msn IM new Question - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm having the same problem detailed in the followin post
"Unable to sign in to the MSN service. Please try again later.
(Detail: Sorry, the phone number cannot be read from your SIM card. Please contact your Operator for help.)"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=447101&highlight=messenger
though! I can't use meebo or other software since they don't recognize my installed modded local fonts.
for some great reason the device basic im does!
so I realy need to use it. google talk works great but I have less use for it..
only msn messenger seems to have a problem with my sim (why does it care so much?!?!). on the wifi every thing works great.
isn't there a work around? anywhere? some mod ? please? thanks!

If I'm correctly informed, MSNing from the G1 with Google Talk use SMS to send the text, not the real MSN way. So it's meebo or nothing, it seems. Unless your plan includes unlimited free SMS, it sounds like an expensive way to do messaging...
/Mats

Thanks but nope.
MSN does not use SMS to send txt if you have a DATA plan like 3G GPRS or EDGE.
I used it frequantly with RC30 with no extra billing. I miss it allot
meebo doesn't work for me (with my modded local fonts) cant read or write..
Just need someone who knows andorid code. with my problem and can check droid sans RC30 patch code and see what they did on it and make an RC33 compatible patch
they wont relaese an RC33 patch.
http://www.droidsans.com/content/MSN-with-non-T-Mobile-G1

clubber2k said:
Thanks but nope.
MSN does not use SMS to send txt if you have a DATA plan like 3G GPRS or EDGE.
I used it frequantly with RC30 with no extra billing. I miss it allot
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Sorry, but I'm pretty certain you are wrong!
The standard IM client *does* use SMS messages for IM traffic for all protocols other than Gtalk, *unless* you are connected via WiFi.
I have a US phone with a UK T-Mobile SIM card - I can connect to MSN over WiFi without issue, but when I disconnect from WiFi and try to use a "cellular" data connection, I get the same message about not being able to read the phone number from the SIM card.
Regards,
Dave

First of, if you get the error msg and cant use it, how are you so certin it will use sms to send the message ??
secound, I'm not a T-mobile user. I use the phone in Israel, using a sim-free phone with an ORANGE sim. I used the phone with msn for a month on msn chat so I know my local carrier does not charge me for the messaging.
I'm starting to think this all was a google/t-mobile concpiracy to make people use gtalk on the one hand and pay sms bills to tmobile on the other. when people were angrey to see the bill google decided to block the msn software on rc33 with 3g.
anyway sansandroid said they will release an rc33 patch (hope they can) asap.
so my hopes are with them now..

clubber2k said:
First of, if you get the error msg and cant use it, how are you so certin it will use sms to send the message ??
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I can't use it *now*. When I bought the phone, I was in the US using a US T-Mobile SIM and it worked then. This was on RC29, and later RC30.
Google has also confirmed that it doesn't work without a US T-Mobile SIM (http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1330#c2)
Regards,
Dave

Related

Tilt: Viewmymessage.com

Heya.
I did a little research and finally noticed that I would never get picture messages, and I heard this is a problem with the Iphone as well. But i figure with the Tilt I should be fine. Why do my picture messages not work and it directs me towards ATT's Viewmymessage.com website? Any help? Thanks everyone! -Jeff
The iPhones does not have mms capability, but the Tilt does. You should check with AT&T if everything is correctly provisioned in their system. I have a Tilt and I get picture messages fine.
Hope this helps!
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Jeff,
Do you know what type of messages are being sent that you cannot receive? MMS, email, other? I have no idea what viewmymessage.com is but on the front page it says...
If you received a text message directing you to this site, then someone has sent you a multimedia message.
To view your message, enter the personal password that was included in your text message.
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When you try that does it work?
I have AT&T also and have gotten MMS messages from Verizon and AT&T users without an issue. Maybe this viewmymessage.com service is related to where the message is originating from?
Hello.
I thought is was because of their service providers as well, but I've tried with people from T-mobile, Verizon and ATT and I always received the message without the pic..
It's a MMS, so it's a picture within a txt. I was reading online how this is setup because the iphone cannot received mms, so for the iphone they created this website to view photos within the txt.. But, I cannot understand for the life of me why I cant see pictures in my text's.
Interesting. Maybe AT&T thinks you have an iPhone? Are you on their iPhone plan? Also log onto your account and make sure your phone there isn't listed as the iPhone.
sounds to me like that's what the other persons phone is sending you to. nothing to do with your tilt. Like you could have a rzr and still see the same message. i get mms fine on my tilt with at&t
Yea I'm going to have to call them. It's def not the people sending it to me. I've gone online and ATT is showing me that I have a Tilt on their website, I'm just gonna give them a ring and see whats up.
I am sure this is a provisioning issue. I just called AT&T because of this and sms not getting to my phone and it was because of the way they setup my account. I am sure you will have this fix shortly.
Figured it out I think. I have a W810I registered with ATT because the net is cheaper on that phone. I only use my tilt 4 days out of the week and just dont use net on it those 4 days, cus 30 bucks is expensive. So i opted to just use my w810i for 15 bucks a month. I remember when i called they had to change the MAE or EMI whatever number to the old sony ericson, thats why they are not appearing correctly. This will be interesting...
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Figured it out I think. I have a W810I registered with ATT because the net is cheaper on that phone. I only use my tilt 4 days out of the week and just dont use net on it those 4 days, cus 30 bucks is expensive. So i opted to just use my w810i for 15 bucks a month. I remember when i called they had to change the MAE or EMI whatever number to the old sony ericson, thats why they are not appearing correctly. This will be interesting...
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nope thats not it. i have a tilt and att thinks i have a razr so i only pay 35 for unlimeted internet and sms adn i can send and recive mms so its on att's end. oh adn dont tell them you have a tilt or they WILL NOT HELP you trust me...they will say its becouse you are useing a pda on a media max plan

