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I see new apps pop up everyday, but how come there haven't been any new widgets yet?
I had a great idea for an alternative to the Google search widget, but I can't find the code for it to work off of. Does anyone have any insight they can share on how or where I can get it?
I liked the idea of the widgets, but after a few days I removed both of them. It just took up to much room on my display. there is already a digital clock, why is a analog one needed too. And my home page is google, so why do I need it on my home screen. Once they come out with useful ones I may try again. But now they just are not needed for me.
Sorry its a bit off topic, but thats always bugged me.
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Once they come out with useful ones I may try again.
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That's the gist of what I was getting at. I hate the analog clock too, and the Google one is almost just as useless. There is a lot of potential, but I'd hate to see a rash of useless ones like some of the apps currently in the market.
You know what would be nice, if you can download a widget that is used on igoogle. there are a lot of cool/useful ones there.
They havent released the SDK for widgets yet. Soon as they do im sure you will see many tip calculator widgets.
I want a weather widget! I would love to see the weather for today and 2 days into the future just like my old Hermes did.
the week before the G1 came out, Android Community was teeming with app and widget ideas. I roposed a weather widget similar to the weather tab on TouchFLO 3D. Instead of having the 3D weather overlay on a blank black screen, the weather would overlay on top of the desktop, making it look liek the weather is happening inside your phone. Imagine your screen getting frost on it from the inside, rain drops dripping down your screen, blurring out your icons, snow blowing across stick to the screen and making snow drifts when it hits your icons.
ok back on topic.
Once the SDK is released there will be a swarm of widgets popping up on the market, but there's definitely going to be some rel crappy things out there, just like apps and games..
I never use one of my screens I would love a weather on to utilize that full window.
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Once the SDK is released there will be a swarm of widgets popping up on the market, but there's definitely going to be some rel crappy things out there, just like apps and games..
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You forgot crappy themes lol
might be awhile for widgets, the widget SDK required root access, so they have to pretty much redo the majority of it before they can release it since they don't want anyone to have root access...dunno if that's Google's decision or T-Mobile's.
That's gotta be tmobile doing that. Google's all about open source right?
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the week before the G1 came out, Android Community was teeming with app and widget ideas. I roposed a weather widget similar to the weather tab on TouchFLO 3D. Instead of having the 3D weather overlay on a blank black screen, the weather would overlay on top of the desktop, making it look liek the weather is happening inside your phone. Imagine your screen getting frost on it from the inside, rain drops dripping down your screen, blurring out your icons, snow blowing across stick to the screen and making snow drifts when it hits your icons.
ok back on topic.
Once the SDK is released there will be a swarm of widgets popping up on the market, but there's definitely going to be some rel crappy things out there, just like apps and games..
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can we please put that from fiction into reality????!!!! That would be amazing. Another strike against these cocky iphone owners... (only envy from me )
Maybe an own thread - wishlist- app???
there is an app on the market called steamy window. Maybe a good start to combine with a weather app?
I could (for the most part) care less about cupcake's offerings. I want some of the "behind the scenes" stuff to help smooth out the OS, but the flashy stuff I could care less about. Widgets, in my opinion, are the only eye candy I could use or want....
I wonder if it will even be possible to create without root access since it needs to push/pull info from the main application.
My first thought when having the G1, was if they plan to include widgets at some point (which I bet they do), then will they allow us more than 3 homescreens? I mean, the google widgets themselves take up valuable realestate!
I don't get it, why do you say "when the sdk will be released", you mean a total new version of the sdk ?
And why can't we now, develop widget, we just have to look how the google search widget was done and realise some widget.
And yes, the htc meteo interface is really amazing, if someone realise something like that for android, it will be awesome
dxTop, aHome, or Open Home? Which To Choose!
Alright well, I've been messing around with all 3 since their appearances in the market, but yet to pick up a copy of a full version yet before I pick one to stick with.
dxTop:
- I like the idea of how the screens move, but I do really like the idea of static pages.
- Can't really use skins on them yet, so that's another deterrent.
- Supports icons with bettercut
aHome:
- I do like its widget styles, but it has no support with bettercut, so thats my number one con.
- I like the idea of up to 10 screens, but as of right now it doesn't arrange icons automatically, so when you download new apps they will be out of place...screw reorganized 50 icons just to get 1 in there.
