepe's bElite ROMs and they're working on getting TV-out on the Diamond.
chand4u76 said:
Updating RADIO does not alter any settings and does not remove any apps.
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the process itself does not, but the installation of the needed HARDSPL does.
or isn't it necessary?
Trust me mate, just do it, and you'll have no worries.
I have the same orange phone as you on a .37, and I was apprehensive about flashing the Radio. I understood from this forum that it was ok to do this without upsetting the main ROM, but I was still worried I'd need to start again after all the time I'd spent setting up this little thing.
Anyway, I backed it all up on Sprite just in case, and chucked in hardSPL 1.24. I then flashed in radio .05, and I needn't have worried, it went smooth as silk, and my main ROM was untouched. The procedure seems quite invasive as you're doing it, but don't let it put you off. The ROM Update Utility is not totally clear about what it's doing just as you're about to hit the go button, but if you follow the procedure to the letter, it will all go swimmingly.
I'm now on Dutty's .07 radio, and can say it is an improvement on .05, and it's streets ahead of the old one it came with, especially for GPS.
You have nothing to lose...
Just got the diamond on t-mobile currently:
ROM : 1.37.110.3 WWE
Radio: 1.00.25.03
Prot: 52.26a.25.09U
Id love to get after this stock before flashing with anything else so I can put it back if I need to!
So heres what Ive done so far and whats not great.
Added the manilla black .cabs (why did they boof it all by doing it in pink in the first place!)
Added the missed calls touchflo tab.
A few reg hacks as from this forum - not all.
So far:
- Struggles to connect back up (browser) to 3G after using my wireless connection.
- Sometimes loses the connectio to the network completey and cant reconnect with t-mobile without power down/up
- Start bar dissapears sometimes and needs power down/power up to get it back.
- touch flow is slow sometimes....annoying slow.
- dont get my favourites added to the browser touch flo menu?
Im still getting my head around WM6.1...so other annoyances:
- When I click on a test message in touch flo it goes straight into reply and also with threading....Ive seen the reg edit to diable threading but can you force it to just open the sms from the touch flow screen or does it have to drop straight into reply.
Ive been reading around here for a few days and although I didnt want to flash the beast yet....Im kind of fed up enough to either flash it or send it back. I like some aspects of it...the soft qwerty is ok but leaves you with little room to see anything else and its defo slower that normal keypad.
So Id love to here from people who have had this stock and since flashed something else and would like to tell me how great the phone is now.
Im not so fussed about the t-mobile branding of the browser but it would be nice to be able to get just to opera from the touchflo tab and also my startpage rather than theres..
Ive searched and read a lot - Im after anyone who has seen any of this and also recomendations of fixes including..'flash this it will make you want to keep the puppy'
Its almost brilliant.
I know replying takes time so I appreciate anyone who cares to share with me. Great forum.
neilsupermac999 said:
Just got the diamond on t-mobile currently:
So Id love to here from people who have had this stock and since flashed something else and would like to tell me how great the phone is now.
Im not so fussed about the t-mobile branding of the browser but it would be nice to be able to get just to opera from the touchflo tab and also my startpage rather than theres..
Ive searched and read a lot - Im after anyone who has seen any of this and also recomendations of fixes including..'flash this it will make you want to keep the puppy'
Its almost brilliant.
I know replying takes time so I appreciate anyone who cares to share with me. Great forum.
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I'd say flash it! I had the same device and it seemed slow and buggy to me. I contemplated sending it back and going to the iPhone, but I bit the bullet and flashed Swiftblades ROM. The difference is amazing, everything seems to run that bit smoother and TF3D is now usable. It is a pain having to tweak the device so it fits your needs for some people, but for me that's half the fun!
I've put loads of tweaks and apps on, some good, some not so, and it may be time for a hard reset. What the hell, I may even flash a newer ROM! (Once you've done it once, there'll be no stopping you.... it is nerve wracking the first time mind )
burnso said:
I'd say flash it! I had the same device and it seemed slow and buggy to me. I contemplated sending it back and going to the iPhone, but I bit the bullet and flashed Swiftblades ROM. The difference is amazing, everything seems to run that bit smoother and TF3D is now usable. It is a pain having to tweak the device so it fits your needs for some people, but for me that's half the fun!