Avoiding International Texting charges anyone know?

So i know all phones have a Email attached to the number for example [email protected], So i have a friend that lives in Canada and i at .25 cents a text it gets spendy to text her.
So if instead of just putting in the number as 123456789 i put it in as the email address will it avoid the charges or will it still see the cell tower it sends from and charge me? im attached to email all day so i can just email form a normal email address but Texting just seems much more convenient
Hehe
Thanks for any help.
i dont get what u mean by the cell tower thing, but i think i get what you mean......you want to avoid international sms charge by sending a txt msg to an email address.
if you are using an at&t rom, then all u have to do is put in the email address in the recipient box and send it. if you're using a non-at&t rom, then u have to do some tiny changes in the registry, i dont remember wat they were, search for it.
this way u will be charged the normal sms rate, or if u have an sms plan then it will be deducted from the plan
If you are sending an email... you will be charged via your data plan. While this is convenient for you, it becomes a challenge for the other person who may be trying to respond.
You might want to consider a good chat tool in the case of an online conversation. Skype is popular, free, and can be run on a desktop OR PPC phone.
Cheers!
Do you have pay as you talk in the States? Does it allow international roaming?
What I'm thinking, and it's a solution that worked for a friend who lived in the UK and had a Canadian boyfriend, is that she bought him a pay as you talk UK phone, shipped it out to him and whilst he didn't really use it for anything, she could send him texts on that phone that came out of her inclusive allowance, thus avoiding any charges. Of course this would depend on the price of the pay as you talk phone, any running costs etc. For a UK phone, once you buy it there were no running costs hence why this was an option. YMMV.
There is an easier way than sending messages as an email. You can download java applications to your phone that allow you to send messages through the phones GPRS rather than SMS. This costs a fraction of the price and works the same way as you would send a normal message.
A good site to check out is FishText.com. Texts to canada cost €0.02 and in my experience it has always worked.
if you have a data plan or using wifi get this software from the link http://www.nimbuzz.com/ it is free and you well not get charge for any text

force connect to another network?