Open Home:
- Now this one I'm really starting to like. They give a simple way to install some of the greatest themes from our beloved developers here at xda, and my favorite, mannyb
- Has 6 screens (and im going to guess that an option will be added later on to include more)
- Has auto-rotate enabled by default, another nice addition.
- supports bettercut
As of right now I'm for Open Home, even though its only in beta right now so I'm excited to see the additions of the pro version. What are the rest of your thoughts? Maybe some of you know more about some of these apps if you're running the pro/paid version.
I have paid for 2 and ran all 3, open home all the way man! They have done it the right way, 6 screens, numbered, skins by theme developers on xda and bettercut! Oh and it remembers which screen you set as main one. For instance i set all my main icons-apps and clock on screen 2 and every time i leave it on screen 2 to go browse when i come back to home goes right back to screen i had left it on. So as far as wallpaper is concerned works perfectly, simply pick which screen wallpaper looks best on and make it your home page. Plus no scrolling up and down just side to side, auto rotate.
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I have paid for 2 and ran all 3, open home all the way man! They have done it the right way, 6 screens, numbered, skins by theme developers on xda and bettercut! Oh and it remembers which screen you set as main one. For instance i set all my main icons-apps and clock on screen 2 and every time i leave it on screen 2 to go browse when i come back to home goes right back to screen i had left it on. So as far as wallpaper is concerned works perfectly, simply pick which screen wallpaper looks best on and make it your home page. Plus no scrolling up and down just side to side, auto rotate.
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Well I'm with ya man, open home all the way thus far. How did you set the "home" screen number? Mine was just 2 by default, how do I change it? I didn't really see a preference or option for it.
Ok edit i see what people are saying in market, it should have option to save a certain page as main. Mine started on 2 when i rebooted, kind of annoying not to be able to set main page as wallpaper looks funky on page 2. Have you been able to change icons with bettercut successfully yet? When im using open home it just deletes icons doesnt change them
I just got the new update, noticed they have 7 screens now, and my default is 4 now (middle). Booyah, just what I was looking for
Hell yeah me too, this is awesome!!!
So open home is all side scrolling? No up & down like dxtop? And it allows you to set which screen is the home screen?
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So open home is all side scrolling? No up & down like dxtop? And it allows you to set which screen is the home screen?
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I'm not sure about setting the home screen, by default now it is the middle screen. I don't know about changing it.
Its side scolling, they set screen 4 as default so now there is a fixed default screen. If your on screen 7 and want to go back to main u swipe up or down and it goes back to main. Im talking with author about bettercut it seems to delete icons when u try and change them with open home
open home "lite" means demo or just light?
After reading this thread I immediately decided to try it. It is not bad, but the "themes" are misleading. The only thing that gets themed is the app drawer handle, and widgets (clock and search). I was hoping for a notification theme without a flash. I will see how this app progresses and keep it in mind with the other 2 home screen replacements.
Dxtop : that tab bar just the reason make me not using it.
Open home : Like the idea but the theme? cmon u can change the top bar, which is the main idea.
So im going with Ahome. i personnally like it, love the dock, and not seeing the tab bar is the deal for me. (I dont use alot of app so it a very good idea for me)
Well seriously, i think here is the perfect app for homescreen :
- 4 screen, diamond shape ( similar to Dxtop )
- No tab bar, but u still can go to tab bar by the original way (pull up from the bottom) u just dont see the bar thingy anymore.
- Both widget from ahome + dxtop put together and have to be free
- "iphone style" dock, for 4 app (similar to ahome)
- Work with bettercut!
If there is the app like this, i willing to pay up to 15$ for it for real even that is alot money for me lol
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Dxtop : that tab bar just the reason make me not using it.
Open home : Like the idea but the theme? cmon u can change the top bar, which is the main idea.
So im going with Ahome. i personnally like it, love the dock, and not seeing the tab bar is the deal for me. (I dont use alot of app so it a very good idea for me)
Well seriously, i think here is the perfect app for homescreen :
- 4 screen, diamond shape ( similar to Dxtop )
- No tab bar, but u still can go to tab bar by the original way (pull up from the bottom) u just dont see the bar thingy anymore.
- Both widget from ahome + dxtop put together and have to be free
- "iphone style" dock, for 4 app (similar to ahome)
- Work with bettercut!