I've put loads of tweaks and apps on, some good, some not so, and it may be time for a hard reset. What the hell, I may even flash a newer ROM! (Once you've done it once, there'll be no stopping you.... it is nerve wracking the first time mind )
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Did you manage to get hold of the stock ROM so if it doesnt look good then you can return it back to how it was?
I assume swiftblades rom has the manilla black and all the original HTC diamond touchflo features like youtube and the web browser debranding (i.e. loading opera without all the t-mobile favourite rubbish). Does it also have the favourites from the browser on the t-phone internet tab?
I was also on this ROM when i got my T-Mobile C4 and i can say that even with tweaks it was so awfully slow i was worried that it would continue to be this slow. I finally updated the ROM to Panosha 1.7 (very very very fast & has all the features you need, including t-mobile internet settings) and updated to the .05 ROM which definately improves my 3g & gprs.
In terms of getting the new T-Mobile stock rom, i haven't seen it been published yet but i can imagine it will get dumped and uploaded here very soon as T-Mobile have their Compact IV's back in stock so it's just a matter of time before someone get's hold of one
In terms of bugs and memory leaks in Panosha, there seems to be very few like all the other ROMs and i would say if you're gonna to change to an unsigned ROM, go to this one or Dutty's, because they are pretty much the same!
Hope this helps a little bit, any more questions then just ask
Addicteddddd said:
I was also on this ROM when i got my T-Mobile C4 and i can say that even with tweaks it was so awfully slow i was worried that it would continue to be this slow. I finally updated the ROM to Panosha 1.7 (very very very fast & has all the features you need, including t-mobile internet settings) and updated to the .05 ROM which definately improves my 3g & gprs.
In terms of getting the new T-Mobile stock rom, i haven't seen it been published yet but i can imagine it will get dumped and uploaded here very soon as T-Mobile have their Compact IV's back in stock so it's just a matter of time before someone get's hold of one
In terms of bugs and memory leaks in Panosha, there seems to be very few like all the other ROMs and i would say if you're gonna to change to an unsigned ROM, go to this one or Dutty's, because they are pretty much the same!
Hope this helps a little bit, any more questions then just ask
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Thanks for the info :O) I was actually thinking about getting hold of the current stock rom 1.37.110.3 WWE to revert back if I have some probs. Ive seen today that someone has posted a link and orange have released 1.93.x.x from HTC. Im a bit nervous about flashing but Ive looked at a lot of the guides and read them over...do you just have to flash the rom and radio?
..thenm after hard reset you get a pucker manilla phone minus all you own apps/settings/messages etc.?
yep, just make sure you flash Hard SPL first, searhc around for a program called PimBackup if you want to backup all your contacts/calls/messages etc though message threading doesn't save but that's no biggie!
Addicteddddd said:
yep, just make sure you flash Hard SPL first, searhc around for a program called PimBackup if you want to backup all your contacts/calls/messages etc though message threading doesn't save but that's no biggie!
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Im guessing you dont have a copy of t-mobile stock rom? Im just thinking that should this phone break at some point then without the stock rom then the warranty is probably invalid.....funny because I can find every other stock apart from the t-mobile one Ive got....
I didn't have a copy of the stock ROM, I just went for it. Someone else on the forum reckoned the first thing that happened when it gets sent back is the flash the latest ROM anyway.... it was good enough for me!
The HardSPL means you are unlikely to brick the phone though a dodgy ROM install, so if that goes on OK, you're laughing
I didn't have a copy of the rom at the time, however there are copies at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406327
This is my backup just incase it needs to go back
So...T-Mobile reckon they have a ROM update that will be released 'within the next 2 weeks' according to the support guy I spoke to last night....probably be a 1.93.x.x variant I suppose.
Thats great news....
Only trouble is, they are renowned for all talking utter ****e!
captainsensible2002 said:
Thats great news....
Only trouble is, they are renowned for all talking utter ****e!
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Yep. However orange have just released 1.93.x.x and from the discussion I had they have a lot of unhappy cmpct4 owners and its a flagship handset for them.
They could do them selves a favour and de-brand for us and save themselves some time as well. Id love to know what the guys that decided to do a white and pink TF3D are getting paid to come up with that idea...muppets.