Situation: The place I go skydiving at is really rural. My service goes in and out, but is more out than in. Is there any way possible to force a connection to the AT&T network that's out there? When I try, I get the message "Your SIM card does not allow this" or whatever it says. I don't wanna drop my T Mobile service, as I've had them since '02 and they've been great to me. But I'm at wit's end with this no service thing every weekend when I jump =/
Thanks in advance
~Lania
lol.... no not unless you can somehow get ATT to allow T-Mo sims.... and hell has a better chance of freezing over..... only option i can think of is grab an ATT ppd sim.... either do the hack to install 2 sims (requires pretty severe physical modification to the phone) or simply remove your T-mo Sim and insert your ATT sim....
you ARE using google voice arent you? in that case you can have all incoming calls ring both numbers, seeing as you should only have one registered on a network at a time....
welcome to the only reason i ever even think of dropping my T-Mo service.... and ive had them since before they were called T-Mobile... (powertel, i think.....)
No, I don't use Google voice. Don't you have to have an invite for that?
Anyway, it's not that big a deal I guess...My service has been gettin a lil better the more I go out there. Last weekend if I put my butt up against the hanger door, I got signal lol My contract is up next August. Prob switch to Verizon then unless T Mobile gets somethin done with the quickness about their service coverage.
you can have an invite sent to you by someone who has it, or you can request an invite off the google voice page it's self, it just takes about a week to get the invite if you request thru GV site... id HIGHLY reccomend getting one, all kinds of cool stuff can be done, including (but not limited too) Cheap international rates (.02 per min to landlines almost anywhere), totally unlimited calling over SIP (this ones pretty tricky to setup), visual and transcribed voice mails, caller screening, call routing (inbound).
if WiFi is available where your having signal issues then a SIP solution through GV, a SIP provider, SIPSorcery, and PBXes.org could give you access to phone calls (inbound and outbound, to/from you GV number)
its a rough setup (took me several tries, a couple days, and a couple shots to finally get right, and im nowhere near a novice) but if thats what would solve your problem grab a copy of SIPDroid (off the google code page, not the market), a GV invite, a PBXes account, a SIPSorcery account (all of the preceding are free services). A SIP provider will also be nessicary (some are free and some arent, i use SIPGate, which is free the way i use it/ have it set up).
look around on google for some tutorials (id link to one, but none were complete, or were old, i had to piece the info together from several tutorials, the SIPDroid page, PBXes help pages, and some common sense)
I'll look into it
worst case it'll allow you to still use your G1 for calls on Wifi over SIP after you change service providers (and phones) if you dont grab another android (or even if you do for that matter, with the proper setup ofcourse)...

Can I Use My Hero After I Cutt Off My Service

I have recently thought of leaving sprint because of there embarrassing services and was wondering if i can still use my hero with out a service provider??? if there was a program i could run on it?? I have so much money into my phone and would hate to not use it. i believe i can use the wifi part for data not sure?? but i want to make cals n stuff is there and type of hack i can use i am using fresh toast2.1. with a radio update. Thank You for the help. Sprint truely does not know how to run a company and man i bought my phone for full price!!!!!!!!!!!! HELP ME PLEASE
REDSCARFACE said:
I have recently thought of leaving sprint because of there embarrassing services and was wondering if i can still use my hero with out a service provider??? if there was a program i could run on it?? I have so much money into my phone and would hate to not use it. i believe i can use the wifi part for data not sure?? but i want to make cals n stuff is there and type of hack i can use i am using fresh toast2.1. with a radio update. Thank You for the help. Sprint truely does not know how to run a company and man i bought my phone for full price!!!!!!!!!!!! HELP ME PLEASE
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The phone doesn't just stop powering on after you cancel your service.
There are some illegal things you could do to bring it to another carrier... you can always use Data on wifi. I have read of some people using it for a simple PDA/Media player when they are done with it.
I for one am 100% happy with sprints customer service and cell service. Updating the phone could have happened quicker, but hey what do you do.
They have yet to do me wrong. Best cell company I have ever worked with and a heck of a good price.
When I left Verizon and told them I was going to Sprint and told them the price, the retentions department didn't even put up a fight because they knew they couldn't touch Sprints price.
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You may be able to use Google Voice over Wifi to place calls, but I am not sure. I doubt you would be able to recieve them since the registered phone number would be disconnected.
And my tethering with Spint is 3 times faster than it was with Verizon, and I acutally paid verizon the extra 15 a month for it....huge waste.
you could use skype to make calls over wifi
otherwise you will just have a PDA
Kcarpenter said:
You may be able to use Google Voice over Wifi to place calls, but I am not sure. I doubt you would be able to recieve them since the registered phone number would be disconnected.
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That's a no-go Ghost Ryder. I'm currently service-less and Google Voice won't route over Wifi for calls, SMS will however. Now, if you set up the proper SIP accounts, you can use your Google Voice account through those SIPs to make and receive calls via Sipdroid. Google will pull up how-to's.
As for those lesser than legal matters, that's what I'm about to do myself. Ever done it first hand?
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That's a no-go Ghost Ryder. I'm currently service-less and Google Voice won't route over Wifi for calls, SMS will however. Now, if you set up the proper SIP accounts, you can use your Google Voice account through those SIPs to make and receive calls via Sipdroid. Google will pull up how-to's.
As for those lesser than legal matters, that's what I'm about to do myself. Ever done it first hand?
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Nope, but it doesn't look too complicated from what I have seen.
Depending on who you flash too MMS may recieve but not send, and Data may/not work.
Seems like some poeple are using better cut to route proxy info stuff through opera to achieve data.
I went through the same type of thing when I went from my touch pro to the hero. I still wanted to use my touch pro as a dedicated gps since at the time there werent any decent ones available on android. anyways, I had then went and set up a similar thing for making calls via the wifi using GV, sipgate, and I believe it was fring....I forget. Basically I would go on my phone browser to google voice, initiate the call from the website, then fring would ring on my touch pro and finish connecting the call. lawl, I just set up my brother's fiance's phone to do that since she is going to Germany for the summer this weekend...so she and my bro can talk for free (though she needs wifi which her dorm over there will have)
Ya, I definitely hear ya about Sprint.....it's funny, I get so so service in my house, yet about 2 miles down the road is a sprint store and as soon as I pull out onto the main drag BAAAAAM insta full signal >.<
As annoyed as I am I will not go back to verizon......way to rich for my blood LOL.
Here is a quick how to for the easiest way to accomplish the free calls thing via wifi. It's a little dated but the info is still good me thinks. The only thing is that you'd have to go to google.com/voice on your phone and (thankfully having all contacts synced to google) initiate the call/sms from there. To get it so you can actually dial out from the phone would require ALOT more configuring and can be annoying. So try this first, make sure it works and then if you want to get more jiggy with it, then figure out the whole "SIPSORCERY.com" thingy.
Good luck
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=100470
Thank You i am going to try and run the sipdroid and google voice idea i kinda wish there was a app too pick up a wi fi signal with increase strenght so i can use my phone everywhere instead of just home and local buisnesses lol. If you have any ideas to pick up further signals or wifi everywhere let me know also if you have and more ideas on the talk for free let me know thank you.
no dice there my friend haha, here is a thought. think of the phone as a cordless phone for home also, just keep in mind that the audio quality isn't going to be 100%. There will be a delay, there will be some compression artifacts, but hey at least its a free alternative to home phone right?
EDIT: being in a strong wifi environment will DEFINITELY help with quality as it has more umph to work with
i noticed when i read the how to guide u posted thaqt airplane mode will disable the cdma radio did it work so i can keep my battery lol?
heh, not certain. like I said, it's dated stuff not sure how to have only wifi on.
Kcarpenter said:
Nope, but it doesn't look too complicated from what I have seen.
Depending on who you flash too MMS may recieve but not send, and Data may/not work.
Seems like some poeple are using better cut to route proxy info stuff through opera to achieve data.
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Well I'm actually not switching carriers. I was on a family plan, then a divorce hits, and everyone is refusing to pay the delinquent bill - point being, my phone is tied to that account and can't be used on any other account until the bill is paid. So, I'm hoping to sprinkle some voodoo magic on my Hero, then slap it on a new account with the same carrier.
I dont see why you dont convert the phone over to cricket service (if you have it) and just pay 35 dollars for talk and web. I mean minus well right?