If there is the app like this, i willing to pay up to 15$ for it for real even that is alot money for me lol
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Haha, that's funny because the absense of the app drawer is the dealbreaker for me!
I have like 60 apps installed because I symlinked /data/app so it's near impossible to find what I'm looking for. I think that they should make the app drawer still there, but invisible like some of the themes here.
I LOVE Open Home. I have tried all 3. dxTop is alright. I tried it when it was in demo (when if first came out) but it was too confusing. Plus I worked really hard to find the theme that I really liked (fade to blue). aHome was alright... but I have over 150 apps installed so that was an issue. Open Home is perfect because it's simple that expands the 3 screens to 7 and supports the hard work of the theme developers. Let's be honest. I would be a little upset if I worked for countless hours to develop an awsome theme lke fadetoblue so an "perfect" home screen substitute can come along that everyone downloads and find that no one uses the theme anymore. Kudos to the developer! Now let's see some widgets!
Maybe just a thought for the developer though. I would like it if it could go from screen 7 back to 1 by going right. 1>2>3>4>5>6>7>1>2>... etc. Just a thought.
i think i prefer dxtop- i like being only 1 swipe/action away from any screen. i have tried open home and would like it more if there was a shortcut to jump to certain screens. i think 7 would get to confusing remembering where i was and where i was going....
i think there is a place for all 3- they r all different enough to each have their own following and be successful.
aHome for me....i love the feature of your top 4 apps scroll with any screen you are on.
3 screens, enough for me.
weather widget, LOVE it.
ive downloaded all 3 and use all 3..i like a little variety so i swap them up every now and then..i like all 3 apps, they all have something different. to me it seems DxTop loads and refreshes the home page faster than all the others.. i do like the docked 4 icons from aHome and the widgets are nice as well. and the theme support from Open Home is nice as well. personally i prefer DxTop since it does load faster than the other 2, and 1 swipe away from everything is nice. aHome just takes way too long to load the home page and force closes when the back button is used..ohh..and no bettercut icons is a downer also..fix the speed of loading, the force closes, and BetterCut usage on aHome and i think it would easily be the best on the G1 to date.
Im stuck between Openhome and DXtop. DXtop because of the widgets and the up and down action. But openhome has themes and 7 screen.
dxTop, definitely for me. The other two are basically iphone rip offs and I'm a firm believer that it's silly have your phone look like something it isn't. Besides, why anyone would want 10 pages of icons comepletely confounds me. I love how dxTop is compeletely "out of the box" thinking. It's simple in concept and executed well. I do wish it had better widgets though. Really? 10 pages? I have about 100 apps installed and I have about 8 or 9 that I need/want on the home pages... the iphone paradigm is SO cluttered looking. blech.
dxTop FTW!
sorry i love dxtop, i can get to any of my four screens in ONE swipe of the finger, two desktops were enough for me before but i decided that is i was gonna pay for an app it would be one developed my a fellow XDA member. i love having wo menu tabs, one full of programs run since last boot, and the rest of my apps.
i have 85 apps installed, i can't find a damn thing on my regular tab, and my folders are set up and when i boot i just run the programs out of the folders till the regular apps i use get into the other tab. PLUS dxtop color coordinates the runing apps vs. the apps in background vs. closed apps. i love being able to see what is running at any point in time, the second tab is like a task manager.and i have Close Everything installed so i can just shut down apps when i need to. there is no need for more tha 4 desktops till more *free* widgets come out.
I was just wondering if there was any way to make a dock to replace the normal rosie phone menu and add buttons. I have been using dxtop which is my favorite because of the 5 button dock and didnt know if anyone else had thought of this.
Im sure someone else would use something like this. I know I could just use dxtop but then I cant use the rosie widgets right?
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Im sure someone else would use something like this. I know I could just use dxtop but then I cant use the rosie widgets right?
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No DXtop won't let you use Rosie widgets. Someone asked about this with Launcher.apk before.
First of all it would require a complete re-write of the app, witch is possible with the launcher, but we don't have the source code to Rosie. Not saying it's impossible, but it's going to take even more work than the regular launcher.
How would you launch the app tray if there's no bar at the bottom?