Not sure how this has come about but I used to be able to connect to internet really easily through my work laptop when the TyTn II was connected by either Bluetooth or USB. Now I don't seem to be able to connect to either????
When connecting through USB I seem to be able to connect to the PC via 'Internet Sharing' which also lights up the 'Data Connection' icon but when I try to use IE it just says 'Cannot connect using current settings'. Thing is, I haven't changed anything and it used to work fine. Getting a bit fed up with the whole TyTn II at moment as I seem to spend more time fathoming why it's not doing what I want than doing it. Beginning to think a seperate phone/PDA may be best way ahead.
Unsure of whether the problem is related to the official 6.1 upgrade or the install of NoData (as I got fed up with accidentally hitting the weather and Quick GPS refresh and having the phone eat money).
Regardless of what I try I can't seem to get it to connect to internet albeit phone shows as connected via both Bluetooth or USB.
Short of solving this (and I'm not sure where to start) I'm temted to do a reflash and leave out things like No Data etc etc and just see if it works again. Bit of a nuisance really.
Tried searching all manner of related topics but no joy so far
It is a problem with the WM 6.1 official HTC update
I had exactly the same problem in reverse with my TyTN II when it was running the WM 6.1 (the same official HTC ROM that you have). By 'in reverse' I mean I couldn't initially do internet related things on the TyTN II using my home internet (either via USB or Bluetooth connection). It was fine before but after the upgrade thats when the problem occurred. I didn't have any additional software installed apart from Tomtom Navigator 6.032 (HTC Version) so I don't think your NoData install will be to blame (at least not solely). I did manage to get pocket IE working under these circumstances though after I had a fiddle around in the connections tab under settings - or was it Activesyncs settings.... I could never get the automatic Quick GPS updates to occur though, even under those settings and I still had to manually update (although it did use the home internet connection when I did this).
I remember that I changed a drop down selection from something along the lines of this device is connected to 'Auto' to make it 'The Internet'. Sorry for being so vague but I've now reverted to the original WM 6.0 ROM (more precisely I had HTC do it for free under the warranty) and none of the options I'm looking at now ring any bells. Perhaps someone else recalls more clearly what settings change is required.
I think the most important part of your post is:
Empgamer said:
Getting a bit fed up with the whole TyTn II at moment as I seem to spend more time fathoming why it's not doing what I want than doing it.
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Thats how I felt about the HTC upgrade that wasn't. I was quick to go down the upgrade path but since it's been back with WM 6.0 other than a few uncommanded resets in the first day or two which haven't since reoccured, the device is now rock solid again. Of course it'd be nice to think the latest HTC upgrade didn't introduce more problems than were already present but in my experience their current update is more trouble than it's worth (and you haven't even mentioned GPS). If you decide you want it reverted under warranty, I found the HTC Repair Centre (at least here in the UK) to do a fine job of it. I dropped off my phone in the morning, after booking it in over ther phone the day before and it was ready at the end of the same day.
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If you decide you want it reverted under warranty, I found the HTC Repair Centre (at least here in the UK) to do a fine job of it. I dropped off my phone in the morning, after booking it in over ther phone the day before and it was ready at the end of the same day.
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Or you can always download the original shipped roms here off the wiki and flash it yourself. It only takes about 10 minutes. You dont have to download a special SPL for an OEM rom
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
The spl is an issue - reverting it
pyraxiate said:
Or you can always download the original shipped roms here off the wiki and flash it yourself.
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I was tempted to do that myself (and even asked HTC for the downgrade file to do so) but there are a couple of issues for those of us that like to keep things 'HTC Official'. A big one for me is that since HTC was responsible for creating the buggy WM 6.1 ROM, they should also accept responsibility for fixing it (fat chance of that, I agree with what -888- wrote in the WM 6.0 vs. WM 6.1 thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=432482&page=4 along the lines of the best developers being assigned to the latest and greatest products). If they're not going to fix it, then they should at least revert the device to a reliable state. I was in a fortunate position to be in the area of the HTC Repair Centre but if it means sending the phone away, I understand why some might prefer the DIY option.