[Q] Phone number on my non-phone.....

So I have a dell streak on a T-Mobile pre-paid mobile broadband plan. The device/account is assigned a phone number which my first guess tells me is simply required to connect to the network in any capacity. I'd like to know if there is someway to use this number for SMS either via extra service thru T-Mobile or thru some form of tweaking/hacking/moding/editing/praying....... But the few T-Mobile reps I've spoken to don't have a clue. The answers I've gotten range from "I think you can add text messaging" to "You definately can't maybe I think not do that sort of".
Is it good for anything?
Can I MAKE it be good for anything?
Is there somewhere to maybe tie it into my google voice number in a way I can use ANY SMS app?
Is there like an "SMS for non-phones 101" somewhere?
Thanks.
fliberdygibits said:
So I have a dell streak on a T-Mobile pre-paid mobile broadband plan. The device/account is assigned a phone number which my first guess tells me is simply required to connect to the network in any capacity. I'd like to know if there is someway to use this number for SMS either via extra service thru T-Mobile or thru some form of tweaking/hacking/moding/editing/praying....... But the few T-Mobile reps I've spoken to don't have a clue. The answers I've gotten range from "I think you can add text messaging" to "You definately can't maybe I think not do that sort of".
Is it good for anything?
Can I MAKE it be good for anything?
Is there somewhere to maybe tie it into my google voice number in a way I can use ANY SMS app?
Is there like an "SMS for non-phones 101" somewhere?
Thanks.
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You can text from it. Use the native texting app and it'll send/receive fine (I believe it's MMS). T-Mobile has unlimited texting on their data plan, so you already ought to be set up for it.
Thank you! I guess I'm going to have to contact Tmobile as I can neither send nor receive in this fashion.
Thanks again

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