The bar isn't nearly as tall as and icon and the text beneath it. This means it's going to have to push all the other icons up (which would be hard to code) and wouldn't look very good as they would no longer be equally spaced out.
Just .02, I wouldn't count on it ever happening tbh.
Ya I know you cant use it like that I was just thinking it could have a dock instead of the buttons and to bring up the menu you could drag the dock up or long press menu sorta like dxtop. Why do you say that you dont think it will ever happen? I dont know anything about coding but if they could replace the tray in launcher how hard would it be to do something like this in rosie? Would I be better off just using dxtop on hero and looking for widgets that I like?
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Why do you say that you dont think it will ever happen? I dont know anything about coding but if they could replace the tray in launcher how hard would it be to do something like this in rosie?
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You misunderstood my post. They haven't replaced the tray in the regular launcher, I was just saying that someone asked me about that.
The reason it would be easier to do this in the regular launcher is because we have the source code for it, we can modify it as we wish and recompile it. We don't have the source code to Rosie, so we can't do jack with it. Sorry, but it's pretty much impossible.
Oh ok I get you now. Do you think there its possible that they will ever release the sdk for rosie?
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Oh ok I get you now. Do you think there its possible that they will ever release the sdk for rosie?
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No, never. Sense UI was created by HTC, it's the selling point of the Hero, if they release the source code other manufacturers could ship with Sense UI. So they would loose the unique selling point and potentially a lot of business. It might be leaked some day (it's no secret that HTC's got more holes than a freakin' sieve), but by then there will probably be something more jaw-dropping than Sense UI
Ya, that makes sense I guess I will just stick with dxtop for my dock then. I really dont use many widgets anyway the only reason I want to use hero is for the flash browser and because I like the dialer and a few other things better.
does anyone know of an app/modification (metamorph?) that will allow us to "dock" some apps so that they are accessible in every screen?
not like a widget that pops up a carousel (like some apps offer)...
i mean more like the "star" of favourite apps/docked apps that is accessible on every screen in open home..for those of you who have used it
it's to the far right on every home screen, you swipe the star and you have like 6 apps (or so) accessible....
any ideas? thanks!
Anderwebs ADW launcher sounds like something you are looking for:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=645550
HelixLauncher also does this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=645683
I would have to say that Anderwebs launcher is quite superior to helix in performance, but they are both great launchers.
Thanks for the quick replies!
Helixlauncher almost looks like a home replacement from the descriptions...
I do want to keep my regular home app..since it has 9 screens
I just wanted to add the two main things I liked from alternate home apps
I.e., the app dock...and if I can find it, a way to "name" each home screens, on the bottom, next to the app drawer icon...
I'll test out the first option to see if it has an app dock without modifying my app drawer icon, hehe
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Thanks for the quick replies!
Helixlauncher almost looks like a home replacement from the descriptions...
I do want to keep my regular home app..since it has 9 screens
I just wanted to add the two main things I liked from alternate home apps
I.e., the app dock...and if I can find it, a way to "name" each home screens, on the bottom, next to the app drawer icon...
I'll test out the first option to see if it has an app dock without modifying my app drawer icon, hehe
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Helix can have 9 screens too.
Hehe..thanks...but I guess I'll just stick to keeping my most used apps on the main screen and if I am on screen 9 and need to get to screen 5, I'll just hit the "home" button again, hehe
But I do have another modding question...I am kind of highjacking my own thread,hehe
is there a way to add the "dots" that indicate which screen you are on to either side of the app drawer icon? (Like screen 5 would have 4 little dots on each side?)
...or failing that, a way to label each screen? (Apps, games, etc...)
I saw one app that did this...but it had horrible reviews...so any app or personal way to modify it would be great...thanks again!
Definitely try out the ADW launcher... it has more customizer than even you would know what to do with!
http://www.jbthemes.com/anderweb/adwlauncher.html
it does look/sound good...
however, if you have to install it the same way you flash a rom, i don't think i can do it as my bootloader is locked...(telus milestone)
any instructions on the actual "flashing" part? the only ones i see is to change the zip file to "update.zip" and apply it from recovery mode, but it says invalid signature when i do that and then does nothing...
or can i just install the launch.apk file in the zip?
LauncherPro is faster than ADW.
It's just that you can't set your own app dock, there's one provided for you, it's shortcuts to Phone, Contacts, Messaging and the Browser.