It only takes about 10 minutes. You dont have to download a special SPL for an OEM rom
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There's alot to digest about ROM (and Radio and spl) flashing in the wiki and that takes much more than 10 mins. Although a special spl such as hardSPL isn't used with the HTC official setups, the spl does need to be reverted from the 3.28 version with the official WM 6.1 WWE, back to a 1.xx version with WM 6.0 for proper functioning. That isn't just a simple case of running the RUU program like the upgrade to WM 6.1 was - it has to be manually reverted (presumably using something like jumpSPL and the procedure in the wiki for restoring a device for warranty purposes) so it gets more complicated. I was expecting spl version something along the lines of 1.56 on my WM 6.0 setup (to match the ROM numbers) but they installed 1.93, presumably because it was more reliable or offered other performance benifits. Perhaps the ideal spl is in the package already but again this cant just be run like the WM 6.1 upgrade was so there's some jiggery pokery involved
I tend to agree. Not sure why I really bothered with 6.1. One of the first things I did was use Kaiser Tweaks to turn threaded SMS off.
I didn't realise that reverting to WM 6.0 would require more than reflashing so that makes it a little more problematic. I'm not near a HTC Centre. The whole device certainly seems more buggy under 6.1 than it did before and this internet through laptop problem is a nuisance. Being fairly unimpressed with Co-Pilot I don't use GPS that much and, withe the aside that i think I've used the keyboard twice since I had it (another 'essential' I'd put on my list for phone/PDA attributes), I'm beginning to wonder if return to factor state and sell it might not be the better option, reverting to a Nokia E51 and Ipaq 214 Enterprise combination
Post is an option.
Empgamer said:
I'm beginning to wonder if return to factor state and sell it might not be the better option, reverting to a Nokia E51 and Ipaq 214 Enterprise combination
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Of course it's up to you but don't forget that even though you may not be near a HTC Repair Centre, you could still call them up on the phone to make the booking and post the device to them once you've arranged to have it reverted. They should do it for free but confirm this so you don't get any unpleasant surprises.
I've had my Tilt running pretty smoothly on the stock firmware since I bought it over the summer (camera stopped working, but that's a different story). Anyway, I did a backup this morning (SPB Backup), and after the reboot I couldn't get a voice signal. If I pushed the phone button, nothing would happen! Now here's the weird thing: I'm able to get a data connection (was able to get new email), but the phone icon still says no service. Has anybody experienced this before, or know of any fixes? I've soft-booted a few times, but didn't want to hard boot if there was a simpler way.
And yes I did search this entire forum for similar posts, but didn't find any.
Thanks in advance!
have you tried a different SIM from a different operator?
you might want to try a different SIM from a different operator just to be sure your SIM and/or operator is not the problem.
if it works with another SIM, you can be fairly certain that it is NOT a hardware issue...in which case, a hard reset will more than likely resolve your problem.
also, are you able to receive incoming calls? what kind of a message does the caller get in case your phone doesn't even wake up and ring? finally, have you tested sms text messaging? try sending a message to someone and also try to receive an sms text message from someone...these little steps will help you confirm whether or not you are experiencing a hardware issue...in which case you might want to consider having it checked/fixed under warranty.
keep searching...cheers !!!
Happened to me once. I tried everything, but didn't work. If it's under warranty, AT&T will replace it. I went through 3 units in the 11 months I owned tilt.
hmmm have you tried flashing another Radio? (don't know what happened to your camera, but if you've got cam & phone issues, it's worth checking the Radio...
It's happened to me twicw also. This is an SPB Backup quirk. I'm afraid a hard reset is all that's left to do.
Well,
first of check if you're connecting to the correct network AT&T and not accidently logged on to the T-Mobile network - perform a manual network search / selection on your device.
If the above step does not help, try to restore your device with the SPB Backup you made. If that also does not work, well, then ... yeah ... hard reset! I would not really consider a RADIO FLASH on your device since it semmed to be working fine for you before that?
Thanks for everyone's suggestions. I tried doing a full restore of the latest backup (that morning), and that seemed to bring back the phone functionality. However, the restore also eliminated a few of my main programs, which was very weird! So, I did a full restore from the previous backup and tested that one out. Everything was like it should be. Then I did a restore of the latest backup's tasks/appointments (only things that changed), and now I'm back to full operation
As a side question, since I'm running WM 6.0 and want to flash to 6.1, would I be able to do a full restore from SPB Backup... or would that be incompatible with the upgraded OS?
You won't be able to perform a FULL RESTORE. There are a couple of changes in WM6.1, so, just to be on the save side I would suggest that you back up your PIM data, then flash to 6.1, restore your PIM data and reinstall all of your application.
BTW:
I was running WM6.1 on my MWg Zinc II and couldn't find any real advantages other than THREADED SMS. The Pocket IE gets a whole bunch of new bugs (for example Frames in websites are not shown or not shown correctly) and experienced a couple of incompatibilities with 3rd-party software application. If you still want to take a chance, good luck! However, I do not believe that you can go back to WM6.0 once you flash to 6.1!
I wouldn't upgrade to 6.1 if you're running SPB software. I was running 6.1 without problems, then loaded SPB Phone Suite, Diary, and Pocket Plus, and suddenly Garmin XT couldn't locate satellites at all. It took several hard and soft resets, and a visit to the SPB forums to realize that 6.1 could be the culprit, and it was. All problems disappeared with 6.0. There was a post at the SPB forums that *seemed* to indicate that SPB apps hadn't been fully tested--they may have used the word "certified"--with 6.1. Good luck.
No, that's not it -- I'm running the latest versions of all of those SPB titles on a stock 6.1 with no problems.
i have no spb apps on this one and i have the problem...it just can't fix the network
it happened few days ago to a guy that isn't quite familiar with ppcs he somehow turned it off and when he turned it on he couldn't get the network...eventually he hooked up after half a day (i'm not sure for how long did this problem last because i don't know does he use soft reset and flight mode)...so i took the kaiser to test it and to see what happened..i messed with flight mode and SR it couldn't find the net at all
tried wm6 and two wm6 radios
tried wm6.1 and two wm6.1 radios
i'll try android...just to test the module itself..if there are any hardware issues
Hi Everyone...
I have had mt HTC 8925 (AT&T Tilt Branded) for well over a year... I use this phone daily and love it... I have never flashed a new rom to it since I flashed the most updated at the time AT&T stock rom that was out the day I got it... It is still running on WM 6.0 and is great for the most part... Only real modification was I did the reset trick to advoid the bloatware... After trying MANY programs, some I liked & kept... others I removed... I have finally run into a snag where I am willing to flash and start over to fix the issue (my tomtom traffic won't update anymore, and after much trouble shooting, TomTom and myself think I need to "Reset the Tilt to factory settings" or flash it to a new rom... I was hoping to get some advice from you guys to which rom should suite me best... Here are some details..
The phone is unlocked, and I use Einstein Wireless for service... so I do not need AT&T or Tmobile settings on there, and I prefer no hidden proxies or anything... I will manually enter my carriers internet and mms settings..
I use a lot of WiFi as my providors internet service is slower than I would like
I use it as a GPS (with TomTom) almost daily...
I installed the HTC Home Plugin and love it with the weather updates.. would like to have that incorperated with whatever rom
The radio version on stock rom works great for me.. so something when paired to do simmilar settings on that ?
I use the S2P, S2V2, and S2V .... So I can install those or if any rom has them in it...
I have a good sized micro SD (8gb at the moment) so I tend to install jsut about everything onto the SD card.. maybe a rom where that is the defautl location or something ?
I use MS Voice Command daily...
I play games on it regularly.. love works, ka-blom, pac man, emulators, and others...
I use wireless BT2.0 stereo headphones for MP3's and such
I stream music and video from my home computer using orb
I have used IE Mobile, Skyfire, and other browsers.. I jsut want one that works well...
I love an iContact (or type) contact program
As you probalyl guessed, I like it to be as finger friendly in general as possible...
I have used a few programs so I can use the phone as a webcam when connected via USB to my computer, woudl be great if it has that built in as well
MMS/SMS managing software would be great.. I usually keep recent txt's for a while after receiving them... something that say only keep them til you have a certain amount or after a certian amount of time passes would be great....
Of course, I would also like the rom to be very stable as well if that isn;t too much to ask..