Helix can have 9 screens too.
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How the hello do you do that??? I can only do 7?!?!
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i don't want to modify any of the actual settings i already have..i like the way my phone is customized...
therefore, i'd like ADW if you can really pick and choose nearly every item you can implement...this would be best
also, as a sidenote, does anyone know how to flash it to the milestone?
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i don't want to modify any of the actual settings i already have..i like the way my phone is customized...
therefore, i'd like ADW if you can really pick and choose nearly every item you can implement...this would be best
also, as a sidenote, does anyone know how to flash it to the milestone?
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if you're looking for some serious customization, look for sweeter home on the internet. it's in beta (for like 1 1/2 years now) so it's not on the market but i had fun fooling around w/it. it's basically a home replacement app that you design yourself from the ground up. kinda steep learning curve at first but you can always download someone else's theme and keep it or even tweek it how you like. there's even forums too if you need help.
http://www.sweeterhome.com/
maybe i'm way off target, just thought it would interest you
thanks, i'll check it out...
but i wasn't originally looking for a home replacement..i had open home before (and this one might be better) and I just didn't like the "bulk" of having an extra home app
thanks again though, i'll still give it a shot, hehe
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thanks, i'll check it out...
but i wasn't originally looking for a home replacement..i had open home before (and this one might be better) and I just didn't like the "bulk" of having an extra home app
thanks again though, i'll still give it a shot, hehe
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ADWLauncher has tons of extra features, and they're all toggle-able. If you don't like the dock, turn it off in settings. Want more screens? Settings. Want the Galaxy S drawer? Settings. Want the home screens to scroll faster? Settings.
hehe
i know
but the problem is i can't find a way to flash it on the milestone...
i'm looking for a tutorial or someone that has successfully flashed anything to the milestone =-\
truthlesshero said:
hehe
i know
but the problem is i can't find a way to flash it on the milestone...
i'm looking for a tutorial or someone that has successfully flashed anything to the milestone =-\
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You should be able to just push this to /system/app/
http://www.mediafire.com/?ngktjtvemoy
JAguirre1231 said:
You should be able to just push this to /system/app/
http://www.mediafire.com/?ngktjtvemoy
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i just push it to that directory and run it or install it?
i tried just running it as an install file and it doesn't install...=-\
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i just push it to that directory and run it or install it?
i tried just running it as an install file and it doesn't install...=-\
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You can now download adw.launcher from the market for an easy install
I may be way off-base here but my wife is using "Open home" on her Cliq (because she couldn't stand MotoBlur's ugly UI) and it has everything that you're looking for: Number of screens, workspace labels, dock, dots, etc) and it seems like it's running OK on her phone. I know that it's a "replacement" home but it shouldn't be a problem on the phone with some spare RAM (i.e. any phone except for G1 and original MT3G)
Good luck.
I've searched the 'net, I've looked at every crappy icon pack in the market, and I absolutely cannot find an icon pack that I am satisfied with.
Basically what I'm looking for are solid (non-transparent) versions of the LauncherPro icons, or icons that are identical (one solid color with no transparency or shadowing) so that I can edit them to my liking.
I've got decent photoshopping skills, but I've tried goofing around with the LauncherPro icons to no avail, I can't get them looking quite right.
Recommendations would be MUCH appreciated!
I assume you mean the application icons, in the applications list? Are you able to provide a screenshot of one you tried to edit (before or after)?
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I assume you mean the application icons, in the applications list? Are you able to provide a screenshot of one you tried to edit (before or after)?
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Sorry, I lost track and didn't subscribe. I'm just talking about the stock Launcher Pro Dock icons, sort of.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_QW_TxAceC5s/TE9aehXkHII/AAAAAAAAALs/K7-BOibp9DM/s1600/snap20100727_155713.png
See the ones at the bottom? Like that, basically.
I See What You Mean.
Someone should release a vector version of those icons. :/
Wrong post. I'm dumb.
I know what you mean. I always find great icons, but they don't look right in the dock. They're made too small and look bad.
Here you go: http://www.iconfinder.com/browse
There are currently 760 full icon sets in there as I type this, all free, some for even commercial use, which allow you to download in .png or .ico format. You can even search for individual replacements for icons as well.
Happy hunting!
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