I am open to trying to some programs/features that I have not used before... and I don't expect any rom to do everything I have listed above... The main thing will be to get one that I can set up the internet easy enough without having to worry about hidden settigns for AT&T or other such carrier... If you have been using a rom that you really liked that you think would work for me, let me know... Thank you in advance for reading this and sending me you suggestions....
Teej53214 said:
Hi Everyone...
I have had mt HTC 8925 (AT&T Tilt Branded) for well over a year... I use this phone daily and love it...
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So let me get this right.... You have a standard Tilt, minus the bloatware which you're happy with (and have been) until TomTom stopped working with traffic updates. You're now considering changing the ROM to fix the problem Why not just hard reset after backing up your stuff and do the bloatware free reset trick again? Oh and mods don't like 'ROM Recommendation' type threads (read some of the sticky posts to see why) so if people post saying ROM x is better than y, this thread will probably be locked to stop any arguments breaking out. Also TomTom will be less likely to offer support with cooked ROMs - I was told they wouldn't even support a HTC Default WM 6.1 ROM, only the WM 6.0 ROM the device (and TomTom) came with (one of the reasons why I had my device reverted to WM 6.0). Good luck with your hard reset
+1 on the real issue being Tom Tom traffic, as you seem pretty happy with use and your exisiting configuration. I'd try to find a WiFi hotspot (where Tom Tom can also see satellites) and see if Traffic will update via WiFi. Could be Einstein is blocking Tom Tom traffic over GPRS.
still new to the kaiser/tilt/tytn II, etc(less than a week) so not in a position to really give any real advice, but what helped me in my decision is reading through PureSkillz reviews of the roms and seaching with google outside of xda to see what people are using and that helped me with my decision, T-mobile sux in about every way, so if it is good on T-mobile it'll probably be good on anything else. What I had a hard time on is choosing the right radio for my device but luckily the rom i chose allowed me to use whatever radio i wanted and I am happy with my setup and don't plan to change unless something radical happens in the scene. I am running Tomtom 7 on my rom and it works perfect, but i dont have internet via my provider cause they charge way too much so i use wifi. the one thing i don't like about this rom is lack of landscape support but hey, cant complain if i'm not smart enough to cook my own stuff.
see my choice in my sig below. Aloha
Thanks... It isnl;t an einstein blocking issue.. I already tried the WiFi... The problem started right after I installed igo GPS program to compair the 2... I have since uninstalled igo, but tomtom still wont; connect to traffic.. I talked ot them at tomtom.. they were very frienmdly with troubleshooting.. went htough a million steps.. even gave me an additional free year of traffic as well for the problem, even though it isn;t their fault...
Thank you... I read that... and thought I woudl advoid those "argument" because I wasn;t trying to ask "What is the best rom"... I was trying to ask what rom would work the easiest for me in my unique situation ? That is why I listed how I use to and what software I use... But thanks for the input... I considered just doing the hard reset.... I just thought if now I am wiping my phone and starting over, which rom would give me added advantages...
And on the TomTom not working with 6.1..... My son bought a phone like mine after he saw me using it so much.. when he got his (After me) we grabbed the newest offical rom form HTC's site (he actually uses AT&T prepay, so the AT&T software is ok for him).. It was WM 6.1 and his TomTom software works fine.... So don;t let that stop you from using 6.1
I have downloaded the Athine OS WM 6.5 Final as well as the Hyper Dragan III from Christmas day, 08 as many people reccomened... I have to decide between them now... You have any experiance with either?
Flying Kiwi said:
So let me get this right.... You have a standard Tilt, minus the bloatware which you're happy with (and have been) until TomTom stopped working with traffic updates. You're now considering changing the ROM to fix the problem Why not just hard reset after backing up your stuff and do the bloatware free reset trick again? Oh and mods don't like 'ROM Recommendation' type threads (read some of the sticky posts to see why) so if people post saying ROM x is better than y, this thread will probably be locked to stop any arguments breaking out. Also TomTom will be less likely to offer support with cooked ROMs - I was told they wouldn't even support a HTC Default WM 6.1 ROM, only the WM 6.0 ROM the device (and TomTom) came with (one of the reasons why I had my device reverted to WM 6.0). Good luck with your hard reset
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